Linux-Misc Digest #81, Volume #19 Thu, 18 Feb 99 09:13:23 EST
Contents:
xbiff and pop3 (Filip Hosten)
Re: Mail client for Linux (Gareth Owen)
Re: HTML and/or Java email client for LInux??? (Brett W. McCoy)
Re: Red Hat's sick sense of humor (support) (Marco Anglesio)
Re: x-server crashes whole system? (Rob Komar)
Re: Bunch of pretentious Wankers (Toon Moene)
Re: Set modem speed in a script (Bill Unruh)
Re: Set modem speed in a script (Bill Unruh)
ethernet probs ("The Seeker")
Re: Advanced RAM usage question... (Bruce Stephens)
Re: floating point accuracy on Linux? (Johan Kullstam)
Re: Help w/ wildcard expressions (Peter N. M. Hansteen)
Re: Mail client for Linux (Richard Corfield)
Always as root - is it dangerous? (Nils Westerlund)
Re: Looking for nice editor, FTP a must. (Stephan Schulz)
Re: Linux Security Questions (Rob Komar)
BSDi passwd file to Linux Passwd file ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Filip Hosten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: xbiff and pop3
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 11:23:45 +0100
Hi folks,
Anybody tried to combine xbiff (or olbiff) to a pop3 mailserver? If you
have info, please mail me.
Filip
--
Filip Hosten, Dep. : VJ54, Alcatel Design Centre Antwerp Belgium,
Internatinal phone : +32 3 240 7769,
Alcanet phone : 2 605 7769, Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Gareth Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Mail client for Linux
Date: 18 Feb 1999 11:31:11 +0000
Marco Tephlant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Works?
> Only if works means crashes, leaks memory, uses loads of resources, takes
> ages to load and can't handle java reliably without crashing. (a known bug -
> the "workaround" from Netscape is "switch java off"!)
But he's not suggesting you use it to browse the Web (although it is
better than Lynx at displaying the cartoons at doonesbury.com), but fetch
POP3 mail. That doesn't use Java and so the quality (or lack thereof) of
its JVM is not terribly relevant, is it?
--
Gareth Owen
http://www.ma.man.ac.uk/~gowen/lisp/
Emacs Made Almost Completely Screwed
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brett W. McCoy)
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.lang.javascript,comp.lang.java.advocacy
Subject: Re: HTML and/or Java email client for LInux???
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 12:24:04 GMT
On 18 Feb 1999 05:49:40 GMT, Cyrus Mehta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi, is there some sort of email client that I can use in a web browser?
>I know its not ideal, but I am looking for a VERY lightweight client.
>
>Basically I want to see something kinda like HotMail.
How is running a bloated browser lightweight compared to running elm or
mutt?
--
Brett W. McCoy
http://www.lan2wan.com/~bmccoy/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco Anglesio)
Subject: Re: Red Hat's sick sense of humor (support)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 22:16:01 GMT
On 17 Feb 1999 15:14:06 GMT, Kyler Laird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There are several support packages available. Please see the complete
> listing/descriptions at www.redhat.com/prodcat.phtml/Support+Products.
>
>Take a look at those support packages. They range
>from $995 to $60,000. Yeah, that's *exactly* what
>I was wanting. Thanks a lot, Red Hat. (I suspect
That's how much support packages cost in the real world. You're paying for
a consultant at between a hundred and two hundred bucks an hour billable
rate. It's for businesses, obviously, not private individuals.
Of course, if you want to check out your options on the net, it would be
much cheaper :). You have a huge knowledge base out there on dejanews and
other archive services, as well as the LDP, etc. And you can always check
the consultants-HOWTO if you want to pay someone local :).
Marco
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> Marco Anglesio | Love is a perky elf dancing a merry <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] | little jig and then suddenly he turns <
> http://www.the-wire.com/~mpa | on you with a miniature machine gun. <
> | --Matt Groening, Life in Hell <
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob Komar)
Subject: Re: x-server crashes whole system?
