Linux-Misc Digest #967, Volume #26 Tue, 30 Jan 01 01:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: "data missing" in netscape (Again) (Virtual Moose)
Re: Where to get RH7.0 CD w. latest bugfixes? (milanuk)
Re: Linux *Really* Takes Off Beginning May 2001 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: KPPP Problems (Mostyn BRAMLEY-MOORE)
Re: Command for Standby or Sleep Mode? ("OpenMind")
Cloning Linux Drives ("OpenMind")
Re: Medler: Deleted Library ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: copying /dev/* files ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Utility for finding absolute path of file? ("Matt Ng")
Re: Time to compile a kernel (Phil Durbin)
Re: is there any good browser out there?? (Bill Piety)
Re: Which Linux version? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
language (cth)
Re: Cloning Linux Drives (MH)
Re: PCI bus access (bjrosen)
Re: Cloning Linux Drives (Eric Sandeen)
Re: Command for Standby or Sleep Mode? (Eric Sandeen)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else ("Tony Neville")
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - Christianity... (Charlie Ebert)
Re: WordPerfect 8 on Red Hat 7.0 (E J)
Re: Help with Bash Alias (Mike Mcclain)
Medler: Deleted Library (Mike Mcclain)
Re: bash2 on Redhat6.2 (Mike Mcclain)
Script from dhcpcd ("Tom Edelbrok")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Virtual Moose)
Crossposted-To: alt.netscape,netscape.public.general
Subject: Re: "data missing" in netscape (Again)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 02:15:50 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 21:15:51 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|
|> 2. if you are submitting forms or going back to a site that placed a
|> cookie, sometimes the cookie expires or the data is missing from a
|> form that you entered, thus the data missing error.
|> just start back at the beginning of that page.
|>
|
|Hmm, Indeed I had linked cookies file to /dev/null . But why NS cache or
|squid doesn't keep and retrieve the page ? any other solution?
|
|
most of the web sites that use cookies only keep the cookie for x
seconds or minutes. if you exceed x (time value), the cookie is gone.
you could try setting the NS settings to persistently cache SSL
Documents. (Forgive me, I've forgotten exactly where that is at the
moment..)
I know to use the Dept. of Education online FA application, you have
to make adjustments to your browser regarding this setting.
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VirtualMoose
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Once is an accident; twice is coincidence;
Three times is enemy action.
For most people, that enemy is Micro$oft.
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From: milanuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Where to get RH7.0 CD w. latest bugfixes?
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 02:16:14 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Can anyone suggest a place to get an inexpensive RH7.0 CD with all the
> latest bugfixes and updates?
>
> Cheapbytes doesn't make any mention of how recent the packages are on
> theirs, and LSL's "update 1 CDR" is dated to 11/26/00. Does anyone
> make CD's which are updated more regularly? Much appreciated.
>
You can get one from KRUD (Kevin's RedHat Uber-Distribution) by one of the
co-authors of the Linux Security HOWTO. Go to www.tummy.com/krud and you can
get one for like $5 or $6. Or you can get a 'subscription' for $65/yr, where
you get a fresh set of CD's mailed out to you roughly once a month, w/ all
the latest errata/bugfixes + some extra goodies.
Monte
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux *Really* Takes Off Beginning May 2001
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 02:40:31 GMT
>>>>> "Steve" == Steve Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Steve> David wrote:
>> Steve Withers wrote:
>>> From May 2001 all new Microsoft products will REQUIRE registration
>>> or they won't work.
>> I thought they were going to require "activation" instead of
>> registration.
Steve> Verifying the owner by any other name would smell as sweet.
Steve> Call it what you will. If you install it, it won't continue to
Steve> run unless you dial-up and register it with Microsoft.
.. The ultimate "control" comes when the software doesn't even run on
_your_ computer.
The ".Net" thing, as well as the move towards "web-based ASP systems"
(not the MSFT PHP-like "language," but the "run apps over the web"
approach) prevents "piracy" altogether when the software runs on their
computer and you never see any working code...
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years old. collectively, the community has already been where
every clueless newbie will be going for the next three years.
so relax, please." -- Erik Naggum, comp.lang.lisp
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mostyn BRAMLEY-MOORE)
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: KPPP Problems
Date: 30 Jan 2001 02:37:59 GMT
>2) After dialing and succesfully connecting, no applications can be brought
>up - clicking on their icon/menu item does nothing. On the other hand, if I
>already have a console/shell window open, I can execute commands such as
>ping, ftp, etc., so I know I have a network connection. However, being able
>to use my browser would be nice...
do those applications start before you connect? if not, then you probably
need to install them first.
m.
