Linux-Misc Digest #81, Volume #28                Sun, 10 Jun 01 22:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Linux Email Server (Neill Newman)
  Re: 2GB File size limitation (Betastar)
  Re: Linux Email Server (Robert Davies)
  help with ftp - newbie question ("Juan Riera")
  Re: hardware autodetection ("Paul E. Bennett")
  Re: Linux Email Server (Bob Hauck)
  Re: simple sendmail query (Bob Hauck)
  Re: /bin/login cannot be removed (John Hasler)
  Re: How to make a bootable FD for new kernel? (Dances With Crows)
  Re: 2GB File size limitation (Rinaldi J. Montessi)
  Re: See a man file (David Means)
  Re: The movie Swordfish and Linus Torvalds (Grant Edwards)
  where does ping come from? ("Tom Edelbrok")
  Re: gnu parted? (F. Heitkamp)
  Re: RH 7.1 Strangeness (Robert B. Love)
  Re: RH 7.1 Strangeness (Robert B. Love)
  Re: RPM question (Lamar Thomas)

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From: Neill Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Linux Email Server
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 00:06:58 +0100


I second that, we use Exim for SMTP, and Courier for POP3(s) and
IMAP(s). 
This supports virtual domains nicely...

HTH
Neill

Chiefy wrote:
> 
> 10 Jun 2001 19:32 UTC, Mike typed:
> > Looking for a good Linux Email server applicatoin. Anybody got a good
> > suggestion?
> 
> Exim is popular with ISP's here in the UK.
> 
> --
> Chiefy. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Betastar)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc,redhat.kernel.general
Subject: Re: 2GB File size limitation
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 23:04:35 GMT

On 10 Jun 2001 14:54:43 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Betastar) writes:
>> That's where I'm running into problems too - DNA sequence databases.
>
>Are you using Oracle by any chance? Oracle can easily be configured
>to store data in multiple datafiles. 

No - I am trying to download the databses from NCBI, which take over
2GB in space for some of the files just to download.  I can't get them
to the machine at all right now short of downloading to a Windoze
machine, splitting them up, and sending them to the Linux machine
afterwards.

>However, whichever way you look at it it will be a pain. You have my
>sympathy.

Thanks.  It is a pain.  And it's holding up my research something
awful right now.


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From: Robert Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Email Server
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 22:38:34 +0100

Vilmos Soti wrote:

> "Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>> Looking for a good Linux Email server applicatoin. Anybody got a good
>> suggestion?
> 
> What are your expectations?
> 
> The four best known are sendmail, exim, postfix, and qmail. The sites for
> them are www.name_of_server.org

He might well mean a POP3 or IMAP server rather than an MTA, in Win world 
it 
tends to all be done by Exchange.  In Linux you get to mix and match, and 
there are varying daemons, suiting different niches, depending on 
simplicity, 
power, security tradeoffs.

So Mike you have a choice, best decide what protocols you wish to serve, 
then 
type them in at google.com/linux and see what it comes up with.

Rob

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From: "Juan Riera" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: help with ftp - newbie question
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 00:48:11 +0200

Hello,
I know this is a very newbie question.
I have configured ftp access on my linux server using wu-ftpd
Users get access to their home directory.
I want them to access to an subdir (html) on their home dir and to prevent
going upwards and navigate to others directories.
how must I configure ftp server?
thanks!!! Juan




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Paul E. Bennett")
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: hardware autodetection
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 01 23:12:51 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
           [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Paul E. Bennett" writes:

> My dyslexic typing is showing again. Silicom is the card manufacturer.
> If anyone has web address/phone numbers I'd appreciate them.

Thanks to my friend Ewald Pfau, I now have this info.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Linux Email Server
Reply-To: bobh = haucks dot org
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 23:44:02 GMT

On Sun, 10 Jun 2001 15:05:31 -0700, Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > The four best known are sendmail, exim, postfix, and qmail. The sites for
> > them are www.name_of_server.org

> I am fairly new to Linux and need an Email Server that can handle virtual
> domains similiar to Sealtle Labs SL Mail for NT and Win 2k.

All of the ones he mentioned can do virtual domains.  You can combine
any of them with an imap and/or pop3 server (uw-imap, qpopper, cyrus,
etc) to get the full solution you are asking for.

