Linux-Misc Digest #875, Volume #23 Fri, 17 Mar 00 17:13:04 EST
Contents:
Re: Salary? (JEDIDIAH)
Re: Can MySQL on Linux take this? (John Hasler)
Problems Installing a new Laptop disk? ("Robert V. Phillips")
Re: Library Questions (Paul Kimoto)
Linux Shell Accounts ("Fuze")
RingCentral Fax
isdn for linux (Frank)
Re: Do you hate vi? vi or vim? Deathmatch! (Shyamal Prasad)
Re: I need to set up as a mini-isp, how is this done? (Bob Hauck)
Re: Which RDBMS would you choose? (Mark Preston)
TAR exists with errors ("Chris")
Specify order of files written in CD (GG)
perl crontab problem??? (Mike Jopling)
Re: Ide hot-swap: is it supported ? (Robie Basak)
Tracking down init errors (Steve Feil)
Re: Monitor
Re: Linux keeps crashing...? (long) (Steve Feil)
Re: Call Center (=?iso-8859-2?Q?Pawe=B3_Kot?=)
Re: learning to compile ("Jobath")
Re: Call Center (=?iso-8859-2?Q?Pawe=B3_Kot?=)
Re: Salary? (Donovan Rebbechi)
Re: Salary? (Donovan Rebbechi)
Re: problems with boot and halt on laptop (Steve Feil)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Salary?
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 19:09:45 GMT
On 17 Mar 2000 18:55:45 GMT, Ian Mac Lure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In comp.os.linux.misc Donovan Rebbechi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>: On Wed, 15 Mar 2000 02:27:35 GMT, Christopher Browne wrote:
>
> [SNIP]
>
>: I'd agree that housing costs in the US are fairly high.
>
> Huh? Maybe in the major coastal conurbations ( LA, Atlanta,
> DC-NY-Boston, SF Bay ) but most places the cost of a home is
> quite reasonable. A common comment from many continental Europeans
> is that they couldn't dream of owning property in their home
> country but that here it was well within reach. Met a couple from
> Klagenfurt Austria on a plane
> In Silicon Valley only 1/4 of the population could afford to buy
> a typical single family home but this is ( IMHO ) a pathological
> situation.
> I have no idea what property goes for in rural Ireland though.
>
> [SNIP]
Also bear in mind that even considering that, there are a lot
of Americans unable to afford their own home. Furthemore, some
of the 'cheaper' properties in some American cities are in no
location that most people would want to live given a real choice.
Although, there always is the 'single wide on a plot of land in
the middle of nowhere' option. However, even that can be impractical.
Still...
Highrise condo in Paris ~ 250K
Townhouse condo in Toronto ~ 180K (don't recall if that's CN or US)
Townhouse condo in a Columbus, OH suburb ~ 60K
--
So long as Apple uses Quicktime to effectively |||
make web based video 'Windows only' Club, / | \
Apple is no less monopolistic than Microsoft.
Need sane PPP docs? Try penguin.lvcm.com.
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can MySQL on Linux take this?
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 18:19:28 GMT
Jasper writes:
> And that apart from finding Linux-supported hardware that can hold that
> data (2xVALinux 8LE?).
UltraSparc 60?
> If I'm making the correct calculation,...
You aren't. 40000*4000+40000*12000=640000000 according to bc.
> ...that's about 640 GB...
You're three orders of magnitude high.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI
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From: "Robert V. Phillips" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Problems Installing a new Laptop disk?
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 14:53:30 -0500
I just bought a 12gb disk for my laptop, which now has
a 6gb disk. The laptop has only 1 hard disk "bay", so I
cannot install the old and new disks at once, as required
by the HardDisk upgrade mini How-to.
I have another Linux computer on a lan with my laptop, and
it had sufficient disk space to accept a copy of the 6gb
old laptop disk(all on 1 partition). I used NFS on my LAN
to do the copy, using "cp -ax".
The 6gb image has numerous packages that I installed, as
well as custom software, distributed in unaccounted places
in /usr/bin/, /usr/local and who knows where else.
It also has a mysql database with current data in various
databases.
