Linux-Misc Digest #916, Volume #27 Mon, 21 May 01 12:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: StarCraft under Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
How to tell mkisofs to take file/dir names literally? (Stuart Summerville)
Re: using pan: watches and downloads ("Felmon John Davis")
Re: List of all command in section (A.M. Foster)
Re: Linux-users' daft mentality ("Wayne Osborn")
Re: Very slow KDE apps ("atl.mediaone")
Re: Who to install a .gz.tar file? (Angry Bob)
Hardware RAID controllers for Linux ("Tauno Voipio")
Advantage of UltraDMA100 (David Miller)
Re: lilo error ("Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO")
Re: linuxconf 7.1 (Christian Rose)
Re: linuxconf 7.1 (Christian Rose)
Re: Nautilus problem (Christian Rose)
Re: RHL7.0 and PHP4: Apache config file problem: file extensions (Christian Rose)
Re: java rpm on mandrake 8 (Christian Rose)
Re: GCC 2.95.3 Configuration/Installation (Christian Rose)
lseek() problem on kernel 2.2.14 ("Mike R. Prevost")
Re: RPM hell (Christian Rose)
bootpd -s and pump -s example configuration file and other questions (jm)
Re: RPM hell ("Glitch")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: StarCraft under Linux
Date: 21 May 2001 13:10:07 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> First, I cannot find the 'install.exe' in CD, instead, I run
Wasn't setup.exe ?
> F:\StarCraft Setup
It's evident that Starcraf is looking for the wrong disk
(F: instead of D:)
The problem is sorting out the mess with D: and F:
Try moving on the CDrom (D: <enter>) and then run the
setup application from there.
Davide
P.S. StarCraft work good on my system. Be sure to have
a configuration for X of 800x600 with 256 colours, if not,
StarCraft will complain when starting.
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From: Stuart Summerville <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.periphs.cdr
Subject: How to tell mkisofs to take file/dir names literally?
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 23:15:44 +1000
Hi all,
I'm trying to store some files/dirs onto CDR from a filesystem that
is accessed by windas boxes via samba. mkisofs (1.13, under Linux) is
aborting on some files that contain ";"s. They are generated by web
clients saving loaded pages to disk, via multiple files. eg.
./'support_anchor;pg=support_anchor;cat=support;sz=120x60;ord=10492_files/'
How do I tell mkisofs to take these names literally? Unix by itself
doesn't like them unless I enclose the whole name in single quotes, so
I'm hoping mkisofs can be made to do the same, although I'm not sure
if this is an ISO9660/RockRidge/Joliet (all of these are enabled for
the burn) limitation, or just mkisofs. Taking out the RockRidge and/or
Joliet support switch doesn't fix the problem either.
In order to maximise ineteroperability, I'm using the following
mkisofs switches: -iso-level 3 -T -J -D -R -U.
I'm really not keen on tarring/zipping or excluding the files/dirs
before burning.
TIA, sTu.
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From: "Felmon John Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: using pan: watches and downloads
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 13:15:10 GMT
In article <j_5O6.389$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Duane Healing"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Not a bad idea. You really should contribute this back to the pan
> developers since pan is under heavy development. Go to
> http://pan.rebelbase.com for more info. I've always just used "watch" as
> a tag to spot threads I'm interested in more easily, but having them
> automatically get dl'ed when updating is a good idea.
>
> --
> -Duane
> -DNAware SoftLabs
>
> In a feverish moment of semi-lucidity, "Felmon John Davis"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> flailed at the keyboard thusly:
>> Greets!
>> Trying to get friendly with Pan as a newsreader but I confused. I can
>> set some threads to being 'watched' but it doesn't seem like their
>> 'bodies' are being downloaded.
>> What's the point of 'watch' if it doesn't fetch the 'watched' articles?
>> More importantly, how can I configure Pan so that it will suck in
>> threads I've marked without my having to do it manually? The 'manual'
>> doesn't yet seem to be on-line. Thanks! F.
>> --------------------------------------------------------
>> Felmon John Davis
>> Union College / Schenectady, NY
>> os/2 - ma kauft koi katz em sack
>> --------------------------------------------------------
You're right. A very small contribution but maybe a contribution
nonetheless. I'll contact them. Maybe they're agree it's a useful
feature.
F.
========================================================
Felmon John Davis
Union College / Schenectady, NY
os/2 - ma kauft koi katz em sack
========================================================
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From: A.M. Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: List of all command in section
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,linux.help
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 13:23:50 GMT
Alex Vinokur wrote:
>
>
> Alex Vinokur wrote:
>
>> Can we get list all command in some section (using the man command or
>> something else).