Unix mail systems tend to give you a lot of options for mix-and-match.

-- 
 -| Bob Hauck
 -| To Whom You Are Speaking
 -| http://www.haucks.org/

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: simple sendmail query
Reply-To: bobh = haucks dot org
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 23:44:04 GMT

On Sun, 10 Jun 2001 21:13:06 -0400, Andy Rounds
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] goes to fred
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] goes to wilma
> and
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  goes to both fred and wilma

Assuming sendmail, in /etc/aliases:

family: fred,wilma

Make sure you do "newaliases" after changing it.

-- 
 -| Bob Hauck
 -| To Whom You Are Speaking
 -| http://www.haucks.org/

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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: /bin/login cannot be removed
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 22:17:25 GMT

Peter writes:
> His distro surely provides him with tools (tripwire? rpm? - does nayone
> kow what the debian equivalent is, if there is one?) that will check his
> installation for him.

The Debian equivalent of tripwire is, of course, tripwire.  Also of
interest may be debsums, which handles md5sums for installed packages.
-- 
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: How to make a bootable FD for new kernel?
Date: 10 Jun 2001 23:51:01 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sun, 10 Jun 2001 18:38:44 GMT, Tom Edelbrok staggered into the Black
Sun and said:
>I am building a new kernel but it doens't entirely boot right. I am
>thinking that this might be because I always boot from a floppy and I
>updated LILO to point to the noot bzImage, but there are other files on
>the floppy in /mnt/floppy/etc, /mnt/floppy/boot, etc, that I haven't
>changed.
>
>Can anyone tell me how to create a boot floppy for a new kernel version
>if you don't boot from the hard drive? What files need to be replaced
>on the boot floppy? I can't just do a mkbootdisk because I'm not
>operating on the new kernel until I make a boot-floppy for the new
>kernel first!

http://linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Bootdisk-HOWTO.html ?

The standard procedure is to do the following:

(insert blank floppy)
fdformat /dev/fd0h1440
mke2fs /dev/fd0
mount /dev/fd0 /floppy
cp /path/to/new/kernel/bzImage /floppy
cat << EOF >> /floppy/lilo.conf
boot=/dev/fd0
prompt
map=/floppy/map
timeout=100
append="whatever"   #replace with append= statements you use

image=/floppy/bzImage
   label=linux
   root=/dev/blah   # replace with your root device

EOF

/sbin/lilo -C /floppy/lilo.conf

And that's all there is to it.  Read the LILO documentation and the
aforementioned HOWTO for more info... and do think about booting from
the hard disk, it's much faster, less prone to floppy failure, and you
can do it even if you're running LoseNT/2K, just follow the directions.

-- 
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin /  Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best
http://www.brainbench.com     /   friend.  Inside of a dog, it's too dark
=============================/    to read.  ==Groucho Marx

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Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc,redhat.kernel.general
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rinaldi J. Montessi)
Subject: Re: 2GB File size limitation
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 23:54:49 GMT

Betastar wrote:

> On 10 Jun 2001 14:54:43 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Betastar) writes:
>>> That's where I'm running into problems too - DNA sequence databases.
>>
>>Are you using Oracle by any chance? Oracle can easily be configured
>>to store data in multiple datafiles. 
> 
> No - I am trying to download the databses from NCBI, which take over
> 2GB in space for some of the files just to download.  I can't get them
> to the machine at all right now short of downloading to a Windoze
> machine, splitting them up, and sending them to the Linux machine
> afterwards.
> 
>>However, whichever way you look at it it will be a pain. You have my
>>sympathy.
> 
> Thanks.  It is a pain.  And it's holding up my research something
> awful right now.

I'm posting something I read in this group a few days ago.  It may bear
on your problem.  If not please post back with why it doesn't help - or
why it does?

<Quote>

0.  The limitation is twofold and is not filesystem dependent.
1.  The limitation arises from the decision to store some things in
processor-native data types in kernel 2.2 and 2.0.
2.  The x86 architecture uses a 32-bit int for many things.
3.  Therefore, on older kernels on the x86 architecture, file size is
limited to the values you can store in a 32-bit signed int.
4.  Older glibc and all the programs linked against it inherit this
32-bit signed int limitation, leading to the 2G problem.  It never was a
problem on 64-bit architectures like Alpha and Sparc.

