Linux-Misc Digest #967, Volume #18                Tue, 9 Feb 99 20:13:10 EST

Contents:
  Re: rtl8139 NIC and kernel 2.2.1 (John Thompson)
  Re: swapon -s returning error (Jayasuthan)
  Re: More bad news for NT (NF Stevens)
  Re: interesting web page against LINUX (Marco Anglesio)
  Re: KDE is a Memory Hog. (Murphy)
  Install Help!! (Pramod Mulay)
  Re: Small version of Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Video cutting (Sebastian Wagner)
  Errors compiling 2.1.43 (Patrick Lanphier)
  Re: How do I know which window manager I am using? (Dan Nguyen)
  PS/2 mouse (Pat & Nelda Bradford)
  Re: Rpm question (Tom Fawcett)
  Newbie: Kernel compile error ("syed")
  Re: How can I get the 2B channels up in my ISDN Modem using RH5.2 (rmoburg)
  Re: DVD Video???? (Dallas Mahrt)

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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: rtl8139 NIC and kernel 2.2.1
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 00:30:54 -0600

Malware wrote:
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> you wrote:
> > problem in that I cannot select my rtl8139-based NIC.  The
> > option appears but is "greyed-out" and cannot be selected
> 
> You need to select the option 'Prompt for development and/or incomplete
> code/drivers' from the submenu 'Code maturity level options' before
> since this driver is marked being experimental.

Thanks...

After some poking around I managed to get it to compile by
manually inserting the line "CONFIG_RTL8139=m" into the
.config file.  The option still isn't enabled but at least
the module is included when I compile everything.

-- 

-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 19:54:40 -0800
From: Jayasuthan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: swapon -s returning error

Hi,

/proc is not swap file. I not sure of this.

mike burrell wrote:

> In comp.os.linux.networking [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> | Hi,
>
> | I am having trouble getting my swap spaces to work.  My fstab file is ok, I
> | have created the partitions, etc.  When I run swapon -a with no options, the
> | space is added with a priority of -1.  This seems strange to me.
>
> it shouldn't
>
> | When I run swapon -s I get this:
> | swapon: /proc/swaps: No such file or directory
>
> does your kernel have support for the /proc filesystem?  if not, this would
> explain it
>
> | I don't think the swap space has ever been utilized.  I tried loading my
> | system, which has 48 mb of ram, with no utilization.  Free mem dropped to
> | less than 1MB, and still no swapping.
>
> clip the output of a 'free' so you can better see exactly what's going on
>
> --
>                                                m i k e    b u r r e l l
>                                                         [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>                                                http://mikpos.dyndns.org


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens)
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.linux
Subject: Re: More bad news for NT
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 23:22:37 GMT

"Boris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>>To demonstrate the advantages of the platform, the demo last week showed the
>>appliance running nearly three times faster than a server with Oracle8i
>>running atop Windows NT on identical HP hardware.
>That's because Oracle NT sucks. They way to go is Microsoft SQL Server 7.
>
>Boris
>
ROTFL

Norman

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco Anglesio)
Subject: Re: interesting web page against LINUX
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 23:15:05 GMT

On Tue, 09 Feb 1999 22:46:18 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>Mr Martin was with no doubt against the use of Linux by companies.

I'm not so surprised at his affirmations since he got so much wrong. No
SMP. No clustering. No support. No major applications. It felt like I was
in a time warp to 1994.

That said, I can grant M. Martin a certain leeway: he's obviously
francophone, the article on his web page is in french, and most linux
resources are in english, as are most linux mailing lists. Still, if he
was publishing an article in a magazine (or, god forbid, a journal), he
owes it - both to his readers and to his own personal sense of integrity -
to get the facts right.

I would not call him partial - he'd be correct if his facts were right.
Unfortunately for him, they aren't, and he comes off poorly for it. 

Salut,

Marco

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>           Marco Anglesio           |        Whenever books are burned       <
>          [EMAIL PROTECTED]          |     men also in the end are burned.    <
>    http://www.the-wire.com/~mpa    |             --Heinrich Heine           <
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Murphy)
Subject: Re: KDE is a Memory Hog.
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 02:09:48 GMT

On Mon, 8 Feb 1999 11:02:00 -0600, "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
this little gem:

>Yes, I have done extensive application development with big enterprise
>companies.  Obvious is not so to you I  guess.  I have much experience and I
>am fluent using MFC under Visual C++ 5.0+ and of course every good business
>has required me to use Visual Basic 5.0 (no ADO, sorry) and SQL Server 6.5.