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From: "OpenMind" <**Mail Free America**>
Subject: Re: Command for Standby or Sleep Mode?
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 18:54:57 -0800
Thanks Eric... looks like a good starting point. Will be purchasing
dual-CPU motherboards and should have a better idea what hardware support
features are necessary.
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Eric Sandeen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Take a look at
>
> http://mobilix.org/apm_linux.html
>
> for a good overview of this stuff for Linux...
>
> I'm not sure how the RH 7 kernel is configured, with APM etc...
>
> it is possible, depending on how your kernel is configured and what
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From: "OpenMind" <**Mail Free America**>
Subject: Cloning Linux Drives
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 19:07:10 -0800
Naturally, my 1000 page Linux book does not appear to mention a solution
anywhere in the index. :-)
I'm bringing up a number of identical systems... the only difference MIGHT
be size of the hard drive.
I'm assuming that if I configure Linux on one machine, and create clones of
that drive to install in the other machines, Linux is smart enough to boot
up and bring the hardware states into line.
So, are there any strategies for creating clone drives under Linux? The
most useful would allow one to use a dissimilar drive for the target
(assuming sufficient space).
Thanks
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Medler: Deleted Library
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 13:11:06 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: Anyone know where or what
: package the strstream.h file comes from.
It's an include file from the g++ compiler.
Regards,
Friedhelm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: copying /dev/* files
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 13:19:03 GMT
Patrick Machado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: The problem arises when I atempt to copy the files located in /dev.
: Does anybody know how to copy this special files to another dir?
You can not copy "/dev/files". They are not files.
See "man mknod".
Also see "/usr/src/linux/Documentation/devices.txt".
Regards,
Friedhelm
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From: "Matt Ng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Utility for finding absolute path of file?
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 22:08:00 +0500
> Not true! Look at the other branch of this thread in which the OP and I
> go back and forth with shell scripts to do what the OP wants: given a
> partially qualified filename, generate the filename with the full path.
> This is NOT what locate does if there are several files with the same
> basename (e.g., Makefile or README).
Maybe I should mention that I'm no programmer and just a quasi-newbie to
Linux so I can't follow the scripts that have been posted. I'm also
unclear on the question then. Is it to find the absolute path of a file
within a directory, i.e. /home/blah, as opposed to just finding a file
anywhere on the system?
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From: Phil Durbin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Time to compile a kernel
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 22:16:33 -0500
I am trying to figure out why my box is so slow compiling the kernel.
My AMD k7 600 takes 35 minutes to compile the 2.4 kernel (nothing special
here , just
SCSI, ethernet card, usb, and sound as extras ) in single user mode on RH 7.0
.
My old 386 40 compiled 1.2 in less time. I am scrathcing my head about this;
I have 384 MB
and a SCSI disk (not necessarly faster than ide but respectable 40 mb) .
Perfomance isn't great but its not awful either . top, vmstat, graphical
performance monitors seem ok. Disk swapping is non-existent. Just compiling
really sucks ! I am going to grab a different distrubtion (debian) and
do an install to see if I screwed up some libraries (I did the RH 7.0 glib
upgrades ). I am also wondering if its a hardware issue. I haven't seen
anything in the logs, but when I tried to load USB module it was spewing
messages to console about not liking the usb (I am not loading the modules
currently). Has anybody else had this kind of problems ? How long does it
take other AMD 600's to compile ?
Eggert Ehmke wrote:
> On 18 Jan 2001 06:18:50 GMT, Eric Ho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >I am still using a K6-2 450 with 128M EDO Ram, running kernel 2.4.0.
> >It takes me about 9.5 minutes to compile the kernel :(
> >Could some of you running fast machines (Thunderbird, P-III, P-4)
> >tell me how long it takes you to compile your kernel ?
>
> What do you expect ? Faster machines will compile faster. On my old P120 it
> took one hour. On my PIII860 a few minutes.
>
> --
> Eggert Ehmke
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Piety)
Subject: Re: is there any good browser out there??
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 03:52:14 GMT
On Mon, 29 Jan 2001 16:57:17 +0200, nybblex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,=20
>It seems that there is no good browser for linux... Netscape crashes all =
>the
>time, Mozzila is tooooo heavy, kfm is toooo light and I can't find any go=
>od....
>=2E..any idea??
>
>thanx in advance
>Konstantinos
>
Tho NS 4.76 is quite stable on my system, Galeon's coming along quite
nicely. Of course, you'll need Mozilla installed 1st.
Registered Linux User 85767
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Which Linux version?
Date: 30 Jan 2001 04:35:05 GMT
On Mon, 29 Jan 2001 14:46:27, Kenneth Mokkelbost
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Welcome to the wonderful world of multiple choices. Choosing a linux
> distribution is pretty much like choosing a car. If you ask ten different
> people you get ten different answers.