So, what can you do?  Upgrade the kernel to 2.4.5, recompile your glibc
against the new kernel, and recompile the applications you use against
this new glibc.  Then everything will use 64 bits for file sizes and
file position offsets, and you can have 2T files.

The fact that you're using RH 7.1 and having this problem surprises me.
We have a server running a stock RedHat 7.0 install, and just yesterday,
I created a 5G file on its disk.  No problems at all.  Check RedHat's
website, search for "large file", see what you find?  It would not
surprise me if there were a few RPMs you could download for large file
support.

(BTW, Jonas, ReiserFS has its own filesize limitation, but it's 4G.
ext2's limit is 2T.  Next time, make sure you know what you're talking
about before posting, OK?)

-- 
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin /  Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best
http://www.brainbench.com     /   friend.  Inside of a dog, it's too dark
=============================/    to read.  ==Groucho Marx

</Quote> 

Rinaldi
-- 
We all know Linux is great...it does infinite loops in 5 seconds.
--Linus Torvalds


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From: David Means <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: See a man file
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 20:24:05 -0400

nroff -man < [manpage]  | more

or 

groff -m mandoc -Tlatin1  [manpage] | less 

It's sooo intuitive, no?  ;-)

nroff is a front end to groff which is a front end to troff, which was
modeled after roff, which was modeled after RUNOFF.  troff stands for
'text run off', if memory serves correctly.  I don't know what groff
stands for (so don't ask) but I'm fairly certian the nroff stands for
'new run off'.  Anyway, it all comes from the days when a print job was
a 'run off' as in, "yo, Joe: run off a copy of this file, wouldja?"  And
wiola, the 'file' would 'run off' the printer.

Yes, that's more than you asked for (like, wowzers; when does that ever
happen these days?), but more than the other RTFM gods were willing to
spill from there ever so sacred finger tips!  So count yar blessings and
quit yer bitch'n, okay? 

LOL!  :-)


David



drsquare wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 9 Jun 2001 00:23:56 +0200, in comp.unix.questions,
>  ("Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
> 
> >In comp.os.linux.misc drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >>>Depending on your version of man, 'man ./cppp.1', 'man -l cppp.1', or
> >>>even just 'man cppp.1' might work.
> >
> >> On a slightly different subject, how do you convert a man file into a
> >> plain text file?
> >
> >Groan. This is a faq.
> 
> Are you sure? I've read the FAQ and nothing like this was mentioned.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: The movie Swordfish and Linus Torvalds
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 00:29:15 GMT

On Sat, 9 Jun 2001 13:12:59 -0400, Arctic Storm 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I just saw the movie Swordfish, and the movie has a computer
>hacker from Finland.  I missed the character's last name, but
>it starts with the letter T.  I guess it was an inside joke
>regarding Linus Torvalds.

Since the trailers look really, really awful, I'll wait till
it's on TV -- they maybe I'll watch to see if I can catch the
allusion.

-- 
Grant Edwards                   grante             Yow!  Civilization is
                                  at               fun! Anyway, it keeps
                               visi.com            me busy!!

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From: "Tom Edelbrok" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: where does ping come from?
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 00:58:06 GMT

My ping command has disappeared from Redhat Linux 6.0. Has always worked
fine. Where does it come from?

Tom



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (F. Heitkamp)
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 21:38:29
Subject: Re: gnu parted?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Michael Lee Yohe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
>
>> cryptic to use.  Is there a GUI 
>> frontend somewhere, preferably ncurses
>> based?
>
>
>Go to www.freshmeat.net and type "nParted" in the search box.
>

I tried nparted.  It wasn't very useful at all.  I was hoping
that it might be similar to partition magic, but probably not as 
refined. Parted seems to destroy any data in the partitions.  
That doesn't seem any better than fdisk.  I'm confused.

