Linux-Misc Digest #15, Volume #28 Sun, 3 Jun 01 09:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Linux in college & high school ("Rolf Marvin B�e Lindgren")
Re: I need a really small distro for an old puter (Harold Stevens US.972.952.3293)
Re: Linux in college & high school ("Ayende Rahien")
Re: "invalid option" error while building gcc as a cross-compiler (Roman Zippel)
Re: Advice: Best Linux Virus Protection (Richard Steiner)
Re: DVD: FreeBSD or Linux? (Zenin)
Re: restric telnet access. (nordi)
Re: Request for research (Joan Hansen)
Re: how to deal with 1024 cylinder limitation when installing rh7.1? (Markku Kolkka)
Re: i386, i586, i686? (Markku Kolkka)
Re: Mozilla a memory hog (Markku Kolkka)
Re: gcc version in RH 7.0, 7.1 and Mandrake 8.0 (Dave Uhring)
Re: help a newbie? (Dave Uhring)
SuSE on GA-5AX (Raphael Pigulla)
Re: "invalid option" error while building gcc as a cross-compiler (Jim Wallis)
apache+php+mysql ("Sebastian Volland")
Student having a problem booting Linux Red Hat 7.0 Please Help ("Ioan Jones")
Re: how to deal with 1024 cylinder limitation when installing rh7.1? (Robert Heller)
Re: Student having a problem booting Linux Red Hat 7.0 Please Help (Robert Heller)
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From: "Rolf Marvin B�e Lindgren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux in college & high school
Date: 03 Jun 2001 11:23:44 +0200
[Marc Schlensog]
| Craig, that was a dumb one. MacOS X isn't even remotely linked to
| Linux.
there's a pretty close link inasmuch as they're both unices.
| Yes, true may be the fact that it's UN*X-based, but that'd be some
| *BSD-flavor and not Linux. Furthermore, I don't think, that Aqua is
| X-based, is it?
so what?
--
Rolf Lindgren http://www.roffe.com/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Harold Stevens US.972.952.3293)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,aus.computers.linux
Subject: Re: I need a really small distro for an old puter
Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 09:44:06 GMT
In <lomS6.36227$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, A.J:
>You might have a look at peanut Linux too
>and tims tiny linux
>You'll find them all at www.sourceforge.org
>or www.freshmeat.net
[Snip...]
...or Tom's rootboot
http://www.toms.net/rb/
(includes links to other "tiny" Linux installs, some already mentioned).
Read the FAQ first; I think Tom's will run in 8 MB RAM although I didn't
see it mentioned specifically in my quick review of the FAQ just now.
I've used Tom's often and it's superb for small RAM scenarios.
--
Regards, Weird (Harold Stevens) * IMPORTANT EMAIL INFO FOLLOWS *
Pardon the bogus email domain (dseg etc.) in place for spambots.
Really it's (wyrd) at raytheon, dotted with com. DO NOT SPAM IT.
Standard Disclaimer: These are my opinions not Raytheon Company.
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From: "Ayende Rahien" <don'[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux in college & high school
Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 12:46:23 +0200
"Rolf Marvin B�e Lindgren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [Marc Schlensog]
>
> | Craig, that was a dumb one. MacOS X isn't even remotely linked to
> | Linux.
>
> there's a pretty close link inasmuch as they're both unices.
The relation is about as much as between NT & VMS.
