Linux-Misc Digest #81, Volume #20 Thu, 6 May 99 08:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: ACL (Jon Haugsand)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522) (Ed Avis)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522) (Ed Avis)
Re: Acrobat Reader 4.0 is out... (Bernd Melchers)
getch /getc/getchar ("news")
Problem Installing Linux (no local CDROM drive) (Stewart Watkiss)
Re: "no daemon present"? ... lpc> status (Martin Schulz)
Re: Shadow Passwords (KDE Screensavers need suid) (M. Buchenrieder)
Re: SUID games? What is RedHat doing? (Jonathan Thornburg)
Re: Benchmark software for Linux? (Marc Mutz)
Re: bsd_tcp ("D. Vrabel")
RTF (Andres Kuusk)
Re: The Best Linux distribution? (was Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux)
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: How to switch VTs wben X is running? (Przem Kowalczyk)
Newsgroup-Reader for multipart-messages ("Braunstein Armin")
Stepping thru assembler codes in GDB (How?) (Mohd-Hanafiah Abdullah)
Re: Benchmark software for Linux? (Mohd-Hanafiah Abdullah)
Problem: Block on freelist at 008c8910 isn't free (norton_ng)
Re: Kernel 2.2.7 (Mark Lo)
Re: Netscape 4.51 question (Thomas Zajic)
Re: bsd_tcp ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Problems compiling Kernel 2.2.7 (Sellaro)
Re: Can't run ipfwadm commands from rc.firewall script??? (mist)
Re: netcfg and "no $DISPLAY variable" (mist)
Re: Is Unix a single user operating system? (was: Wanted: Database/Contact mgr with
backend on Linux/FreeBSD, web frontend) ("Rolf Marvin B�e Lindgren")
Re: Problems compiling Kernel 2.2.7 (Hans Wolters)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (Darren Winsper)
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From: Jon Haugsand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ACL
Date: 03 May 1999 12:52:59 +0200
* Andreas Moroder
> is there a way to have ACL on Linux
What do you mean?
Allegro Common Lisp or
Access control lists
--
Jon Haugsand
Norwegian Computing Center, <http://www.nr.no/engelsk/>
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Pho: +47 22852608 / +47 22852500,
Fax: +47 22697660, Pb 114 Blindern, N-0314 OSLO, Norway
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From: Ed Avis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522)
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 10:59:49 +0100
Peter Seebach wrote:
>>What incentive is there for private initiatives to promote literacy on a
>>large enough scale?
>2. Do companies generally find that they are better off if the general
>populace is literate?
I expect that almost all companies benefit greatly from increased
literacy. That doesn't mean, however, that companies would start free
schooling if the government stopped. The only way that any company
could afford it is to get together with hundreds of others, and they
all contribute a little. But if I were running a company, with a
responsibility to my shareholders, I wouldn't contribute a penny to
such a scheme - after all, I'll get the same benefit from it whether I
contribute or not, and my share is a very small amount, so let other
people pay. This is called the free rider problem. (There is a
similar problem with funding free software - you get the same access
to free software whether you helped in developing it, or just did
nothing.)
--
Ed Avis
Advertise here! [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Ed Avis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522)
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 11:01:27 +0100
Mike Coffin wrote:
>Second, if give credit to governments for all the good they have
>done---and they have done considerable good---then you have to balance
>the books. How much harm have they done? I won't go into a litany of
>the atrocities that even relatively enlightened governments have
>committed in this century: I'm sure you could list them as well as I.
Private companies and individuals have done some bad things too.
--
Ed Avis
Advertise here! [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bernd Melchers)
Subject: Re: Acrobat Reader 4.0 is out...
Date: 6 May 1999 10:03:00 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>On Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:40:19 +0200, Gisbert Berger
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>There is acrobat 4.0 out. There is only a prerelease for linux
>>available now, but it works more or less. Hopefully they will make a
i get it from
ftp://ftp.uni-magdeburg.de/pub/mirror/ftp.adobe.com/acrobatreader/unix/4.x/beta/linux-ar-40.tar.gz
Ciao
Bernd
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From: "news" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: getch /getc/getchar
Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 12:42:41 +0200
Does N E 1 know how to get a singel char from the keyborad
using generic C ( simple C ) without using ncurses.h or vga.h
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From: Stewart Watkiss <stewart.watkiss#@#virgin.net>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Problem Installing Linux (no local CDROM drive)
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 10:58:48 +0100
I am not new to Linux, this is however only the second time I've tried
installing it. The first worked OK but this time I haven't had quite the
same success.
I had previously installed an older version of RedHat on a machine as
dual boot with another OS. The machine does not have a local CDROM drive
but does have a network connection. Previously I installed Linux by
creating a FAT 16 partition and copying the entire contents of the CD to
that partition using the other OS to FTP from the CD.
