Linux-Misc Digest #916, Volume #23               Tue, 21 Mar 00 15:13:05 EST

Contents:
  Re: used space on my tape (Stuart R. Fuller)
  Re: virgin sources and linux (Hal Burgiss)
  Re: Upgrading to Gnom 1.1.5 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  fdisk and dd or mkfs.ext2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  root can't do useradd, by telnet (Can Bruce)
  Finding Info On What Parameters Lilo Accepts (mike)
  Re: root can't do useradd, by telnet (Joseph Fox)
  Installing GNOME ("Buck Turgidson")
  Re: how to print the good stuff I see?? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: 'lilo' w/IDE & SCSI (was Re: Used to boot; now doesn't. Says "LI") (Neil Koozer)
  Re: Used to boot; now doesn't. Says "LI" (Svend Olaf Mikkelsen)
  Re: Memory Not Recognized (Bastian)
  Re: 'lilo' w/IDE & SCSI (was Re: Used to boot; now doesn't. Says "LI") (John in SD)
  can't find username!!?!?! ("sbc autodyn.com">)
  Re: Do you hate vi?  vi or vim?  Deathmatch! (Shyamal Prasad)
  Re: Do you hate vi?  vi or vim?  Deathmatch! (Shyamal Prasad)
  Unable to log in - no su root possible (Jurgen Defurne)
  Re: Salary? (bill davidsen)
  Re: Memory Not Recognized (Ed Stearly)
  Re: can't find username!!?!?! ("Pat Crean")
  Unmounting Harddrive to check copy?? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: can't find username!!?!?! (Jehsom)
  LAN transfer speed ("Frenzy Killa")
  Re: Memory Not Recognized ("Buck Turgidson")
  Re: rh6.1 needs to be optimized on amd K 7 (Stranga Kvarko)
  Re: TurboLinux Discussion Forum (Erik de Castro Lopo)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stuart R. Fuller)
Subject: Re: used space on my tape
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 17:10:05 GMT

Stefan Cyris ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: hiya
: 
: I'm using tar to backup my harddrive on tapes. The problem is that I
: can't check the used space on my tape. I can't find any options in tar
: manpage :(
: Is there an utility to get this data ?

Generally, no.

Tapes are sequential devices, meaning that you write to the tape until
you run out of tape.  There are various factors that contribute to the
capacity (and comsumption) of a tape, including:

        - compression (as in how well your data compresses - gzip output
          won't compress)

        - tape length

        - how fast your system can send data to the tape drive (some
          streaming tape drives, in an effort to keep the tape rolling,
          will write null data if you can't feed them fast enough)

Some systems keep track of how much data they've sent to the tape drive, but
most tools on Unix/Linux don't, since that information isn't terribly useful.

Considering the cost of tapes, vs. the cost of your data, just buy some more
tapes.

        Stu

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Subject: Re: virgin sources and linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 17:10:21 GMT

On Tue, 21 Mar 2000 06:47:26 -0700, Gordon Haverland
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Conway Yee wrote:
>> 
>> I have known for quite awhile that RedHat has the bad habit of using
>> modified kernel sources in their distribution.  Personally, I found
>> this quite annoying as I wanted to upgrade the kernel but found that
>> I was STUCK with that provided by RedHat since certain patches in the
>> kernel source (i.e. RAID) were not found in the virgin sources.
>> 
>> While modified kernel sources were annoying, I could live with it.
>> Now I find out that they use modified sources for many of their
>> packages.  This is getting sufficiently annoying that I may want to
>> switch all of my computers to alternative sources.  Top on the list
>> is Debian.  Can anyone tell me if they use virgin source code in
>> compiling?
>
>I believe most distributions do us "favours" and use modified sources
>for the kernel.  Which means that context diffs are often the only ones
>which have a chance of correctly being applied.  It doesn't matter what
>distribution I go with now (I've used Slackware, SuSE and Debian), I
>always go to kernel.org for kernel source.  I still go to Debian (or
>tarballs) for other packages.

Yes, but the raw, original source is still included, along with the
patches. If you want to roll your own, you can always decide which
patches to include. This is true of RH, and I am sure true of others
too. If you install from binaries, you probably are mostly getting
patched packages.

