Linux-Misc Digest #59, Volume #19 Mon, 15 Feb 99 23:13:07 EST
Contents:
Re: Why is X video setup for i386 so complicated? (Todd Knarr)
Re: Ensoniq soundcard problem ("Mark Smith")
Kernel question (David)
Linux Surfing (Andrew Fus)
Which distribution? (Nicholas James)
Re: Word Perfect 8.0 d/l question ("Steve D. Perkins")
Re: How to get libstdc++.so.2.9 (Joe Tham)
PPP and ISP connection ("Kerry J. Cox")
Re: 5.2 transplant to healthy harddrive (Leslie Mikesell)
Re: Bunch of pretentious Wankers (Allin Cottrell)
Re: KPPP - Connect ... no Nameserver (David)
Re: Linux & VPN (Jim Richardson)
Re: RE Linux Suxx - Sorry (Leslie Mikesell)
Re: mgetty+sendfax HWOTO (David Efflandt)
Re: Which distribution? (Andrew Comech)
Re: Linux & Netscape based Info. Kiosk? (Jim Richardson)
Re: Which distribution? (Nicholas James)
Epson Stylus 850 (Pavel Greenfield)
Re: minicom disconnects (David Efflandt)
Re: Is this a reasonable partition scheme? (Rod Roark)
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From: Todd Knarr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Why is X video setup for i386 so complicated?
Date: 16 Feb 1999 01:20:13 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Frank McKenney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> First, thanks to you and all the others for your replies. I still don't
> kow if what I _want_ (ReallySimple video setup) is do-able, but at least
> I know I'm not alone in wanting it.
It's entirely do-able. What's needed isn't video setup as in video card
setup, but monitor setup. One of the problems is that modelines ( the
part needed for what you want ) are specific to a particular brand/model
of monitor ( and sometimes vary from year to year for monitors of the
same brand and model ), and there's a _lot_ more monitors than there are
video cards. There is a large file of monitor settings in
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/doc/Monitors, and several Web pages have databases of
monitor modelines, but it's hard to keep up with the changes when the
monitor makers don't publish the NTSC spec numbers for the video modes
they list as supported in their documentation.
Often if you post a request that includes the brand and model of your
monitor, someone with the same monitor can give you their modelines.
> I did get a bit confused by your first statement above; the words you've
> used seem to imply that Linux is complex to set up _because_ it is so
> wonderful, and I don't _think_ that's what you intended (;-).
Linux is complex to set up because it's so flexible. In Windows or OS/2,
if the resolution you want or the monitor you have isnt' on the list, you're
SOL. With Linux you've got a lot more complex setup than "pick the name
from the list", but you can convince it to work with just about anything
regardless of whether it's on someone's list or not.
--
All I want out of the Universe is 10 minutes with the source code and
a quick recompile.
-- unknown
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From: "Mark Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.questions,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Ensoniq soundcard problem
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 21:58:48 -0500
Thanks everyone for all the great advice. My original problem was that I
was running 'make config' and answering "no" to "ask about new/experimental
drivers". That's why es1370 and 71 were not even showing up on a kernel
reconfig!!
Anyhow, after rebuilding both as modules and as part of the kernel I get no
response. I can't even 'cat /dev/sndstat' and inserting the es1371 module
just gives a littany of dynamic load errors.
However, I'm going for 2.2 tonight because I want to see what the fuss is
about anyhow. And, I'm getting another system in the next couple of weeks
too so I'm sure I'll get a newer and more supported card.
THANKS AGAIN..
Mark Smith wrote in message <1%ox2.1357$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Anyone out there able to get Red Hat 5.2 to recognize your Ensonic Audio
PCI
>card? Even though there are no specific drivers to support this (it IS
>Soundblaster compatible) the kernel doesn't even recognize a sound device
at
>boot-time.
>
>
>
>
>
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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Kernel question
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 11:26:10 +1100
Hello All,
My question is this. When building the kernel, I cannot
seem to load the SMC Etherpower Express II ( experimental ) option . It
is always greyed out.( in xconfig) . The module is in the package (
epic100.o ) but unlike previous kernels, the SMC EPIC/100 card is not an
option. Is this a shortcoming of the kernel ?
Do I need to do something that I cannot thimk of ?
Anyhelp will be appreciated.
-David
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From: Andrew Fus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux Surfing
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 20:25:58 -0500
How do I navigate on the web without using any Windows based operating
system, also, how do I hookup Linux to surf the net.