Date: 17 Feb 1999 22:47:10 GMT
tg ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: I use suse6.0, an alpha x-server for my banshee-card, Kernel 2.0.36 and
: KDE.
: I wonder if this x-server is able to crash my whole system(mouse
: pointer moves, but I can`t even reboot the system by ctrl-alt-del or
: shut down the x-server by ctrl-alt-backspace)?
Yes, the X server can crash and leave your system in sych a state.
If you can log into your system from another machine, then you
can kill X and get things back to normal. Otherwise, you may
have to hit the reset button (and hope that fsck successfully
fixes the file systems when you boot up next time).
You should look at installing the 2.2.1 version of the kernel
on your machine. A new set of `Magic SysRq' key combinations
were introduced to help recover from exactly these situations.
Cheers,
Rob Komar
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From: Toon Moene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Bunch of pretentious Wankers
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 23:25:51 +0100
Eric Peterson wrote:
> > I think we all have opinions about subjects read in the newspapers.
> > None of those opinions have force of law. Without being on a jury and
> > hearing the evidence presented in a courtroom, there's no way to
> > accurately judge what he did or didn't do. His involvement with the
> > Paula Jones lawsuit was as a citizen, not as President. All his
> > conduct in that case, right or wrong, was as a citizen, not as
> That's a dangerous way of looking at it. He is the leader of the USA. As
> such EVERYTHING he does reflects on the USA and his position. You can't
> simply seperate his actions into "citizen" and "presidential" so
> conveniently.
I am sorry to interrupt your TV soap, but the only thing that "reflects"
on the USA *on this side of the pond* is the silly, ineffectual,
investigation of one Kenneth Starr into an *alledged* "Whitewater" (or
what's it called) fraud case by the current President of the United
States Of America, culminating in a report published on the Internet
that would certainly have been banned under the Communications Decency
Act.
Perhaps I do not even have to expound on *how* this reflects on the USA.
--
Toon Moene ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Saturnushof 14, 3738 XG Maartensdijk, The Netherlands
Phone: +31 346 214290; Fax: +31 346 214286
g77 Support: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; egcs: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Set modem speed in a script
Date: 16 Feb 1999 18:55:34 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Albert Want" <al-want@#--remove--#usa.net>
writes:
>I need to write a script to connect my modem to the vodafone-sms gateway at
>the fixed speed of 2400bps.
>I'm thinking about write this script in expect or shell script but I don't
>know how to set a fixed modem speed.
This is an AT command to your modem. On mine it is AT&G13, but this
command need not be universal. You have to look at your modem manual to
find out what the peculiarities of your modem are.
Inclide this command in the init string to your modem
(eg atZ&G13)
Now, unless the modem at the far end is peculiar, your modem should
train to the highest possible speed the remote is capable of (2400
apparently), so it is not clear this is needed.
>Any advice is appreciated.
>Please answer in mail too ! (remove #--remove--#)
If you want help, do not make it hard to get help. I personally refust
to send mail to people who do not supply a valid email return address.
So you have to decide if you want help more or less than you don't want
spam.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Set modem speed in a script
Date: 16 Feb 1999 18:56:53 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Richard Cohen) writes:
>Investigate the setserial command - it will do what you want.
The setserial controls ONLY the computer to modem to speed, not the
modem to modem speed. That is set by an AT command sent to the modem.
>On Tue, 16 Feb 1999 10:14:28 -0000, Albert Want <al-want@#--remove--#usa.net> wrote:
>>I need to write a script to connect my modem to the vodafone-sms gateway at
>>the fixed speed of 2400bps.
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From: "The Seeker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ethernet probs
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 00:31:36 +0200
First of all : I am (yet) a NEWBIE with linux (as much as it concerns
troubleshooting!). So if can help and willing to answer, please be as
specific as possible in your answer.