>
> Can we get list of all commands in some section (using the man command or
>
> something else).?
>
>
>>
>>
>> ============================
>> Alex Vinokur
>> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> http://go.to/alexv_math
>> ============================
>
>
do a man on man. That will show you how to get the complete listings,
listings by keywords, etc etc
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From: "Wayne Osborn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux-users' daft mentality
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 21:45:12 +0800
In article <9eag42$b8p$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Unknown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> The post below is typical of Linux-users' 'talk'. I guess the writer is
> advising:
> " search in the idle/usr/src/linux/.config file for the 'idle' string
> ".
>
> Why do computer users either want M$-cartoon-clicking or detailed
> key-stroke-lists ?
>
> Can't you think/plan/communicate at the level of:
> "phone John to find out when he can meet Mary, and notify her to expect
> him"; instead of: "dial XYZ and say bla.bla.....".
>
> The midnight commander (mc) is all that makes linux tolerable for me.
> {my prefered OS is oberon: much faster & 1% of the size, superior
> interface). With mc (cloned from the long established [proven]
> DOS-based Norton commander; mc has improved on NC), I don't WANT or
> need to know the syntax for grepping, changing file/{dir never done
> this ?} permission ..... moving, copying, listing
> ....searching-for-file name(s)/contents ..... etc.
>
> Syntax of Unix commands are as arbitrary as John's phone number, and
> don't qualify to occupy creative human minds.
>
> Chri Glur
> ---------------------
> From: Bora Ugurlu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: A CPU cooler for
> Linux?
>
$ cat message_from_bora | grep 'dribble' | wc -w
167
$
--
Wayne A. Osborn, SCADA Engineer.[dnar AT iinet DOT net DOT au]
Registered Linux User #212818. [2.2.16-22-Win4Lin-686] [i686]
9:30pm up 2 days, 18:51, 2 users, load average: 2.07, 2.19, 2.20
...Another megabytes the dust.
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From: "atl.mediaone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Very slow KDE apps
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 13:42:24 GMT
Personally I try to avoid running any wm on a server as a gui on a regular
server is certainly a waste of resources. Evidently you have reasons for
running it there. I on the other hand, am stuck at the moment with four NT
servers where even should I wish to I can't get rid of the stupid GUI - and
dear God it is LESS stable than Linux. Just last Friday we had our main web
server vanish. No hint in the glorious NT event manager nor anywhere else
of what went wrong. So the answer was the usual reboot. Net result was our
production box unavailable to the web for nearly 5 minutes. That ain't
pretty. Also, while on the subject of personal experience, I run at home 5
machines, two in partcular that are set up as workstations: one NT and one
Linux with KDE2 running on it. The machines are configured in a similar
fashion and the NT box is a pig. Konqueror with what I've got (P3's, 500
MHz, 128M RAM, several large drives...) is way faster at rendering pages
than IE 5.5 on my other box. In addition KDE in general is more responsive
than the NT GUI - and as a bonus doesn't require periodic rebooting. I've
had the NT box in one week give me the Blue Screen of Death (TM) twice and
once just flat go black. I'd say fade to black but it was instantaneous.
Finally, on the Linux box I've got those wonderful virtual desktops I can
move around in rather than a single desktop that swiftly gets cluttered and
is a real pain to work in. I have 15 years work experience in this industry
with nearly 1/2 that on MS OS'es and in the last few years have finally
moved a lot of my stuff to Linux, and it has made me a whole lot happier
than MS ever did. As a general desktop on a fairly recent machine I'll take
Linux/KDE over NT any day. And have you seen the specs for the new XP?
Better have at least (their specs, not mine) 256M RAM. I'd say this fall
should be a fine time to start investing in memory chip makers. Arguing
that KDE is not light weight is fine, I'll agree with that, but if you start
trying to tell me that any recent form of Windows is faster I'm going to
have to disagree. Course the nice thing about Linux is if you don't like
one wm, go pick another. There are quite a few that are designed more for
speed than appearance. YMMV.
Rich Mycroft
Software Architect/CTO.
Professor J Frink wrote in message ...
>>KDE's overhead, while objectionable, is not sufficient to cause the
>>difficulty the OP is experiencing. He has a 700MHz CPU and 128MB RAM.
>
>Snap, and kde2 apps can take a long time to load on such a system. I work
>with some kde2 apps in icewm and my users generally use kde2 now and one
>thing it is not is quick and lightweight. There's still much optimisation
to
>be done.