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From: Roman Zippel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.m68k
Subject: Re: "invalid option" error while building gcc as a cross-compiler
Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 11:51:50 +0200
Hi,
Scott Alfter wrote:
> host i586-pc-linux-gnu
> target m68k-mac-linux-gnu
> prefix /usr/local/gcc-m68k
> i /usr/local/gcc-m68k/bin
> CFLAGS -O2 -march=i586 -fomit-frame-pointer
>
> Originally, CFLAGS included -march=k6 instead of -march=i586, as I usually
> optimize binaries for the AMD processors that I run. Leaving out -march=___
> altogether lets the compile process go further, but eventually it conks out
> again:
>
> for name in _muldi3 _divdi3 _moddi3 _udivdi3 _umoddi3 _negdi2 _lshrdi3 _ash
> ldi3 _ashrdi3 _ffsdi2 _udiv_w_sdiv _udivmoddi4 _cmpdi2 _ucmpdi2 _floatdidf
> _floatdisf _fixunsdfsi _fixunssfsi _fixunsdfdi _fixdfdi _fixunssfdi _fixsfd
> i _fixxfdi _fixunsxfdi _floatdixf _fixunsxfsi _fixtfdi _fixunstfdi _floatdi
> tf __gcc_bcmp _varargs __dummy _eprintf _bb _shtab _clear_cache _trampoline
> __main _exit _ctors _pure; \
> do \
> echo ${name}; \
> /home/salfter/gcc-m68k/build-gcc/gcc/xgcc -B/home/salfter/gcc-m68k/build-
> gcc/gcc/ -B/usr/local/gcc-m68k/m68k-mac-linux-gnu/bin/ -I/usr/local/gcc-m68
> k/m68k-mac-linux-gnu/include -O2 -DCROSS_COMPILE -DIN_GCC -O2 -fomit-f
> rame-pointer -I./include -fPIC -g1 -DIN_LIBGCC2 -D__GCC_FLOAT_NOT_NEEDED
> -I. -I../../gcc-2.95.3/gcc -I../../gcc-2.95.3/gcc/config -I../../gcc-2.95
> .3/gcc/../include -c -DL${name} \
> ../../gcc-2.95.3/gcc/libgcc2.c -o ${name}.o; \
> if [ $? -eq 0 ] ; then true; else exit 1; fi; \
> m68k-mac-linux-gnu-ar rc tmplibgcc2.a ${name}.o; \
> rm -f ${name}.o; \
> done
> _muldi3
> ../../gcc-2.95.3/gcc/libgcc2.c:41: stdlib.h: No such file or directory
> ../../gcc-2.95.3/gcc/libgcc2.c:42: unistd.h: No such file or directory
> make[1]: *** [libgcc2.a] Error 1
> make[1]: Leaving directory /home/salfter/gcc-m68k/build-gcc/gcc'
> make: *** [all-gcc] Error 2
>
> These files, of course, are in /usr/include, so why would it be complaining
> about these files being missing?
The cross compiler is looking for the native headers, copy them from
your mac and put them into $prefix/$target/include. You might hit
another problem, where the cross compiler can't find the headers, you
have to manually create the installation directory
$prefix/lib/gcc-lib/$target/2.95.3, since the cross compiler tries to
find the system headers relative to this directory.
bye, Roman
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Subject: Re: Advice: Best Linux Virus Protection
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 05:21:13 -0500
Here in comp.os.linux.misc, "David Kistner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
spake unto us, saying:
>Could you recommend a good virus protection for my Linux workstation?
Don't spend any unnecessary time (or run unnecessary software) as root
or any superuser equivalent, and make sure that any unnecessary network
services are turned off in your machines.
"Viruses" for Linux are almost nonexistent, but there are other ways
for a box to be trashed...
--
-Rich Steiner >>>---> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>---> Eden Prairie, MN
OS/2 + BeOS + Linux + Solaris + Win95 + WinNT4 + FreeBSD + DOS
+ PC/GEOS + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
Usenet: the tenacity and intelligence of a tick _is_ a survival trait!
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From: Zenin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,linux.debian.user
Subject: Re: DVD: FreeBSD or Linux?
Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 11:15:55 -0000
In comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc wroot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Richard Tobin wrote:
:>>P.S. As a different FreeBSD vs Debian issue: is it true that FreeBSD does
:>>not authomate upgrading? (Like upgrading from 4.x to 5.y)
:>
:> What do you mean by "automate"?
:
: = enable upgrading with 1 - 2 commands as opposed to burning a new CD,
: rebooting, etc. (I'm not talking about minor 4.2 -> 4.3 upgrade)
If you're so inclined, you can automate tracking of -STABLE or
-CURRENT via cron and cvsup, to some degree. Updating your source
and making world is easy enough and even automated kernel rebuilds
aren't too risky (although you might run into problems now and then
when major things change, like the wd drivers and CAM SCSI system,
but such doesn't happen too often).
The part that's difficult to automate well is updating /etc sanely.
Mergemaster works great, but it's an interactive tool mostly.
FreeBSD is pretty good about keeping local changes out of the
default files (ala /etc/rc.conf vs /etc/defaults/rc.conf) and it's
getting better all the time, but it's not perfect (/etc/inetd.conf,
etc).
But you can do it and it's not too hard, but it's not quite as
simple as just "cd /usr/src && make update world".
