Linux-Misc Digest #916, Volume #19 Wed, 21 Apr 99 04:13:45 EDT
Contents:
Action options for swatch??? (jmsalvo)
Re: NS Communicator fails to post to NG's (Yah Right)
Re: Things I don't get... (kwanlowe)
Re: New Linux user learning fast ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
HELP ??? KDE 1.1 and THEMES ??? (Philippe Vandekerckhove)
Re: BUS error - Netscape (just helping)
Re: ppp-on (brian moore)
Importing .xls files in Applix (Peter Rodriguez)
linux crashes on PPP dialup or fax ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux is dead (Keven R. Pittsinger)
Re: How to create linux cd-rom from ftp sites (CyberMaster)
Re: Staroffice setup problem, help! (Perry)
authentication on ppp server ("Farhad Farzaneh")
Re: Linux Journal May issue ? (cdog)
Re: VMware sell-out to Microsoft??? (Charles E Taylor IV)
Re: printing in 2.2.x (Steffen Kluge)
Re: .gz file format (cdog)
Mouse problem in RedHat Linux 5.2! (I am sending this to multiple NGs) ("Patrick
Lam")
Yesterday's Date (Craig MacDonald)
Re: Help choosing distribution (Steve Mading)
Re: Is NT really 3.7 times faster than Linux ? (Jim Hill)
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From: jmsalvo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Action options for swatch???
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 03:22:49 GMT
Has anybody used swatch??
The man pages does not completely say what are the valid options except for
the example of echo, mail, execute...
John Salvo
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From: Yah Right <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NS Communicator fails to post to NG's
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 17:51:05 -0700
Hmmm nntp you say, can't say I recall setting that , I'll dig that way.
Thanks
"Steve D. Perkins" wrote:
> >Any body seen anything like my rh5.2 with ns communicator that hooks up
> >to news server (ms NT) claims to send messages but they never show up on
> >the news groups?
>
> Are you using your ISP's settings for SMTP and NNTP, or your
> own through "localhost"? I had a similar problem with email through
> Netscape... turned out that my Linux system sendmail configuration had
> problems. Switched to using the ISP's SMTP server, and the problems
> went away.
>
> Steve
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From: kwanlowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Things I don't get...
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:45:39 -0400
Greg F Walz Chojnacki wrote:
>
> I'm looking for information on the following three topics:
>
> 1) Dependencies
> I've been having trouble RPMing some packages; I'm getting dependency
> errors. Is there some source that describes this problem in general
> terms? I know I have to load new libraries, but I'm not sure where
> to get them, where the old ones reside on my installtion...
You can use the rpm query option (rpm -q -p pkgname.rpm -R) to get a
list of what's required. You can then check the libraries manually by
using rpm -q pkgname and install what's needed. If you have a
compatible library you may just need to link to the correct library
using ln. E.g., ln -s libExample.so libExample.so.6. The man page for
rpm (man rpm) has good information. The RedHat users guide probably
more useful though (http://www.rpm.org/support/RPM-HOWTO.html).
>
> 2) Xwindows
> I have it running, but don't really understand the relationship
> between XFree86, fvwm (e.g.), gnome, enlightenment, the architecture,
> generally. And I sure as hell don't know how to configure the menus,
> e.g. how to tell it how to put a menu item for loading Netscape.
> (Currently, I load it from a terminal commmand line.)
They are all different layers on top of the OS. It's too much to say
here but check out this URL:
http://www.linuxHQ.com/HOWTO/XWindow-User-HOWTO.html#toc8
It gives rundown on how some of these programs interact.
>
> 3) How to install apps without RPM.
> I think I have the general idea, but I don't think I know the best
> places to install, and particularly how to install apps so that
> multiple users can run them.
Depends on the package. Most often you'll DL a tgz file. First you'll
need to extract it (tar xfmz program.tgz). Then cd to the directory
just created (cd program). Run the configure script, if any
(./configure). Run the make (make). Change to root level access if
necessary (su). Run the make install (make install). This should put
the bin files in the correct places.
For multiple users to run them you'd need to put them in a publicly
accessible directory. /usr/local/bin is a good place. However, I don't
think RedHat has this in the path by default.
>
> I suppose this is probably a book's worth of questions. Can anyone recommend
> a title?
Running Linux (my favorite).