I decided to install a more recent version of Redhat (Ver 5.2), but
whilst doing this I wanted to reorganize the disk partitions and remove
the old OS leaving only Linux. I copied the new Redhat CD into the FAT
16 partition (reformatting first) over the network. I then ran the Linux
install (I no longer have the old OS so can't transfer the files over
the network).
The problem is that when using the installer I reach the point:
What partition and directory on that partition hold the RedHAT/RPMS and
RedHat/base directories.
I select the FAT 16 partition and then no matter what I put in the
directory I get the message "Device hda5 does not appear to contain a
Red Hat installation tree". I've tried all kinds of permutations: / ;
/redhat ; \redhat ; \ etc... I can't remember what path I put in
when I first installed Linux but I'm sure I've tried it.
I have checked that the information is on the FAT 16 partition
When booted using a Win95 boot disk I looked at the directory structure
C:\REDHAT
with the base subdirectory below that. All looks OK. Total disk space
used about 500MB (the same as the CD-ROM)
I have also tried to use FTP.
This does not work. Although my FTP machine is running Windows 95. I
suspect that it doesn't recognize the file structure of a Windows 95
machine \ instead of / etc... The FTPdeamon is supplied as part of
Exceed 95.
Does anyone have any other suggestions (other than the obvious get a
CD-ROM drive)?
Am I putting in an incorrect directory for the Redhat install files?
Thanks
Stewart
[remove the #'s for my email address]
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From: Martin Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.protocols.smb,linux.samba,linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.hardware,alt.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: "no daemon present"? ... lpc> status
Date: 06 May 1999 12:06:09 +0200
"Bleh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Why does it says "no daemon present" for every single printer device? How
> do I start the "raw" device as a daemon?
As I understand it, this is okay as long as there are no entries.
HTH,
Martin.
--
Martin Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Uni Karlsruhe, Institut f. wissenschaftliches Rechnen u. math. Modellbildung
Engesser Str. 6, Karlsruhe
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: Shadow Passwords (KDE Screensavers need suid)
Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 06:45:18 GMT
David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Message from KDE:
>Your system uses shadow passwords!
Good.
>Please contact your system administrator.
>Tell him, that you need suid for the screensavers!
Correct. The file /etc/shadow can only be touched by SUID programs.
>I am my own system administrator. What the hell do I do?
You'll have to give the KDE screensaver the SUID bit.
>I know
>there is a simple command to fix this, but I can't remember what it
>is.
[...]
As root, do "chmod u+s <screensaver>" .
Don't know the name of the screensaver right now :)
Michael
--
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Lumber Cartel Unit #456 (TINLC) & Official Netscum
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonathan Thornburg)
Crossposted-To: comp.security.unix
Subject: Re: SUID games? What is RedHat doing?
Date: 6 May 1999 12:13:37 +0200
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Alan J Rosenthal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Not only games use svgalib. Zgv is not a game, and I believe that the
>current gnuplot (in redhat's distribution anyway (5.2)) requires svgalib.
There was a big firestorm over this in the gnuplot bug and beta mailing
lists, and more recent gnuplot versions do *not* include svgalib by
default, and do *not* install suid-root by default. Furthermore, there's
a fairly prominent security warning in the build process if you do
configure svgalib.
That said, anyone with an out-of-the-box Linux gnuplot should certainly
look and see if gnuplot (or anything else that's not security-safe) is
suid-root, and chmod -s it appropriate.
--
-- Jonathan Thornburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://www.thp.univie.ac.at/~jthorn/home.html
Universit�t Wien (Vienna, Austria) / Institut f�r Theoretische Physik
"The first strike in the American Colonies was in 1776 in Philadelphia,
when [...] carpenters demanded a 72-hour week." -- Anatole Beck
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Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 12:16:01 +0200
From: Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Benchmark software for Linux?
Mohd-Hanafiah Abdullah wrote:
>
> Is there a benchmark software to test Linux systems? Thanks for any tip.
>
> Napi
cat /proc/cpuinfo (see bogomips)
bonnie (HD benching)
rc5des from http://www.distributed.net/ (cracking DES & rc5-keys)
compile kernel
render a picture w/ povray
...
Marc Mutz
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From: "D. Vrabel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: bsd_tcp
Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 11:14:30 +0100
On Thu, 6 May 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Somehow I've managed to remove bsd_tcp from my system. Net result is an
> unresolved symbol error when I try to execute XF86Setup. Can anyone tell me
> what kernal mods are required or where bsd_tcp resides?
Is bsd_tcp a module? Do you have TCP/IP netorking compiled into the
kernel? X clients talk to the server using TCP which is why it is
required.
David
--
David Vrabel
Engineering Undergraduate at University of Cambridge, UK.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andres Kuusk)
Subject: RTF
Date: 6 May 1999 10:09:33 GMT
Hello, Everyone,
Who can recommend tools for reading RTF (rich text format) files in Linux?