Please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks
Andrew
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From: Nicholas James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Which distribution?
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 20:33:16 -0500
I can't decide whether to get RH 5.2 or Caldera 1.3. I've installed
redhat on two other machines that I've had, but I've never tried
Caldera. I really want StarOffice and KDE, and for once, I'd like to
have my soundcard work under linux.
I feel comfortable with installing and using RH, and I think I'm more
likely to get the sound card working under RH (it's a Creative Labs
PCI128--will this work?).
I know I can just download StarOffice and KDE, but I much prefer to have
things on CD rather than wait several hours for something to download.
I'm considering getting RH 5.2, and just ordering the StarOffice 5.0 CD,
but it would cost me a fortune since I live in Canada.
Caldera 1.3 ships with StarOffice 4.0, but I don't know well that
compares to 5.0.
I'm sorry this message isn't terribly coherent. I'm hoping someone can
render their opinions on some of my questions.
...Thanks very much in advance for any feedback!
--
--== Nicholas James
--== [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--== http://www.uoguelph.ca/~njames/
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From: "Steve D. Perkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Word Perfect 8.0 d/l question
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 03:06:42 +0000
Sorry, but the full size of the file is 23,730,473 bytes... so unless the
program you used to download it has some sort of auto-resume feature, you've got
to go back to square one.
It doesn't matter where you unzip and tar it (just make some temporary
directory for this purpose)... one of the files that will be uncompressed is a
setup program (I can't remember the name... either "Runme" or "install"). The
setup program lets you install it into whatever directory you want, the default
is "/opt/wordperfect".
Hope this helps!
Steve
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From: Joe Tham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: How to get libstdc++.so.2.9
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 01:31:17 GMT
The version of libstdc++ above is supplied by EGCS (1.1.1). You can
install the library from the EGCS package instead to see if it works...
Juergen Fiedler wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I need to get libstdc++.so.2.9, because a program that I recently
> downloaded won't run without. I downloaded libstdc++.2.90.3 from
> ftp.cygnus.com, but I couldn't get it to compile: ./configure
> runs OK, but during 'make', I get the following error:
>
> >-------SNIP-------<
> ../bits/std_iosfwd.h:49: sorry, not implemented: namespace
> make[2]: *** [complex.lo] Error 1
> make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2
> >-------SNIP-------<
>
> I'm running Slackware 3.6 with gcc 2.8.1. Does anone know how I can
> get libstdc++ 2.9?
>
> TIA,
> Juergen
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From: "Kerry J. Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PPP and ISP connection
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 15:27:27 +0000
Just wondering if anyone has an easy HOWTO for people using RedHat Linux
and how to connect to their ISPs. I have several friends who want to
try Linux but their main concern is getting their modem to work and the
lack of easy HowTos. Any got any pointers? I've directed some of my
friends to the Linux HowTos but these are a bit over the heads of
neophyte Microsoft users used to configuring Dial-Up Networking.
Thanks.
KJ
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Subject: Re: 5.2 transplant to healthy harddrive
Date: 15 Feb 1999 21:17:05 -0600
In article <7a8nni$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
craig smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
>
> I have a linux 5.2 (RH) and a 5.0 system. The 5.2's hdb (mounted
>as / ) is suspected to be failing slowly. I have hda and hdc mounted
>(hda was originally win32 but got rid of that :) and am wondering if
>would be easier to copy or cat the hdb drive in my 5.0 machine or if
>there is an easy way of doing it within the 5.2 system itself.
> I know this is a fairly in depth question, so if someone could
>point me in the right direction I can _read_ the details in a man or
>webpage :)
If they are networked and you have set up root rsh permissions you
might:
cd /source_dir
tar cf - . | rsh othermachine 'cd /dest_dir && tar xf -'
or some equivalent as long as this doesn't clobber the running
system. Note that this will not make the drive bootable. If this
is the disk containing the kernel you'll have to run lilo after
copying.
Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Allin Cottrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Bunch of pretentious Wankers
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 22:00:45 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Need I remind everyone that...
Certainly not. Get lost.
--
Allin Cottrell
Department of Economics
Wake Forest University, NC
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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KPPP - Connect ... no Nameserver
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 13:20:10 +1100
Have you got the DNS in /etc/resolv.conf
I got KPPP working properly with the EZ-PPP instructions.