I think that from here my best bet is to physically replace
the 6gb disk with the 12gb new one in my laptop and then
install rh6.1 on my laptop on the new 12gb disk. It was
also installed on the 6gb disk. I'll first make a 8gb partition
for Linux and leave 4gb untouched. I plan to establish my
network connectivity in Linux and once it works, just do an
NFS mount of the archive disk on the other machine and copy
it onto my 8gb partition.
On one hand, it seems like overkill to copy all of redhat 6.1
again, but on the other hand I feel it is safer than booting,
say, with TOMSRTBT on my laptop and then doing the copy,
as I am not sure how best to make it boot properly after
that.
If I install RH6.1 first on the 12gb disk, then during the
installation, the dialogs will let me set up my disk to
boot from LILO or the MBR.
I doubt that if I use TOMSRTBT alone, and then do
the "cp -ax" over the network back onto my new 12gb disk
that this will properly activate the 12gb disk to boot,
although I may be wrong.
Also, I plan to install VMware to run windows 2000 on the
4gb left over on the 12gb disk. I've never used VMware before,
so I am guessing that this 4gb will be formattable/recognizable
by windows2000 after I setup VMware and start installing
windows 2000.
Any suggestions for improvements in these procedures?
For example, should I format the 4gb as an ext2 filesystem
also, or should windows 2000 format it while I install it
within VMware (if that is possible)?
Of course, I am trying to optimize performance
of windows2000 when I run it under VMware in the future.
TIA,
Robert
I just bought a 12gb disk for my laptop, which now has
a 6gb disk. The laptop has only 1 hard disk "bay", so I
cannot install the old and new disks at once, as required
by the HardDisk upgrade mini How-to.
I have another Linux computer on a lan with my laptop, and
it had sufficient disk space to accept a copy of the 6gb
old laptop disk(all on 1 partition). I used NFS on my LAN
to do the copy, using "cp -ax".
The 6gb image has numerous packages that I installed, as
well as custom software, distributed in unaccounted places
in /usr/bin/, /usr/local and who knows where else.
It also has a mysql database with current data in various
databases.
I think that from here my best bet is to physically replace
the 6gb disk with the 12gb new one in my laptop and then
install rh6.1 on my laptop on the new 12gb disk. It was
also installed on the 6gb disk. I'll first make a 8gb partition
for Linux and leave 4gb untouched. I plan to establish my
network connectivity in Linux and once it works, just do an
NFS mount of the archive disk on the other machine and copy
it onto my 8gb partition.
On one hand, it seems like overkill to copy all of redhat 6.1
again, but on the other hand I feel it is safer than booting,
say, with TOMSRTBT on my laptop and then doing the copy,
as I am not sure how best to make it boot properly after
that.
If I install RH6.1 first on the 12gb disk, then during the
installation, the dialogs will let me set up my disk to
boot from LILO or the MBR.
I doubt that if I use TOMSRTBT alone, and then do
the "cp -ax" over the network back onto my new 12gb disk
that this will properly activate the 12gb disk to boot,
although I may be wrong.
Also, I plan to install VMware to run windows 2000 on the
4gb left over on the 12gb disk. I've never used VMware before,
so I am guessing that this 4gb will be formattable/recognizable
by windows2000 after I setup VMware and start installing
windows 2000.
Any suggestions for improvements in these procedures?
For example, should I format the 4gb as an ext2 filesystem
also, or should windows 2000 format it while I install it
within VMware (if that is possible)?
Of course, I am trying to optimize performance
of windows2000 when I run it under VMware in the future.
TIA,
Robert
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Library Questions
Date: 17 Mar 2000 14:28:37 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Matt Starnes wrote:
> I am trying to install Libnet 1.0.1 on my system and am running into a
> problem. This problem kind of goes to all development libraries I try to
> install. I do the configure and make and make install, but the programs
> that require these libraries can never find them. I try doing
> /sbin/ldconfig to refresh the cache but to no avail. So my question is:
>
> Do I have to do something to get the library to install?
I assume that you are installing these self-built libraries somewhere like
/usr/local/lib.