-- 
Hal B
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Upgrading to Gnom 1.1.5
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:08:51 -0800

In article <8b87r6$fru$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andy9701 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 1) At the time, on the gnome web page, there were some special
> arguments which you could pass to ./configure, if you wanted to install
> over existing packages. I already have Gnome installed (I'm running
> RedHat 6). Should I use these parameters, or just run ./configure with
> no arguments?

Yes, use the parameters.  
./configure --prefix=`gnome-config --prefix` --sysconfdir=`gnome-config --sysconfdir`

> 2) Does it matter if I'm running Gnome while I'm installing the new
> version?

You probably want to quit GNOME before you type make install. You also might want 
to back up your .gnome directory. If things dont work well try deleting the .gnome
directory.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: fdisk and dd or mkfs.ext2
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 17:23:27 GMT

I have this recurent problem with kernels 2.2.13 or 2.2.14 (I was using
2.0.36 before) :
I do a fdisk, create some new partitions and then when I try to build a
new file system or even to do a simple dd, it refuses to work (i need to
reboot to be able to run it):

dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hdc7 bs=512 count=16
dd: /dev/hdc7: No space left on device
1+0 records in
0+0 records out

and for mkfs.ext2 :
mkfs.ext2 -m 1 /dev/hdc7
mke2fs 1.12, 9-Jul-98 for EXT2 FS 0.5b, 95/08/09
/dev/hdc7: Invalid argument passed to ext2 library while setting up
superblock

If sbdy already faced the same problem and find any soluce to it, please
tell me how to do.

Jerome


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From: Can Bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: root can't do useradd, by telnet
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 12:30:54 -0500

Hello,

When I connect to my Linux system by telnet and the become root with the
su command, I have noticed that as root I can't  use the useradd or
groupadd commands ("command not found").  Why would that be, what should
I do to change this?

John Bruce


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From: mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Finding Info On What Parameters Lilo Accepts
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 12:35:31 -0500

Hi,
    I need to find info on all the possilble input parameters
that one can use to put on to the lilo prompt and / or in lilo
config that can be used. An example would be
the hard drive adapter parameters or ethernet parameteres or
hard drive parameters.

                                                Mike


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From: Joseph Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: root can't do useradd, by telnet
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 12:43:59 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Can Bruce wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> When I connect to my Linux system by telnet and the become root with the
> su command, I have noticed that as root I can't  use the useradd or
> groupadd commands ("command not found").  Why would that be, what should
> I do to change this?
> 
> John Bruce

Make sure you're using 'su - root' (note the dash) in order to source
the root profile.  This will add the proper directories to your path
allowing you to execute those commands.

-- Joe

-- 
 Sure I could have stayed in the past... ||             Joe Fox 
       Could have even been king.        [] 
      But in my own way, I am king.      ||      
        "Hail to the King, baby."        []   Software Engineer

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From: "Buck Turgidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Installing GNOME
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 17:56:45 GMT

I just installed RH 6.1 using the server option.  It apparently didn't
install any GUI's, which I need for an Oracle install.  How can I install
GNOME?

Do I just need to install the gnome-core package, or X windows as well?

Thanks for any help.




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: how to print the good stuff I see??
Date: 21 Mar 2000 09:48:43 -0800

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
MrJack  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Hey I'm a graphic artist, not a programmer, and still fairly new at 
>Linux.
>
>So, I can't figure out how to make the postscript-rendered graphics and
>pages I can make in LaTeX etc, come out that way on my pronters.
>
>I have an HP682c and a Canon7004. All I can get is/are standard courier
>printouts from the HP.
>
>I do have the printer "drivers' (they're called "drivers" in 'Running 
>Linux' and a number of other info docs). What am I missing in here?
>
>I can make a PS doc but apparently not do the last step, output it on a 
>non-PS printer. This is possible with a PS-emulator isn't it? Or are 
>those only for screen output?
>