>
> I'm and orphaned OS/2 user trying to migrate to Linux. I have it running,
> but want to really get on top of it.
You'll feel right at home.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Greg
>
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] UW-Milwaukee News Services & Publications 414/229-4454
> http://www.uwm.edu/News/ FAX:414/229-6443
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: New Linux user learning fast
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 23:45:26 +0100
Jon Beckett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there a graphical editor for Fvwm2 ? I spent the best part of
> yesterday evening figuring out how the config file works for it, but
> it would be much easier if I had some nice tool somebody had written
> to do it :-)
There is dotfile generator which uses a graphical frontend for fvwm & fvwm2.
And emacs. And bash. And tcsh. And some other stuff.
Got to http://www/imada.ou.dk/~blackie/dotfile and chose your download.
You'll need tcl/tk, and wish, or at least a link to it *must* be in /usr/bin
> Thanks in advance to those who read this and reply.
You're welcome.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Goethe
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From: Philippe Vandekerckhove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: HELP ??? KDE 1.1 and THEMES ???
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 08:17:39 +0200
Hi to all,
With ktinstall i've installed a new theme (KDEOcean) for my KDE desktop.
The problem is that when I install another one, the panel below stays in
the
colors of the KDEOcean theme and does not change.
Does anyone have a solution for this, or is it possible to edit the panel
pics or
colors manually ?
Tnx in advance,
Phil
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From: just helping <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: BUS error - Netscape
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:15:09 -0700
Hi
Well I have had netscape freeze my machine and it was more of a library
problem than a machine problem. Same thing happened when i tried to install
star office on a friends machine. The glibc library was not installed and it
froze the machine.
Hope that helps. check your libraries. Netscape has two versions one for
libc and one for glibc I think........
However 4.5 did bus error on me when i hit the whats related button a bunch
of times.
Nick Wagg wrote:
> Ilya wrote:
> >
> > I was running Netscape when it suddenly crashed! I got this message:
> >
> > root@republic-p4-~>
> > [1] + bus error netscape
>
> If it is any comfort, I get bus errors with every version of Netscape
> I have ever used (2, 3 and 4) on Solaris 2.4 - 2.6 (on Sparc 4, not PC),
> HP-UX B.10.20, OSF1 v3.2 and AIX 4.1.
>
> This is not because of hardware configurations but because of bugs
> in the application, almost certainly in the multi-threading, as I find
> that things are most prone to go wrong when kicking off some intensive
> process in one Netscape window, then switching to another and doing
> something else.
>
> In spite of the bugs it is still my favourite browser but it does
> give the impression of being PC software.
> --
> Nick Wagg <>< (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Laser-Scan Ltd,
> Software Project Manager Science Park, Milton Rd,
> Tel: +44(0)1223 420414 (ext 213) Cambridge, CB4 0FY, UK.
> Fax: +44(0)1223 420044 http://www.laser-scan.com/
> Opinions expressed are attributable to me, not my employer.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: ppp-on
Date: 20 Apr 1999 00:26:08 GMT
On Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:51:03 +0100,
D. Vrabel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just a small tip:
> Since there are many variables try
> set|grep PATH
> to get only the PATH line.
or easier: echo $PATH
--
Brian Moore | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | a cockroach, except that the cockroach
Usenet Vandal | is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
Netscum, Bane of Elves. Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster
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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:59:07 +1200
From: Peter Rodriguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Importing .xls files in Applix
I am having a problem importing an .xls
spreadsheet into Applix 4.4.1. I keep getting the
error message:- "Improper function argument value"
Can anyone help, please?
All suggestions gratefully received
--
Peter Rodriguez
136, Kolmar Road, Papatoetoe, Auckland
NEW ZEALAND
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: linux crashes on PPP dialup or fax
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 01:38:03 GMT
Linux crashes when I do PPP dialup (when I say "ppp-on &" at the command
line), or when I try to send/receive fax. This doesn't happen everyday;
happens once in 2-3 weeks. What could be the problem ?
I run RedHat 4.2 in my laptop with the PCMCIA card on IRQ 11 (two sockets).
One socket has the PCMCIA card, the other one is empty.
