Linux-Misc Digest #15, Volume #19 Sat, 13 Feb 99 21:13:18 EST
Contents:
Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (Mayor Of R'lyeh)
Ensoniq soundcard problem ("Mark Smith")
restoring ext2 partition (Renato Lukac)
Re: MS Explorer 4.0 for Unix (Hans Wolters)
Re: Netscape 4.8/Redhat 5.2 just hangs very often (Hans Wolters)
Re: SMP Support (Bill)
Re: jdk coredumped (Hans Wolters)
Re: what does it mean when LILO just says "LI" ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: WANTED:Linux RF design software (Gary Momarison)
Re: Using visibroker for Java ("Mark Smith")
Re: sharing files between to linux machines??? (Rob O'Connell)
Re: Help Needed: buffer cache ("David Z. Maze")
Re: cpu processes used up??? ("Richard Payne")
Re: More bad news for NT (Matthias Warkus)
Re: Microsoft Linux 1.0 (Matthias Warkus)
Re: Looking for nice editor, FTP a must. (Matthias Warkus)
Re: $KDEDIR and kdm_on ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Precompiled x11amp 0.9? ("Kertis A. Henderson")
Netscape Mail and Linux (Zakir H. Sahul)
Re: deleting kernel sources okay? (Rob O'Connell)
Recovering /lost /usr partition - The final verdict ("Juhani Vanhala")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mayor Of R'lyeh)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:43:30 GMT
On Sat, 13 Feb 1999 19:27:20 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kinkster) chose
to bless us all with this bit of wisdom:
>On Sat, 13 Feb 1999 15:48:17 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mayor Of R'lyeh)
>wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 12 Feb 1999 22:56:01 -0800, David Masterson
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> chose to bless us all with this bit of
>>wisdom:
>>
>>>David Kastrup wrote:
>>>> While I don't think (as some) that Microsoft should be forced to ship
>>>> Netscape as well at the option of Windows customer, they *should* be
>>>> forced to make all necessary information for doing that publically
>>>> available so that Netscape as well as other browser vendors have a
>>>> chance to compete with Internet Explorer on Windows. And this should
>>>> be controlled tightly to ensure they don't hide important APIs, making
>>>> the task more or less undoable for people not into the secret.
>>>
>>>Here's an idea. If you grant that Microsoft has a (near-)monopoly in
>>>OS, then, as a remedy, why not remove that monopoly in a way that keeps
>>>the government out of the computer OS business and maintains open
>>>competition. My idea would be to give control of the OS over to 3 (or
>>>more) separate companies (one of which may be owned by MS) and have
>>>those companies compete with each other. In other words, each would
>>>have a complete copy of the OS (and the engineering know-how to support
>>>it). To differentiate themselves, they would then have to move their
>>>copy of the OS in new and innovative ways. Yet, they would have the
>>>engineering knowledge to incorporate innovations from the other
>>>companies into their copy of the OS. In so doing, they would open up
>>>new opportunities for getting into the MS-Windows universe.
>>
>>
>>And is this going to be done voluntarily? If the government forces
>>such a move then guess what? You've still got government intrusion
>>into the OS area. It took government about 25 years to get into
>>regulating automobiles under ythe guise of safety before they started
>>becoming draconian; even to the point of mandating 'safety' devices
>>that they knew would kill and injure people.
>
>Such as radio knobs that prior to govmt regulations protruded enough
>so that they'd puncture your skull in an accident
I've never seen one of those. It wouldn't surprise me though if there
was a government reg on the size of radio knobs. After all they do
tell you what kind of toilet paper you can wipe your ass with.
>, steering columns
>that didn't collapse but impaled the drivers, doors that flew open in
>an accident, and the list of "industry" safety devices goes on
Industry safety devices include brakelights and turn signals.
Some of the wonderful safety measures brought o us by the government
include CAFE standards that mandate smaller cars in which you are more
vulnerable to injury and death. A one size fits all airbag which has
killed many people. The auto companies would have been able to put the
adjustable kind in from the beginning but the government wouldn't
allow it. While not an actual regulation it was government pressure
that has gotten the SUVs lowered and lightened thus lessening the
safety of the last really safe class of vehicles left.
>........ Maybe the government should get out of safety regulations for
>Airlines too ??
And where did I say that there should be no regulation? Could you
please point that out or admit that you are just a hysterical ninny?