>
>>While Windows may utilize fewer resources for implementing a desktop, it
>>remains a single-user, barely multi-tasking, blue-screening POS with no
>>security features whatsoever.
>
>Now who's spouting "FUD"?
>
>>If you run X on a server, then you deserve the performance penalty. My
>>servers do not even have monitors attached to them. And if you don't like
>>KDE then don't use it; but refrain from telling others not to use it. In
>>my experience, the KDE applications work quite well and the load time is
>>comparable to Windows 98SE, even considering that Windows preloads most of
>>IE on boot.
>
>The server is (amongst other things) a cpu server, running a load of X
>terminals via XDMCP. So the performance of a DE is of particular interest
to
>me. All I'm pointing is that kde2 isn't the be all and end all of desktops
>that people make it out to be and plenty of people use their Linux machines
>happily without it (barring konqueror maybe). Doesn't hurt to try out
>something else instead of nobody ever saying a bad thing about it.
>
>>Take your FUD to www.microsoft.com, it is not needed here. We already
have
>>chosen to use Linux.
>
>It certainly doesn't hurt to level criticism at something, and the KDE
peeps
>are currently working hard to increase the speed and response of KDE2.
These
>are issues they know about and to just brush them under the carpet is as
bad
>as all the rubbish MS spout themselves.
>
>Stating a point of view and the experiences of myself and my users does not
>amount to FUD and check http://dot.kde.org/989353453/ I'm not the only one
>who thinks kde2 could be much faster than it is.
>
>Frink (getting on very well without kde2 thankyou very much)
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From: Angry Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Who to install a .gz.tar file?
Date: 21 May 2001 14:01:18 GMT
What would you like to read? [comp.os.linux.setup or *?]
This is a Mladen Gogala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scroll! it says:
> Make sure that you do not burn copyrighted music to your CDs as it is
> bad for your soul and for the recording industry profits.
When you're downloading mp3z, you're downloading communism!
--
AngryBob Systems Consultant - http://www.trellisinc.com
"It is ridiculous claiming that video games influence children. For
instance, if Pac-man affected kids born in the eighties, we should
by now have a bunch of teenagers who run around in darkened rooms
and eat pills while listening to monotonous electronic music."
-- Joachim Lous
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From: "Tauno Voipio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Hardware RAID controllers for Linux
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 14:12:46 GMT
Any recommendations on hardware RAID controllers for Linux?
TIA,
Tauno Voipio
tauno voipio @ iki fi
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From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Advantage of UltraDMA100
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 10:09:26 -0400
I just upgraded my motherboard, processor, etc... and reloaded linux. I
thought I had attached my drives to the UltraDMA100 controller but I did
not, they are on the standard IDE controller. So now I'm wondering, is
it worth it to move my drives over to the UltraDMA100 controller? I have
a my system drive (ultraDMA33) and two data drives (both UltraDMA66).
Will I notice a performance increase?
A followup to the above; I tried to move the drives over to the DMA100
controller but the system stopped on the drive detection part of the
bootup (it found linux on what I assume was /dev/hde). Is LILO the only
thing I need to modify?
Thanks,
Dave
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From: "Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: lilo error
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 10:29:52 -0400
Can reiser be upgraded without reformating the disk drive?
Ruben
>rFS that do not have the IOCTL to
> support lilo.
>
> Get the latest lilo from the URL below (21.7.5), and ReiserFS > 3.6.18.
>
> --John
>
>
> LILO version 21.7 (24-Feb-2001) source at
> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/system/boot/lilo patches to -2 at
> ftp://brun.dyndns.org/pub/linux/lilo
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From: Christian Rose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: linuxconf 7.1
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 16:42:56 +0200
Pete Barnwell wrote:
> > I just installed rh7.1. the last rh distribution I used was rh6.2. What
> > happened to 'linuxconf'. I need it to modify the users. Does rh7.1 have a
> > different configuration tool?
>
> RH seem to have something against Linuxconf... There is a version on (I
> think) the 1st CD but leaves a lot to be desired.
>
> Best bet is download 1.25r5 from www.solucorp.qc.ca
>
> Oh -if you need to use linuxconf from a web browser RH screwed up the
> xinetd bit as well... if you need the fix to that let me know, it's a
> bit more involved.
Have you reported the problem?
Christian
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From: Christian Rose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: linuxconf 7.1
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 16:43:45 +0200
Larry wrote:
> Same problem. I also need to use the web access so any pointers that would save
> time in getting RH6.2/linuxconf functionality working in RH7.1 would be greatly
> appreciated. I would expect this of MS, not RH. Thanks
Please explain what Microsoft has to do with this?