Since this happens only once in a while, should I assume this as a memory
allocation or DMA problem, and not an IRQ problem ? This is what I have in my
/proc/interrupts (the first column is the IRQ#. What is the middle column ?):
0: 1300938 timer
1: 8082 keyboard
2: 0 cascade
7: 1 sound blaster
9: 199560 + serial
11: 2 i82365
12: 307395 PS/2 Mouse
13: 1 math error
14: 464937 + ide0
Thanks ---CG
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Keven R. Pittsinger)
Subject: Re: Linux is dead
Date: 21 Apr 1999 06:11:15 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <7fgc8s$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Darren Greer) writes:
>>On Tue, 13 Apr 1999 00:51:27 GMT, "*** No Spam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>wrote:
>>
>>-->I have been a Linux user/fan for 2+ years now. Recently I heard some bad
>>-->news from one of my friends. I heard that M$ is working on an M$ Linux and
>>-->they are going to release their crappy products for Linux, except that the
>>-->program will only run if you have the M$ Linux kernel. So I think very soon
>>-->we'll kiss our good old linux goodbye.
>>-->
>>-->
>>This is useless troll mail.....but of course I am answering it....so
>>its effective. Anyway, do you honestly think the countless linux
>>users are going to switch to M$ Linux, to use M$ products their not
>>currently using.....give me a break,
>>
>>Darren
>>
> Of course not. We will just figgure out how to
> patch the MS products so that they will run on
> any kernel.
I'll believe it when I see it.
Keven
--
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From: CyberMaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: How to create linux cd-rom from ftp sites
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:31:23 -0700
Jee wrote:
>
> I would like to burn my own redhat 5.2 cdrom from its ftp sites. Can someone
> advise me on what cd format (iso9660, joliet) I should burn the files in and
> what directories I should include in the cdrom. I am using easy cd creator
> deluxe in windows nt. I tried burning the entire i386 directory, including
> subdirectories using the joliet format but it did not work.
Ftp into ftp.sunet.se/pub8/os/Linux/distributions/redhat.iso/ and
download the redhat
.iso to your hard drive. Make sure you don't use netscape or a html
browser to d-load it for I have found it somehow messes up my files? Use
and ftp prog. Took me bout 2 hours to d-load by dsl. (Almost 600 megs).
Open Ezcd creator, click on new, highlight from iso image, and burn. I
had no problem at all. Just inserted the cd afterwards and rebooted to
the cd as it will boot for install if your bios supports it, and away
you go! :-)
Good luck.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Perry)
Subject: Re: Staroffice setup problem, help!
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 06:17:50 GMT
On 20 Apr 1999 12:20:12 PDT, "Matt O'Toole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I just downloaded and untarred Staroffice, as per instructions. Everything
>seemed OK, but then the setup program wouldn't run. When I click on the
>icon in the kfm window, there's a little hard drive activity, and then
>nothing. I'm running on a Mandrake 5.2 installation w/ KDE, so the
>'glibc-2', etc., should be OK. Any ideas?
>
IIRC, you might try typing in the name of the setup program on the
command line, in an xterm window. That's what I did, but then I'm
using RedHat. HTH
Perry
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From: "Farhad Farzaneh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: authentication on ppp server
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 22:50:37 -0700
I'm pretty close to getting my ppp server up. mgetty does a fine job of
answering the call (I tried for hours on end to get uugetty to do the trick
but it just wouldn't!), I have AutoPPP setup and it launches PPP fine.
However, the authentication fails. I'm sure the pap-secrets file is setup,
as such:
jack hostname hisPassword
where hostname really is the output of hostname.
jack also has a normal login entry in /etc/passwd. In the debuggin trail I
do see that the ppp was started ok, but that authentication failed even
though the username and password name are correct as reported. I have tried
using the "login" option in the /etc/ppp/options file and setting
"hisPassword" to "". I've checked that I can su to jack using his password
so I'm sure the password is OK. That's left?
Thanks
Farhad
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From: cdog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Journal May issue ?
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:20:56 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
May be just late... LJ was handing out April #60 at Comdex and 60 is
still on the stands here.
Mongo wrote:
> This is really miscellaneous! I'm wondering if my Linux Journal
> subscription issue for "May 1999, issue # 61" is lost in the
> mail?
>
> No locals carry it and I rely on the US mail to get it to me.
> Anybody see it in their newsstands or has gotten theirs in the
> mails?
>
> --
> Mongo
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charles E Taylor IV)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: VMware sell-out to Microsoft???