We need some regulation. What we don't need is this layer upon layer
of nit-picking oversight that allows any agency to regulate any and
every thing in the name of 'safety' or 'for the children' or whatever
the buzzword at the time is.
> You take the first Value Jet minus government
>regulation.
Again with the 'no regulation' hysteria. Its not an either or kind of
deal. We can have something less than the heavy handed over reaching
approach that government uses now and still be safe. Have you ever
been involved in a heavily regulated industry? Until you have been you
have absolutely no idea how this works.
> Maybe the government should also get out of trying to
>provide for safe meat and food products too , I hope you wind up with
>the first E.Coli or Listeria Burger.
The childish thing would be for me to wish that you are 5' 0" and get
involved in collision that deploys your airbag. However I don't wish
anyone dead; not even a jerk like you.
>
>
>
>> I doubt that it would
>>take that long before they made a total cluster fuck of the computer
>>industry.
>>Why not just wait a few years and let the market take care of things?
>>It works slower but it works much, much better.
I noticed that you didn't address the main point of the post.
"That is not dead which can eternal lie,
And with strange aeons even death may die."
- Abdul Alhazred, Necronomicon
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From: "Mark Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.questions,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Ensoniq soundcard problem
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 19:40:30 -0500
Anyone out there able to get Red Hat 5.2 to recognize your Ensonic Audio PCI
card? Even though there are no specific drivers to support this (it IS
Soundblaster compatible) the kernel doesn't even recognize a sound device at
boot-time.
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From: Renato Lukac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.development.system,alt.os.linux,alt.linux
Subject: restoring ext2 partition
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 01:31:47 +0100
hi,
Is it possible to restore an ext2 partition?
I accidently did an mke2fs on the *wrong* partition. /dev/hdd (only
hdd1).
Thanks,!
Regards, Renato
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hans Wolters)
Subject: Re: MS Explorer 4.0 for Unix
Date: 14 Feb 1999 00:44:11 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ACE Alex wrote:
[snap]
:Im a web developer and sadly I have to say that IE4 is far better with java
:script and Css. Netscape claims they have full suport for it but i dont
:agree with that!
:
:So yes,, as long as netscape cant show every page on the net i would say
:that there would be nice to have ie 4!
As a developer of some Java applets I can tell you that MS isn't that good.
On both W* and on apple they have made some VM's that are a real nightmare.
They don't make their products compatible to the sun standard. Making an
applet work on both MS and Unix isn't that difficult but since I'm
devloping on Unix I've seen what's going on. MS has so many different
implementation's of the VM's. I've had people telling me that the new 5.0X
series of MSIE are not working with my applets and other people that it is
working with my applets. On all the *nix platforms it either works or it
doesn't. It's all the same.
I will never use MSIE for *nix.
Hans Wolters
--
Java Search Engine Front End
http://home.gelrevision.nl/~h.wolter/
Linux Links/CMI8330 Soundpro HOWTO
http://home.gelrevision.nl/~h.wolter/linux.htm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hans Wolters)
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,alt.netscape,a2000.comp.software.os.linux
Subject: Re: Netscape 4.8/Redhat 5.2 just hangs very often
Date: 14 Feb 1999 00:46:50 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ville Nummela wrote:
:On 13 Feb 1999, Hans Wolters wrote:
:
:> :Best and cleanest thing would be to recompile with my own libraries then.
:> :I think the source code was available, but maybe only to a selected group
:> :of people?
:> :I also dont know where to find it.
:> Download the 4.5 version. It's more stable.
:
:And has some javascript security holes which allow a web server maintainer
:to brewse your harddisk. 4.08 does not have ....
Could you point me to an URL that covers the topic?
Regards Hans
--
Java Search Engine Front End
http://home.gelrevision.nl/~h.wolter/
Linux Links/CMI8330 Soundpro HOWTO
http://home.gelrevision.nl/~h.wolter/linux.htm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill)
Subject: Re: SMP Support
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:46:59 GMT
>> I recompiled my kernel for smp but do not know how to check if the OS see's
>> both. How can I do this?
Type in
cat /proc/cpuinfo
at the prompt then hit enter. All the CPU info should display once for each
CPU in the system. Two CPUs will show the same info twice, four CPUs four
times etc.