I believe that this question will have been posted a million times !!! Linux
is not the operating system with the easiest way to make your lan work ! I
have done everything i could have imagined in order to make my lan work
(with the linux pc) but all my attempts have failed. So i ask help from you.
This email has as much info as i have imagined that would be helpful. If you
need more info in order to help or any any any idea that could lead to the
solution, please reply to me and i will provide as much info as i can & you
need.
My LAN has 4 PCs. Three with win98 (192.168.0.2 - 192.168.0.4) and one with
win98 & linux redhat 5.0 (192.168.0.1). Windows Plug & play has worked fine
(it happens now and then !! hehe) and all the network cards have been
configured in the windows environment. In the win environment i can ping all
pcs and the lan is running ok. TCP-IP protocol has been setup normally.
When i boot with linux, i cant even ping the other pcs. In fact, i am not
sure whether linux detects or does not detect my network card (in the
192.168.0.1 pc). In the starting procedure (dmesg) only one message appears
(related to eth0) and this is the following:
-delaying eth0 initialisation
I have no idea what this means. I thought that this message appears because
linux failed to detect my network card, but if i "cat" the /proc/pci file i
see that linux does that.
More talking would be waste of time. Here is the info of my network card and
i have attached the configuration files that (i think) are related to the
network card and it's configuration. I dont know whether there is a conflict
(but if i boot in win98 no conflict appears) so i have also attached some
files that might help
The card is a CNet PowerNIC network interface card (NE2000 combatible) pci
and i have done anything the instructions say, in order to make linux detect
my card. But no light found in instructions........
I dont know what else could i do. All my friend of those who seemed to know
something about linux, have no idea what goes wrong (but now i am so sure
whether they are less newbies than me). Anyway, these newgroups i believe
are my last option.
Thanks to all who spent time reading all of this stuff !!
The Seeker
*** SORRY ABOUT THE LENGTH OF THIS MESSAGE - BUT SINCE NO ATTACHMENTS ARE
SUPPORTED, THIS WAS THE ONLY WAY :o( ***
[devices] /proc/devices
Character devices:
1 mem
2 pty
3 ttyp
4 ttyp
5 cua
7 vcs
10 misc
14 sound
Block devices:
1 ramdisk
2 fd
3 ide0
9 md
11 sr
[dma] /proc/dma
1: Sound Blaster8
2: floppy
4: cascade
5: Sound Blaster16
[dmesg] , i suppose you know about that !!
Console: 16 point font, 400 scans
Console: colour VGA+ 80x25, 1 virtual console (max 63)
pcibios_init : BIOS32 Service Directory structure at 0x000fac10
pcibios_init : BIOS32 Service Directory entry at 0xfb090
pcibios_init : PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfb270
Probing PCI hardware.
Warning : Unknown PCI device (8086:7190). Please read include/linux/pci.h
Warning : Unknown PCI device (8086:7191). Please read include/linux/pci.h
Warning : Unknown PCI device (12d2:18). Please read include/linux/pci.h
Warning : Unknown PCI device (121a:2). Please read include/linux/pci.h
Calibrating delay loop.. ok - 349.80 BogoMIPS
Memory: 127620k/131072k available (736k kernel code, 384k reserved, 2156k
data)
Swansea University Computer Society NET3.035 for Linux 2.0
NET3: Unix domain sockets 0.13 for Linux NET3.035.
Swansea University Computer Society TCP/IP for NET3.034
IP Protocols: IGMP, ICMP, UDP, TCP
VFS: Diskquotas version dquot_5.6.0 initialized
Checking 386/387 coupling... Ok, fpu using exception 16 error reporting.
Checking 'hlt' instruction... Ok.
