Linux-Misc Digest #15, Volume #21 Mon, 12 Jul 99 16:13:16 EDT
Contents:
Re: open systems?!? Re: Why does Apple not cooperate with Be? ("Brent P. Newhall")
library mess (David Harvill)
Mouse Pointer freaking out under X ("Fred Cabanes")
Re: HELP: Kernel panic - Unable to mount root fs (Mark Tranchant)
Re: HELP, someone, please. :) ("Noah Roberts (jik-)")
Re: RH6 Local Networking with Win95 Clients (Teng-Yan Loke)
Re: Can you hurt Linux as a user? ("Noah Roberts (jik-)")
Re: dumb question ("Noah Roberts (jik-)")
Re: open systems?!? Re: Why does Apple not cooperate with Be? (Odd H. Sandvik)
Re: tar always thinks it is 1969 (Julian Thompson)
Re: Help on boot disk (Richard Bumby)
Re: Good 400mhz portable ("root")
GPL WAS: Re: Amiga announces Linux kernel is new Amiga kernal - Opinions? (Dave)
Re: UML software for Linux? (Tobias Anderberg)
Web Browser for RedHat Linux V6.0 for Alpha (Mark Seager)
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From: "Brent P. Newhall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.be.misc,comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: open systems?!? Re: Why does Apple not cooperate with Be?
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 14:13:51 -0400
On 10 Jul 1999, Noah Roberts (jik-) wrote:
[snip: Steve Jobs]
> If he is ANYTHING like that movie portraied him to be the he is a
> total asshole. That might explain a little :P
And if he's not, he can sue.
He hasn't yet.
Though this is getting quite off-topic for...well...*all* of these
newsgroups.
Brent P. Newhall
Editor of Papyrus, www.papyrus-fiction.com
Official comp.sys.be.help FAQ maintainer, www.other-space.com/be/faq.txt
Personal homepage: www.other-space.com/brent/
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From: David Harvill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: library mess
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 14:03:44 -0400
System is RH5.2. I removed X, downloaded source from xfree86.org and
recompiled. Some programs complained of library errors (emacs, netscape).
Running ldconfig took care of these. compiled AfterStep from source.
AfterStep complains of library errors (libXpm.so.4, same one that at least
one of the above [emacs??] complained on). libXpm.so.4 /is/ in one of the
directories specified in /etc/ld.so.conf . If I set the LD_LIBRARY_PATH,
AfterStep will run, but other apps (netscape, ssh) will not. Unsetting
LD_LIBRARY_PATH and starting X with LessTif will allow these apps to run.
Can anyone point me in a direction 1)why AfterStep isn't playing nice.
2)how I can get it to play nice. where 'play nice'=don't have to muck
around with library settings on a program-by-program basis. All of these
used to 'play together' just fine until I removed X.
-dave
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.cs.umb.edu/~dlh
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From: "Fred Cabanes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mouse Pointer freaking out under X
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 15:16:03 -0400
Hi All:
I've just installed Mandrake Linux on my PC. Everything went smoothly
except for a minor but annoying hitch in my X setup. X Windows runs
displays and runs properly but the mouse pointer on the screen is constantly
flickering. The mouse itself and buttons work fine but the screen pointer
is really starting to piss me off. I've tried switching the pointer icon
but this didn't help.
I know this is a newbie question but any help would be appreciated.
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From: Mark Tranchant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: HELP: Kernel panic - Unable to mount root fs
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 17:28:12 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jim Kimball wrote:
>
> I installed SuSE Linux 6.1 a couple weeks ago and have been enjoying it
> quite a bit. Unfortunately, when I originally partitioned my hard disk, I
> did not partition the whole 10 Meg. I created a couple partitions using
> about half of the disk.
>
> I attempted to use SuSE yast to set up the rest of the disk as one big
> partition today and appear to have seriously messed things up.
>
> When I first tried to create the new partition, I was in XWindows
"X" or "X Window System", not XWindows.
> I logged out of X to try again. From the console as root, yast
> gave me an error message (don't remember the exact text - something about
> invalid argument from mke2fs (?)).
When doing something as critical as this, you *must* take notice of all
errors, and find out what they mean before proceeding.