Fred





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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert B. Love )
Subject: Re: RH 7.1 Strangeness
Date: 11 Jun 2001 01:53:47 GMT

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Jeff S" wrote:
> I've discovered a workaround to that rp3 quirk.
> 
> Symptom: No visual indication that connection has been established, 
can't
> kill ppp.
> 
> Solution: Quit rp3 then start it up again (you may have to go through 
the
> motions of having it establish a connection). It should now recognize 
and
> properly display the connection status, and you should now be able to 
use
> it to kill the ppp connection.
> 
> Hope this helps

Well, its better in that I get graphical status of the connection but it 
still doesn't reliably disconnect.  

You got to wonder if RH only tested this as root.  Its quite frustrating 
to pay $$ for the CD version only to have it act it was from MS.  Ok, 
maybe that was over the top but it is frustrating.


--
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 Bob Love                                   
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]                            
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert B. Love )
Subject: Re: RH 7.1 Strangeness
Date: 11 Jun 2001 01:54:51 GMT

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ian Northeast wrote:
> "Robert B. Love" wrote:
> 
> > 2) Sendmail and boot up.  The boot up happens, daemons are started 
and
[deleted]
> 
> Ensure that the machine can resolve itself. Usually this means putting
> in an /etc/hosts entry for each of its interfaces.
> 

That did the trick.  Thanx.

--
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 Bob Love                                   
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]                            
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From: Lamar Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
linux.redhat.rpm,linux.redhat.install,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: RPM question
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 02:07:31 GMT

Lamar Thomas wrote:

> I am running RH 7.1 and I just downloaded an RPM named
> "horde-1.2.4-1rh7.src.rpm" and am trying to install it.  I issued the
> following command and got the following results:
>
> 1.  #  "rmp -Uvh  horde-1.2.4-1rh7.src.rpm"
> 1:horde   #################################### [100%]
> #
>
> 2.  #  "rpm -q horde"
> package horde is not installed
> #
>
> I get the same results after a reboot too.  Any know why the software is
> not installing?  Thanks for any help.
>
> Lamar

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Kennet 'Redhead' Nielsen wrote:

> On Sun, 10 Jun 2001, Lamar Thomas wrote:
>
> > I am running RH 7.1 and I just downloaded an RPM named
> > "horde-1.2.4-1rh7.src.rpm" and am trying to install it.  I issued the
> > following command and got the following results:
> >
> > 1.  #  "rmp -Uvh  horde-1.2.4-1rh7.src.rpm"
> > 1:horde   #################################### [100%]
> > #
>
> here use:
> rpm --rebuild  horde-1.2.4-1rh7.src.rpm
> then use:
> rpm -Uhv /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/horde-1.2.4-1rh7.i386.rpm
>
> > 2.  #  "rpm -q horde"
> > package horde is not installed
> > #
>
> this should now report it is installed..
>
> >
> > I get the same results after a reboot too.  Any know why the software
is
> > not installing?  Thanks for any help.
>
> It is installing, but since its the source package its just all the
> sources for it thats beeing installed.. and befor the system will
> recognise it, you need to compile it.
> If you dont wan't to use the rebuild flag you can use:
> rpm -bb /usr/src/redhat/SPECS/horde.spec
> after you installed the source package.. the .src.rpm reverals its the
> source.
>
> Kenneth
> --
> ---[ e ]--- -  --   -     -    -   - - -      -
> "A mind once stretched by a new idea never regains
> its original dimension."
>         --Oliver Wendell Holmes
> -         -    - - -  - -   - - - -- - ----[ http://www.redhead.dk. ]---

Hi Kennet,

Thanks for the info.  However, after I ran the command:  #  "rpm --rebuild
horde-1.2.4-1rh7.src.rpm" it didn't create the file
"horde-1.2.4-1rh7.i386.rpm".  I ran "updatedb" the "locate horde" and this
is
what it found:

/usr/src/redhat/RPMS/noarch/horde-1.2.4-1rh7.noarch.rpm
/usr/src/redhat/RPMS/noarch/horde-mysql-1.2.4-1rh7.noarch.rpm
/usr/src/redhat/RPMS/noarch/horde-pgsql-1.2.4-1rh7.noarch.rpm
/usr/src/redhat/RPMS/noarch/horde-shm-1.2.4-1rh7.noarch.rpm
/root/docs/download/horde
/root/docs/download/horde/horde-1.2.4-1rh7.src.rpm

Any ideas?  Thank for any and ALL help.

Lamar






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