Thanks!
Andres Kuusk
Tartu Observatory, Estonia
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.aai.ee/~andres
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: The Best Linux distribution? (was Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux)
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 09:34:53 GMT
In article <7grcr6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
o r c @ p e l l . p o r t l a n d . o r . u s (david parsons) wrote:
> Because you followed up before I did, and you were far more frothing
> than the previous poster was.
Fair 'nuf.
I'll try to be more patient before starting trouble next time. :)
-Bill Clark
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Przem Kowalczyk)
Subject: Re: How to switch VTs wben X is running?
Date: 6 May 1999 06:54:49 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ursa_M in comp.os.linux.misc wrote:
{cut}
>While I can switch out of X to another VT, on switching back I am not in X but
>just have the same kind of data left on the display as you see upon exiting X.
>That being said, there is no active prompt although you can type on the screen
>with no activity other than scrolling in evidence. I wound up killing off the X
>processes left open in this test and all seemed to be back to normal.
>
>How CAN you switch back into X???
X usually runs on 7. console (so you have to press Alt+F7, _not_ F6).
Przem
--
This here is the place I will be staying.
There isn't a number. You can call the pay phone.
R.E.M
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Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 12:44:16 +0200
From: "Braunstein Armin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Newsgroup-Reader for multipart-messages
Hi!
Where can i find a newsreader-program, which can handle multipart-messages
like the windows-program "Forte Agent"?
I want to save binaries from several newsgroups and most of the messages
have the following format: "Text (part/all)" ie. "test (1/12)"
thank's in advance
Armin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mohd-Hanafiah Abdullah)
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c,comp.unix.programmer
Subject: Stepping thru assembler codes in GDB (How?)
Date: 6 May 1999 18:02:13 +0800
How do I step through each of the assembler codes (after using disass) in
GDB? Thanks.
Napi
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mohd-Hanafiah Abdullah)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Benchmark software for Linux?
Date: 6 May 1999 18:07:26 +0800
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Mohd-Hanafiah Abdullah wrote:
>>
>> Is there a benchmark software to test Linux systems? Thanks for any tip.
>>
>> Napi
>
>cat /proc/cpuinfo (see bogomips)
>bonnie (HD benching)
>rc5des from http://www.distributed.net/ (cracking DES & rc5-keys)
>compile kernel
>render a picture w/ povray
>...
>
>Marc Mutz
Thanks. But I'm looking for something like WinBench from Ziff-Davis for
Windows95 or Speedometer for the Mac. Would be nice to have something like
this for Linux to test the overall system performance.
Napi
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (norton_ng)
Subject: Problem: Block on freelist at 008c8910 isn't free
Date: 5 May 1999 04:25:00 GMT
hi all,
I am running with Slackware linux 3.x , My linux box was
malfunctioned yesterday. I run BBS,Web server on my linux box,
it is always has an heavy load, about 20-30.
All the port was disabled except port 139 and port 80 yesterday,
i can telnet to it, the screen display
Problem: Block on freelist at 008c8910 isn't free
What is it mean?
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From: Mark Lo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.setup,linux.act.kernel,linux.redhat.misc,linux.sources.kernel
Subject: Re: Kernel 2.2.7
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 19:14:26 +0800
Steps to re-compile Kernel
1. cd /usr/src # goto the source directory
2. ls -o # check if a link 'linux->linux-2.0.36'
3. rm linux # remove it
4. tar zxpvf linux-2.2.7.tar.gz
5. ln -s linux-2.2.7 linux # make a new link.
6. cd linux
7. make menuconfig # change anything you want
8. make dep
9. make clean
10. make zImage
11. make modules
12. make modules_install
13. make install # if nothing run, do the following 13 to 20
13. cd arch/i386/boot
14. cp zImage /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.7
15. cp System.map /boot/System.map-2.2.7
16. cp modules-info /boot/modules-info-2.2.7
17. cd /boot
18. ln -s vmlinuz-2.2.7 vmlinuz
19. ln -s System.map-2.2.7 System.map
20. ln -s modules-info-2.2.7 modules.info
21. cd /etc
22. pico lilo.conf
23. find the line 'label=linux', change to 'label=linux20' # if new kernel fail,
type 'linux20' on boot
24. make one more set of lines for image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.7
25. /sbin/lilo
26. reboot
Good luck!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Zajic)
Subject: Re: Netscape 4.51 question
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 11:16:42 GMT
On Wed, 05 May 1999 16:26:47 +0000, Unclebob wrote:
> [ ... ]
> The best newsgroup reader, IMO, is Forte Inc's Agent.