        Yes there is a PS emulator, ghostscript.  Type "gs -h" from a
command line.  If you have ghostscript it will print out a list of
supported printers in a terse format, so you may not recognize your
printer type in the list.  You may have to recompile ghostscript if your
type isn't supported, but I think ghostscript as it comes in distributions
usually supports all printer types.  In your printcap you can specify an
input filter, i.e. 
lp|lpl:lp=/dev/lp0:sd=/var/spool/lpd:sh:if=/var/spool/lpd/lp/lp0360:

is a line that says that virtual printers lp and lpl will write out to
device /dev/lp0, and the input filter ("if") is /var/spool/lpd/lp/lp0360.
This is a script, here it is:
#!/bin/sh
# ps_or_text_filter.sh
# This is a "magic filter" based on one in the Linux Printing-HOWTO.
# Checks the incoming file for Postscript or text and handles accordingly

read first_line
first_two_chars=`expr "$first_line" : '\(..\)'`

if [ "$first_two_chars" = "%!" ] ; then         # Looks like PostScript
/usr/bin/gs -q @stc600pl.upp -sOutputFile=-  - -c quit

else                                            # It's plain text
        echo $first_line                        # the stuff we grabbed before
        cat                                     # ... and the rest
        echo -ne \\f                            # ... and a formfeed
fi


It first looks to see if the file looks like a postscript file by examining
the first line, then if it is, runs it through gs (note that it gives
the full path name /usr/bin/gs) with options for my printer.  There are
supposed to be setup scripts for various distributions that use smart
filters, but I've never been able to get them to work.  This is adapted
from a script somebody posted for me on the internet when I asked how to
do postscript files on a non-postscript printer years ago.

Good luck
=========Remove "UhUh" and "Spam" to get my real email address


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From: Neil Koozer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 'lilo' w/IDE & SCSI (was Re: Used to boot; now doesn't. Says "LI")
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:07:56 -0800

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> So, it seems to be evil to run 'lilo' with my IDE disk plugged in if I'm
> planning on booting from a SCSI disk. If I unplug (or disable) the IDE disk,
> boot up, run lilo, shut down, re-enable the IDE disk and boot back up,
> things work fine. If I don't disable the IDE disk before running lilo,
> I hang at 'LI' on boot (booting from sda, SCSI ID 0 on an Adaptec 2940).
> 
> I assume there's an appropriate option in lilo.conf to fix this, but it
> wasn't apparent to me by reading through the docs. Could someone point
> me in the right direction? Having to disable a disk every time I want to
> upgrade the kernel is annoying to say the least.

You need some explicit drive assignments in lilo.conf.  When you have
both hda and sda, there is sometimes confusion because those scsi cards
patch the bios, and different ones use a different sequence of IDE vs
scsi drives.  That is the 0x80, 0x81 things.

man lilo.conf

then search for bios= or disk=

Neil.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Svend Olaf Mikkelsen)
Subject: Re: Used to boot; now doesn't. Says "LI"
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 18:14:30 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>My system to start out had a K6-2/266 CPU (underclocked to 250 to get a 100MHz
>bus speed) on a DFI P5BV3+ Rev B motherboard with one 64 MB PC 100 DIMM,
>an ATI Rage IIC video card, an Adaptec 2940 SCSI controller with three disks
>attached and one IDE disk. One of the SCSI disks was the boot disk.

Note that the BIOS disk number might be different depending on whether
you boot to floppy or SCSI. Look at the Lilo "disk" and "bios"
settings. Documentation is in Lilo readme.
-- 
Svend Olaf

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bastian)
Subject: Re: Memory Not Recognized
Date: 21 Mar 2000 18:12:00 GMT

On Tue, 21 Mar 2000 14:05:31 GMT, Buck Turgidson wrote:
>Sorry to be dense.  I tried this per your suggestion, but I am still stuck
>at 64 MB.  Does the following reflect your suggested changes?
>
> [lilo.conf goes here]

You said that you made the kernel recognise the memory when you enter it
at the LILO: prompt. Thus, there's nothing wrong with your hardware. Did you
execute lilo after you changed the config file? (I forgot this once, and I
nearly got mad till I found out what was wrong :-)

Bastian.