>
> Not really sure where to go from here, I attempted to reboot. This has
> turned out to be a mistake as the boot process gives me a message:
>
> hdb: INVALID GEOMETRY: 0 PHYSICAL HEADS?
hdb? Your secondary drive on the first IDE channel?
There's some strange things going on here. What drives do you have?
Mark.
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Subject: Re: HELP, someone, please. :)
From: "Noah Roberts (jik-)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 09 Jul 1999 07:07:20 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rizwan Syed) writes:
> Hello,
> I need help on a bunch of different things, some really
> important, some a little less. :)
>
> 1) What file contains the POP3 server. I need to start it so that
> we can access our email through a Windows based POP3 client.
popd I would think. some distros have one running already, try to
telnet into port 110 of the server and see if one is already running.
>
> 2) I have a domaine foo.com. I also have a server, me.foo.com
> I want people to be able to send me an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> as well as [EMAIL PROTECTED] and have both of them get the emails
> to the server me.foo.com. What do I need to do? I think I need
> to have my ISP do something to the DNS entry, but he says he's
> done everything, but the email does not work. It is currently
> working for @me.foo.com. But the emails sent to @foo.com gets
> a relaying error. Anyone know what's up?
I think the foo.com domain needs to set up wildcard aliasing or something.
>
> 3) Anyone know an ftp site where I could get SSH for linux?
3 general rules to finding linux software.
1) check your CD....many distros come with ssh.
2) check the standard sites...www.freshmeat.net, www.linux.org/apps/lsm.html
and sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux (download 00-Linux.gz and grep it)
3) try a search engine, my favorite is www.yahoo.com
>
> Please let me know about any of these things that you can help with.
>
> Thanks
> Rizwan
> --
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> Rizwan Syed
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Teng-Yan Loke)
Subject: Re: RH6 Local Networking with Win95 Clients
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 19:18:44 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Regarding my own problems, I have fixed them more or less today.
Thanks to those who offered help.
The first thing I did was to add in the clients' IP and hostnames into
the /etc/hosts file. This solved the long waits for ftp and telnet
into the server. I didn't have to edit the c:\windows\hosts.sam files
on the clients, but I'm not sure if adding the server as a DNS in the
Network TCP/IP settings of the clients help as well.
I found out that I was supposed to choose whether to send passwords
from the Win95 clients encrypted or not. I decided to run the "cat
mksmbpasswd.sh | /etc/passwd > /etc/smbpasswd" command, but failed to
read the documentation that says that the passwords in the smbpasswd
file default to just bunches of Xs. Of course, this was solved by
running the "smbpasswd `username`" command for each of the clients.
>From this point onwards, the clients were able to login to the
workgroup and see each other and the server in the "Network
Neighbourhood" window. However, the major problem of the day cropped
up. Big file transfers from a client to the server (>1MB) always
resulted in frequent non-periodic hangs of the copy dialog window. It
seemed like the delays were always either 7 or 13 seconds, and then
the copying resumed. The worst part is that the client will eventually
timeout once more and a dialog box will appear saying that it has
failed to copy to the destination. The server will hand completely and
display a message:
eth0: transmit timeout, status 0d 0000 media 0
eth0: Tx queue start entry 6973 dirty entry 6973
and require a cold boot. I also noticed that collisions were
relatively high, about 25% of the bytes transferred. Is this rate
unusual?
The cards that my machines use is the Edimax board with the Realtek
8139 chip. AFAIK, the cards seems to be connected in 100Mbps mode. I
found out that RH6 came with version 1.04 of the Realtek driver
written by Donald Becker. After much hair-pulling and hardware fault
isolation (NICs, 2 RH6/SMB machines, different clients), I realized
that using 1.07 of the driver eliminated those server hangs. Becker
had fixed up a bug which caused such hangs. However, this time, the
clients started to display the blue screen and say that something was
wrong with their own Realtek driver (dated 5-13-1998). Installing a
newer driver (Aug 98) didn't help much, but at least the server never
hanged.
I looked into the Linux driver code and modified some settings:
static int max_interrupt_work = 50; // increased from 20
#define TX_BUF_SIZE 1600 // increased from 1536
#define TX_FIFO_THRESH 1024 // increased from 256
#define RX_FIFO_THRESH 6
#define RX_DMA_BURST 6
#define TX_DMA_BURST 6 // all three increased from 4
Is there anything I can do with this?