Linux version 2.0.32 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.7.2.3) #1 Wed
Nov 19 00:46:45 EST 1997
Starting kswapd v 1.4.2.2
Serial driver version 4.13 with no serial options enabled
tty00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
tty01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
Real Time Clock Driver v1.07
Ramdisk driver initialized : 16 ramdisks of 4096K size
ide: i82371 PIIX (Triton) on PCI bus 0 function 17
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xf000-0xf007
ide1: BM-DMA at 0xf008-0xf00f
hda: FUJITSU MPB3043ATU, 4125MB w/0kB Cache, CHS=525/255/63
hdb: QUANTUM FIREBALL ST1.6A, 1539MB w/81kB Cache, CHS=782/64/63
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M, fd1 is 1.2M
FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
md driver 0.35 MAX_MD_DEV=4, MAX_REAL=8
scsi : 0 hosts.
scsi : detected total.
Partition check:
hda: hda1 hda2 < hda5 hda6 > hda3 hda4
hdb: hdb1 hdb2 < hdb5 >
RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
aha152x: BIOS test: passed, detected 1 controller(s)
aha152x0: vital data: PORTBASE=0x340, IRQ=11, SCSI ID=7, reconnect=enabled,
parity=enabled, synchronous=disabled, delay=100, extended
translation=disabled
aha152x: trying software interrupt, ok.
scsi0 : Adaptec 152x SCSI driver; $Revision: 1.18 $
scsi : 1 host.
Vendor: PLEXTOR Model: CD-ROM PX-20TS Rev: 1.01
Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 1, lun 0
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
Trying to unmount old root ... okay
Adding Swap: 56220k swap-space (priority -1)
aha152x: ignoring spurious interrupt, nothing to do
QUEUE STATUS:
issue_SC:
current_SC:
none
disconnected_SC:
waiting: SCSISEQ (); SCSISIG (DATA OUT); INTSTAT (lo); SSTAT (SELINGO
BUSFREE PHASECHG ); SSTAT (); SXFRCTL0 (CH1 ); SIGNAL (); SELID (ff), SSTAT2
(SEMPTY ); SFCNT (0); SCSICNT (0), OFFCNT(0), SSTAT4 (); DMACNTRL0 (16BIT
PIO READ ); DMASTAT (DFIFOEMP )
enabled interrupts ()
Soundblaster audio driver Copyright (C) by Hannu Savolainen 1993-1996
SB 4.16 detected OK (220)
Installed 0
sysctl: ip forwarding off
Swansea University Computer Society IPX 0.34 for NET3.035
IPX Portions Copyright (c) 1995 Caldera, Inc.
Appletalk 0.17 for Linux NET3.035
CSLIP: code copyright 1989 Regents of the University of California
PPP: version 2.2.0 (dynamic channel allocation)
PPP Dynamic channel allocation code copyright 1995 Caldera, Inc.
PPP line discipline registered.
registered device ppp0
Swansea University Computer Society IPX 0.34 for NET3.035
IPX Portions Copyright (c) 1995 Caldera, Inc.
Appletalk 0.17 for Linux NET3.035
VFS: Disk change detected on device 02:00
end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 0
PPP: ppp line discipline successfully unregistered
VFS: Disk change detected on device 02:00
[ifeth0-cfg] /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifeth0-cfg
DEVICE=eth0
USERCTL=no
ONBOOT=yes
BOOTPROTO=none
BROADCAST=192.168.0.255
NETWORK=192.168.0.4:x
NETMASK=255.255.255.0
IPADDR=192.168.0.1
[interrupts] /proc/interrupts
0: 240310 timer
1: 7034 keyboard
2: 0 cascade
4: 44 + serial
6: 24 + floppy
7: 1 sound blaster
8: 1 + rtc
11: 34 + aha152x
13: 1 math error
14: 26112 + ide0
[ioports] /proc/ioports
0000-001f : dma1
0020-003f : pic1
0040-005f : timer
0060-006f : keyboard
0070-007f : rtc
0080-009f : dma page reg
00a0-00bf : pic2
00c0-00df : dma2
00f0-00ff : npu
01f0-01f7 : ide0
0220-022f : sound blaster
02f8-02ff : serial(auto)
0340-035f : aha152x
03c0-03df : vga+
03f0-03f5 : floppy
03f6-03f6 : ide0
03f7-03f7 : floppy DIR
03f8-03ff : serial(auto)
f000-f007 : IDE DMA
f008-f00f : IDE DMA
[network] /etc/sysconfig/network/network
NETWORKING=yes
FORWARD_IPV4=no
HOSTNAME=veneficus
GATEWAYDEV=
GATEWAY=
[pci] /proc/pci
PCI devices found:
Bus 0, device 15, function 0:
Ethernet controller: Realtek 8029 (rev 0).