If your programs do not find the libraries at _runtime_, then you need to
check that /usr/local/lib (or whatever the relevant library lives) is in
/etc/ld.so.conf, then run ldconfig(8). Alternatively, you could put
/usr/local/lib in the environment variable LD_LIBRARY_PATH first.
If your programs do not find the libraries at _link_ time, then you need
to link with the "-L/usr/local/lib" flag. (Note that ldconfig(8) is
irrelevant here.)
--
Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: "Fuze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux Shell Accounts
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 19:30:38 -0000
Hi
Can anyone setup me up with a Linux shell account, or point me in the
right direction where to get one ?
Thanks
B. Harvey
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RingCentral Fax
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 19:30:06 GMT
Have installed Ring Central by using Diamond multimedia CD.
Have been successful in sending a fax, but have been unsuccessful in
receiving a fax.
The sender just received an error message as did I.
How do I overcome this problem?
I only have one telephone line for the computer and the usual telephone
with answer machine.
--
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http://www.help.com/
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From: Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: isdn for linux
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 20:45:51 +0100
Hi
I need to setup a dial in server using ISDN. I'm using a Eicon diva
2.01 pci modem and tried it under Redhat 6.1 and Suse 6.2. I succeed to
dial out in both distributions, but none of them is able to detect an
incoming call.
E.g. using minicom i can make a connection, but when I am called, no
"RING" appears.
In /var/log/messages the following kernel message is shown:
... isdn_net: call from 617 -> 0 3 ignored
... isdn_tty: call from 617 -> 3 ignored
Hence mgetty can't respond to the caller.
Does anybody know a solution for this?
Greetings
Frank
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From: Shyamal Prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,comp.editors,comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: Do you hate vi? vi or vim? Deathmatch!
Date: 17 Mar 2000 13:38:23 -0600
"Chris" == Chris Croughton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Chris> By choice I use vim, but I'll happily use vi in single-user
Chris> mode when /usr is unmounted.
Chris> I don't use any version of EscMetaAltCtrlShift at all, it's
Chris> a memory and resource hog with no redeeming qualities I've
Chris> seen...
Really? Memory and resource hog?
I'm using XEmacs to write and post this reply, I also use it read my
mail (local spool and also IMAP from an MS Exchange buffer), I am
running a Python interpreter under it, *and* I have at least 15 file
buffers and tag tables open, and its been running a few days.
PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME CPU COMMAND
687 exushml 1 23 0 17M 15M sleep 13:36 1.18% xemacs-20.4
643 exushml 1 34 0 23M 15M sleep 13:36 0.64% Xsun
4771 exushml 1 34 0 6584K 5080K sleep 0:01 0.03% kscd.bin
4893 exushml 1 34 0 4784K 2496K sleep 0:00 0.02% vim
731 exushml 1 4 0 40M 27M sleep 12:55 0.00% netscape
At 15M resident (17M total), XEmacs is simply not a bad deal compared
to vim with 2.5M resident (4.7M total) doing nothing at all right now.
If I could just find a good replacement for netscape I'd be set! That
is a real memory hog, not xemacs.
There was a time when I used to apologize for Emacs' size (say four
years ago), but not anymore. I find that a sad reflection on current
software practices.
Don't get me wrong, I love vi/vim (easily the best text editor I've
ever used), but I find the complaint that EscMetaAltCtrlShift is
bloated increasingly lame.
Cheers!
--
Shyamal Prasad
The views expressed above are mine, not that of Ericsson.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: I need to set up as a mini-isp, how is this done?
Date: 17 Mar 2000 20:15:36 GMT
Reply-To: bobh{at}slc{dot}codem{dot}com
On Fri, 17 Mar 2000 16:42:24 +1000, Robert Chalmers
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have come across a zillion configurations for dialing out and
>connecting a linux box to the ISP, but no details on how to set up as a
>"mini-isp" myself, so the folks can dial in here!
Mgetty and pppd can do this and are included in most distributions. Also,
the Linux Router Project <http://www.linuxrouter.org/> has a small
distribution that is intended to be used as a dialup server or router.
You might also do a search for something called "portslave".
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| Codem Systems, Inc.
-| http://www.codem.com/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Preston)
Crossposted-To: comp.databases
Subject: Re: Which RDBMS would you choose?