--
-Zenin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) From The Blue Camel we learn:
BSD: A psychoactive drug, popular in the 80s, probably developed at UC
Berkeley or thereabouts. Similar in many ways to the prescription-only
medication called "System V", but infinitely more useful. (Or, at least,
more fun.) The full chemical name is "Berkeley Standard Distribution".
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From: nordi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: restric telnet access.
Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 13:19:07 +0200
green wrote:
> I'm about to go live with a linux computer but I need to stop root logins
> and users accessing su through Telnet any suggestions?
root logins via telnet are forbidden by default on every distro I've seen.
If you want to stop users from accessing the su program, use the group
"wheel". AFAIK it is used to controll access to the su/sudo program. Then
do a "chown root.wheel /bin/su" and a "chmod 750 /bin/su" and only root and
members of the wheel group can run su anymore.
Hint: disable telnet, it shouldn't be used except for secure environments
or if you think that you are really secure. Even access as a normal user
can be used to gain root.
nordi
--
Linux - Less bugs for less bucks!
Visit http://private.addcom.de/nordi
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From: Joan Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.windows98,alt.windows-me
Subject: Re: Request for research
Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 11:36:57 GMT
OK by Me.
Joan
John the research guy wrote:
> Hi,
> I am working on a study of technical newsgroups. I am interested in
> creating a questionnaire that would be available online and would
> attempt to assess your confidence level in solutions to problems that
> you've posted as well as overall newsgroup usability and overall
> newsgroup satisfaction.
> Initially, I am attempting to find out how well received a link to an
> online registration site to participate in an online survey would be
> received by newsgroup users. The participant would remain anonymous
> and would NOT be added to any marketing lists of any sort. The
> participant would simply be asked to opt-in to receive ONE email
> invitation to the online questionnaire. The participant would not
> receive any future correspondence!!
> I am very interested in conducting a study of this type but may not
> continue if the idea is not welcomed by the newsgroups.
> Please let me know if you are for or against this research effort.
> I apologize if you feel I have wasted your time.
> Thanks,
> John
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From: Markku Kolkka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to deal with 1024 cylinder limitation when installing rh7.1?
Date: 03 Jun 2001 14:39:12 +0300
"ThanhVu Nguyen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> But this is not the case now since I can't install RH, it won't let me
> continue further (installing lilo and making floppy are later options). I
> get stuck at the disk druid's partition edit.
You _must_ use fdisk to partition the disk if you want to use
lba32. See the RELEASE-NOTES on the install CD.
> It seems like my only choice
> is use fdisk, but I am not sure if it would work, and how to use it.
See:
http://www.redhat.com/support/manuals/RHL-7-Manual/ref-guide/s1-guimode-fdisk.html
--
Markku Kolkka
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Markku Kolkka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: i386, i586, i686?
Date: 03 Jun 2001 14:45:00 +0300
"Tom Edelbrok" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I have a Pentium II-233 running Redhat 6.0 with kernel 2.2.5-15.
>
> I am upgrading the kernel to 2.2.14-5.0. Should I use the i386, i586, or
> i686 rpm?
i686 is the right one for Pentium II.
--
Markku Kolkka
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Markku Kolkka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mozilla a memory hog
Date: 03 Jun 2001 14:43:13 +0300
Timur Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> When I run the mozilla browser, it creates five threads, each using about
> 20 megs of memory. The total memory usage is therefore 100 megs
No, threads share the same memory space so the total usage is 20 MB.
--
Markku Kolkka
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From: Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: gcc version in RH 7.0, 7.1 and Mandrake 8.0
Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 07:05:48 -0500
Timur Aydin wrote:
> Dave Uhring wrote:
>>
>> Install the compat.XXXX rpms and get kgcc. mv /usr/bin/gcc
>> /usr/bin/gcc-2.96, ln -s /usr/bin/kgcc /usr/bin/gcc.
>>
>> Don't try to replace gcc-2.96 with gcc-2.95.3, you'll regret it.
>>
>>
>
> The compat.xxx in the RedHat CD's is the egcs 1.1.2 version of the
> compiler, which is fairly old (at least for C++ development).
>
> So either I have to use a fairly old version of gcc, or a development
> snapshot. What was RedHat and Mandrake thinking ?
>
> Timur.
>
At some point in time, new versions of gcc have to be used by a large
number of people in order to find the few remaining bugs. gcc-2.96 is
pretty solid, but its required context varies slightly from egcs-1.1.2.
