Linux-Misc Digest #916, Volume #18 Fri, 5 Feb 99 20:13:09 EST
Contents:
Re: MAN page question ("J�rgen Exner")
Re: Linux 2.2.0 and serial ports ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Q: How do I stop a 4:02 AM scheduled mystery process? ("J�rgen Exner")
Re: Opinions about LyX? (David M. Cook)
SCSI Linux vs NT boot & install (Dark-Star SysOp)
Re: Undelete for Linux...? (David M. Cook)
Re: Dosemu and winndoze partitions? ("Marius Gedminas")
Can I copy a CD to mutltiple CD-R's at the same time ? (John Auld)
Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (Kinkster)
Re: KDE is my desktop. (Navindra Umanee)
HELP pls:memory above 16 meg on Compaq Presario 833 ("binaryhead")
Re: Modem problem (Johan Kullstam)
Re: Standard host name for standalone box? (Christof Schwenzer)
Re: Email and Pop3 accounts (steve)
Re: HElp, i can't compile (Jarvis)
Re: USB PC Cameras and Linux (Brian Hall)
Re: MAN page question (Gerard van der Sel)
oops "rm -r *" Missing part of tree, or at least a shrub (Yah Right)
Netscape + NCFTP (Mark Robinson)
Re: use theramin as input device (Michael Hirsch)
Re: Opinions about LyX? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: TRANS.TBL how? ("Simon Roberts")
X slow because can't get TCP/IP connect??? (Stephen Sanders)
Re: KDE is my desktop. (Navindra Umanee)
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Donn Miller)
Re: Topicality ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: "J�rgen Exner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MAN page question
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 14:48:10 -0800
walt wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I posted this a while ago, and it disappeared. hmm....
>Any way, when I call up a MAN page, I can read it just fine, but I can't
>get out of it! Having to reboot every time I read a MAN page isn't very
>practical! Can some one tell me the command to exit the page once you
>get to the end? My book conveniently forgot to tell me that
>part...thanks
Probably you are viewing the man page using some kind of pager, e.g. "more"
or more likely "less".
Try "q" to quit "less".
BTW: there are tons of better ways to stop a seemingly runaway process:
- Try CTRL-D: this is the EndOfFile marker and may be recognized by the
program as end of input. Maybe it will terminate and return you to the
command line.
- Try CTRL-C: Usually this will terminate the process and return you to the
command line
- Try CTRL-Z: This should send the program into the background and return
you to the command prompt. Then you can use "ps" and "kill" to terminate the
program.
- Switch to a different virtual console, login, and kill the runaway process
from there
Except for a hardware or kernel upgrade I can not imagine a situation, where
you must reboot a Linux system.
jue
--
J�rgen Exner; microsoft.com, UID: jurgenex
Sorry for this anti-spam inconvenience
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux 2.2.0 and serial ports
Date: 5 Feb 1999 22:51:53 GMT
> Robert Tuck wrote:
>> Does anyone out there know how to get the serial ports working
>> under Linux 2.2.0? I'm trying to run the pilot-link suite, and
>> pilot-xfer keeps saying something along the lines of
>> "cannot bind to /dev/pilot"
>> /dev/pilot is a symlink to /dev/cua1 at the moment
>> I understand that something has changed in 2.2.0 with cua ports
>> but I'm not clear what I'm supposed to do with them.
IIRC, support for /dev/cuax devices was dropped for the 2.2.x
kernels. Try changing the /dev/pilot symlink to /dev/ttyS1
HTH
Simeon
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From: "J�rgen Exner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Q: How do I stop a 4:02 AM scheduled mystery process?
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 14:52:48 -0800
Dave Peticolas wrote in message ...
>On Fri, 05 Feb 1999 00:49:09 GMT, Kurt Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>2. Given just an inode number for a file or directory,
>>how can I get the pathname of the file or directory?
>(as root)
>/sbin/debugfs /dev/xxx
>[...]
For heaven sake, far too complicated (and too dangerous).
Please use "find", it does have an option to search for inodes.
jue
--
J�rgen Exner; microsoft.com, UID: jurgenex
Sorry for this anti-spam inconvenience
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David M. Cook)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Opinions about LyX?