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From: John in SD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 'lilo' w/IDE & SCSI (was Re: Used to boot; now doesn't. Says "LI")
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 18:12:59 GMT

LILO uses only BIOS calls to get the system loaded.  Sounds like your
problem is which disk (/dev/hdaX,  /dev/sdaX, /dev/sdbX) is associated
with what device code, passed in DL on an int 0x13 call:  (0x80, 0x81,
0x82).

There are global options for 'lilo.conf', such as:

disk=/dev/hda
     bios=0x80
disk=/dev/sda
     bios=0x81

These are described in the man page for 'lilo.conf'.

--John

On Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:36:51 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>So, it seems to be evil to run 'lilo' with my IDE disk plugged in if I'm 
>planning on booting from a SCSI disk. If I unplug (or disable) the IDE disk,
>boot up, run lilo, shut down, re-enable the IDE disk and boot back up,
>things work fine. If I don't disable the IDE disk before running lilo, 
>I hang at 'LI' on boot (booting from sda, SCSI ID 0 on an Adaptec 2940).
>
>I assume there's an appropriate option in lilo.conf to fix this, but it
>wasn't apparent to me by reading through the docs. Could someone point
>me in the right direction? Having to disable a disk every time I want to
>upgrade the kernel is annoying to say the least.
>
>sean


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Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 11:02:32 -0800
From: "sbc <cymon@" <"NOSPAM>autodyn.com">
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: can't find username!!?!?!

I am running RH 6.1 and have come across a strange message. After I log
onto my system and issue the command 'whoami' it responds by saying
"whoami: can't find username for UID 501" I have checked my /etc/passwd
file and /etc/group files but nothing looks out of place or missing.
When I am root though, and do a whoami it gives the right response -
root. I do not know what could be causing this problem and hope someone
out there knows what is wrong or maybe had the same problem and fixed
it.

cheers,

Simon

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From: Shyamal Prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,comp.editors,comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: Do you hate vi?  vi or vim?  Deathmatch!
Date: 21 Mar 2000 12:58:43 -0600

    "Ewan" == Ewan Dunbar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

    Ewan> On 17 Mar 2000, Shyamal Prasad wrote:
    >> Don't get me wrong, I love vi/vim (easily the best text editor
    >> I've ever used), but I find the complaint that
    >> EscMetaAltCtrlShift is bloated increasingly lame.
    >> 

    Ewan> You're quite right. I need to start brainstorming for better
    Ewan> excuses. How about... "I was once assaulted by a rabid
    Ewan> street Emacs, and I've been scarred for life ever since"?

Very good excuse! That happened to me, early 1989 I think. Counselling
for a year fixed it, and now I have a rabid street XEmacs for my
favorite pet ;-)

/Shyamal
-- 
Shyamal Prasad
The views expressed above are mine, not that of Ericsson.

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From: Shyamal Prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,comp.editors,comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: Do you hate vi?  vi or vim?  Deathmatch!
Date: 21 Mar 2000 13:01:50 -0600

  "Tony" == Tony Houghton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

    Tony> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Shyamal Prasad
    Tony> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

    >> Don't get me wrong, I love vi/vim (easily the best text editor
    >> I've ever used), but I find the complaint that
    >> EscMetaAltCtrlShift is bloated increasingly lame.

    Tony> On a PIII with 64MB it's still too cumbersome to start up
    Tony> regularly for editing mail and news or quickly su-ing to
    Tony> root to change some script or config.

Perhaps. I tend to have one XEmacs running all the while. I use vi for
the quick su/script change etc. On my laptop, I always have a couple
of virtual terminals running so I can switch to them from my X
session, and use vi in the good old console for the quick root
fix. Even so, xemacs starts up fast enough (but I agree, it is
overkill then).

/Shyamal
-- 
Shyamal Prasad
The views expressed above are mine, not that of Ericsson.

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From: Jurgen Defurne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.debian.user,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Unable to log in - no su root possible
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 19:33:41 +0100

Hello there,

First some backgrounds.

Last week I assembled an old 386sx system together from several
components which were
laying around. Since the floppy drive was only 720k and I had no CD-ROM
available, I created
 a LILO bootdisk and a rootdisk according to the Boot-Floppy HOWTO. With
these I was able to
do a very minimal initial install. Afterwards I could add /sbin, /bin
and several libraries using
the multi-volume capabilities of tar.