Medium devsel. IRQ 5.
I/O at 0xe400.
Bus 0, device 13, function 0:
Multimedia video controller: 3Dfx Unknown device (rev 2).
Vendor id=121a. Device id=2.
Fast devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. IRQ 255.
Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe7000000.
Bus 0, device 2, function 3:
Bridge: Intel 82371AB PIIX4 Power Management (rev 2).
Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable.
Bus 0, device 2, function 2:
USB Controller: Intel 82371AB PIIX4 (rev 1).
Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. IRQ 12. Master Capable.
Latency=64.
I/O at 0xe000.
Bus 0, device 2, function 1:
IDE interface: Intel 82371AB 430TX PIIX4 (rev 1).
Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. Master Capable.
Latency=64.
I/O at 0xf000.
Bus 0, device 2, function 0:
ISA bridge: Intel 82371AB PIIX4 (rev 2).
Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. Master Capable. No
bursts.
Bus 1, device 0, function 0:
VGA compatible controller: Unknown vendor Unknown device (rev 16).
Vendor id=12d2. Device id=18.
Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. IRQ 10. Master Capable.
Latency=64. Min Gnt=3.Max Lat=1.
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe4000000.
Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe6000000.
Bus 0, device 1, function 0:
PCI bridge: Intel Unknown device (rev 2).
Vendor id=8086. Device id=7191.
Medium devsel. Master Capable. Latency=64. Min Gnt=136.
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0x40010100.
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0x22a0d0d0.
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe5f0e400.
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe6f0e600.
Bus 0, device 0, function 0:
Host bridge: Intel Unknown device (rev 2).
Vendor id=8086. Device id=7190.
Medium devsel. Master Capable. Latency=64.
Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe0000000.
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From: Bruce Stephens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Re: Advanced RAM usage question...
Date: 17 Feb 1999 23:12:10 +0000
Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Surely, this must be one of the dumbest remarks I've seen in a
> while. "Free memory is a waste" -- we're better off if all our
> memory is used up? That sounds like a great justification for the
> way Windows works.
You misunderstand. We don't want bloatware, but if (as is the case),
I have 128M, about 96M of which is typically unneeded by the programs
I run, then it may as well be usefully filled with cached copies of
files and things. Waste not, want not.
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Subject: Re: floating point accuracy on Linux?
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 18 Feb 1999 07:36:47 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Georg Schwarz) writes:
> Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> >what happens is this. the x87 has a 8 register stack internally. all
> >the registers are (normally) 80 bits. sometimes, during a calculation
> >with many terms, you want to juggle more than 8 quantities. to make
> >room, one (or more) of the registers are saved to memory and reloaded
> >again when you need it. the save is done in double-precision (ie 64
> >bits). the precision is lost during the save.
>
> OK, how is that saving being done? When conmverting down from 80 to 64
> bits, is the number being rounded or are the extra bits just being
> truncated?
the save is done with a floating point unit save operation with 64 bit
destination (you can save to 32 bit and 80 bit values as well). it
rounds properly, but you are going from a representation with more
bits to one that has less.
--
Johan Kullstam [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Don't Fear the Penguin!
