Linux-Misc Digest #22, Volume #19 Sun, 14 Feb 99 12:13:13 EST
Contents:
Minicom: Slow Behavior ("Guillermo Maduro-Vazquez")
Re: Mouse works in XF86 Setup but not in X Windows (Craig M Lambert)
Re: Criminally Insane Programmers Are Attracted To Open Source Code (David O'Bedlam)
Re: Bunch of pretentious Wankers (Bitbucket)
2.2.1 and ISDN (Morten Ranheim)
Re: Quantum Incompatible? (steve mcadams)
Re: FreeBSD vs RedHat (pato)
Re: Data for NOT using MS-Exchange. [second line of defence] (Andrzej Filip)
Re: Redhat 5.2 hangs on shutdown. (Oliver Immich)
kernel compilation problem (pato)
Feasible LILO config? (Klaus Bernpaintner)
Re: [Q] Any experiences with SuSE 6.0 ???? (Albert Ulmer)
Re: Errors compiling kermit 6.0.192 on Linux 2.2.1 (Frank da Cruz)
Re: Netscape 4.8/Redhat 5.2 just hangs very often ("NiElS")
Re: Bunch of pretentious Wankers (Chris Allen)
Re: Small version of Linux (Tom Fawcett)
Help compiling a driver ("Aaron Dershem")
Re: Criminally Insane Programmers Are Attracted To Open Source Code ("Dion Mohammed")
Re: How do I know which window manager I am using? (Gerald Willmann)
Re: Linux suxxxx ("Pierre A. von Kaenel")
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From: "Guillermo Maduro-Vazquez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Minicom: Slow Behavior
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 14:29:58 GMT
In my attempts to connect to my ISP via PPP, I am currently trying to use
minicom to see the appropriate send/receive entries. So far, I noticed it is
not "login:" but "Username:" ....
Minicom, however, is behaving strangely. It takes very long to complete the
modem's initialization string (it sort of pauses-goes-pauses-goes..., with
the "pauses" lasting 10-15 seconds). The behavior can be observed as soon as
minicom is executed and as the init string runs (or rather, strolls!); even
when I type, the delays hold up the screen output.
Surprisingly, I am still able to dial in, but the pauses are too long and I
am unable to input my username & password. Even scripting my user info does
not work; apparently, the slow behavior (or its underlying cause) cause the
ISP to return a " % " right after "Username:", with a final "Timed out"
message. My hardware seems to be appropriate (Pentium 133MHz, 32MB RAM, 33.6
non-Winmodem). The only hint from other users with the same issue is that
the minicom installation might not be 100% correct (a missing or misplaced
file is being looked up by minicom, causing the slow client interaction).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Craig M Lambert)
Subject: Re: Mouse works in XF86 Setup but not in X Windows
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 13:15:16 GMT
I've solved the problem. All I needed to do was change the mouse from
2 buttons to 3 buttons using the switch underneath the mouse.
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From: David O'Bedlam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Criminally Insane Programmers Are Attracted To Open Source Code
Date: 14 Feb 1999 08:32:58 GMT
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>>Sorry, the idea of Bill Gates having sex just does not compute.
> then how did he become a father?
A very very bad GPF. While he was asleep.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bitbucket)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Bunch of pretentious Wankers
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 14:31:29 GMT
On Sun, 14 Feb 1999 09:08:57 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Need I remind everyone that there are currently 115 people in the USA that
>are serving prison time for doing exactly what Bill Clinton did. Lying in a
>civil case regarding sex.
Pure BS. Do you have the numbers to back this up? All 115 were jailed
due to lying in a civil case about sex? Let's see the cases.
> I am afraid that our own president has set a very
>bad example. After all he is the commander in chief. Also may I remind you
>that this very year 3 US servicemen and women lost their jobs and were
>courtmarshalled for doing this same thing.
Yes, and what "party" supports these draconian sanctions? Do you
believe they should have had their lives ruined over sex?
> Clinton is their boss. And he's
>above the same punishment. It's an American travisty and a pathetic display
>that Democrates dispite addmiting that what he did was undefenseable,
>Defended him. Shows just how "above" the left seems to think they are while
>accusing the right of being so. Just my .02 Keith
You miss the point entirely. Sexual misconduct is by virtue, an
extremely common human...frailty. The constitution provides for this
by setting a high standard for removal from office. If every president
was put under 50 million $$'s of sexual scrutiny, and were impeached
for being anything other than a saint the Senate floor would become
nothing more than an impeachment house. The man is only there for four
years and then it is up to us to decide whether we want him for
another four. Unless what he does while in office threatens the
national sanctity or security , it has no business going beyond the
house floor.
