Linux-Misc Digest #99, Volume #19 Fri, 19 Feb 99 16:13:07 EST
Contents:
Re: Always as root - is it dangerous? (Bill Unruh)
Web based Telnet client? ("Rob Dover")
setting the IRQ on the 3c589 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
.Tar/.gz question ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: .Tar/.gz question ("Richard Payne")
I like it the hard way 8-/ (2.2.1 on Slackware 3.5) ("A.G.")
Re: RedHat 5.2/ how to install/update ghostscript 4.03 to 5.10? (Bob Tennent)
test-please ignore ("tester")
Re: floating point accuracy on Linux? (Rob Komar)
Re: Linux jingle (Navindra Umanee)
Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (Jay O'Connor)
Re: recherche linux ("Mark Swope")
I like it the hard way 8-/ (2.2.1 on Slackware 3.5) ("A.G.")
Re: Compiling kernel, get errors ("Ryan C. Stallings")
Cyrix MII 333 and Linux (Jason Bowen)
kernel programming (Angelo Jerod Keresztes)
Re: HOW TO INSTALL A SCSI ZIP ON REDHAT5.2 ?? (Jose Urena)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: Always as root - is it dangerous?
Date: 19 Feb 1999 19:06:01 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
jansens_at_ibm_dot_net (Karel Jansens) writes:
>On Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:37:50, Nils Westerlund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>> I installed SuSE Linux 5.3 two days ago and I'm really impressed so far.
>> After ten years in MSWindows-environment there are some things that are
>> a bit confusing. Could it be "dangerous" to always log in as root? I
>> don't want to re-login or su everytime I want to mount a zip or
>> something like that, and therefore I always log in as root. How do you
>> guys usually do?
Almost all the tasks tht a user might want to do can be set up so that
an ordinary user can do them. Mounting drives-- put the user option on
the line in /etc/fstab, and make sure that the mount point has a+rwx
permission.
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From: "Rob Dover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Web based Telnet client?
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 11:07:42 -0800
Here is the problem. I am on one side of a firewall (which I have no control
over) that does not allow any telnet sessions to cross over. I administer a
Linux box that lives outside the firewall. It has both Telnet clients and an
Apache Web server running. I would like to link those 2 functions together
so that I can access the Telnet client through the web. If possible I would
like to be able to both administer the Linux box as well as use it to telnet
out to other machines.
Has this been done? Is it even possible?
Thanks -Rob-
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: setting the IRQ on the 3c589
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 19:03:57 GMT
hi-
can somebody tell me how to tell my 3c589 PCMCIA card to use a specific IRQ?
i'm working with a dell latitude ce and i can't use my net card when my cd-rom
is inserted, but it will work with my floppy drive. win98 works with it fine
when the IRQ of the card is set on 10, so i'm trying to get linux to do the
same.
any help will be greatly appreciated :)
thanks!
rk
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: .Tar/.gz question
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:54:42 GMT
I'm, you guessed it, a newbie to Linux, and for that matter, Unix. I have a
question about .tar and .gz files. What is the difference between .tar.gz
and a plain .tar file? I know they're compressed files, but is one an
executable?Will it install automatically upon decompression? Is there
something like Winzip (sorry) with a GUI that will handle these files? Maybe
a Linzip? hehe. I'm not afraid of the command line, but I have enough to
remember as it is, and at my age...
TIA
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From: "Richard Payne" <payner at timken dot com>
Subject: Re: .Tar/.gz question
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 14:32:01 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message <7ahnld$prf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I'm, you guessed it, a newbie to Linux, and for that matter, Unix. I have
a
>question about .tar and .gz files. What is the difference between .tar.gz
>and a plain .tar file? I know they're compressed files, but is one an
>executable?Will it install automatically upon decompression? Is there
>something like Winzip (sorry) with a GUI that will handle these files?
Maybe
>a Linzip? hehe. I'm not afraid of the command line, but I have enough to
>remember as it is, and at my age...
>
>TIA
gunzip (or gzip -d) is the command to uncompress these files. Some of the
desktops coming out now do have a GUI front end to this, at least I know
that
KDE does.