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 20:17:55 GMT
I've done the Oracle thing - and like you have moved on. InterBase is
fine, but you really need InterBase Sukkel or some other form of GUI
manager to go with it. Perhaps, as you say, that will improve when it
goes Open Source (though I understand it won't be on a GNU licence
when it comes out).
On Tue, 14 Mar 2000 23:47:45 GMT, "Dennis Edward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Oracle just p*d me off again with their palm-out attitude, and I'm (not for
>the first time) considering replacing our Oracle RDBMS with an open-source
>alternative. The two that come to mind are Postgres and Interbase (when the
>source comes out). Since this is for a business setting, things like
>robustness, speed, and transaction/rollback ability are important. Our data
>is less than 10 GB, and read-mostly.
>
>Anyone done anything similar, and care to share some sooth?
--
Mark A Preston BSc, FIAP
The Magpie's Nest
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: TAR exists with errors
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 15:32:07 -0500
I'm trying to backup my RH6.1 to a SCSI SureStore T4 (yeah I know its a
reasonable old tape drive - but it's what I got!)..
Anyway.. it runs for a good long while and then suddenly stops with the
error "tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors"
I'm not sure what this means? Anyone have any suggestions? If I specifically
tar a couple of directories everything is fine..
Help?
Chris
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From: GG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Specify order of files written in CD
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 21:02:36 GMT
Hi,
I've a special requirement where my data files must be recorded
in specific orders in CD. Foe eg.
/root/mydir/d
/root/mydir/c
/root/another/b
/root/mydir/a
/root/another/a
/root/m
/root/a
How do i achieive this? I checked "cdrecord" and "mkisofs" but i don't
see any option for this. One possibility could be,
"mkisofs -o cdimg file1 file2 file3"
but how do i feed a list of 30 files to mkisofs?
Are you aware of any such program?
Is there a commercially available software that can do that?
Please email your reply to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" also.
Guna..
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: Mike Jopling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: perl crontab problem???
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 16:10:54 -0500
I can't get my perlscripts to execute via crontab entries. Other crontab
processes are OK and I can execute the perlscripts manually OK --what's up?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robie Basak)
Subject: Re: Ide hot-swap: is it supported ?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 18 Mar 2000 05:29:07 GMT
On Fri, 17 Mar 2000 16:51:24 GMT, Hal Burgiss said:
>On Tue, 14 Mar 2000 17:10:35 +0100, KPD Automatisering
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>Diego Zuccato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>> Hello all.
>>>
>>> I saw a kit to make IDE disks removable like SCSI ones. It supports
>>> hot-swap under windoze, but (ARGH!) there are no Linux drivers :-( Does
>>> somebody know if it's supported in Linux ? If yes, what do I need to use
>>> it ?
>>>
>>> Tks, Diego.
>>
>>Probably you wil have to unmount the running disk. Take it out. Put in
>>another. Mount the new disk. Removable disks are considered by Linux
>>quite the same as floppy disks and CD-rom disks.
>
>But how does one tell Linux to read the new geometry, etc?
>
>--
>Hal B
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>--
There is a way to read the partition table, I don't know about the
geometry though - it's an IOCTL of some kind, fdisk does this. You may
be able to run fdisk on the drive and re-write the old partition table
back in to get Linux to recognize it. The geometry may be solved by
compiling IDE support as a module and reloading the module (WARNING:
if the kernel's root partition is on IDE, this won't work).
Robie.
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From: Steve Feil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Tracking down init errors
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 15:16:18 -0600
I'm doing a custom install of Redhat 6.1 onto a laptop that does not
have a CD-ROM. My goal is to copy enough RH6.1 via floppies to get
PLIP up and running.I do not plan on putting X on it.
I'm almost ready for PLIP. I can boot from Lilo and get to runlevel 3,
However there is some sort of problem because this message is sent to
the console every five minutes.
INIT: Id "5" respawning too fast disabled for 5 minutes
INIT: Id "6" respawning too fast disabled for 5 minutes
If I boot using "linux single" in Lilo, I do not get this message.