I tried a couple of different ones, Red Hat, SuSE, etc. I like
Slackware, it's most like UNIX raw, untamed but not too many
surprises. Try a few out, you will get one that fits your fancy.
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From: cth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: language
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 04:30:06 -0000
I have Redhat linux 7, Is there anyway to encoding to a different language
when sufing the web using netscape?
Thanks
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From: MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cloning Linux Drives
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 20:48:52 +0000
no name wrote:
> Naturally, my 1000 page Linux book does not appear to mention a solution
> anywhere in the index. :-)
>
> I'm bringing up a number of identical systems... the only difference MIGHT
> be size of the hard drive.
>
> I'm assuming that if I configure Linux on one machine, and create clones
> of that drive to install in the other machines, Linux is smart enough to
> boot up and bring the hardware states into line.
>
> So, are there any strategies for creating clone drives under Linux? The
> most useful would allow one to use a dissimilar drive for the target
> (assuming sufficient space).
>
cp /dev/hda dev/hdb
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From: bjrosen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: PCI bus access
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 04:38:44 GMT
Is there anyway to do this without a driver? I'm trying to do the same
thing for a hardware development diagnostic and I haven't been able to
figure out which #includes and #defines are required to make ioremap
work. I'm looking for the simplest way to get at PCI memory space.
Thanks
Josh
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Arne Driescher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> David Florez wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> > Does anybody know if there is a way of mapping
> > the physical PCI bus addresses into user memory
> > space (being user root if needed)?
> >
> > I need to write an application that will be
> > accessing the PCI bus VERY often. The only thing
> > I can think of is adding a module to the kernel
> > (device driver) that maps the PCI bus to kernel
> > linear space ( by calling ioremap() ) and
> > therefore the user app would have to issue a
> > system call to request a PCI bus data transaction
> > to the device driver. The idea would be finding a
> > way of getting rid of these overkilling system
> > calls.
> The trick is called mmap. This means you have to write
> a device driver (module) that implements the mmap system call.
> Basically it works like:
> 1) The user uses address=mmap(FileHandle,some parameter ..) to
> get an address where the mem is mapped.
> 2) The request is routed to your driver and used to setup
> some memory mapping.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Arne
>
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From: Eric Sandeen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cloning Linux Drives
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 23:33:15 -0600
Depending on how much post-install configuration you need to do, you
might try Red Hat's "kickstart" install - pop a floppy in the drive, and
come back 20 mins later, reboot the machine, and you're good to go.
See the RH 7.0 reference guide for detailed info.
-Eric
OpenMind wrote:
> I'm bringing up a number of identical systems... the only difference MIGHT
> be size of the hard drive.
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From: Eric Sandeen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Command for Standby or Sleep Mode?
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 23:36:02 -0600
OpenMind wrote:
>
> Thanks Eric... looks like a good starting point. Will be purchasing
> dual-CPU motherboards and should have a better idea what hardware support
> features are necessary.
Be aware that APM support is disabled for SMP machines (the APM spec is
not defined for SMP).
There are some hacks that enable the power-off function for SMP machines
w/ APM.
Also, ACPI support is um... sketchy right now. Apparently there are
lots of broken BIOSes out there...
-Eric
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From: "Tony Neville" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 18:49:17 +1300
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 04:14:35 -0500, Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >. wrote:
> >
> >> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> In article <94snje$ekf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.) wrote:
> >>> ...
> >>>
> >>>> Wasnt there something about a government BY the people and FOR the
> >>>> people written down somewhere?
> >>>
> >>> ...
> >>
> >>
> >>> The US is a republic not a democracy. Kindly read the Federalist Papers
> >>> for the rationale behind not trusting the populace. It has a government
> >>> of laws, and the laws in the state of Florida were fairly clear, and
> >>> the polling stations had signs giving instructions that voters should
> >>> make sure that their ballots were punched through and to remove hanging
> >>> chads. And if they double-punched, they could ask for new ballot papers.
> >>
> >>
> >> Ah, you dont have a very good understanding of what happened in florida.
> >>
> >> You're one of those insane federalists who believes that his government
> >> is incapable of doing any sort of wrong, arent you?
> >>
> >> I'll bet you believe in god too, dontcha?
> >>
> >> Thats very sweet.
> >>
> >
> >yeah <sarcasm> what a horrid idea to actually believe in God huh? <sarcasm>
> >
> >Considering the US was founded on Christian beliefs I find this normal
> >and hopeful that people might actually have a set of morals not based on
>
> No, the US was founded on Humanist beliefs. In the grand
> scheme of things, Christianity is just a historical footnote. You
> are gravely delluded.