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 14:36:38 GMT
On 4 Feb 1999 12:15:32 GMT, QM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi, I'll need to write my thesis (subject is a math/engineering one) soon and
>I was thinking about using LyX, instead of latex directly. Can anyone offer
>any opinions about LyX, as I don't want to get my fingers burnt at a stage
>late into my thesis. Thanks very much.
I never really found it useful but YMMV. I suggest AucTeX, which is a LaTeX
template mode for emacs, instead.
Dave Cook
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From: Dark-Star SysOp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: SCSI Linux vs NT boot & install
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 15:33:01 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi:-) First of all I love Linux and I use the Caldera v1.3 distribution.
Then excuse me for the "subject title" and now come on to facts:
Why WIN NT v 4.0 can boot & install, from & on, a SCSI Hard-Disk on SCSI
ID 14 without problems but LINUX, exacly Lilo, can not do the same??????
I have 4 SCSI HD & AHA2940UW Bios version 1.34.x setted as follow:
SCSI ID 0 IBM 18Gb
SCSI ID 6 IBM 2Gb
SCSI ID 8 IBM 4Gb
SCSI ID 14 FUJITSU 4Gb
The termination is LowOFF & HiON
The SCSI Bus is terminated properly & it work very well under NT & under
Linux.
I tried to istall Linux on HD SCSI ID 14 but the operation was not
succefull, so I chenged the jumpers, setting the SCSI HD to SCSI ID 1,
the first HD of SCSI Bus. and then LINUX was sucesfull installed!!!!
So I restore the old SCSI ID setting, I setted back the SCSI ID to 14, I
set the "Boot SCSI ID" option in the controller BIOS to boot from
ID14....But....The Linux did not boot!!!And gave me back this
message...."Kernel Panic".....:-((
So I need to know if is it possible to install & boot, on & from, a
Linux system installed on an HD SCSI not setted to first ID!!!!
PLEASE HELP ME:-))
I'M a network system administrator in a big trouble:-))
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David M. Cook)
Subject: Re: Undelete for Linux...?
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 14:46:22 GMT
On Thu, 04 Feb 1999 06:33:55 +0100, Joerg Klaas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Does somwhere a kind of "undelete"-Utility exist for Linux ?
>(e.g. undeleting files that have been accidently removed by "rm")
No. It's gone, Jim.
For future use you could create a shell script called del:
#!/bin/sh
cp -rp $* $HOME/.trash
rm -rf $*
You probably wouldn't want to use that on / ;}
There are also various safe delete binaries floating around.
Dave Cook
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From: "Marius Gedminas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dosemu and winndoze partitions?
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 14:03:51 +0100
Bostjan M�ller wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I have a problem concerning dosemu that has problems because my dos is
>on a windooze partition and when startiong dosemu it wants to start win.
>Is there a away around this ?
I had the same problem (even though my MSDOS.SYS file says BootGUI=0). The
solution for me was to create a fake WIN.BAT (e.g. `echo No windows under
DOSEMU!')
file in the DOSEMU hdimage. Your Mileage May Vary.
Yours,
--
Marius Gedminas
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: (John Auld)
Subject: Can I copy a CD to mutltiple CD-R's at the same time ?
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 10:17:41 GMT
I use mkisofs and cdrecord in a commercial environment for creating
software CD's for Windows and Unix cutsomers, but I can only use this
software to create CD's one at a time.
I have a need to create multiple copies from image files, which can
only be done at the moment on an unreliable Windows machine. This uses
software to write to eight CD-R's at a time, and so it must also be
possible on Linux.
Is there any software or command line tricks that can be used to write
to many CD-R drives at once ?
Thankds in advance.
John Auld
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kinkster)
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 20:40:25 GMT
On Fri, 05 Feb 1999 14:01:20 -0600, "Keith G. Murphy"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Kinkster wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 04 Feb 1999 12:10:48 -0600, "Keith G. Murphy"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >Kinkster wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, 03 Feb 1999 17:51:00 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Wueppelmann)
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Excellent post. It should be required reading for all the m$ofites out
>> >> there.
>> >
>> >Please don't quote a whole long post just to say you liked it. Bad
>> >Usenetiquette, you know.
>>
>> If you don't like it just don't read it.
>It's not got a thing to do with whether I liked it. Mostly agreed with
>it, in fact.