I would like to know how to track down this error. I'm using the
standard RH6.1 /etc/inittab. I installed ntsysv-1.0.7 to see what
services get started at runlevel 3. It showed 6 or 7 different ones ,
I disabled all of them (portmap and cron are two I remember ). After
rebooting with services disabled I still get the message, unless I
boot into single user mode.
PS. I have a fully functional RH6.1 system to reference against.
PPS. short of taring up the entire /etc/rc.d/ directory I'm not sure
what other information I should include.
===================================================================
Steven Feil | Gram-pa, back at the turn of the .~.
Programmer/Developer | century, why did people use an /V\
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | operating system, when they were not // \\
| allowed to see the source code? (X_X)
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Monitor
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 21:30:06 GMT
I got Linux for windows-the manual only tells you how to install it......
Dances With Crows wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, 17 Mar 2000 01:30:12 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
> >My monitor display is terrible in linux. The pixels are large and i
can't
> >fit everything on the screen. Where can I change my monitor settings?
>
> Before you waste even more of your time and ours, read the manual that
> came with your distribution, or the online documentation that came with
> the CD. Every paper manual that I have seen contains at least one chapter
> addressing this and explaining how to go about configuring X. You
> will also learn many things and probably spare yourself a great deal of
> future pain if you Read The Fine Manual *before* you have problems.
>
> The exact tool you'll use depends on the distribution you have. Mandrake
> and RedHat use "Xconfigurator", SuSE uses "SaX", Debian uses "XF86Setup".
> Run one of those utilities as root, and you will be asked a bunch of
> questions about your graphics card and monitor. Answer them correctly.
> After that is done, you should be able to start X in a more pleasing
> resolution and color depth. If this doesn't completely work, you can
edit
> XF86Config (under /etc or /etc/X11 ) by hand to tweak it a bit.
>
> Some video cards, notably a few Trident models, some SiS models, and the
> absolutely newest cards (Rage 128 Pro, GeForce) don't really work
> quite right yet or require more tweaking. If you run into trouble that
> you can't resolve by reading the documentation, post the following
> information and someone will probably be able to help you:
> 1. Distro with version number (RedHat, SuSE, Corel, Caldera....)
> 2. Make and model of graphics card
>
> --
> Matt G / Dances With Crows \###| Programmers are playwrights
> There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| Computers are lousy actors
> But only Light too dim for us to see \#| Lusers are vicious drama
critics
> (Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| BOFHen burn down theatres.
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From: Steve Feil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux keeps crashing...? (long)
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 15:33:49 -0600
Have you tried remote service, such as ping or telnet?
If you can telnet into the lockedup machine from a remote
machine, your problem is most likely a X window or window
manager crash. If the locked computer can respond to ping
or any remote request it is not a kernel crash.
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Steven Feil | Gram-pa, back at the turn of the .~.
Programmer/Developer | century, why did people use an /V\
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | operating system, when they were not // \\
| allowed to see the source code? (X_X)
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From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Pawe=B3_Kot?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Call Center
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 23:27:17 +0100
On Fri, 17 Mar 2000, Andreas Kahari wrote:
> > Hi,
Hi Andreas,
Thanks for Your answer.
> > Does anybody know whether any Call Center software for Linux exists?
>
> Did you try searching on Freashmeat at <URL:http://freshmeat.net/>? I
> searched for "call center" and got 706 matches (most of them probably
> unusable, but anyway, I don't know what you mean by "call center").
I was looking only in linuxberg.
peKOT
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From: "Jobath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: learning to compile
Date: 17 Mar 2000 15:40:08 -0600
I myself am a newbie making a feable attempt of doing the same thing. Since
you asked, I'll tell you some of the things I have experienced. :)
First it's assumed you do have the 'C' libraries. (I havent had to do this
since I did a 'Full install'). I have found that most source code packaged
the commands to install are almost identical.
I log in as root
Untar the archive into a directory. (I use tmp, for no other reason but I
think this is a good directory)
change to the directory and run
./configure
make
make install
Pretty simple actually, but my first problem was where does it get install
to?
Well most of the time it went to '/usr/local/bin' fine and dandy for single
binaries (ie utilities). Then I had to move it to the correct directory
/bin or /sbin.