I have been able to do several things, however one problem remains. I
cannot login in the normal way. If I try to, I get the message 'Invalid
password for user UNKNOWN on tty1'.
Instead of getty, I have a shell running on tty2, which lets me do
everything I want. If I try
to do a 'su - root' then I get the message 'User root does not exist'. I
have also trouble
running ed and nvi. They both abort with a message like '(null) : File
or directory does not exist'.

Does anyone know what I am missing on this base system ? I have looked
into the documentation of login and getty, but they seem to miss the
information I need.

I run Debian 2.1,  with all the packages from the distribution.

Jurgen Defurne
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bill davidsen)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Salary?
Date: 21 Mar 2000 19:21:32 GMT


In article <8a3bka$sje$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
R.E.Ballard ( Rex Ballard )  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

| The typical rate for UNIX administrators with a college degree
| and 1 year of experience is around $30K-$40K, depending on where
| you live.

  That may be the most important part, like real estate: "location,
location, location"


| If you can establish yourself as a "star performer", your company
| will do whatever it takes to keep you around.  If you make your boss
| look good, make your organization look good, and make your company
| look good, they will want to make you look good.
|
| A "star performer" can easily get offers of six figure incomes from
| multiple organizations.  Your employer knows this.  Hopefully, they
| will see that you are worth more to them as one of their employees
| than as someone working for a competitor, a supplier, or a customer.

  I don't think you will get that money anywhere but in a large city, at
least as an employee vs. contractor. And smaller companies can be more
flexible, providing telecommute days, extra vacation, travel or other
benefits instead of money. Don't knock quality of life, there's a reason
why people in NYC and LA have weekend places :-(

--
bill davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  CTO, TMR Associates, Inc
  When taking small children to a carnival, always have them go potty
*before* you let them go on the rides, and let them eat all the junk
food and candy *after*.

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From: Ed Stearly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Memory Not Recognized
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 19:36:58 GMT

Bastian wrote:

> On Tue, 21 Mar 2000 14:05:31 GMT, Buck Turgidson wrote:
> >Sorry to be dense.  I tried this per your suggestion, but I am still stuck
> >at 64 MB.  Does the following reflect your suggested changes?
> >
> > [lilo.conf goes here]
>
> You said that you made the kernel recognise the memory when you enter it
> at the LILO: prompt. Thus, there's nothing wrong with your hardware. Did you
> execute lilo after you changed the config file? (I forgot this once, and I
> nearly got mad till I found out what was wrong :-)
>
> Bastian.

you also need to reboot


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From: "Pat Crean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: can't find username!!?!?!
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 14:37:24 -0500

Check the file permissions on /etc/passwd.  It should be rw-r-r --- chmod
644 /etc/passwd if it's not.


"sbc <cymon@ autodyn.com >" <"NOSPAM> wrote in message
news:38d7c5f8$0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I am running RH 6.1 and have come across a strange message. After I log
> onto my system and issue the command 'whoami' it responds by saying
> "whoami: can't find username for UID 501" I have checked my /etc/passwd
> file and /etc/group files but nothing looks out of place or missing.
> When I am root though, and do a whoami it gives the right response -
> root. I do not know what could be causing this problem and hope someone
> out there knows what is wrong or maybe had the same problem and fixed
> it.
>
> cheers,
>
> Simon



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Unmounting Harddrive to check copy??
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 19:33:00 GMT

I recently copied a 900+ page website to a new harddrive and am ready
to delete the old copy.  Before doing so, I need to ensure the copy was
made correctly and the site is being accessed from the new drive and
not the old one.

I should be able to do this by unmounting the old drive right??
So when i attempt to do this: "umount /dev/hda3" i get message:
"specified device is busy"

So i am now assuming i must kill the drive from the network to free it
so i can unmount it so i can check the copied website.

1. How can i do this?
2. What else can i do to make absolutly certain the site is copied.
3. Once I'm certain of copy, how do i safely delete the old one.

the new drive was mounted and site copied using:
"mount /dev/hdb2 /mnt"
"cp -a /home/webmaster/* /mnt/"


I thank you for any and all help for it is surely appreciated...