This is probably really off topic, but what the hell is the deal with Visual
Basic (any version).  I dicked around with it for a while, and my god, what a
load of crap it is.  I go out of my way to remove it from my resume.  

Example:

I wrote code in Builder C++ 3.0 and the resulting executable was <500K (all
libs, etc).

The same code (actually it did less) in VB5.0 required 3 floppies.  

Oh and more importantly, it's not C (and does not adhere to any structural type
of programming) so inherently it sucks.



Murphy

"Trying is the first step towards failure" - Homer J. Simpson

For links and guides to: 
        Dodge RAMS
jump to http://www.geocities.com/~fireball_x
        OverClocking, 3D Cards and PC Games
jump to http://skyscraper.fortunecity.com/binary/249/
        Wrestling
jump to http://murphy.engineering.webjump.com

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From: Pramod Mulay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Install Help!!
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 17:31:24 -0600

Hi,

I am having some problems in installation through FTP.
I tried many sites. I was able to do it earlier. But now it retrieves
the hdlist file ... but when it tries to get the 'base/comps' file....
it gives the following message :

"I cannot get '<path>/base/comps : Error setting remote server to
passive mode"

Do I have to make any changes to my machine. I am using a ethernet card
and a StaticIP to connect to the net.

Please help !!

Thanks in advance.
Pramod Mulay
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Small version of Linux
Date: 9 Feb 99 11:25:39 GMT

SaintZero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have an old PC with only a 3.5in floppy drive which i would like to install
> linux on, Is there a small version of linux that i'll fit on just a few disks?
> max 20? If so, where can i find it?

If you really want small, check out `http://mulinux.nevalabs.org/`.

robert

-- 
robert cope     austin, texas     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.linuxwizard.net        [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sebastian Wagner)
Crossposted-To: 
de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc,alt.art.video,alt.tv.x-files,comp.graphics.misc,comp.misc,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Video cutting
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 12:14:57 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Don Stauffer wrote:
> 
> There are two fundamentally different ways to edit video with a computer.  I
> believe the way you are talking about is to digitize the video and do all
> the editing within the computer.
> 
> There is another, cheaper way. It doesn't allow as many neat effects, but if
> all you want to do is rearrange things and cut out bad spots, it is okay.
> 
> This second way uses your computer to control two video recorders or one vcr
> and one camera.  Both devices must be controllable.  To use this method, you
> build a 'log' of the tape by starting and stopping as each scene ends, and
> annotatiing a log that the program provides for your entry.  You can then
> decide which scenes to keep, and which to discard, and call for the scenes
> to be re-recorded in any order you want. When you finish deciding this, you
> then press GO, and the computer automates all movement and recording of the
> video devices.

I heard about that before. But thats not what i'm looking for. I have no
problem with buying a computer thats performance is high enough for
working on the harddisk. So I'm looking for a non-realtime video
combination with maybe mpeg-encoding and software like Adobe Premiere.
But I dont want this to run on the Windows Platform. If i get no
response I'll have to use NT. But first I'll take a look at the winactor
stuff. But thanx anyway.

Sebastian
--
Please use "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" for private reply

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From: Patrick Lanphier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Errors compiling 2.1.43
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 22:49:02 +0000

I am running a 2.2 kernel, however, I would like to go back and
compile a 2.1.43 kernel so that I can patch it with mlppp.  It's not as
easy as I'd hoped the 2.1.43 source errors out on the following lines,
any help would be
appreciated (gcc 2.7.2.3):

make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/arch/i386/mm'
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/arch/i386/mm'
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux/arch/i386/lib'
make all_targets
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux/arch/i386/lib'
gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2
-fomit-f
rame-pointer -D__SMP__ -pipe -fno-strength-reduce -m486 -malign-loops=2
-malign-
jumps=2 -malign-functions=2 -DCPU=686 -D__SMP__  -c -o checksum.o
checksum.c
gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -D__ASSEMBLY__ -D__SMP__
-traditional
-c semaphore.S -o semaphore.o
gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -D__ASSEMBLY__ -D__SMP__
-traditional
-c locks.S -o locks.o
/tmp/cca24704.s: Assembler messages:
/tmp/cca24704.s:65: Error: operands given don't match any known 386
instruction
/tmp/cca24704.s:68: Error: operands given don't match any known 386
instruction
make[2]: *** [locks.o] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/arch/i386/lib'
make[1]: *** [first_rule] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/arch/i386/lib'
make: *** [linuxsubdirs] Error 2