--
Rich Payne
(Speaking for myself, not my employer)
payner at timken dot com
Looking for Alpha-Linux info?
http://www.alphalinux.org
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From: "A.G." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.binaries.nospam.teenfeem.repost,alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: I like it the hard way 8-/ (2.2.1 on Slackware 3.5)
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 15:58:26 -0500
Hi all:
Got a pack of distributions from CheapBytes. Tried RH, and Caldera - Naaah!
not for me. Too easy. ;) They do everything for you, and place scipts in
non-standard places, assuming that the users won't dare to look for them. If
I wanted to rely on interactive utilitites with graphical interface, I
wouln't want to move from WindowsNT. :) (just kidding)
Slackware 3.5 won me in this respect. In two days I managed to upgrade
kernel to 2.0.36, replace egc with newest gcc, install new bash, etc. on
both of my computers (686 and 486). My main goal right now is to move to
2.2.1 since it's out there and my system is not fully configured yet
anyways. Going through the shopping-list, I am upgrading components and
having some problems along the way. For bandwidth conservation I posted
*entire* warning and error messages as text files at:
http://www3.sympatico.ca/genkin/glibc_warning.txt
http://www3.sympatico.ca/genkin/nettools_problems.txt
http://www3.sympatico.ca/genkin/procps_problems.txt
1. libc ./configure won't finish with warnings :
....
*** (g)msgfmt is too old or wrong version (need GNU gettext 0.10 or better).
....
checking installed Linux kernel header files... 2.0.10 or later
*** You should not compile the GNU libc without the `linuxthreads' and
*** `crypt' add-on. Not using them risks to be incompatible with the
*** libraries of other systems. Consider getting the add-ons and restart
*** the configuration.
....
2. nettools won't compile:
...
I/usr/src/net-tools-1.50 -idirafter /usr/src/net-tools-1.50/include -c
interface.c -o interface.o
interface.c:33: linux/if_ec.h: No such file or directory
In file included from interface.c:49:
/usr/src/net-tools-1.50/intl.h:5: libintl.h: No such file or directory
make[1]: *** [interface.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/net-tools-1.50/lib'
make: *** [subdirs] Error 2
3. proctools won't compile:
for dir in skill xproc ; do \
[ -f $dir/Imakefile ] && (cd $dir; xmkmf) ; done
mv -f Makefile Makefile.bak
imake -DUseInstalled -I/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config
imake: No such file or directory
imake: Cannot exec /lib/cpp.
Stop.
imake: Exit code 1.
Stop.
make: *** [config] Error 1
Any input would be very appreciated!
Arcady
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From: r d t@c s.q u e e n s u.c a (Bob Tennent)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: RedHat 5.2/ how to install/update ghostscript 4.03 to 5.10?
Date: 19 Feb 1999 19:48:03 GMT
On Fri, 19 Feb 1999 11:38:07 -0500, doug wrote:
> I'm having some problems in getting the newer (5.10) ghostscript
>package
>installed on my RedHat 5.2 system. It currently has 4.03 ghostscript. If
>I use rpm -i or rpm -u, the package is installed OK, but it breaks the
>printtool (i.e. in the filters menu there are only 2 selections instead
>of
>the normal many. it shows only postscript & plain text filters). If I
>try
>gs --version, it errors out with unable to open libraries.
If gs doesn't run, it clearly hasn't installed OK. This would explain
why there are no drivers available for printtool. gs -h should show
what's available.
If I then
>uninstall
>the package, and re-install the rpms from the 5.2 CD everything is fine.
>I'm installing the fonts, (gs/urw) & the latest printtool and
>printfilter
>packages. I've tried many combinations of the packages. It seems to me
>that it
>shouldn't be this hard, I mean I haven't had this type of trouble until
>this.
Which 5.10 rpm have you been trying to install? The rpms from
http://www.users.dircon.co.uk/~typhoon/html/ghostscript.html
are very good. If all else fails, get the source for 5.50 from
http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html
and compile your own.
Bob T.
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From: "tester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: test-please ignore
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 16:03:00 -0500
Sorry, but my posts seem not to be going through when cross-posted to
several NG's
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob Komar)
Subject: Re: floating point accuracy on Linux?
Date: 18 Feb 1999 19:46:12 GMT
Johan Kullstam ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob Komar) writes:
:
: afaik linux does not save/restore the fpu control word when it
: switches tasks. so you set it once and it will hit every process you
: have running. i think this was the motivation behind -ffloat-store --
: to avoid touching the floating point control word.