#define TX_TIMEOUT (4*HZ)
The above changes prevented the clients from getting those GPFs, but
there was still the occsional hang for 7 or 13 seconds.
The following are the changes I made to tweak the SMB server to
squeeze out a better transfer rate.
socket options = TCP_NODELAY
read size = 32768
read prediction = yes
Setting write raw = no lowered the transfer rate. Adding
IPTOS_LOWDELAY to socket options also made it worse.
The person who wrote Speed2.txt in the Samba documentation says that
removing MAXMTU and RWIN will help. Is this true?
The line: log file = /var/log/samba/log.%m doesn't seem to write such
log files. Any help?
So my worse rate was 4Mbps, and the best so far is 6Mbps. Compare this
to a Win95 to Win95 client transfer rate of 9Mbps for the same data.
How do you folks find these rates?
Also, there is one error that exists in log.nmb which I don't
understand. Can anyone help me with this? My guess is that this
happens when e.g. all clients are shut down.
[1999/07/13 01:11:45, 0]
nmbd/nmbd_incomingdgrams.c:process_get_backup_list_request(652)
process_get_backup_list_request: Cannot find workgroup ANIMAL on
subnet UNICAST_SUBNET.
Lastly, can anyone help me with the following error in log.smb please?
poo is one of the Win95 clients. Could it be that I must enable the
netlogon share in the example in smb.conf?
[1999/07/12 23:42:48, 0] smbd/service.c:make_connection(208)
poo (10.0.0.13) couldn't find service netlogon
Thanks for reading this. Hope this can help others with similar
problems.
----
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Tel +65-96907323 | Fax +65-5526826 | Bumble Bee Labs welcome.to/bbl
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Subject: Re: Can you hurt Linux as a user?
From: "Noah Roberts (jik-)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 09 Jul 1999 16:08:01 -0700
Andrew Arbon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hello,
>
> If you are logged on as a normal user, and provided you haven't altered
> any of the standard options; is it possible to damage the system
> deliberately/accidentally?
Shutting the system off while it boots did a nice job on me. My mom
was going to use the computer and didn't tell me...it "Just started
spitting a bunch of characters" so she shut it off :P Totally melted
the filesystem.
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Subject: Re: dumb question
From: "Noah Roberts (jik-)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 09 Jul 1999 16:18:56 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Mitchell) writes:
> I compiled a "hello, world" app w/ gcc in the /root directory (while logged in
> as root) - gcc test.c, where test.c had this in it:
>
> #include <stdio.h>
>
> int main()
> {
> fprint("hello");
> return 0;
> }
>
> the compile goes fine,
Thats wierd, it shouldn't have.
>but when I run a.out by typing exec /root/a.out, I
> immediately get a login prompt. ls says I have execute permission, but I set
> it with chmod just to make sure. It still does the same thing. Someone please
> help me pull my head out of my ass.
Its probably got something to do with the FILE* arguement being a string.
man fprintf....no surgery required :P
>
> Thanks,
>
> JPM
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Odd H. Sandvik)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.be.misc,comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: open systems?!? Re: Why does Apple not cooperate with Be?
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 20:34:19 +0200
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jerome Jahnke
says...
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Odd H. Sandvik) wrote:
> > Exactly. Apple couldn't compete, so they pulled the
> > plug rather than do the hard thing, get their hardware
> > up to snuff.
>
> Huh... The clones were killing Apple, the market wasn't expanding (i.e.
> new people weren't buying the cheaper clones) instead they were cutting
> into Apple's profits. The problem was price, not quality.
The fact that Apple's old customers preferred the clones
ought to tell you something. Apple's machines were not exactly
cutting-edge at the time, and the cloners managed to improve
Apple's dimwit designs and sell for less money. Ofcourse people
would prefer the clones. And Apple couldn't compete. So instead
of improving their lame hardware, they pulled the plug on cloning.
Only recently has Apple managed to produce machines that
aren't instantly laughable.
> > Sure, but it was an effect of Apple refusing to
> > support Be, so I blame Apple. Had Apple given Be
> > the technical documentation they wanted, I'm sure
> > BeOS PPC wouldn't be in jeopardy now.