Bill
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hans Wolters)
Subject: Re: jdk coredumped
Date: 14 Feb 1999 00:48:30 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
nonet@chain wrote:
:Hans Wolters ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
[snap]
:Use jdk117v1a from http://www.blackdown.org.
:
:Make sure you get either the libc5 or glibc version, depending on your
:system.
:
:DON'T upgrade to glibc 2.1 yet, since it breaks blackdown. (Plus, there's
:some licensing disputes right now.)
:
I'm running libc5 now and it doesn't give me anu problems.
Hans Wolters
--
Java Search Engine Front End
http://home.gelrevision.nl/~h.wolter/
Linux Links/CMI8330 Soundpro HOWTO
http://home.gelrevision.nl/~h.wolter/linux.htm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: what does it mean when LILO just says "LI"
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 18:00:57 GMT
In article <7a01f7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Trebisky) wrote:
>
> I have seen this before, and heard various folklore about it,
> but what does it mean when a system starts to boot and LILO
> just manages to print out the first 2 letters "LI".
I've managed to get trapped in this because the BIOS settings for the
disks were incorrect. Check that you have the correct parameters in
the BIOS for the disks.
edmond
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From: Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WANTED:Linux RF design software
Date: 12 Feb 1999 10:08:13 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I'm looking for antenna and RF filter design programs for the LINUX OS.
> I've found a few not very good ones and I've asked the ARRL (they don't
> have any info), so if anyone has some info, it would be very much
> appreciated.
There's a handful of links to Linux-related HAM radio pages in
http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/radio.html
It should help at least track down some people who might know.
--
Look for Linux info at http://www.dejanews.com/home_ps.shtml and in
Gary's Encyclopedia at http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/index.html
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From: "Mark Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Using visibroker for Java
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 19:54:00 -0500
You must use 'vbj' instead of 'java' to run a Java-based Visibroker client
or server. This is because vbj sets some options required by the ORB to
find both your osagent. In the pre-3.0 days of Visi you could just use
'java' to run your apps.
We did exactly what you are doing, which is kindof a slick was around
licensing.
That's why I suspect they came up with the 'vbj' idea. It's the 1 piece
your need
that cannot be copied from system to system.
Edwin van Gruijthuijsen wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I am trying to get some ORB communication going between my Linux box and
>a Windows 98 machine. I have copied the jar files of Visibroker 3.3 for
>Java to the Linux machine, on which I hava JDK 1.1.6 running.
>
>On the Windows 98 machine I run the Visibroker Agent and a CountServer
>(from Orfali's Corba/Java book, 2nd edition). Then I start the
>CountClient on the Linux machine, which reports that it could not locate
>the following object:
>
> repository id: IDL:Counter/Count:1.0
> object name: My Count
>
>When I run the CountClient on the Windows 98 machine, all works fine.
>Pinging between the two machines goes ok too. I use IP addresses
>172.16.0.1 and 172.16.0.2 with subnetmask 255.255.255.0.
>
>Any ideas how I can get the CountClient running on Linux?
>
>
>
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From: Rob O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: sharing files between to linux machines???
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 12:13:01 -0600
The NightmarE wrote:
> help..
> how do I share files between two linux machines...
>
> thanx in advance.
you can use nfs - edit the exports file (in /etc)
something like (from machine called sharer):
/mnt/cdrom
/home hacker.friend.com
would share the cdrom (when mounted!) to everyone
and /home to hacker.friend.com
(spaces between extra ones)
then restart the rpc.mountd and rpc.nfsd
shoudl be running in your system (do "ps axu | grep rpc")
then "mount sharer:/home /mnt/sharer" will mount the home dir at
the mount point.../mnt/sharer whoch should of course exist....
read the howto's for more info!
Rob
--
Rob O'Connell - "Work is the curse of the drinking class" - Oscar Wilde
lab#: (608) 2659467 mob#: (608) 3473838 home#: (608) 2519918
Work address: Plasma Physics, 1150 University Ave., Madison WI 53706
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://aida.physics.wisc.edu/~oconnell
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From: "David Z. Maze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help Needed: buffer cache
Date: 13 Feb 1999 20:23:11 -0500
Jeff Chua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
JC> Is there a way to flush the buffer cache so that a "mount" would
JC> read DIRECTLY from the disk instead of looking at the buffer
JC> cache?