>It's wasted bandwidth on the 'Net to quote it like that. Not to mention
>that I've had to download the whole thing again just to read that you
>liked it. Seriously, I'm not trying to be a butt, I'm trying to turn
>you on to a little Usenet etiquette.
You may shove it up your ass if you don't like it.
>>
>> >
>> >[cut] [see what I'm doing? Cuts down on the redundancy]
>> >> >If Microsoft wants to create a proprietary Internet, I don't suppose there is
>> >> >anything wrong with that, aside from the fact that it would be horrible.
>> >
>> >I had to laugh at that.
>>
>> Do you laugh at the truth often? Are you naive and think m$ has
>> invested millions of dollars and taken on the DoJ and 19 states to
>> give you a FREE product with _NO_ thoughts of getting that money and
>> more back in some way ??
>"I don't suppose there is anything wrong with that, aside from the fact
>that it would be horrible." Nope, nothing funny about that phrase...
>;-)
>For the record:
>I *do* laugh at the truth often. Keeps me from crying.
>I don't *think* I'm naive, but then, naive people rarely think that they
>are...
>No, I don't think MS has invested all that money with no thoughts of
>getting it back.
Then m$ has lied to the courts and the DoJ as m$ has stated they
integrated/bundled IE and Win9X for "Consumer Benefit."
>Sheesh.
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From: Navindra Umanee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: KDE is my desktop.
Date: 5 Feb 1999 23:20:53 GMT
David M. Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You have to click on the root window with the same button you brought the
> menu up with. Still annoying.
Hah!
-N.
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"These download files are in Microsoft Word 6.0 format. After unzipping,
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From: "binaryhead" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: HELP pls:memory above 16 meg on Compaq Presario 833
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 10:18:13 -0500
HELP pls:memory above 16 meg on Compaq Presario 833
I have a 4 meg sim and two 8 meg sims and then there is the other 4 meg on
board. However linux can only see 16 megs ???
I know that the extra 8 meg simm is good, since it's from a simular system
(compaq too)
any one has simular experience ???
how to get linux to run with all the ram ???
tia
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From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Modem problem
Date: 05 Feb 1999 09:37:06 -0500
Red Hat Linux User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi, everyone, I have one problem with my modem. The modem is ROCKWELL
> V.90 PCI F/M/V. It works well under Wondows 95 (on COM2), but under
> Linux 2.0.36, no response from the modem when dailing out with minicom.
> Any suggestions and comments are welcome! Thanks.
perhaps you do not have a modem. maybe it is software and an A/D
converter masquerading as one in windows 95.
--
johan kullstam
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From: Christof Schwenzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Standard host name for standalone box?
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 14:30:06 +0000
Jay wrote:
> All,
>
> I'm curious if there is a standard hostname convention for stand
> alone Linux boxes. I run Linux on my home machine and thos hostname is
> localhost.localdomain. Is it customary to change that to something more
> personal?
Yes, you can choose the name you like.
Christof
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve)
Subject: Re: Email and Pop3 accounts
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 00:01:26 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 02 Feb 1999 18:40:43 +0000, "Kerry J. Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Last I checked Pegasus was not yet ported to LINUX.
And from what one of the Pegasus guys said on the pmail ng, they have
no plans to do so. FWIW, Pegasus 16-bit runs pretty well under wine,
but not as well as I'd like it to (as well as 16-bit FreeAgent).
steve
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From: Jarvis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: HElp, i can't compile
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 21:52:00 +0800
No, i do not want to know how to compile a c program. I want to know
what went wrong on my linux box. I have compiled the same c program on
linux else where but i get that error on my system, thats the reason i
am asking on linux newsgroups.
j
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In alt.os.linux Martin Klarner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> f:>Hi Jarvis,
>
> :>why don't you just set the return type of "main" to "int":
>
> Yes! Do so!
> And Why don't you post questions about c-programming to a newsgroup
> about c-programming? eg. comp.lang.c
> Your question had nothing, repeat: *nothing*, to do with linux!
> Haha!