Christian
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From: Christian Rose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Nautilus problem
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 16:54:26 +0200
Try asking on [EMAIL PROTECTED], you'll probably get more
answers there.
Christian
Sasa Ostrouska wrote:
> Hi to all of you.
>
> I compiled nautilus-1.0.3 and it compiled finw without errors. Now
> the problem is when I want to run it. It tells me that could
> not find the Nautilus-Shell.oaf file. I installed nautilus
> under /opt/gnome/nautilus. I tried also to run the nautilus-clean.sh -x
> as it says in the error dialog but without success.
> Any help will be very apreciated.
>
> Rgds
> Sasa
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From: Christian Rose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RHL7.0 and PHP4: Apache config file problem: file extensions
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 17:05:40 +0200
Neil Zanella wrote:
> The /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf file that comes with RHL7.0 contains the
> following lines (see below). This is pointless as Red Hat 7.0 does not
> install PHP/FI which is now outdated and does not install PHP3 either
> but does install PHP4 which is broken up into the packages php-ldap,
> mod_php, php, php-imap, php-mysql, php-pgsql, and php-manual. Hence
> the PHP/FI and perhaps also the PHP3 lines should have been commented
> out by the RPM spec file as I can now use .php3 extensions but not
> .php or .php4 extensions for files to be correctly interpreted by the
> Apache web server and I am not root on the system hence I cannot change
> this.
I don't understand the problem. Why not just use the correct extensions,
or ask your system administrator to change the configuration to allow
your non-standard extensions?
How the extensions are handled depends on what apache modules are
present. If there is a php4 module, the php4 extensions are used. If
there is a php3 module, the php3 extensions are used. If that doesn't
work in your case you need to tweak your apache settings manually (but
usually you have to do that anyway). I don't see what's wrong with the
defaults.
Christian
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From: Christian Rose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: java rpm on mandrake 8
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 17:07:24 +0200
zaki wrote:
> I downloaded the j2sdk from the sun website, and I downloaded the redhat
> rpm(compatible with mandrake?), I run the sript and it produced an rpm
> file for me. I then used :
> rpm -i <package_name> and after a while I got the prompt back. Where do
> I go from there?
> When I type java or javac it is not recognized and I tried to use :
> whereis java with no results...when i try to install it again the same
> way it says already installed...
> I guess I need to set some path variables? but I dont know how to do
> that and I dont know where is the java folder...
You can use rpm to find out what files were installed and where:
rpm -ql packagename
Christian
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From: Christian Rose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: GCC 2.95.3 Configuration/Installation
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 17:19:21 +0200
Noble Pepper wrote:
> Seems that configure doesn't think you have a compiler either. I don't
> understand why you need a compiler for rpms,
You don't. He's trying to compile, not install from a rpm.
> I thought they were supposed to eliminate the need to compile things.
They are.
> But I never grokked rpm's, that's why EVERYTHING on my current system
> I compiled myself.
[sic]
Christian
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From: "Mike R. Prevost" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development,linux.dev.kernel,linux.redhat.devel,redhat.kernel.general
Subject: lseek() problem on kernel 2.2.14
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 10:26:25 -0500
I'm debugging a software problem that seems to be related to lseek.
I've noticed that the failure only happens on on of my test machines.
I have two test machines. One is a dual processor intel box running Red
Hat 6.2 with the stock 2.2.14-6.1.1smp kernel. The other is a small 486
box running Red Hat 6.2 with kernel 2.2.18-4.
This test program works on the 2.2.18-4 box but fails on the
2.2.14-6.1.1smp box:
--- snip snip ---
#include <stdio.h>
#include <sys/types.h>
#include <sys/stat.h>
#include <fcntl.h>
#include <unistd.h>
int main ()
{
off_t off = -1;
int fd = -1;
fd = open( "/tmp/foo.dat", O_RDONLY );
if ( fd < 0 )
{
perror( "open failed" );
return 1;
}
off = lseek( fd, 2147483646, SEEK_SET );
printf( "Offset = %ld\n", off );
if ( off < 0 )
{
perror( "lseek failed" );
return -1;
}
return 0;
}
--- snip snip ---
When it fails, the output is "lseek failed: Value too large for defined
data type". The errno value is EOVERFLOW.
Any ideas?
Thanks.
--- Mike R. Prevost
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Christian Rose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RPM hell
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 17:29:46 +0200
Glitch wrote:
> In trying to run rpm2cpio to get around a previous problem with RPM im
> told i dont have some libs installed (even though I would have thought
> that the rpm of RPM4.0.2 that I downloaded would have installed them,
> wouldnt u?)