Huh? If a filesystem hasn't been mounted, then data from it isn't in
the cache, so the kernel would have to load it off the disk into the
cache before it could be accessed from the cache. In general, things
try hard to make sure that the data on the disk and the data in the
cache is consistent; reading from the cache should *always* give you
the same data as if the cache wasn't there, if it doesn't that's a
bug.
Why exactly do you want to do this?
--
David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://donut.mit.edu/dmaze/
"Hey, Doug, do you mind if I push the Emergency Booth Self-Destruct Button?"
"Oh, sure, Dave, whatever...you _do_ know what that does, right?"
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From: "Richard Payne" <payner at timken dot com>
Crossposted-To: ucb.os.linux
Subject: Re: cpu processes used up???
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:40:29 -0500
I remember reading a while ago that there's a bug in control-panel
that causes this. If you exit X-windows with control-panel running
control-panel does not exit properly. So your best chance is to
exit c-p before getting out of X. You could also kill it from the
command line if necessary.
As for Netscape and StarOffice, well Netscape I don't have that
problem, but after a few days of use it needs to be killed and
started again. Can't say for StartOffice, don't use it.
--
Rich Payne
(Speaking for myself, not my employer)
payner at timken dot com
Looking for Alpha-Linux info?
http://www.alphalinux.org
Gordon Vrdoljak wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Hello, I am getting problems of errant jobs on my redhat 5.2 linux
>(2.2.1 kernel)- 64
>megs of ram on a pentium II 266. This is one example of the control
>panel run by root,
>
>824 root 14 0 1624 1624 1224 R 0 90.8 2.5 980:54
>control-pane
>
>it is using over 90% of cpu resources - way too much! Is this normal to
>have jobs
>like this left hanging? Netscape and star office often leave things
>hanging and need to
>be killed as well.
>
>Here is an example of the full output from top: Also, I was wondering
>if all these processes should be running as 'root'? Upon rebooting, I
>often get a lot of memory
>back - about 30 megs or so. After running for a day or so, I only have
>2 megs free from
>memory.
>
>43 processes: 40 sleeping, 3 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped
>CPU states: 98.3% user, 1.5% system, 0.0% nice, 0.7% idle
>Mem: 63224K av, 61632K used, 1592K free, 32604K shrd, 3324K buff
>
>Swap: 130748K av, 384K used, 130364K free 33912K
>cached
>
> PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT LIB %CPU %MEM TIME
>COMMAND
> 824 root 18 0 1624 1624 1224 R 0 97.3 2.5 983:05
>control-pane
> 1101 gordon 1 0 728 728 564 R 0 0.7 1.1 0:02 top
> 1132 root 0 0 896 896 556 S 0 0.5 1.4 0:00 su
> 1133 root 0 0 808 808 632 S 0 0.5 1.2 0:00 bash
> 214 root 0 0 400 396 324 S 0 0.1 0.6 0:00
>syslogd
> 342 root 0 0 12888 12M 1540 S 0 0.1 20.3 3:41 X
> 1103 gordon 0 0 820 820 640 S 0 0.1 1.2 0:00 bash
> 1 root 0 0 388 388 328 S 0 0.0 0.6 0:03 init
> 2 root 0 0 0 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00
>kflushd
> 3 root 0 0 0 0 0 SW 0 0.0 0.0 0:00
>kswapd
> 65 root 0 0 312 308 260 S 0 0.0 0.4 0:00
>kerneld
> 200 bin 0 0 276 272 212 S 0 0.0 0.4 0:00
>portmap
> 223 root 0 0 612 608 280 S 0 0.0 0.9 0:00 klogd
>
> 234 daemon 0 0 284 264 208 S 0 0.0 0.4 0:00 atd
> 245 root 0 0 448 444 368 S 0 0.0 0.7 0:00 crond
>
> 256 root 0 0 372 364 304 S 0 0.0 0.5 0:00 inetd
>
> 267 root 0 0 384 376 308 S 0 0.0 0.5 0:00 lpd
> 284 root 0 0 668 560 440 S 0 0.0 0.8 0:00
>sendmail
> 296 root 0 0 256 244 208 S 0 0.0 0.3 0:00 gpm
> 307 root 0 0 500 416 304 S 0 0.0 0.6 0:00 smbd
> 316 root 0 0 652 648 496 S 0 0.0 1.0 0:03 nmbd