Thank you for your time,
Patrick Lanphier
Advanced Information Technologies
The Pennsylvania State University

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From: Dan Nguyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: How do I know which window manager I am using?
Date: 9 Feb 1999 23:25:23 GMT

In comp.os.linux.misc Marco Anglesio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: On Tue, 09 Feb 1999 12:08:30 -0800, Benyang Tang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:>I am confused by fvwm, fvwm2, fvwm95, AnotherLevel. All these seem to be
:>the same thing but have their own configuration files. How can I  cwhich
:>one my Linux is using?

: They're all different window managers. The fvwm's are rewrites of each
: other (although I believe that 2 and 95 share a common core).
fvwm was orginally a hack of twm.  enlightenment (really old version
of it anyway) and afterstep are hacks of fvwm.

-- 
           Dan Nguyen            | There is only one happiness in
        [EMAIL PROTECTED]         |   life, to love and be loved.
http://www.cse.msu.edu/~nguyend7 |                   -George Sand


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From: Pat & Nelda Bradford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: PS/2 mouse
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 22:04:25 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I'm looking for information on the hardware protocols of the PS/2
mouse.  As a project, I am having to develop hardware implemented in an
FPGA to interface to said mouse.  So far, the most informative article I
have found has been at http://www.hut.fi/~then/mytexts/mouse.html.  All
of the articles it references are either very old (can no longer be
retrieved off the web) or light on the hardware interface side.

Anyone have suggested references?  Any other newsgroup more likely to
have this?  Anything would be appreciated.

Please respond to the attention of [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks.

/s/
Pat Bradford

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From: Tom Fawcett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Rpm question
Date: 09 Feb 1999 08:45:28 -0500

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leo Wong) writes:
> I've download informix dynamic server for Linux, but it exist as an RPM
> files, and i an using slackware 3.4, kern2.0.34, is it meaning that i am
> out of luck and i cannot get it installed?

Installing RPM is pretty easy.  If you need instructions:
http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP/HOWTO/mini/RPM+Slackware.html

-Tom

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From: "syed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Newbie: Kernel compile error
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 23:59:45 -0000

Sorry if this is the wrong newsgroup for this problem !

I have just tried and failed to compile the kernel (2.0.35) which came with
the Redhat 5.1 distribution I have installed. I then tried to install kernel
2.2.1
by following the instructions in the accompanying readme. I did :

"make mrproper" (from /usr/src/linux)
"make xconfig"
"make dep"
"make zImage"

Unfortunately the compile failed at the "make zImage" stage. Below are the
last
few lines of the output generated by "make zImage" :