Do you even vote? I read a poll that a great majority of "mall
america" who share the belief that Clinton should have been impeached
did not. Not to mention they couldn't tell you what the difference
between the house and the senate are. This is what your buddies on the
"right" count on. A content and stupid america. That's why they don't
support education bills and college loans and grants. Keep them happy
and stupid and they'll always see our side of the story.
>
>
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> It was the 12 Feb 1999 19:35:17 GMT...
>> ..and [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > They destroyed what he put the most credence in. The way history will see
>> > him.
>> >
>> > He deserved it. He is a piece of shit.
>> >
>> > So are most Democrats.
>>
>> I increasingly feel like you, Sir, are a troll.
>>
>> mawa
>> --
>> So being a network guru qualifies you to 'judge' all OSes, and to
>> predict that Linux won't work because Netscape fails on your machine?
>> I don't think so.
>> -- Persona, on comp.os.linux.advocacy
>>
>
>-----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
>http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
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From: Morten Ranheim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 2.2.1 and ISDN
Date: 13 Feb 1999 15:31:21 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi
I got a Teles 16.3 non-pnp card which has always worked without any
problems. This is on a RH 5.2 system.
I've downloaded kernel 2.2.1 and all the correct packages I need to that
kernel. Everything compiles without any major problems. The card is
installed without any problems as well.
But when I run my logon script to my ISP I get one error. Here is a
little list from /var/log/messages:
Feb 13 15:12:03 3pio ipppd[332]: Found 1 devices: /dev/ippp0,
Feb 13 15:12:03 3pio ipppd[332]: ipppd i2.2.9 (isdn4linux version of
pppd by MH)
Feb 13 15:12:03 3pio ipppd[332]: init_unit: 0
Feb 13 15:12:03 3pio ipppd[332]: Connect[0]: /dev/ippp0, fd: 7
Feb 13 15:12:13 3pio kernel: ippp0: dialing 0 81010128...
Feb 13 15:12:15 3pio kernel: isdn_net: ippp0 connected
Feb 13 15:12:15 3pio ipppd[332]: Local number: 33328312, Remote number:
81010128, Type: outgoing
Feb 13 15:12:15 3pio ipppd[332]: PHASE_WAIT -> PHASE_ESTABLISHED,
ifunit: 0, linkunit: 0, fd: 7
Feb 13 15:12:19 3pio ipppd[332]: Remote message:
Feb 13 15:12:19 3pio ipppd[332]: bundle, he: 0 we: 0
Feb 13 15:12:19 3pio ipppd[332]: local IP address 193.217.242.128
Feb 13 15:12:19 3pio ipppd[332]: remote IP address 193.216.35.142
Feb 13 15:12:19 3pio ipppd[332]: ioctl(SIOCADDRT) device route: Network
is down
I really want to use kernel 2.2.1. My impression is that it is very fast
so please help me out here.
Thanks in advance.
--
Morten Ranheim
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve mcadams)
Subject: Re: Quantum Incompatible?
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 05:36:11 GMT
[Posted and mailed, snipped for brevity, quoted material marked with
">"]
On Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:18:32 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I am attepting to install Redhat 5.2. I have a 10.2gb Quantum Fireball
>harddrive that has 3 logical drives on it. The drives are 2gb a peice for a
>total of 6gb and the rest of the harddrive is open. When i try to install
>Redhat 5.2 workststion package, it tells me that there is not enough disk
>space for this type of installation. I have windows 98 as a secondary OS too.
>Does Linux not recognize my harddrive? Do i need to install additional
>partitions? Please reply ASAP Thanks, Baffled
Hi Baffled. I've installed Linux on Quantum Bigfoot 2.5g and Quantum
Fireball 4.3G IDE drives. Nary a problem related to these drives.
Your 10.2G drive may be different FAIK.