:
: i am not sure what happens in the case of SMP. perhaps you need to
: set it on each processor. if you set fpucw for 64 bit processing on
: the one cpu and the task is moved to a different one, you may lose.
:
: > Although I previously said `believe' because I wouldn't bet my life
: > on it, I'm actually very sure that the FPU control word is part of
: > each process's context. So, you only have to set it inside your
: > program, and the other processes will continue to use whatever
: > they were using.
:
: i do not think this is true.
To test this, I modified the original test program posted here
to loop many times, compiled two versions of it (one with default
FPU settings and one with 64-bit FPU mode), and ran the two
simultaneously, redirecting the output from each to two separate
files. top showed both running together, each using about 48.5%
of CPU. The one with default FPU settings always printed -5.5e-17
for `a-b*c', and the one set to 64-bit mode always printed out 0.0.
If the FPU were set globally, then I would expect the one that
explicitely set the FPU control word would determine how both
mostly behaved. Since they behaved differently even though running
simultaneously, it looks to me like the FPU control word was different
for each process.
Cheers,
Rob Komar
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From: Navindra Umanee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux jingle
Date: 18 Feb 1999 22:38:04 GMT
Matthias Warkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It was the 17 Feb 1999 10:58:35 GMT...
> ..and Navindra Umanee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Not exactly a jingle but SoundIt on Sunsite has a rather hilarious
>> "composition", invoke it with "demo2 < beat-2". There's also a techno
>> mp3 out there featuring mostly RMS but also a part by Linus, I have a
>> copy on my harddisk.
>
> Could you give me URLs?
Techno remix is here: http://linux.mit.edu/stallman/
soundIt is here:
http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/apps/sound/libs/soundIt0.03.tar.gz
Great stuff.
-N.
--
"These download files are in Microsoft Word 6.0 format. After unzipping,
these files can be viewed in any text editor, including all versions of
Microsoft Word, WordPad, and Microsoft Word Viewer." [Microsoft website]
< http://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~navindra/editors/ >
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From: Jay O'Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 13:45:04 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Marco Anglesio wrote:
>
> On Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:26:51 -0500, St�phane Brunet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >Darwinianism especially implies reproduction...
> >and SUV drivers have WAY LESS SEX than sports car drivers - it's a fact.
> >SUV's and MiniVans are a waste - they should be recycled.
>
> Come on. If you're going to fork out for a minivan, chances are that
> you've already had plenty of sex :).
Agreed!!!!!
Also, a minivan is a great stealth vehicle.
You can be up on the sidewalk hitting pedestrians in a minivan and the
cops will never look twice...
>
> That said, SUV's and muscle cars share the dubious distinction of being
> surrogate penises, especially for men undergoing their midlife crisis.
>
> (followups reset).
>
> m.
>
Take care,
--
===================================
Jay O'Connor
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.roadrunner.com/~joconnor
http://www.ezboard.com
"God himself plays the bass strings first when He tunes the soul"
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From: "Mark Swope" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: recherche linux
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 14:36:37 -0600
I may be misunderstanding what you're requesting
(I don't speak French). However, you may
wish to look at:
www.linuxhq.com
www.metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/docs
mas
abg424 wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Bonjour,
>Je suis � la recherche de sites int�ressants pour m'aider >a d�buter sur
>linux.
>merci.
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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From: "A.G." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: I like it the hard way 8-/ (2.2.1 on Slackware 3.5)
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 15:46:43 -0500
Hi all:
Got a pack of distributions from CheapBytes. Tried RH, and Caldera - Naaah!
not for me. Too easy. ;) They do everything for you, and place scipts in
non-standard places, assuming that the users won't dare to look for them. If
I wanted to rely on interactive utilitites with graphical interface, I
wouln't want to move from WindowsNT. :) (just kidding)
Slackware 3.5 won me in this respect. In two days I managed to upgrade
kernel to 2.0.36, replace egc with newest gcc, install new bash, etc. on
both of my computers (686 and 486). My main goal right now is to move to
2.2.1 since it's out there and my system is not fully configured yet
anyways. Going through the shopping-list, I am upgrading components and
having some problems along the way. For bandwidth conservation I posted
*entire* warning and error messages as text files at:
http://www3.sympatico.ca/genkin/glibc_warning.txt
http://www3.sympatico.ca/genkin/nettools_problems.txt
http://www3.sympatico.ca/genkin/procps_problems.txt
1. libc ./configure won't finish with warnings :
....