Daniel TONG wrote:
> Torsten Jenkner wrote:
>
> > Hello, i tried to connect to the internet with Kppp and it works but i got
> > the following problem:
> >
> > when i start the netscape navigator it doesn't find the nameserver i give
> > the kppp configuration. the DNS - ip is correct configured.
> >
> > the ping command works to every machine and netscape works also if i type in
> > the ip-numbers, but every time the DNS should work it doesn't (every
> > www-adress and every link to another www-adress)
> >
> > and also the first ping to any adress after the first connect let the
> > ppp-demon die unexpectedly. after a few seconds it reconnects and all pings
> > work fine... but the DNS doesn't work.
> >
> > do anyone know about these problems? is it a bug (S.U.S.E. 5.3 KDE 1.0)
> >
> > Torsten
>
> keep me posted
> i have exactly the same problem under rh52 and kde1.0
> the only difference is that when i pinged my isp, it showed i was hooked up
> properly with bytes coming in steadily
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Subject: Re: Linux & VPN
Date: 16 Feb 1999 03:17:28 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 14 Feb 1999 12:55:27 GMT,
[EMAIL PROTECTED], in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
brought forth the following words...:
>Looking at options for building a VPN. With MS I can use NT, Proxy
>Server and PPTP. What options do I have if I go the Linux route.
>
>TIA
>
>steve
Be very wary of pptp from M$ it is one big security hole. ( I have no
recommendations for linux, I know that there are some packages for this.
But I haven't needed it, so I can't offer more info regarding them.)
--
Jim Richardson
Anarchist, pagan and proud of it
WWW.eskimo.com/~warlock
Linux, because life's too short for a buggy OS.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Subject: Re: RE Linux Suxx - Sorry
Date: 15 Feb 1999 21:24:02 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, softalk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Firstly to all the kind messages of support thank you very much for your
>advice. To the (smug reply's . Go screw your kernel.
>
>The problems I experienced where not with the Linux install itself but with
>the lack of consistent documentation regarding utils. Most HowTo's have a
>small amount of info and loads of links to other sites which in turn, if
>they exist, have little if any info and you guessed it loads more links
>(linux shoould be renamed Linx'r'us). Take for example the usually simple
>idea of a email server with pop3. With Linux I was sent from site to site
>never really finding a single site with all the required information. The
>only reply to requests in usnet was (Try imap you idiot) What is? Where is?
>Howto? No forget the HowTo. Solution..Found it, installed it, crap. Solution
>2. Try/Buy a retail Packaged Server ie Communigate Pro. (Long story but two
>more days wasted. The end result..Nice product but incompatible with RedHat
>5.1).
>
>The end result.. I must admit I have decided to play with Linux for a while
>longer. After all I don't look on it anymore as an operating syspem but a
>free text based adventure game (just like the old days), but I scrapped the
>redHat 5.1 and am about to install SUSE). But my conclusion is that to
>advise companies to use a package which seems to be in permenant early Beta
>just because you hate Microsoft would be folly. Microsoft have nothing to
>worry about just yet.
Did I miss something here? If you installed a redhat 5.1 system you
*had* a working pop3 and imap server running, out of the box. All
you had to do was configure some clients to use it. I'm not surprised
that no one could give you advice about how to do it. You should have
picked up the security updates from Redhat, but otherwise it just
works.
Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: mgetty+sendfax HWOTO
Date: 16 Feb 1999 03:41:47 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 15 Feb 1999 07:06:51 -0500, Yan Seiner
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Where is the mgetty+sendfax howto? I seem to remember seeing one, but
>can't find it.
>
>I need installation and config help.
Try 'info mgetty'. It is in info files instead of man pages.
--
David Efflandt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.xnet.com/~efflandt/
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From: Andrew Comech <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Which distribution?
Date: 15 Feb 1999 21:00:56 -0500
Oh yeah, let's start this rolling, --
*** Debian's the best! ***
Looking forward to your followups!
Andrew
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Subject: Re: Linux & Netscape based Info. Kiosk?
Date: 16 Feb 1999 03:17:26 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 14 Feb 1999 09:44:27 -0500,
Dale Coleman, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
brought forth the following words...:
>Hi all,
>
>I'm interested in trying to setup a Linux and Netscape based information
>Kiosk for use in a sport retail store.
>What I have in mind is a low cost system that would be used by customers
>to enter personal data into a form as well as a display for other information.