>
> If the BeOS guys had any brains they would have figured out what to do by
> now. All the info is out there, they are too lazy to go get it. And you
> are stupid enough to fall for the old "It was Apples Fault" routine.
Come on. It's a political decision. If Be wanted to they could do it.
They do not want to because of Apple's hostility, and even mentions
possible lawsuits as an excuse.
--
Odd H. Sandvik
Email: hensandv(AT)online.no ( note: (AT) = @ )
*Adress in "From:" field is for the SPAM bots.*
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From: Julian Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: tar always thinks it is 1969
Date: 12 Jul 1999 19:56:13 +0100
Frederick W. Reimer, Sr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
...
: I wan kinda wondering about the date/time you show for the initial output. I
: get a date/time one second before you. I also noticed that the date was only on
: the create and the verify step has the correct date. I supposed this is a
: harmless bug in tar, but with no lasting effect.
Hi Fred,
I think that (time_t)0 is being displayed differently due to our different
timezones. Here are the results of various TZ values on my system:
miel:/tmp$ echo $TZ
GMT0BST
miel:/tmp$ tar --label="test" -cvvf test.tar /etc/issue
V--------- 0/0 0 1970-01-01 00:00 test--Volume Header--
tar: Removing leading `/' from absolute path names in the archive
-rw-r--r-- root/root 27 1999-07-12 19:22 etc/issue
miel:/tmp$ TZ=GMT tar --label="test" -cvvf test.tar /etc/issue
V--------- 0/0 0 1970-01-01 00:00 test--Volume Header--
tar: Removing leading `/' from absolute path names in the archive
-rw-r--r-- root/root 27 1999-07-12 18:22 etc/issue
miel:/tmp$ TZ=GMT+1 tar --label="test" -cvvf test.tar /etc/issue
V--------- 0/0 0 1969-12-31 23:00 test--Volume Header--
tar: Removing leading `/' from absolute path names in the archive
-rw-r--r-- root/root 27 1999-07-12 17:22 etc/issue
miel:/tmp$ TZ=GMT+2 tar --label="test" -cvvf test.tar /etc/issue
V--------- 0/0 0 1969-12-31 22:00 test--Volume Header--
tar: Removing leading `/' from absolute path names in the archive
-rw-r--r-- root/root 27 1999-07-12 16:22 etc/issue
miel:/tmp$ TZ=GMT-1 tar --label="test" -cvvf test.tar /etc/issue
V--------- 0/0 0 1970-01-01 01:00 test--Volume Header--
tar: Removing leading `/' from absolute path names in the archive
-rw-r--r-- root/root 27 1999-07-12 19:22 etc/issue
I hope this helps again :-)
: Thanks,
: Fred
Regards,
Julian
--
Julian Thompson ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Bumby)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Help on boot disk
Date: 12 Jul 1999 15:38:47 -0400
William Lamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>...
>I want to try LINUX on a system that already has Win-98 & DOS 6.22
>installed. I am using Boot Manager. The system has 2 hard drives.
>Windows boots from the first HD and DOS from the second. From what I
>went through earlier, Windows has a "feature" that allows it to see
>partitions that are not FAT16 or FAT32 formatted. This would throw the
>current disk mapping completely out the window (NO pun intended) if LILO
>was installed on a hard drive. I can combine and add new partitions to
>keep the currently installed programs "happy".
>Can LILO be installed in the same partition as DOS 6.22? (Read a
>reference to it being installed in an NT partition.)
>Is it possible to ignore the below 1024 barrier if Boot Manager calls
>LILO with LILO only set to load LINUX?
>Is it possible to install it only on a floppy?
>...
Take it slowly.
First, how much free space do you have, and where is it? You can
easily use 1G or more if you let your distribution select what it
wants to install. It can be divided among several partitions and
doesn't need a primary partition. If you have Partition Magic, you
can probably make space for it.
If you still have OS/2, let its fdisk make the space for your
partitions so that you can add the boot partition to the Boot Manager
menu. Partition Magic is also good for this job. You need the linux
fdisk to finish the job so that linux can work with the partition, but
if you let it create the partition, Boot Manager may get confused.
LILO does a good job as a secondary boot loader. It can be installed
on the boot track of a logical partition and Boot Manager will find
it.