Thanx,
Joe H.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jehsom)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: can't find username!!?!?!
Date: 21 Mar 2000 19:46:14 GMT

In comp.os.linux.misc Pat Crean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Check the file permissions on /etc/passwd.  It should be rw-r-r --- chmod
> 644 /etc/passwd if it's not.

Also check that /etc is chmod 755.

Moshe

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From: "Frenzy Killa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: LAN transfer speed
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 20:54:30 +0100

I'm having low transfer speeds between two computers connected through a
single twisted pair cable.

One of them is a dual Celeron 366MHz on an ABit BP6 with 128MB RAM, an IBM
DeskStar 34GXP 27GB 7200RPM U-ATA/66 and a 3Com 3C905C 10/100 NIC running
Windows 2000 Pro. The other is a Pentium 200MHz with 32MB RAM, a Quantum
Fireball ST 6.4GB 5400RPM(not really sure about this) and a 3Com 3C905C
10/100 NIC running Red Hat 6.1.

When I download files from the linux ftp-server to the Win2K box I get a
speed varying between 1500KB/s and 2500KB/s. This to me seems low but still
ok. However when uploading I get a constant speed of 131KB/s. This is
extremely low and totally unacceptable considering that the two boxes are
connected solely through a single TP-cable without sending data through
hubs, switches or the Internet.

I've tried changing the hard drive and NIC in the Linux box to different
brands and models, but still I get the same results. I have also installed
the latest kernel(2.2.14) getting the same upload rate but an even lower
download rate(about 400-550KB/s). I've also tried the latest NIC drivers
from 3Com without further improvement.

I'm quite a Linux newbie, but I do know these rates are way below average
for systems with this sort of hardware. Someone please help me with this.
It'd be a real pity having a Linux server without being able to use its full
potential. I'd really appriciate any help I can get.





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From: "Buck Turgidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Memory Not Recognized
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 19:58:10 GMT

That turned out to be the problem - I didn't execute lilo.  That wasn't
mentioned in the doc I was using, but I found it mentioned somewhere else.
Thanks.


Bastian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Tue, 21 Mar 2000 14:05:31 GMT, Buck Turgidson wrote:
> >Sorry to be dense.  I tried this per your suggestion, but I am still
stuck
> >at 64 MB.  Does the following reflect your suggested changes?
> >
> > [lilo.conf goes here]
>
> You said that you made the kernel recognise the memory when you enter it
> at the LILO: prompt. Thus, there's nothing wrong with your hardware. Did
you
> execute lilo after you changed the config file? (I forgot this once, and I
> nearly got mad till I found out what was wrong :-)
>
> Bastian.
>
>



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From: Stranga Kvarko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: cern.linux
Subject: Re: rh6.1 needs to be optimized on amd K 7
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 12:51:33 -0700


> > I've installed the cern certified rh 6.1 distrib
> > on a a new box with an amd K7 Athlon 600 Mhz  with 512 Kb cache.

> > The problem is that this machine
> > feels and behaves like 2,3 times slower than it's neighbour  Intel PII 450 Mhz,
> 
> Do you mean benchmark results here, or just the 'feeling' that it was
> slower? Other parts than the CPU (like video card, hard disk
> type/speed) might be really damaging your performance.

It could be more than that.  The Linux kernel has some MMX optimized
code which can actually slow down a 3DNow-based processor.  There should
be an unmistakable performance difference in floating point operations,
though.  I've looked into it, as I have an Athlon as well.  I've read
Usenet posts describing the causes of the problems, but not the
solutions.  I'm watching this thread closely.  :)

- Stranga Kvarko

http://www.ualberta.ca/~wdowler
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From: Erik de Castro Lopo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: TurboLinux Discussion Forum
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 19:29:37 +0000

Chris Hills wrote:
> 
> New discussion and chat forum at http://www.astimsit.com.au/forum.html for
> TurboLinux and general Linux related issues and discussions.

If you are proposing this web based forum as an alternative to Usenet
you are nuts.

Erik
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Microsoft owns Hotmail. Hotmail runs Sun Solaris on their
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