The kernel code is written to the egcs-1.1.2 standard, and if you download
a kernel tarball from kernel.org, your kernel build will not work properly
using gcc-2.96.
Forgetting that the kernel requires egcs, I built linux-2.4.4 on a
RedHat-7.1 system. Then I built the alsa-drivers. Result was that sound
would not work even though the kernel booted and seemed to work well
otherwise. Then I remembered that I had not yet done the kernel naming
switch that I mentioned above. Performed the switch, rebuilt kernel and
alsa-drivers and my sound began working.
If you are not building kernels with gcc-2.96, then don't make the switch I
recommended. But bear in mind that kgcc is _required_ to build kernels.
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From: Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: help a newbie?
Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 07:10:25 -0500
news1.sympatico.ca wrote:
> What does /var/log/XFree86.log say ?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Newbie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> I'm not stupid but... after a successful RedHat 7.0 install, my
>> resolution comes up at 640x480... I read that CTRL-ALT-+/- changes the
>> monitor resolution,
>> but there's no response when I try that... the install recognized my
>> video adapter and my monitor OK and my /etc/XF86Config looks fine...
>>
>> What am I missing here?
>>
>> Thanks for any help/pointers!
>>
>> Newbie
>>
>
>
>
Try this:
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "ATI Mach64" <-- Change for your adapter
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 24 <-- Change for your preference
Subsection "Display"
Depth 24 <-- Here, too
Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x640" "640x480"
EndSubsection
EndSection
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From: Raphael Pigulla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.suse
Subject: SuSE on GA-5AX
Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 14:12:00 +0200
Hi,
I was trying to install SuSE Linux 7.1 on my old PC (K6-2/450) but en-
countered several problems. I know that there are both problems with
ALi's IDE-Controller used on the 5AX and using more than 32MB of RAM
on that Gigabyte board. Additionally, I heard that there are some buggy
K6-2 CPUs out there.
I already found a couple pages dealing with some of those issues but
couldn't really find anything that could actually help me solve the
problem.
Did anyone encounter the same problems and could give me some hints?
TIA
raph
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From: Jim Wallis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.m68k
Subject: Re: "invalid option" error while building gcc as a cross-compiler
Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 13:18:09 +0100
Scott Alfter wrote:
> The following environment variables are set:
>
> host i586-pc-linux-gnu
> target m68k-mac-linux-gnu
> prefix /usr/local/gcc-m68k
> i /usr/local/gcc-m68k/bin
> CFLAGS -O2 -march=i586 -fomit-frame-pointer
>
> Originally, CFLAGS included -march=k6 instead of -march=i586, as I usually
> optimize binaries for the AMD processors that I run. Leaving out -march=___
> altogether lets the compile process go further, but eventually it conks out
> again:
Sounds like -march should refer to the destination system, i.e. m68k,
rather than the build system.
I had some success with cross-compiling a while ago but I can't remember
what source I used or what modifications I had to do. Try searching the
ng archives for a post by Ross Vumbaca about cross-compiling, I'm sure
it's where I got most of my tips from!
JIM
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From: "Sebastian Volland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: apache+php+mysql
Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 14:19:18 +0200
Hi,
I've installed redhat version 7.1 with preconfigured Apache+php
which is working fine.
Now I downloaded and installed mysql because I want to use it with php, but
I saw that php is compiled with the flag --without-mysql.
How can I activate mysql-functionality without recompiling all that?
If I have to recompile, whats the best way to do it?
Thanks!
Sebastian Volland
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From: "Ioan Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Student having a problem booting Linux Red Hat 7.0 Please Help
Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 13:26:37 +0100
Hello group, I'm having a problem booting Linux, or more correctly one of
the programs (or are they called services) that loads during boot-up is
causing the system to stop responding.
My question is how would I prevent this program from executing at boot-up
i.e. is there a configuration file contaning entries that specify the
programs (or services) that run at boot up, I am running Red Hat 7.0.
Please excuse any incorect terminology contained within this post, this is
the first time I have used Linux.
If posible, please could you send a copy of your replies to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (REMOVE NOSPAM)
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to deal with 1024 cylinder limitation when installing rh7.1?