> 332 root 0 0 296 296 248 S 0 0.0 0.4 0:00
>mingetty
> 333 root 0 0 296 296 248 S 0 0.0 0.4 0:00
>mingetty
> 334 root 0 0 296 296 248 S 0 0.0 0.4 0:00
>mingetty
> 335 root 0 0 296 296 248 S 0 0.0 0.4 0:00
>mingetty
> 336 root 0 0 296 296 248 S 0 0.0 0.4 0:00
>mingetty
> 337 root 0 0 296 296 248 S 0 0.0 0.4 0:00
>mingetty
> 338 root 0 0 1016 1016 864 S 0 0.0 1.6 0:00 xdm
> 340 root 0 0 140 120 100 S 0 0.0 0.1 0:00
>update
> 842 root 0 0 1684 1684 1328 S 0 0.0 2.6 0:00 xdm
> 995 gordon 0 0 1312 1312 884 S 0 0.0 2.0 0:01 fvwm2
>
> 1076 gordon 0 0 788 788 652 S 0 0.0 1.2 0:00
>FvwmTaskBar
> 1077 gordon 0 0 752 752 640 S 0 0.0 1.1 0:00
>FvwmButtons
> 1079 root 0 0 2080 2080 1248 S 0 0.0 3.2 0:00
>nxterm
> 1080 gordon 16 16 1272 1272 1044 S N 0 0.0 2.0 0:00 xload
>
> 1081 gordon 0 0 820 820 640 S 0 0.0 1.2 0:00 bash
> 1082 gordon 0 0 700 700 592 S 0 0.0 1.1 0:00
>FvwmPager
> 1098 gordon 0 0 756 756 580 S 0 0.0 1.1 0:00
>telnet
> 1099 root 0 0 2072 2072 1244 R 0 0.0 3.2 0:01
>nxterm
> 1100 gordon 0 0 820 820 640 S 0 0.0 1.2 0:00 bash
>
>Any comments appreciated - please send them to
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>as well as the newsgroup.
>Gordon.
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.linux
Subject: Re: More bad news for NT
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 20:47:09 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the Sat, 13 Feb 1999 01:28:30 -0600...
..and Bobby D. Bryant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > [...]
> > > Huh? Database *appliance*?
> > > Does that mean, some kind of Oracle Fridge(TM)?
> >
> > Yep. Cool, eh? Soon to be released: SQL/Oven, SQL/Toaster and SQL/Blender.
> > They'll be available as individual packages or in the complete SQL/Kitchen
> > suite. The development kits include Pan/SQL, Pot/SQL, and Knife/SQL. The new
> > user interface is the Oracle PlaceSetting package.
>
> Yeah, you'll be able to ask your oven what temperature you used to re-warm the
> pizza last time around.
But you'll need to do it with a syntactically correct,
standards-compliant SQL query or it just won't work.
mawa
--
The utility of a fancy Web browser is damn near zero compared with the
utility of a really good text editor.
-- mawa
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Subject: Re: Microsoft Linux 1.0
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 21:46:03 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the Sat, 13 Feb 1999 01:26:22 +0100...
..and Cj.Spaans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Check your unix-historybook and find out. SCO is a corp. from Microsoft
> and Xenix is modified AT&T UNIX. It's main name is SV/386 and is one of
> the most sold (in number) UNIX-versions.
>
> So before you're reply a message next time check you data. I have worked
> for along time with SCO and SUN UNIX, and I'm now working with HP-UX for HP.
> I think I know wat I'm talking about, but no hard feeling.
I know that Xenix was made by Microsoft.
But I don't think SCO is owned by MS.
mawa
--
The scum also rises.
-- Dr. Hunter S. Thompson
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Subject: Re: Looking for nice editor, FTP a must.
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 21:45:10 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the 11 Feb 1999 22:22:32 +0000...
..and James Youngman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Chad M. Townsend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > I am looking for a editor like 'Codewrite for win95'. The most important
> > feature I need is the ability for it to be able to FTP files in and out. Like
> > BBEdit for Macs, anyone see anything like that?
>
>
> > Does emacs do that?
>
> Yes. See "ange-ftp" in the documentation.