No. The point of splitting up packages and not have one megapackage that
includes everything in the entire distribution is that you can download
precisely what you need, and even on a slow line. The drawback is that
you have to live with dependencies. That's no different from compiling.
> Anyway, in the process of trying to install the libs by
> using RPM i'm told i dont have glibc_2.1.3, i have 2.1.1 instead.
So you should probably get a newer glibc *if you want to use that rpm
package/version*
> Which means i have to upgrade my version of libc if i want to fucking use RPM
Tough, eh? Lots of packages have dependencies. You can't blame rpm for
having dependencies and requiring a non-ancient glibc.
> Next time someone recommends RPM i'm going to commit them. I'm also going
> to remove it from my system as it's (happy Peter?) nothing but a piece of
> shit. Tarballs work just fine for me.
Oh, so you didn't manage to install it on your system because of an old
glibc, and hence rpm must suck. Brilliant.
> All i wanted was to install Opera, which needed libjpeg, which needed a
> certain version of RPM so it could be installed, which needed extra libs
> installed, which needed a newer version of glibc.....pretty soon i won't
> be surprised if i have to upgrade my whole damn kernel.
If you have an old unupdated distro, you can get nasty dependency
surprises when you suddenly try to install newer stuff. If you don't
like that, get a newer version of your distro and update. The world
moves on, you can't blame the world for that.
Christian
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jm)
Subject: bootpd -s and pump -s example configuration file and other questions
Date: 21 May 2001 08:43:28 -0700
I am replacing hp-ux 9.x with Red Hat 6.2. As best I can tell, pump
is supposed to replace bootpd found on other unix systems. First, is
this a correct statment? Second, is there a better configuration file
example than the one found in the man page. I want to convert the
bootpdtab file to the pump.conf format and need a few real world
examples. Thanks.
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From: "Glitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RPM hell
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 12:10:54 -0400
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Christian Rose"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Glitch wrote:
>> In trying to run rpm2cpio to get around a previous problem with RPM im
>> told i dont have some libs installed (even though I would have thought
>> that the rpm of RPM4.0.2 that I downloaded would have installed them,
>> wouldnt u?)
>
> No. The point of splitting up packages and not have one megapackage that
> includes everything in the entire distribution is that you can download
> precisely what you need, and even on a slow line. The drawback is that
> you have to live with dependencies. That's no different from compiling.
>
i will agree there are disadvantages and advantages to everything however
i've had much better luck with tarballs and compiling source instead of
relying on RPM to do it's job. I have more control ove tarballs.
>
>> Anyway, in the process of trying to install the libs by using RPM i'm
>> told i dont have glibc_2.1.3, i have 2.1.1 instead.
>
> So you should probably get a newer glibc *if you want to use that rpm
> package/version*
yeah i kind of gathered that much.
>
>
>> Which means i have to upgrade my version of libc if i want to fucking
>> use RPM
>
> Tough, eh? Lots of packages have dependencies. You can't blame rpm for
> having dependencies and requiring a non-ancient glibc.
>
and what praytell would RPM need in GLIBC_2.2.3 that isn't in 2.1.1?
>From my perspective it's a pain in the ass.
>
>> Next time someone recommends RPM i'm going to commit them. I'm also
>> going to remove it from my system as it's (happy Peter?) nothing but a
>> piece of shit. Tarballs work just fine for me.
>
> Oh, so you didn't manage to install it on your system because of an old
> glibc, and hence rpm must suck. Brilliant.
>
if u want to call it old. I call it pretty new but obviously not new
enough. Yeah, RPM does suck. I see dependency problems so much with RPM
it's not funny, whether its RPM itself or a another program in RPM
format.
>
>> All i wanted was to install Opera, which needed libjpeg, which needed a
>> certain version of RPM so it could be installed, which needed extra
>> libs installed, which needed a newer version of glibc.....pretty soon i
>> won't be surprised if i have to upgrade my whole damn kernel.
>
> If you have an old unupdated distro, you can get nasty dependency
> surprises when you suddenly try to install newer stuff. If you don't
> like that, get a newer version of your distro and update. The world
> moves on, you can't blame the world for that.
>
shouldn't have to do all that in order to complete the initial goal of
installing and using a new browser. Did I have to do ANY of this stuff
with Windows? no, I ran setup.exe and then ran Opera from my Start menu.
Process was done within 5 min. So tell me, why does linux make u do all
this stuff to run a browser? And don't say linux is the kernel. What
else do u want me to say? Windows is windows, Linux is linux. Deal with
it.
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