*** (g)msgfmt is too old or wrong version (need GNU gettext 0.10 or better).
....
checking installed Linux kernel header files... 2.0.10 or later
*** You should not compile the GNU libc without the `linuxthreads' and
*** `crypt' add-on. Not using them risks to be incompatible with the
*** libraries of other systems. Consider getting the add-ons and restart
*** the configuration.
....
2. nettools won't compile:
...
I/usr/src/net-tools-1.50 -idirafter /usr/src/net-tools-1.50/include -c
interface.c -o interface.o
interface.c:33: linux/if_ec.h: No such file or directory
In file included from interface.c:49:
/usr/src/net-tools-1.50/intl.h:5: libintl.h: No such file or directory
make[1]: *** [interface.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/net-tools-1.50/lib'
make: *** [subdirs] Error 2
3. proctools won't compile:
for dir in skill xproc ; do \
[ -f $dir/Imakefile ] && (cd $dir; xmkmf) ; done
mv -f Makefile Makefile.bak
imake -DUseInstalled -I/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config
imake: No such file or directory
imake: Cannot exec /lib/cpp.
Stop.
imake: Exit code 1.
Stop.
make: *** [config] Error 1
Any input would be very appreciated!
Arcady
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From: "Ryan C. Stallings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Compiling kernel, get errors
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:53:59 -0600
It's trying to tell you the kernel you compiled is too big. You need to use make
bzImage (that compresses the kernel more), and perhaps compile things in as modules
(i.e. not into the kernel itself so it can be smaller).
Hope this helps,
Ryan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason Bowen)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips
Subject: Cyrix MII 333 and Linux
Date: 18 Feb 1999 18:31:06 GMT
First off what is the clock speed of this chip i.e. bus speed and
multiplier settings. Is anybody running Linux on one of these and what
are your experiences? Does anybody know why cyrix is up to? Supposedly a
350 rated chip was going to come out but never did. Do the current 333's
use a .25 micron etch size?
--
even if the voices aren't real they have some good ideas...
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From: Angelo Jerod Keresztes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: kernel programming
Date: 18 Feb 1999 20:37:51 GMT
Hello, the names angelo, and I have been using Debian Linux 2.2 for some time
now. I recently purchased a diamond monster sound card, which sounds really
nice in WINDOWS, unfortunately, I haven't been able to find a driver for linux,
and haven't heard of one being made.
I do know that it uses the same co/dec as the ensonic's pci sound card, i do
not recall the model off hand.
anyways, I was considerring writing a driver for this thingy, since there's
already an xserver for my banshee video card, but when looking at the source,
there's very little documentation inside it, and Im having a rough time finding
anything on the net about approaching this beast called the kernel.
I am pretty experienced with C/C++ , (im better in dos though) , so it's not as
though im jumping completely head first :). I just wonderred if there was a
resource on the net that would help
thanx
angelo
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From: Jose Urena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HOW TO INSTALL A SCSI ZIP ON REDHAT5.2 ??
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 14:39:47 -0500
1.check termination
2.Your scsi controller BIOS might have a place to select the first boot disk
for some reason it is trying the zip before the fix disk
3. I am not sure, but I think I read that the SCSI priority is higher with
respect to the SCSI ID.
A higher number is tested before a lower number.
I could be wrong, but try changing your fix disk ID with the ID of the Zip
Christophe Brajon wrote:
> Bonjour,
> Hi,
>
> I have Redhat 5.2 and I want to install a iomega zip (SCSI).
> The zip is OK and well detected by linux but the system tries to read or
>
> boot from the zip in place of the harddisk.
> So I get a kernel panic.
>
> The problem is: Linux attributes to the zip disk a wrong filesystem
> name:
> "sda" which is the name of my main filesystem where is all Linux so lilo
>
> trie to boot on the zip disk!!
> It must be "sdb" but I do not know how to do this.
>
> I tried to change the SCSI id ( from 6 to 5) of the zip but it is worse:
>
> the hard disk (SCSI)is not even detected!
>
> Thank you for your help.
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