Suggest you try using Partition Magic or equivalent to move one of
your partitions out of the low-end of the drive and install Linux
there on a physical partition. It's happiest if booting from a
physical partition below cylinder 1024. -steve (relative newbie)
===================================================================
"If you wouldn't pay to do it, you shouldn't do it for pay!" -steve,
http://www.codetools.com/showcase
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From: pato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs RedHat
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 09:51:50 +0000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Feb 1999 07:58:04 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> sorry, this ISP (me) is all linux slakware for radius+tftp and RedHat
> for Vdomains+email+news+database I would be doing more with slakware
> but that machine is old and slow (pent classic 200 /w32 meg ram & 1
> gig hd) News is 200MMX 20gig 64M Ram and www+mail is 200MMX 3 gig 64M
> Ram
>
> >I am an ISP looking to compare FreeBSD vs RedHat. I have heard that FreeBSD
> >is faster at the networking level, but Redhat is much faster at the
> >application level like databases. Can anyone acknowledge and also tell me
> >your opinions of one vs the other. The main function of my servers is to host
> >virtual domains and related services like email, shopping cart, database etc.
> >
> >
> >Thanks !
> >
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >Jack :) Linux Admin
> >"Off the keyboard, thru the ethernet, over the hub, past
> > the router down the wire, ....nothing but NET!!"
> >
> >-----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
> >http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
Hi.
hum.. the place where I'm working we have for 300 to 400 people a dedicated
SERVER.
a HP NetServer... and by the way don't underestimate the email.
it's just a mail but when you send it to some 200 peaple with an image or some
attachement in it , it can become very heavy for just a 200 MMX
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From: Andrzej Filip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Data for NOT using MS-Exchange. [second line of defence]
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 15:56:56 +0100
George Farris wrote:
> I work for a local Collge that has about 1400 PC's and many
> students and staff. I've been advocating Linux for a while
> and we actually do have a few Linux servers and are going to
> offer an intro course in the Fall.
>
> The problem is, the powers that be are thinking of going to an
> Exchange server for email and I'm looking for all the ammunition
> I can get (besides cost) for NOT using Exchange. I want to write
> a formal response with an alternative solution using Linux. At
> the very least, I would like to see the mail system stay on the
> VAX where it currenty is.
>
> Any and all pointers, data, experience, URL's is greatly
> appriciated.
>
> Thanks in advance. I'll post results when I get them.
Try to sell linux/sendmail superiority another way.
Try to convince the decisions makers that moving
to exchange in one big step is not risk free
[quite impressive understatement :-) ].
On the long run it will be less risky to crete
linux/latest_sendmail email gateway which will
route incoming email to your domain to the
appropriate mail system and hide mailbox location
when email is send outside.
It will allow moving users from one system
to another one by one
[ e.g. top management first :-)]
You will buy user licenses for exchange
as needed in small increments.
In short:
You have two (or more) internal mail systems
(VAX+Exchange) which appear to the SMTP
speaking internet as one mail system.
sendmail: virtusertable + genericstable
virtusertable:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
genericstable:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
"Andrzej (Andrew) A. Filip" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Warsaw, Poland
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (backup)
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From: Oliver Immich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Redhat 5.2 hangs on shutdown.
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 15:52:00 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Twice now linux has hung the system while doing shutdown -r now from root.
>
> It hangs after the line "Shutting down gpm mouse services". There doesn't seem
> to be any trouble anywhere, but it should be a clean shutdown. Any ideas would
> be appreciated.
>
> John
No idea, but the same happens to my system.
Did you update your system? I did so from 5.1 which always has been
shutting down properly.
Oliver.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: pato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: kernel compilation problem
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 09:56:16 +0000
Greetings.
After compiling my new kernel 2.2.1 under redhat and running it I'm
getting this messages:
when booting:
can't locate module midi
can't locate module net-pf-4
can't locate module net-pf-5
when shuting down:
modprobe: can't localte module net-pf-4
modprobe: can't locate module net-pf-5
I don't know what the problem is.
help please
Yes I've done a make modules and make modules_install. I beleive the
problem is in my
kernel configuration
thanks alot for your help.
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From: Klaus Bernpaintner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Feasible LILO config?
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 09:59:17 -0500
I have an IDE drive and a SCSI drive. The IDE has NT on it, the SCSI has Linux.
Ever since Linux installation I have used a boot disk to boot Linux, but now I
want to boot directly from the hard drive.
Is this even possible with my current configuration?
I mean, if I keep the kernel and root on the SCSI, will LILO find them?