>
> :>#include <stdio.h>
> :>int main(void)
> :>{
> :> printf("Hello world\n");
>
> :> return 0;
> :>}
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From: Brian Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.comp.periphs.dcameras,comp.dcom.videoconf,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: USB PC Cameras and Linux
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 17:18:27 -0700
David Steuber wrote:
>
> "Hue Jass" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
OK, provide an email address & I'll be happy to send a request. Perhaps
one of the Linux USB web sites should collect the appropriate addresses
for these manufacturers and set up a petition site.
> Please ask logitech to provide specs. Everyone. But be polite!
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From: Gerard van der Sel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MAN page question
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 16:17:53 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
walt wrote:
>
> I posted this a while ago, and it disappeared. hmm....
> Any way, when I call up a MAN page, I can read it just fine, but I can't
> get out of it! Having to reboot every time I read a MAN page isn't very
> practical! Can some one tell me the command to exit the page once you
> get to the end? My book conveniently forgot to tell me that
> part...thanks
use <:> and after that <q> from quit.
You can use up arrow and down arrow to scroll up and down too.
--
Met vriendelijke groet,
Gerard van der Sel
Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"De dinosaurussen hadden hun komeet, wij hebben de Windows computer" -
me
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From: Yah Right <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: oops "rm -r *" Missing part of tree, or at least a shrub
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 07:31:09 -0800
I seem to have accidentally (methodically) disposed of the "local"
directory under /usr on my rh5.2 box. I was reinstalling (ech) win95
and and storing data on the linux side and wiped unknown goodies along
with the ms data. I had "installed everything" from the rh5.2 disc,
what I need to know is how much did I shred? Any "easy" ideas for
reloading the tree below /usr/local/ ? Oh well at least I know that
installing Linux is much easier than win95 whether I go from scratch or
not!
Thanks Glenn
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From: Mark Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Netscape + NCFTP
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 15:29:53 GMT
When I try to load netscape it takes sooooooooo long. I have a P200 and
32MB of ram. There is no disk activity, netscape will eventually start,
after 5 minutes. Ncftp also doesn't want to load. It just sits there.
Any help?
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From: Michael Hirsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: use theramin as input device
Date: 05 Feb 1999 09:18:27 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve mcadams) writes:
> With an appropriate theramin array (as in 20 or so tiny theramins,
> appropriately spaced) and appropriate software (that could recognize a
> finger movement from its theramin channelt) we are talking about a
> device that would let you type on thin air, point to your selections,
> and exercise your fingers at the same time.
Just like in the Dilbert cartoon. Someone (dogbert?) predicts this
device and then says that engineers will go around twiddling there
finger even when not in from of a computer.
Next frame: Two finger twiddlers meet. "Hi. You're an engineer,
too?" "No, I'm just spastic."
Does this count as prior art?
--
Michael D. Hirsch Work: (404) 727-7940
Emory University, Atlanta, GA 30322 FAX: (404) 727-5611
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mathcs.emory.edu/~hirsch/
Public key for encrypted mail available upon request (or finger
[EMAIL PROTECTED]).
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Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Opinions about LyX?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 06:49:32 GMT
Bobby D. Bryant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:
: To see how it's done, look at /usr/local/share/lyx/textclass.lst and you'll
: see a list of the furnished layouts. The first column is the name of a
: .layout file in the layouts subdirectory. You can trace out the basic
: logic by looking at one of those files. To create a new one, just clone
: one of those files with a new file name and a new name in the second line
: of the file, reconfigure LyX to let it know your file is there, and then
: start making incremental changes until you have things the way you want
: them.
:
This was exactly the pointer I needed to get started. Thanks!
--
Boudewijn Rempt | www.xs4all.nl/~bsarempt
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From: "Simon Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: TRANS.TBL how?
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 13:38:20 +1300
> So I examined a copy of an older Redhat distribution (4.1
>biltmore - my first Linux installation which I enjoyed greatly) that I had
>used previously on my home PC and the only real difference seems to be a
file
>named TRANS.TBL which I gather, after searching the newsgroups this
morning,
>to be a filename translation table. Now, I also gather (from a posting in
>French) that I may be able to use makeisofs to create a TRANS.TBL. Is that
>the case? In which case, how? If not, what next? (apologies for my English)
You're certainly on the right track there. The problem is that the CD
filesystem (ISO9660 - it's just like any other filesystem, eg : fat16,
fat32, ntfs) doesn't support long filenames itself. There are several ways
of getting around this. The way Microsoft does it is called Joliet and is
probably the way your CD is cut. Linux can be compiled to read this
filesystem type, but it looks like your install system doesn't. (check out
the mtools package for lots of useful programs for dealing with DOSish
filesystems). You can find more information about Joliet under linux at
http://bmrc.berkeley.edu/people/chaffee/joliet.html
Linux (and most other sensible operating systems :) use a system called Rock
Ridge.