rm -f kernel.o
ld -m elf_i386  -r -o kernel.o i386_ksyms.o process.o signal.o entry.o
traps.o irq.o vm86.o ptrace.o ioport.o ldt.o setup.o time.o sys_i386.o
bios32.o
gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.0.35/include -D__ASSEMBLY__  -traditiona
l -c head.S -o head.o
gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.0.35/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -
O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -fno-strength-reduce -m486 -malign-loops=2 -ma
lign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2 -DCPU=686   -c -o init_task.o init_task.c
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.35/arch/i386/kernel'
make -C  arch/i386/mm
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.35/arch/i386/mm'
make all_targets
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.35/arch/i386/mm'
gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.0.35/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -
O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -fno-strength-reduce -m486 -malign-loops=2 -ma
lign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2 -DCPU=686   -c -o init.o init.c
gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.0.35/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -
O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -fno-strength-reduce -m486 -malign-loops=2 -ma
lign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2 -DCPU=686   -c -o fault.o fault.c
gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.0.35/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -
O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -fno-strength-reduce -m486 -malign-loops=2 -ma
lign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2 -DCPU=686   -c -o ioremap.o ioremap.c
gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.0.35/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -
O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -fno-strength-reduce -m486 -malign-loops=2 -ma
lign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2 -DCPU=686   -c -o extable.o extable.c
rm -f mm.o
ld -m elf_i386  -r -o mm.o  init.o fault.o ioremap.o extable.o
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.35/arch/i386/mm'
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.35/arch/i386/mm'
make -C  arch/i386/lib
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.35/arch/i386/lib'
make all_targets
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.35/arch/i386/lib'
gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.0.35/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -
O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -fno-strength-reduce -m486 -malign-loops=2 -ma
lign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2 -DCPU=686   -c -o checksum.o checksum.c
checksum.c:200: redefinition of `csum_partial_copy'
checksum.c:105: `csum_partial_copy' previously defined here
{standard input}: Assembler messages:
{standard input}:188: Fatal error: Symbol csum_partial_copy already defined.
make[2]: *** [checksum.o] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.35/arch/i386/lib'
make[1]: *** [first_rule] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.35/arch/i386/lib'
make: *** [_dir_arch/i386/lib] Error 2




I am completely at a loss. What is wrong ?Somebody, please help !!

Thanks in advance.

Syed.


Ps.  I have gcc version 2.7.3 installed. In fact I seem to have recent
versions of all the
      important files.




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (rmoburg)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.dcom.isdn
Subject: Re: How can I get the 2B channels up in my ISDN Modem using RH5.2
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 12:52:22 GMT

On Mon, 08 Feb 1999 12:27:16 -0500, Xaymara Perez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>I have a 3Com Impact IQ ISDN modem (external) on a machine running Linux
>RedHat 5.2 (and the 2.2.1 kernel).  I can connect to my ISP just fine
>but with one channel instead of the two channels.  How can I connect
>with the two channels?  I thought that changing the initstring from ATZ
>to ATs71=1s80=1&d2 would do it, but it still connects to only one
>channel.  I did changed the speed to 115200 and I'm using the command
>ifppp0 up  to connect.  
>
>Any suggestions?


Make sure you are configured, at the phone company, to do 2B. I know
this sounds stupid but there are ordering codes that only allow 1
channel of data and one channel of voice. This is particularly a
problem with some older USR literature as it gave an ordering code
that wouldn't allow 2B.

An easy way around this is to order a universal configuration called
EZISDN 1. All telcos know this code, I hope, and it gives you all the
bells and whistles. 

Here is Ameritech's doc on EZISDN 1

http://www.ameritech.com/products/data/teamdata/pricing/2010iocd.html#U



ISDN Ordering Code U (EZISDN 1) 

    Alternating Circuit Switched Voice and Data on both B-Channels 
    Voice Features include: 
        Additional Call Offering 
        Call Forward Variable 
        Call Hold 
        Call Transfer (Flexible Calling) 
        Caller ID (Calling Number Identification) 
        Conference Calling -- 3 Way (Flexible Calling) 
        Redirecting Number Delivery 
    Data Features include: 
        Caller ID (Calling Number Identification) 
        Redirecting Number Delivery 
    Number of Directory Numbers per Switch Type: 
        DMS100 = 2 
        5ESS = 2 
        EWSD = 2


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From: Dallas Mahrt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: DVD Video????
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 19:57:16 -0500

ven the DVD files will be visible on a DVD disk.
> 
> In order to make DVD movies play on Linux, someone from a country that
> doesn't prohibit reverse engineering of software will have to do that
> with a Windows DVD player.  It costs a hell of a lot of money to get
> the data required to create a player legitimatly.  Also, you would
> have to make the player a commercial closed source program becuase of
> the NDA.

> --
> David Steuber
> http://www.david-steuber.com
> s/trashcan/david/ to reply by mail
> 
> When will Altoids be available in 'extra strength'?
Keep hope alive. Creative has started hiring linux driver programmers.
True the only projects announced at this time are in regards to Video
and sound cards by Creative, but maybe they will offer DVD drive
suppport down the road. I'm sure it wouldn't hurt if linux users would
contact the company with their suggestion. 

Dallas "Big D" Mahrt

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