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 18:41:46 -0400
In article <muMS2.253$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Bill Frisbee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Exactly my point, but unlike you I have encountered far too many Slashdot
> longhairs (very similar to being called a WinTroll, a Mircosoft Shrill ect.)
> who think that they don't need this hardware. I DO NEED it. If my hardware
> is not supported in an OS, I sure the hell am not going to use it.
Fine. Now can you please stop blathering about your hardware in
comp.os.linux.misc? Unless you're trying to run Linux on it, we don't
care whether you have a Soundblaster Live or a Soundblaster Dead.
Got to respond to one point, though, which seems to directly
contradict what you say above.
> And linux DOES NOTHING that I need it to. Hell I have been using it since
> Slackware 1.2 (I THINK it was) and keep current running RedHat 5.2 and SuSE
> 6.0 currently. But it STILL is not for me or most people.
Perhaps this is a stupid question, but if Linux "DOES NOTHING [you]
need it to", why run it? Just so you can throw the phrase "Slashdot
longhair" around and quote version numbers?
Followups set ...
--
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Charles E Taylor IV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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http://orangesherbert.ces.clemson.edu
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steffen Kluge)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: printing in 2.2.x
Date: 21 Apr 1999 07:21:04 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Pavel Greenfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I know that "switch to /dev/lp0" is supposed to be the answer, but it
>doesn't seem to be for me!
>I could print fine in 2.0.36, but now in 2.2.6 - no luck! Please help...
I don't think lp can talk directly to the hardware anymore in
2.2.x. Try loading parport and parport_pc before lp.
Hope this helps
Steffen.
--
Steffen Kluge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Fujitsu Australia Ltd
Keywords: photography, Mozart, UNIX, Islay Malt, dark skies
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From: cdog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: .gz file format
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:39:33 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The file is compressed with gzip
Use gzip -d (filename).gz to unconpress it.
george wrote:
> I am new to linux and downloaded a help file that was supposed to be in
> pdf format, but the extension is .gz. How can I open this file in
> Acrobat?
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From: "Patrick Lam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Mouse problem in RedHat Linux 5.2! (I am sending this to multiple NGs)
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 18:33:32 -0700
Hi all:
Sorry that I have to send this question thru mulitple NGs, because I have
already tried a few NGs independently and got no replies. If you have
already seen this somewhere else, please ignore.
I have a question regarding to my Linux installation. I installed Linux
over the weekend. The installation seemed to have gone thru smoothly. But
when I tried starting Xwindows, it complains about the mouse protocal can't
be found.
What I chose is MS mouse compatible on COM 1 (I am using a MS mouse v2
without the scrolling thing at the middle). I actually tried choosing other
mouse types (like generic) and other COM ports, but stilll get the same
message. I think the mouse kind of worked before I tried the Xwindows,
because when I shutdown the windows it was stuck at the gpm line until I
move the mouse.
I read thru the menu and stepped by a few web sites, but found nothing
regarding to this. Any suggestions?
Thanks very much in advance.
Patrick.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Craig MacDonald)
Subject: Yesterday's Date
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 07:40:21 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is it possible to get yesterday's date on linux? Subtracting 1 from
today's date is OK unless today is the 1st of the month.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Mading)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Help choosing distribution
Date: 20 Apr 1999 01:45:47 GMT
Navindra Umanee ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: > Mr "Hate Spam", please note: Take what Bloody Viking says with a large
: > brick of water-softener salt. He had a bad experience with a broken BIOS
: > and ever since has been blaming it on LILO, even after knowing it was
: > the BIOS's fault. He won't shut up about it.
: I haven't followed all these LILO "flames", ohg ubj qb lbh xabj sbe
: fher gung uvf ceboyrz vf n "oebxra" ovbf?
Because he said so himself.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Hill)
Subject: Re: Is NT really 3.7 times faster than Linux ?
Date: 20 Apr 1999 00:29:48 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Reyn EagleStorm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Jacek Radajewski wrote:
>>
>> I quickly browsed this group, and didn't find any threads which talk
>> about [the Mindcraft "benchmarks"]:
>
>no doubt during their test NT was indeed faster than linux. why?
>
>d) they didn't tweak linux, not even the basics.
To the contrary; they took the out-of-the-box Red Hat binaries and
recompiled them using options that are stated in the documentation to
hamper performance. Negative tweaking is nonetheless tweaking.
Jim
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and it doesn't have to be that way." -- Linus Torvalds
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