Date: 3 Jun 2001 13:05:16 GMT
"ThanhVu Nguyen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Sat, 2 Jun 2001 23:41:37 -0400, wrote :
"N> I understand that I don't have to install lilo, I used to boot to linux from
"N> floppy and make a new /etc/lilo.conf to fit my needs (to dual boot with
"N> windows)
"N>
"N> But this is not the case now since I can't install RH, it won't let me
"N> continue further (installing lilo and making floppy are later options). I
"N> get stuck at the disk druid's partition edit. It seems like my only choice
"N> is use fdisk, but I am not sure if it would work, and how to use it.
OK, I did not understand your question.
Fdisk will work fine and is easy enough to use. Fdisk will only warn
you about the 1024 cyinder limit but should not impede you otherwise.
Fdisk is a non-GUI program -- it uses a 'glass tty' interface, its own
simple CLI. Type m for a list of commands:
sauron.deepsoft.com% sudo fdisk
Using /dev/sda as default device!
Command (m for help): m
Command action
a toggle a bootable flag
b edit bsd disklabel
c toggle the dos compatibility flag
d delete a partition
l list known partition types
m print this menu
n add a new partition
o create a new empty DOS partition table
p print the partition table
q quit without saving changes
t change a partition's system id
u change display/entry units
v verify the partition table
w write table to disk and exit
x extra functionality (experts only)
Command (m for help): q
Mostly you will be using the 'n' (new partition) command, the 't'
command (toggle partition type) to make the swap partition, the 'p'
command (to print a partition list) and finally the 'w' command to save
the partition table.
"N>
"N>
"N> > You don't *have* to even install lilo, if you can't install a version no
"N> > free of the '1024 cylinder' curse. You can just make a boot floppy. A
"N> > boot floppy will *always* work, no matter where /boot is. Once things
"N> > are installed from CD, you can upgrade lilo.
"N> >
"N> > Actually, I understand that the lilo that comes with rh7.1 is free of
"N> > the '1024 cylinder' curse (assuming you have a 'modern' BIOS), but the
"N> > install script is ignorant of the 'lba32' option. What you do in this
"N> > case is install lilo (but it won't work) *AND* make a boot floppy. Once
"N> > the install completes, don't even try to boot directly from the HD -- boot
"N> > with the floppy and fix /etc/lilo.conf (put in the lba32 option). Then
"N> > re-run lilo to install a 'fixed' boot loader.
"N>
"N>
"N>
"N>
--
\/
Robert Heller ||InterNet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://vis-www.cs.umass.edu/~heller || [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.deepsoft.com /\FidoNet: 1:321/153
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Student having a problem booting Linux Red Hat 7.0 Please Help
Date: 3 Jun 2001 13:17:54 GMT
"Ioan Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Sun, 3 Jun 2001 13:26:37 +0100, wrote :
"J> Hello group, I'm having a problem booting Linux, or more correctly one of
"J> the programs (or are they called services) that loads during boot-up is
"J> causing the system to stop responding.
"J>
"J> My question is how would I prevent this program from executing at boot-up
"J> i.e. is there a configuration file contaning entries that specify the
"J> programs (or services) that run at boot up, I am running Red Hat 7.0.
"J>
"J> Please excuse any incorect terminology contained within this post, this is
"J> the first time I have used Linux.
"J>
"J> If posible, please could you send a copy of your replies to:
"J> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (REMOVE NOSPAM)
You need to boot into 'single user' mode:
at the Lilo boot prompt:
LILO boot:
type:
linux single
This won't start *any* multi-user mode daemons (services).
Do you know *which* service is cause trouble? What is initdefault in
/etc/inittab set to? 3 or 5? All of the services are started by scripts
in /etc/rc.d/init.d, which aree symlinked to from /etc/rc.d/rc?.d/
(/etc/rc.d/rc3.d/ and /etc/rc.d/rc5.d/ are the ones you need look at).
If the problem is the X11 login and initdefault is set to 5, change
initdefault in /etc/inittab to 3, otherwise, you'll need to either fix
the problem daemon's configuration or remove the problem Sxx* file in
/etc/rc.d/rc?.d/ -- DON'T mess with the file in /etc/rc.d/init.d --
just delete the symlink file in /etc/rc.d/rc?.d/ -- the symlink can be
re-created later once the problem has been fixed.
"J>
"J>
"J>
--
\/
Robert Heller ||InterNet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://vis-www.cs.umass.edu/~heller || [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.deepsoft.com /\FidoNet: 1:321/153
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