For other things (ie lib). it still installed to /usr/local/bin, then I
guess I had a choice. to point the library search to the directory move the
library to the it's correct directory.
To point the library. (in this case glib)
I found where the original file was:
find -iname glib-config
came back with
/usr/bin
/usr/local/bin
since ./configure checks /usr/bin I backed up the glib-config on /usr/bin
and copied the one from /usr/local/bin
then there is a file called ld.so.conf (which I think are library paths)
edited the file and added /usr/local/lib (where the make install put the
files)
Note: there is a utility called ldconfig which displays all the 'lib' files
it can find ran it and check to see if it showed up.
After that I could compile and everything was working...
so then there is just one more step...
I ran through the whole process again.. cause I wanted to remove the old
lib.
I uninstalled the old package which was a RPM.
;; this sets the path to where you want to install... without the --prefix
it will use the default location /usr/local
./configure --prefix /usr
make
make install
;; now all files should be in the proper locations..
Hope this helps some...
"Kevin Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8aoo33$a85$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I'm trying to move beyond RPM's and compile my own programs. Sometimes I
> succeed, but usually not. When I don't, I usually can't even begin to
figure out why.
> How can I learn what I need to know to troubleshoot? I have no fear of
editing files,
> reading FAQ's, man pages or anything else necessary to solve problems.
Any guidance and
> direction is greatly appreciated.
>
> --
> Kevin Paul
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From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Pawe=B3_Kot?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Call Center
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 23:45:52 +0100
Sorry - haven't finished my previous mail.
On Fri, 17 Mar 2000, Pawe� Kot wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Mar 2000, Andreas Kahari wrote:
>
> > > Hi,
>
> Hi Andreas,
>
> Thanks for Your answer.
>
> > > Does anybody know whether any Call Center software for Linux exists?
> >
> > Did you try searching on Freashmeat at <URL:http://freshmeat.net/>? I
> > searched for "call center" and got 706 matches (most of them probably
> > unusable, but anyway, I don't know what you mean by "call center").
>
> I was looking only in linuxberg.
And haven't found anything. I'll be more specific. Imagine the situation:
few people are sitting in front of the computer. They have also a phone
and the headset for it. The phone is somehow (via RS?) connected to the
computer. What I want is that these people could dial the number from the
database without touching the phone. Then disconnect also without touching
the phone. And all this should be logged somewhere.
Sorry for my poor English :-(
peKOT
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Salary?
Date: 17 Mar 2000 21:58:11 GMT
On 17 Mar 2000 18:55:45 GMT, Ian Mac Lure wrote:
>In comp.os.linux.misc Donovan Rebbechi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>: On Wed, 15 Mar 2000 02:27:35 GMT, Christopher Browne wrote:
> I have no idea what property goes for in rural Ireland though.
I'm from Australia. WHen I lived there a 3 yrs ago, I could get a place
about 1k from the middle of the city (Melbourne)for $54 per week ( ie $108
total for a two bedroom apartment ) Keep in mind that this is Australian
dollars ( so it's about $75/week US )
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Donovan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Salary?
Date: 17 Mar 2000 22:04:29 GMT
On Thu, 16 Mar 2000 22:08:18 +0100, Matthias Warkus wrote:
>Someone recently explained it to me, but I forgot it in the meantime:
>what is affirmative action again?
The practice of prefering candidates from "disadvantaged groups" over other
candidates, all other things being equal. Or in it's more aberrant forms, the
practice of discriminating in favour of "disadvantaged groups" even though
the candidates in question may be underqualified.
IMO, this can work for scholarships ( or special funds available only to
minorities ) because these create opportunities. However, when you do this
in ( for example ) admissions policy in the education system, all it does
is bring in a lot of poorly qualified candidates who can't make passing
grades.
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Donovan
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From: Steve Feil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: problems with boot and halt on laptop
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 16:01:37 -0600
If a filesystem is mounted as read only it will not be damaged
by a system reset. I would suggest booting from root/boot
floppy(s) then run fsck on the effect hard drive partition.
Two Cows has a mini-distro page at
http://alpha1.linux.tucows.com/conhtml/sys_minidist.html
I found Alfalinux and Small linux to be the most helpful,
your milage may vary.
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