All of this information is probably in the CDROM-HOWTO
(http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/HOWTO/CDROM-HOWTO.html) and the CD Writing HOWTO
(http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/HOWTO/CD-Writing-HOWTO.htmll). You can also find
an amusing history of the two at
http://bmrc.berkeley.edu/people/chaffee/cdnonsense.html
Anyway, I digress (and this reply is much longer than I intended :). To make
a Rock Ridge CD, you do indeed need to use mkisofs. I was going to write how
to do it here, but it's explained better in the HOWTO at
http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP/HOWTO/CD-Writing-HOWTO-3.html#ss3.4
Hoping this was of some assistance,
Simon
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From: Stephen Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: X slow because can't get TCP/IP connect???
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 09:24:27 -0600
I'm having problems with my X windows after a Office97 load
fiasco. I had to reload my RH5.1 release and now my X window
system is nearly at a standstill.
I can log in as superuser and run Xwindows just fine. But if I log in
as a regular user the server and all subsequent windows take forever to
open.
I tried it again this morning and ran an strace when I started xemacs.
The program stalls at point where its trying to open a socket and it
can't.
I didn't really understand all of the message and the following is not
it verbatim but here is the gist of it.
socket(PF_INET,SOCK_DGRAM,IPROTO_IP) = 5
connect(5,sin_family=AF_INET,inet_addr "0.0.0.0")
then it complains that it can't connect.
Why does X try to do an IP connection for a new window? Do I have
something munged in my IP setup causing this? Why does it work as
superuser
and not for user level?
The thing that really cranks me off is that I had this working perfectly
before, and now I don't have a clue. Can someone out there please help?
Steve Sanders
--
Steve Sanders
630-979-1747
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Navindra Umanee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: KDE is my desktop.
Date: 6 Feb 1999 00:35:48 GMT
David M. Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Try maximizing netscape in KWM.
I just noticed that Window Maker doesn't display the window contents
when resizing (by default), but KWM does by default. So you can keep
the resize animation but turn off the "Display content while resizing"
option.
-N.
--
"These download files are in Microsoft Word 6.0 format. After unzipping,
these files can be viewed in any text editor, including all versions of
Microsoft Word, WordPad, and Microsoft Word Viewer." [Microsoft website]
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From: Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 10:04:49 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> i think there is a problem with system after installation. FreeBSD is
> more secure after installation than Linux. Linux distributions are
> made for people without experience in unixes, FreeBSD is made for
> people who knows, what is unix :>
I don't know -- I myself find Linux harder to setup than FreeBSD. I think
FreeBSD has gotten pretty easy to use owing to the USENET support and the
FreeBSD website. Maybe it's because I'm using Debian; I think I'll switch
to Slackware. So which Linux dist. is most like FreeBSD? I always thought
Slackware was, but maybe it's because I started using slackware in 1995 and
like the familiarity. I generally don't play the follow-the-leader game,
and I sense that RedHat and Debian are all the rage.
I would say FreeBSD is much easier to use. But then again I've been using
FreeBSD for a much longer time than Linx; it's just a matter of opinion and
taste.
--Donn
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c,gnu.gcc.help
Subject: Re: Topicality
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 15:48:52 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> %% [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Will Rose) writes:
>
> wr> Paul D. Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> : If so, then I repeat my question: why bother to have both comp.lang.c
> : and comp.std.c, if both are restricted to discussions of ANSI/ISO
> : standard C only?
>
> wr> For the nth time (in this thread alone), [...]. comp.std.c
> wr> deals entirely with the next C standard, known as C9X.
>
> You're wrong. Please go re-read the charter of the comp.std.c group.
> As I said before, I read that group every day.
>
In which case you'll know that [regardless of whatever the charter might be]
the discussions all tend to be about C9X.
Tristan Styles
Failure is not an Option
It is Standard Operating Procedure
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