>
>Something along the lines of a frame based .html local web site with a
>cgi script to collect the customer data.
>
>My concerns center around setting up X and Netscape to allow access
>only to the local site and not the rest of the HD.
>
>I would think it would be best to lock X and Netscape so somebody can't
>exit X or Netscape or use Netscape to access anything other than the
>local site.
>
>Does anybody know of links or other people that have done this?
>
>Thanks for any help,
>--
>Dale Coleman
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>http://www.gate.net/~kf4sir
Check back issues of Linux Journal, there was an article about some internet
cafe which used linux + netscape as kiosks for customers. 'bout a year ago
or so.
--
Jim Richardson
Anarchist, pagan and proud of it
WWW.eskimo.com/~warlock
Linux, because life's too short for a buggy OS.
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From: Nicholas James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Which distribution?
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 22:46:17 -0500
David wrote:
>
> Go with SuSE 6.0. It will have everything you need.
Ok, you talked me into it. I read through the features at SuSE's web
site, and it sounds fantastic.
I just filled out their online order form.
>
> Nicholas James wrote:
>
> > I can't decide whether to get RH 5.2 or Caldera 1.3. I've installed
> > redhat on two other machines that I've had, but I've never tried
> > Caldera. I really want StarOffice and KDE, and for once, I'd like to
> > have my soundcard work under linux.
> >
> > I feel comfortable with installing and using RH, and I think I'm more
> > likely to get the sound card working under RH (it's a Creative Labs
> > PCI128--will this work?).
> >
> > I know I can just download StarOffice and KDE, but I much prefer to have
> > things on CD rather than wait several hours for something to download.
> >
> > I'm considering getting RH 5.2, and just ordering the StarOffice 5.0 CD,
> > but it would cost me a fortune since I live in Canada.
> >
> > Caldera 1.3 ships with StarOffice 4.0, but I don't know well that
> > compares to 5.0.
> >
> > I'm sorry this message isn't terribly coherent. I'm hoping someone can
> > render their opinions on some of my questions.
> >
> > ...Thanks very much in advance for any feedback!
> >
> > --
> > --== Nicholas James
> > --== [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > --== http://www.uoguelph.ca/~njames/
--
--== Nicholas James
--== [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--== http://www.uoguelph.ca/~njames/
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From: Pavel Greenfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Epson Stylus 850
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 21:12:50 -0500
Hi,
Is the Stylus 850 supported under linux? I checked the compatibility
list and it mentions Stylus 800. Does that mean the 800 series or just
one printer?
Some sites mention "uniprint" in Redhat. I have Slackware. Will it still
work?
Can I ever get Linux to a point where I can just browse the web, hit
Print, and get a color printout?
Thank you very much in advance!
Pavel
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: minicom disconnects
Date: 16 Feb 1999 03:55:44 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 14 Feb 1999 11:46:54 -0600, Hugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I dial into my ISP and minicom connects: (displays "Connect 19200"). Then it
>does nothing for a few seconds and then disconnects. Any suggestions?
Possibilities:
Your ISP uses only PPP (try a PPP connection using PAP). This is very
easy to set up in RedHat. Slackware might need a pruned ppp-on and
/etc/ppp/pap-secrets entry.
You have a 14.4K RPI modem which has no hardware error correction and
without special RPI software will not connect to any faster modem.
Another program (getty or fax) is using that device under a different name
(all programs that use that modem should call it the same /dev/ttyS# or
whatever).
Your modem is using a non-standard IRQ and you did not let Linux know with
a setserial command (see 'man setserial') usually in /etc/rc.d/rc.serial.
--
David Efflandt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.xnet.com/~efflandt/
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From: Rod Roark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is this a reasonable partition scheme?
Date: 16 Feb 1999 03:59:18 GMT
Bill Curtis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>... Here is the layout I'm considering:
> 256 MB / primary (inner tracks)
> 512 /var primary
> 64 swap primary
>3072 /home logical
>1024 /usr logical
>1024 /usr/local logical (outer tracks)
Five ext2 filesystems on a 6M drive seems a bit much... you'll waste a lot
of space. What I frequently set up for customers is a root partition,
/usr partition, and the rest as a single (initially empty) partition
mounted as /mnt/work. Plus swap space of course as hda2. You can
experiment with symlinks (e.g. for /home and /usr/local) pointing to
various places in the work partition.
-- Rod
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