I don't want to touch the NT bootsector so I want to use the scheme outlined in
http://metalab.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/mini/Linux+NT-Loader.html
In my attempts so far, during boot time the system panics and says "VFS: Cannot
open root device 08:06"
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From: Albert Ulmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Q] Any experiences with SuSE 6.0 ????
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 15:04:45 GMT
> I'm a happy user of SuSE 5.3 and wonder if I should move to SuSE 6.0
> I've some concerns about stability of 6.0 and would appreciate to hear=
> about the experiences of those of tried the new beast...
I=B4m absolutely happy with the performance of version 6.0, its=20
stability is rock-solid.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank da Cruz)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions,comp.protocols.kermit.misc
Subject: Re: Errors compiling kermit 6.0.192 on Linux 2.2.1
Date: 13 Feb 1999 15:27:33 GMT
In article <36c541d0.0@calwebnnrp>, Ilya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Trying to compile kermit 6.0.192 on Linux 2.2.1.
: Getting the following error:
:
: make linux
: ....
:
: kutio.c: In function `ttsspd':
: ckutio.c:4679: `TIOCGSERIAL' undeclared (first use this function)
: ckutio.c:4679: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
: ckutio.c:4679: for each function it appears in.)
: ckutio.c:4685: `TIOCSSERIAL' undeclared (first use this function)
: ckutio.c: In function `ttgspd':
: ckutio.c:4833: `TIOCGSERIAL' undeclared (first use this function)
: ckutio.c: In function `in_chk':
: ckutio.c:6092: warning:
: passing arg 3 of `select' from incompatible pointer type
: ckutio.c:6092: warning:
: passing arg 4 of `select' from incompatible pointer type
: make[1]: *** [ckutio.o] Error 1
: make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/bin/kermit'
: make: *** [linux] Error 2
:
: Any ideas?
:
This is our most frequently asked question in recent weeks. Answer: Linux
has changed significantly since C-Kermit 6.0 was released. Of course we
have adapted, but this requires you try a newer version of C-Kermit:
http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck70.html
- Frank
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From: "NiElS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,alt.netscape,a2000.comp.software.os.linux
Subject: Re: Netscape 4.8/Redhat 5.2 just hangs very often
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 14:03:20 +0100
>Best and cleanest thing would be to recompile with my own libraries then.
>I think the source code was available, but maybe only to a selected group
>of people?
>I also dont know where to find it.
Only the Netscape code is available, not all the parts they "borrowed". In
any case, you might want to check out www.mozilla.org. They've build it to
be a usuable browser again, but nowhere near the official Netscape browser
yet.
NiElS
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From: Chris Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Bunch of pretentious Wankers
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 10:52:41 -0500
Bitbucket wrote:
>
> On Sun, 14 Feb 1999 09:08:57 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >Need I remind everyone that there are currently 115 people in the USA that
> >are serving prison time for doing exactly what Bill Clinton did. Lying in a
> >civil case regarding sex.
>
> Pure BS. Do you have the numbers to back this up? All 115 were jailed
> due to lying in a civil case about sex? Let's see the cases.
I specifically remember watching a tv news show where they interviewed 4
people who were in jail for lying about sex in a civil case. In every
instance, they were in jail for perjury, not sex. If you are interested
in facts and not pointing fingers/calling names, you can do the
research. I know the facts are out there and I don't care to prove it
to everyone who will not do any research themselves.
>
> > I am afraid that our own president has set a very
> >bad example. After all he is the commander in chief. Also may I remind you
> >that this very year 3 US servicemen and women lost their jobs and were
> >courtmarshalled for doing this same thing.
>
> Yes, and what "party" supports these draconian sanctions? Do you
> believe they should have had their lives ruined over sex?
The same would've happened if the party affiliations were reversed. The
entire show was partisan to the core. Unfortunately, partisan
oneupmanship allowed a president to break the law (I'm talking about
perjury here. I don't care about the sex at all) and get away clean.