You need to respect the 1024 barrier. Since your boot partition
doesn't need to be large, this shouldn't be a problem.
Booting from a floppy is possible, but you have Boot Manager, so you
don't need to worry about that. You should prepare a boot disk to
deal with emergencies, but you really want linux on your Boot Manager
menu.
I don't use Win98, so I can't comment on its ability to recognize all
partitions and use them to confuse drive letters. Traditionally, this
was not the case. DOS and Win3.1 have always ignored my HPFS
partitions. Although I said earlier that you don't need to use a
primary partition, you may be able to use the feature that only one
primary partition on each disk is allowed to be active to hide
partitions from Win98.
--
R. T. Bumby ** Rutgers Math || Amer. Math. Monthly Problems Editor 1992--1996
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ||
Telephone: [USA] 732-445-0277 (full-time message line) FAX 732-445-5530
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From: "root" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Good 400mhz portable
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 15:05:24 -0400
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Stay away from any with ESS Maestro's too.
David J. Topper wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Hey folks,
>
>I have yet to find a good 400mhz laptop that has a Crystal semiconductor
>chip (which is needed for audio support). Most have Neomagic, which is
>not supported.
>
>Anyone out there have some new information? I'm getting desperate for a
>laptop.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Dave Topper
>--
>Technical Director, Virginia Center for Computer Music
>Programmer / Analyst, Dean's Office (School of A&S)
>http://www.people.virginia.edu/~djt7p
>(804) 924-6887
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From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: GPL WAS: Re: Amiga announces Linux kernel is new Amiga kernal - Opinions?
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 19:33:53 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: Today it was announced that the Linux kernal will be used in the new Amigas.
: Any opinions on this development?
If AmigaInc is using the Linux kernel. Does that mean there modified kernel
will also be under the GPL?
If so, what would they be selling? A new windows manager or support like
RedHat?
--
Dave.-- The email address above does work :)
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a rigged
demo. -Fortune of the Day.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tobias Anderberg)
Subject: Re: UML software for Linux?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 20:12:26 +0200
>I am looking for a UML software (like Rational Rose) which would run on
>Linux, would be able to generate C++ and reverse-engineer C++.
Check out ARGO: www.ics.uci.edu/pub/arch/uml/
Havn't tried it myself yet, so I don't know much about it.
--
tobias
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From: Mark Seager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Web Browser for RedHat Linux V6.0 for Alpha
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 12:42:36 -0700
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Does anyone know of a web browser that works on the Compaq Alpha
platform with RedHat Linux V6.0? Apparently, Netscape is not available
and I can't seem to find a version of Mozilla that work either. Any
suggestions? I have looked in the usual places (e.g., digital.com and
www.alphalinux.org). Thanx for the help!
Regards,
++Mark
--
============================================================================
Mark K. Seager SCCD ADH |
B-800-265-8691 LLNL | Happiness is not a station you
arrive
V-925-423-3141 POBOX 808,L-60 | at, but a manner of traveling.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 7000 East Ave. | -Margaret Lee Runbeck
F-925-423-8715 Livermore, CA 94550|
============================================================================
"What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the will to find out,
which is the exact opposite." ---Bertrand Russell
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<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
<html>
Does anyone know of a web browser that works on the Compaq Alpha platform
with RedHat Linux V6.0? Apparently, Netscape is not available and
I can't seem to find a version of Mozilla that work either. Any
suggestions?
I have looked in the usual places (e.g., digital.com and www.alphalinux.org).
Thanx for the help!
<br> Regards,
<br> ++Mark
<p>--
<br><tt>============================================================================</tt>
<br><tt>Mark K. Seager SCCD
ADH
|</tt>
<br><tt>B-800-265-8691
LLNL
| Happiness is not a station you arrive</tt>
<br><tt>V-925-423-3141 POBOX 808,L-60 | at,
but a manner of traveling.</tt>
<br><tt>[EMAIL PROTECTED] 7000 East Ave. | -Margaret
Lee Runbeck</tt>
<br><tt>F-925-423-8715 Livermore, CA 94550|</tt>
<br><tt>============================================================================</tt>
<br><tt>"What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the will to find
out,</tt>
<br><tt>which is the exact opposite." ---Bertrand Russell</tt>
<br> </html>
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