>
> It will also tell you what the time is (western or Mayan calendars),
> remind you that it's your wife's birthday, remind you *again* that
> it's your wife's birthday, and that you really should go home now,
> have several windows open on machines several thousand miles apart,
> play Sokoban, syntax-highlight your code, hide copyright statements in
> edited code, hide the code inside inactive #ifdefs, provide code
> navigation, word completion, and bracket-balancing, send email, read
> Usenet news, automatically update change logs, transparently handle
> source code control systems, warn you when your laptop battery is low,
> highlight the differences between versions of files, edit tar files,
> simulate Conway's Life (someone has to have one), play an adventure
> game, drive TeX, make fun of the NSA, and provide tailored modes for
> several dozen programming languages.
It will also let you play Blackbox, give you multibyte character
support, pull-down menus, context menus, it can psychoanalyse you, it
can psychoanalyse Zippy the Pinhead, you can use it as a database or a
spreadsheet, and, most important: it tells you when you need a typing
break, and during the break, it shows the Towers of Hanoi.
mawa
--
"The DOS ain't done 'till Lotus won't run."
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.help
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: $KDEDIR and kdm_on
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 16:30:09 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Wojtek Lukaszewicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just installed KDE1.1pre2 on my RH5.2 system, no
> sweat...
> [root@Nowy /root]# /opt/kde/bin/kdm_on
> "kdm_on" cannot run because $KDEDIR is not set:
Either logout and in again or do a :
. /etc/profile.d/kde.sh
KDEDIR is setup by this script
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From: "Kertis A. Henderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Precompiled x11amp 0.9?
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 13:27:13 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Can anybody send me or direct me to a compiled x11amp 0.9alpha2? I'm
>
> I picked up an rpm right off their www site
I don't see any binaries on their site. Could you give me the URL?
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Kertis Henderson
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Zakir H. Sahul)
Subject: Netscape Mail and Linux
Date: 13 Feb 1999 16:55:34 -0800
Configuration: One linux machine. Several public Windows 95/98 machines with
Netscape Communicator that are always logged on as "guest."
Problem: All email delivered to linux machine. Need to allow each user
on the public "guest" Windows machines to access their email using
the "Messenger" part of Netscape Communicator using a simple log-on/log-off
procedure.
Question: How? (Pointers to helpful docs appreciated.)
Thanks.
-Zak.
PS: Please also email me responses if at all possible.
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From: Rob O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: deleting kernel sources okay?
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 12:27:41 -0600
Mengmeng Zhang wrote:
> Rob O'Connell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> : Juergen Heinzl wrote:
>
> : > >> I recently upgraded my kernel to 2.2.1. I was wondering after
> : > >> successfully installing and
> : > >> running the new kernel - can I now delete the source files under:
> : > >> /usr/src/linux?
> : > >
> : > >Yes.
> : > ...aehm, no ... at least if you still want to compile something ...
> : > >
> : >
>
> : ahem, (more phlegm) ahem! I think Tim is correct - true if the guy had not
> : installed the 2.2.1 kernel source he would have no include files...so it
> : *is* a waste of space
>
> : Rob
>
> I'm not sure what you're saying, but you definitely don't want to delete
> the entire /usr/src/linux tree.
> If you delete the entire /usr/src/linux tree, you'll lose quite a few system
> include files which are needed by many programs to compile.
>
> HTH,
> MZhang
jeez - the guy made it clear he had installed 2.2.1 source - he wants to delete
2.0.36 or so - hence he will still have all his include files with the 2.2.1
source, which since he said he installed, means he probably has the linux link
all setup -hence he has all the include files from the 2.2.1 source - so no
problem with deleting completely the old 2.0.35 and getting all that space
back...
here's the quote again:
> : > >> I recently upgraded my kernel to 2.2.1. I was wondering after
>
maybe I just like "rm -rf *" a bit too much 8-)
Rob
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From: "Juhani Vanhala" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Recovering /lost /usr partition - The final verdict
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 17:41:29 -0800
After spending a a week trying to recover my lost /dev/hdb5, I finally came
to conclusion that it really cannot be done. I tried to delete the only FAT
partition on hdb with Win98 fdisk, but fdisk decided to delete the first
logical partition instead (my linux /usr). All this week I had hopes that my
data would still be there, but finally I have to give up. :-(
I used dd to dump first 2 megs of /dev/hdb5 to a file and used hex editor to
figure out what was wrong. It turned out that DOS fdsk had written 512 byte
chunks of 0xF6,0XF6, 0xF6... data randomly allover the partition!! Why Bill,
WHY!?!?! There must be a law agains such stupidity somewhere!
- Juhani
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