>
> > Clinton is their boss. And he's
> >above the same punishment. It's an American travisty and a pathetic display
> >that Democrates dispite addmiting that what he did was undefenseable,
> >Defended him. Shows just how "above" the left seems to think they are while
> >accusing the right of being so. Just my .02 Keith
>
> You miss the point entirely. Sexual misconduct is by virtue, an
> extremely common human...frailty. The constitution provides for this
> by setting a high standard for removal from office. If every president
> was put under 50 million $$'s of sexual scrutiny, and were impeached
> for being anything other than a saint the Senate floor would become
> nothing more than an impeachment house. The man is only there for four
> years and then it is up to us to decide whether we want him for
> another four. Unless what he does while in office threatens the
> national sanctity or security , it has no business going beyond the
> house floor.
> Do you even vote? I read a poll that a great majority of "mall
> america" who share the belief that Clinton should have been impeached
> did not. Not to mention they couldn't tell you what the difference
> between the house and the senate are. This is what your buddies on the
> "right" count on. A content and stupid america. That's why they don't
> support education bills and college loans and grants. Keep them happy
> and stupid and they'll always see our side of the story.
Sexual misconduct may or may not be a human frailty. However, he lied
to a judge and jury. The law states that this is a crime. Not once
has he been charged with sex or any sex crime. He was charged with
Perjury, a defined criminal action. BTW, I voted in 1992 and 1996.
Neither time did I vote for Clinton. I refused to vote for him not
because he was a democrat, but because he struck me as a scoundrel in
1992 and in 1996 I was sure he was. I would've voted against him even
if he was republican or independent.
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From: Tom Fawcett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Small version of Linux
Date: 13 Feb 1999 10:33:54 -0500
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > I have an old PC with only a 3.5in floppy drive which i would like to
> > > install linux on, Is there a small version of linux that i'll fit on
> > > just a few disks? max 20? If so, where can i find it?
>
> There are two versions of linux that will fit on a single
> floppy diskette, the Linux Router Project and Micro Linux.
> They can be found respectively at http://www.linuxrouter.org/
> and http://www4.pisoft.it/~andreoli/mulinux.html
There are many varieties of Linux-on-a-floppy available. Some of them (eg
MicroLinux) are impressively extensive. If that's what he's looking for,
probably any on the ones mentioned would suffice.
If he's looking for a real Linux *distribution*, in the common sense of the
term, I don't know of any on floppies. Distributions are simply too large
and sophisticated these days to be reasonably distributed in 1.44M chunks.
This is a good thing.
-Tom
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From: "Aaron Dershem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Help compiling a driver
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 09:29:44 -0600
Can anyone help me out here? I got the .c file for my NIC off of the web,
and I ran gcc against it (gcc -o via-rhine via-rhine.c). The system output
a lot of errors (as you can tell, I REALLY new to this) - at least I think
they are errors. Well, I got a via-rhine.o file in the
/lib/modules/2.0.36-0.7/net directory. Is this correct? If so, do I need
to modify any files in order to use it?
Any help would be great!
Thanks,
Aaron Dershem
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From: "Dion Mohammed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Criminally Insane Programmers Are Attracted To Open Source Code
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 00:55:38 -0500
Keith Peterson wrote in message
>Well, much as this is a "make-fun-of-Bill" thread, I have to point to the
>Jerry Springer show. I think you'll agree that given the number of simply
>ugly people involved in sex triangles these days, an average-looking guy
>like Bill Gates wouldn't have THAT much trouble finding sex...
Well we must remember that he is one rich dog, and a lot of girls will blow
him at a drop of a hat only for that reason.
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From: Gerald Willmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: How do I know which window manager I am using?
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 07:47:42 -0800
On Sat, 13 Feb 1999, Shomboli wrote:
> OK, now let me get this straight: is wm2 the same as, or different than,
> fvwm2? If different, where do I get it? If the same, why are we discussing
> it as an alternative to itself?
it's a completely different animal - simplistic and aesthetic. Check out
http://www.plig.org/xwinman to find out about different window managers.
There you will also find a link to the sources but there are a few rpms
for wm2 out there. A websearch should have revealed all this by the way.
Gerald
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From: "Pierre A. von Kaenel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux suxxxx
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 10:27:48 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Perhaps it hasn't occurred to you that considering the huge numbers of
folks using Linux now (and the inroads being make in corporate American)
that there may be a problem with *your* end - perhaps it's the hardware,
the version/type of Linux you tried, any number of other things. But I
wouldn't say that Linux, per se, sucks.
--
Pierre A. von Kaenel
Math & Computer Science Dept.
Skidmore College
Saratoga Springs, NY 12866
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