> hope they port it to Linux, I would buy it in a heartbeat.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ... ;-)
Thomas
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: bsd_tcp
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 11:07:41 GMT
In article <7grkda$cem$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Somehow I've managed to remove bsd_tcp from my system. Net result is an
> unresolved symbol error when I try to execute XF86Setup. Can anyone tell me
> what kernal mods are required or where bsd_tcp resides?
If it is any comfort, I have a problem with this myself with the sybase
client library referencing bsd_tcp, and I have no idea where to look either.
- Petter
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From: Sellaro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Problems compiling Kernel 2.2.7
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 08:33:44 -0300
Hans Wolters wrote:
> There's the problem. Sorry but I can't fix it (not yet into assambler or c/c++
>
> For some reason there's a double definition. Vars can be declared once within a
> routine/class (correct me if I'm wrong).
>
Yeap, you're right. But, in fact, there is NO double definition in that file. There
are two DIFFERENT functions,
but, for some reason, the assembler truncates the name of one function and, as Murphy
said in his second law, section about Assembly Kernel Packages,
the assembler just thinks the function is double defined :)
But let this problem die... I think it's gone.
Thank you for the help.
--
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
"Eu sou um imortal. Nao tenho onde cair morto." - Olavo Bilac
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
Sellaro
Network and System Administrator
Computer Science Dept.
Federal University of Ceara - Brazil (UFC)
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From: mist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can't run ipfwadm commands from rc.firewall script???
Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 12:42:11 +0100
Reply-To: mist <new$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Bill@Linux1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribed to us that -
>I took the sample script for IP masquerading and saved it as rc.firewall.
>In my rc.local script, I call it. It is executing, as verified by "echo"
>commands placed in various parts of the scripts.
>
>However, when the script runs, masquerading doesn't work! If I enter the
>commands separately from the command line, it works perfectly.
>
>Any ideas on why? permissions are 700
>
Are you using absolute pathnames? I.E.
/usr/sbin/ipfwadm
rather than just
ipfwadm
?
If not, change that.
Then also don't forget to enable masquerading with that
echo 1> /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
or something similar.
--
Mist.
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From: mist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: netcfg and "no $DISPLAY variable"
Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 12:45:47 +0100
Reply-To: mist <new$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sander Wissing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribed to us that -
>Hi all,
>
>I am running RedHat, 2.0.31 kernel and can't run netcfg. I get a
>traceback ending in "no $DISPLAY variable". How do I set the
>$DISPLAY variable and what do I set it to?
>
>From a bash shell xterm, assuming you are running in X?
export DISPLAY=:0.0
You might want to upgrade your kernel, too. It's a bit old now.
--
Mist.
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From: "Rolf Marvin B�e Lindgren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Is Unix a single user operating system? (was: Wanted: Database/Contact
mgr with backend on Linux/FreeBSD, web frontend)
Date: 06 May 1999 13:56:54 +0200
[ Markus Wandel
| If you want more than two levels of user on Unix you have to fiddle
| with group privileges and I'd be the first to admit that it's
| confusing but people use them all the time and they do work, e.g. for
| a project-wide shared RCS repository.
I know it works. but I think it's clumsy, inelegant, and implemented
better in other operating systems.
(The Windows suite of operating systems I would _like_ to consider
zero-user, but I have no such luck, alas).
--
Rolf Lindgren http://www.uio.no/~roffe/
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hans Wolters)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Problems compiling Kernel 2.2.7
Date: 5 May 1999 21:29:01 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sellaro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> found a keyboard
and wrote the following ....
[snap]
>checksum.c
>checksum.c:204: redefinition of 'csum_partial_copy'
>checksum.c:109: 'csum_partial_copy' previously defined here
>{standard input}: Assembler messages:
>{standard input}:185: Fatal error: Symbol csum_partial_copy already
>defined.
There's the problem. Sorry but I can't fix it (not yet into assambler or c/c++
For some reason there's a double definition. Vars can be declared once within a
routine/class (correct me if I'm wrong).
[snap]
>I've already checked the file <kernel source>/Documentation/Changes and
>verified all the requirements to properly compile the new kernel. Here
>they are:
Don't look any further. Just take a look at kernel.org for an update. If there
isn't any then notify the developers.
[snap3]
Regards Hans Wolters
--
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http://home.gelrevision.nl/~h.wolter/
Linux Links/CMI8330 Soundpro HOWTO
http://home.gelrevision.nl/~h.wolter/linux.htm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Darren Winsper)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Date: 5 May 1999 21:17:10 GMT
On Wed, 05 May 1999 08:03:41 -0700, Andrew Carol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Intel will return a 'key' which is encrypted with the CPU's public key.
> Only that CPU can decode it and use it.
Great. So you upgrade your CPU, and your software stops working. Of
course, you can't boot into a working OS, because your CPU suddenly
can't execute the commands. What a wonderful future.
--
Darren Winsper
Do not put statements in the negative form.
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