Was the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness a sentiment to
be found in Humanism in those days? If so, Humanism then as NO
resemblance to Humanism today with its embracing of Marxist theory
swamped in political correctness in the form of muliculturalism, moral
relativism, deconstructionism, and social engineering, its vilification of
anything Western and its fawning praise of primitive tribal cultures,
its cynicism and nihilism. Humanism is brain dead.
But I think you're right about America not being founded on Christian
principles. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness for man *on
earth* rather than in some supernatural never-never land, has never
been the cry of Christianity.
Cheers,
Tony.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Ebert)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - Christianity...
Reply-To: Charlie Ebert:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 05:42:40 GMT
In article <955k14$35j$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tony Neville wrote:
>
>Was the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness a sentiment to
>be found in Humanism in those days? If so, Humanism then as NO
>resemblance to Humanism today with its embracing of Marxist theory
>swamped in political correctness in the form of muliculturalism, moral
>relativism, deconstructionism, and social engineering, its vilification of
>anything Western and its fawning praise of primitive tribal cultures,
>its cynicism and nihilism. Humanism is brain dead.
>
>But I think you're right about America not being founded on Christian
>principles. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness for man *on
>earth* rather than in some supernatural never-never land, has never
>been the cry of Christianity.
>
>Cheers,
> Tony.
>
>
>
And you can bet those bastards run Windows also.
Charlie
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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WordPerfect 8 on Red Hat 7.0
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 05:26:01 GMT
Not a very good sorcerer :)
Here is the magic spells to get WP8 to work.
Installed libc-5.3.12-31.i386.rpm and ld.so-1.9.5-13.i386.rpm from Redhat 6.2
CD or from a mirror redhat website.
After doing that, install WP8, it should work and run properly.
Zen Sorcerer wrote:
> What's the deal...??? I've tried everything to install WordPerfect 8 on Red
> Hat 7.0 and it keeps choking. It keeps saying "File not found".
>
> I downloaded GUILG00.GZ and then I tar -zxvf GUILG00.GZ, then I ran ./Runme
>
> I tried doing this as root and normal user. Same thing happens everytime.
> I've run it in X and in console mode. Same error...
>
> I have all of the necessary updates for RH7...
>
> Is there another way to install WP8...without the Runme script?
>
> Zen
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Mcclain)
Subject: Re: Help with Bash Alias
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 06:03:59 GMT
Neither of these aliases leaves me in the target directory
on my system are you running bash2?
TIA,
MiKe
-=> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote to ALL <=-
> You did
> alias cdl='cd;ls'
> but how does this alias process a variable as in
> cdl mydir?
> I do something like
> alias cdl='cd \*!;ls'
> but all my crib sheets are at work. Give it a try. The
> backward slash is an escape character.
RC> Oops! Try
RC> alias cdl='cd \!*;ls'
RC> I remember the ! and the * backwards.
RC> -- Robert
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Mcclain)
Subject: Medler: Deleted Library
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 06:04:00 GMT
rh6:~> rpm -qf /usr/include/g++-2/strstream.h
egcs-c++-1.1.2-12
G'luck,
MiKe
-=> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote to ALL <=-
EM> Anyone know where or what package the strstream.h file comes from.
EM> Kevin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Mcclain)
Subject: Re: bash2 on Redhat6.2
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 06:04:00 GMT
Curiously I renamed bash to bash.1.14.7 and bash2 to bash
on Jan. 16 on my RH6.0 system. Numerous reboots later,
( I switch back and forth between RH6 and Slackware 7.0 a lot)
no problems yet. I'm single user, no network, no X. If the
system is not mission critical, it's worth a try.
G'luck,
MiKe
PS: bash2 installs as bash2, not bash.
-=> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote to ALL <=-
>Hi,
>
>Redhat6.2 comes with two bash'es : /bin/bash and /bin/bash2
>/bin/bash is the default. Should I install a recent bash-2 RPM that will
>probably overwrite /bin/bash or will it disrupt the system?
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From: "Tom Edelbrok" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Script from dhcpcd
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 22:09:50 -0800
I have the dhcpcd client daemon running. When it starts it executes the
script /etc/dhcpc/dhcpcd-eth0.exe, however at the end of the script it just
sits there doing nothing. I have to press ENTER to get the "#" prompt back
again.
How can I get the script to finish? Inside the script I just have two lines
as follows:
#!/bin/sh
/etc/rc.d/init.d/firewall
Thanks for any help,
(PS: It doesn't finish with a command prompt if I put "&" at the end of the
line either).
Tom
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