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From: Peter N. M. Hansteen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.user-friendly
Subject: Re: Help w/ wildcard expressions
Date: 18 Feb 1999 14:12:21 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry Bados) writes:
> What wildcard expressions would you use for the following:
>
> 1) All files in the "/tmp" directory
/tmp or /tmp/*
ls would require the -a switch if you also need to see files
with names starting with a "." (period)
> 2) All files that contain a "w" in that directory (/tmp)
/tmp/*w*
> 3) All files that start with "ab", contain an "e" and end with ".c"
ab*e*.c
> 4) All files that either start with "test" or contain the pattern "hi"
the "or" would be tricky without some sort of piping or filtering, but
$ ls test* *hi*
would show you all file names starting with "test" plus all file
names containing "hi" somewhere
--
Peter N. M. Hansteen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Datadokumentasjon A/S, Bredsgaarden 2, N-5003 Bergen, Norway
Tel: +47 55 32 08 02 Fax: +47 55 32 14 95
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From: Richard Corfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Mail client for Linux
Date: 18 Feb 1999 13:30:25 -0000
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Barry O'Neill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Hmm. As we both seem to be using it, it must have *something* going for
>it. Now, when is someone going to port Gravity to Linux, or do I have
>to do it myself...? :)
>
While you're at it can we have a graphical trn (jtrn, a Java version
perhaps) with all of trn's features and that nice navigation tree but
point and click for novices too :-)
- Richard.
--
_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ Richard John Corfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
_/ _/ _/ _/ IBM Engineering Solutions UK: Programming/Systems
_/_/ _/ _/ Linux, AIX, C, C++, Java, Internet, NT, ... [ENXP]
_/ _/ _/_/ _/_/_/ All views expressed are my own and not those of IBM
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From: Nils Westerlund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Always as root - is it dangerous?
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 14:37:50 +0100
I installed SuSE Linux 5.3 two days ago and I'm really impressed so far.
After ten years in MSWindows-environment there are some things that are
a bit confusing. Could it be "dangerous" to always log in as root? I
don't want to re-login or su everytime I want to mount a zip or
something like that, and therefore I always log in as root. How do you
guys usually do?
thnx
nisse
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephan Schulz)
Subject: Re: Looking for nice editor, FTP a must.
Date: 16 Feb 1999 17:21:25 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Eric Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Matthias Warkus wrote:
>> It will also let you play Blackbox, give you multibyte character
>> support, pull-down menus, context menus, it can psychoanalyse you, it
>> can psychoanalyse Zippy the Pinhead, you can use it as a database or a
>> spreadsheet, and, most important: it tells you when you need a typing
>> break, and during the break, it shows the Towers of Hanoi.
>
>Where can I find information on how to use these features (well, minus
>the psychoanalysis)?
In emacs, of course! C-h C-h, and then read on ;-)
========================== It can be done! =================================
Please email me as [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephan Schulz)
============================================================================
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob Komar)
Subject: Re: Linux Security Questions
Date: 17 Feb 1999 21:23:14 GMT
Lyno Sullivan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: I have been told that there is a serious security flaw in Linux in
: that the storage and transmission of passwords is not encrypted yet?
I would like to add to the other reponses that passwords _are_
encrypted when stored in Linux (as in all Unixes). When stored
in the `/etc/passwd' file, the encrypted passwords are viewable
by anybody, but when stored in the `/etc/shadow' file, only
root processes can view the encrypted passwords. So, the shadow
password suite helps to cut down on the cracking of encrypted
passwords. Unencrypted passwords aren't stored in any official
location (but you can't stop users from storing them in personal
files ;).
Cheers,
Rob Komar
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: BSDi passwd file to Linux Passwd file
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 12:39:58 GMT
Hi,
I am in the process of changing over OS's from BSDi to Linux and was
wondering if anyone knew if there was a way to use the BSDi user passwd file
on Linux?
Thanks..
- Trevor
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