Linux-Misc Digest #132, Volume #19 Sun, 21 Feb 99 21:13:15 EST
Contents:
How manipulate web site from script? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Explanation of Apache process and socket handling??? (Glenn & Sherry Butcher)
can non longer mount VFAT (or MSDOS) partitions (Rob Fisher)
named: Lame server (xcitor)
Re: how do I change resolution? (Andri Saar)
Re: glibc-2.1 and ld.so (Frank Sweetser)
Re: KDE? Gnome? ... confused (Jim McCusker)
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (brian moore)
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Alan McLean)
redhat 5.0 -> 5.2 (Natanael Copa)
linux commmands (Natanael Copa)
Re: Image Viewer Applications (Michael)
Re: gcc or egcs use pentium instructions? (Johan Kullstam)
Re: Possible problems with kernel 2.2.1 (Sam Vere)
Re: X server for Windows NT (Andrew Rothstein)
Re: Linux programming book (Gene Wilburn)
Re: glibc-2.1 and ld.so (Juergen Heinzl)
Re: Firewall with 1 IP (Luca Filipozzi)
Re: linux commmands (xcitor)
Re: KDE? Gnome? ... confused (Richard Steiner)
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Richard Steiner)
Virtual NT Machine within Linux (VMWare) (Richard Steiner)
Re: linux sucks, windows is cool, lets get a million posts to my juvenile arguments
!!!! (Richard Steiner)
IntraStore Server 2000 (Jeff Grossman)
Re: Always as root - is it dangerous? (Jim Richardson)
linux:: pppd daemon died unexpectedly? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: How manipulate web site from script?
Date: 21 FEB 1999 23:30:26 GMT
Gentlemen(persons?):
I am interested in writing an application that
will manipulate a web site (eg an internet-based stock broker like
Etrades or Datek).
The objective is to do (very simple) programmed stock trading.
My hope is that by logging into the site with a browser
as usual, then starting my application from the browser,
I can access the features of the site from my application.
(Eg, extract a quote on a set of stocks every 5 minutes, and kick off
an order if certain conditions are met.)
My application has to look to the server like a user
typing and clicking.
After some serious effort at digging through the net I'm still confused
about what's the cleanest way to do this. My background
is Fortran, C, and a little Perl. Running linux, so I
have access to a zillion other tools also -- just don't know
which ones I need.
So far, I've tried using a perl CGI script with Net::SSLeay
but with no luck. I tried:
Log in as usual
Pop up another netscape window
Go to my server; click on a link which runs a CGI perl script
that looks like so --
#!/usr/bin/perl
use Net::SSLeay;
use CGI qw/:standard/;
($p)=Net::SSLeay::get_https("server_I'm already_logged_into", 443, "/");
print header('text/html'),
$p;
This gives me not what I expect but a message that access is denied.
This works with other (unprotected) URL's, so I suspect
some sort of handshake is missing.
I would appreciate a clue.
Thanks --
Steve
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From: Glenn & Sherry Butcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Explanation of Apache process and socket handling???
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 11:13:43 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This is how it works. Each process blocks on an accept() call to the
same port; when a browser calls connect(), the server's tcp manager
passes the connection to the first accept() in it's queue for that port.
Glenn Butcher
David Sisk wrote:
(snip,)
> 2) OR, does each child process listen for a connection request from a
> browser, then connect to the browser, do the work and disconnect? If so,
> how does this work? Can more than one process listen for a connection
> request on the same socket name?
(snip.)
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From: Rob Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: can non longer mount VFAT (or MSDOS) partitions
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 23:09:06 +0000
Hi all,
I've got a new hard drive (Quantum Fireball, 6.4Gb) and I've fdisked and
formatted it so it contains three partitions: windows95, Slackware Linux
, and Solaris x86.
When I tried to mount my windows partition from Linux as I always used
to, (with mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt) it complained along the lines
of:
Transaction block size = 512
VFS: Can't find a valid MSDOS filesystem os dev 03:01
you must specify a filesystem type
I can mount the same fs perfectly well from Solaris. The only thing I
think muight be different is that I told the BIOS to use LBA on the new
disk - I don't remember whether or not the old machine was set up that
way. Would that matter??
I'm using a 2.0.29 kernel at the moment. (That's what's on my install CD
- I'll upgrade to 2.2.1 again when I get this sorted.)
Any help gratefully received,
Rob
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (xcitor)
Subject: named: Lame server
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 18:10:19 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I know what the error means, but what I don't understand is what my
nameserver is doing to generate this message:
Feb 21 18:08:32 axel named[225]: Lame server on `moon.jic.com' (in
`JIC.com'?): [128.8.10.90].53 `D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET'
Any ideas?
--
You will be audited by the Internal Revenue Service.
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Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 22:12:01 +0200
From: Andri Saar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.x,linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat.rpm
Subject: Re: how do I change resolution?
TomWolf wrote:
>
> I have just installed redhat 5.2 but I cant open xwindows because I got the
> wrong resolution. How do I change the resolution?
> Please email me the answere at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Wtih love and respect
> Tom
run Xconfigurator
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From: Frank Sweetser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: glibc-2.1 and ld.so
Date: 21 Feb 1999 18:32:12 -0500
Andreas Jaeger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >>>>> Frank Sweetser writes:
>
> Frank> Jamie Lokier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> Heeh, Netscape still loads libc5 _and_ libc6!
>
> Frank> doubtful. note that ldd from glibc tends to give bogus results for libc5
> Frank> binaries. instead, use
>
> Frank> strace <proggie> 2>&1 | grep open
>
> Frank> to see what libraries it's really opening up and using.
>
> ldd is fixed in glibc 2.1 and will report the right libraries.
cool! now, any idea when the political issues mentioned on ftp.gnu.org re
glibc2.1 will be ironed out? :P
--
Frank Sweetser rasmusin at wpi.edu fsweetser at blee.net | PGP key available
paramount.ind.wpi.edu RedHat 5.2 kernel 2.2.1 i586 | at public servers
Norm: Gentlemen, start your taps.
-- Cheers, The Coach's Daughter
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From: Jim McCusker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat.rpm
Subject: Re: KDE? Gnome? ... confused
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 15:41:23 -0500
Bill Polhemus wrote:
>
> Paul Taylor wrote:
>
> > I'm currently using fvwm95, AfterStep and enlightenment
> > window managers, with and without Gnome; I haven't decided which
> > combination I like best, but that doesn't make any difference to the
> > applications I am
> > running.
>
> Is there ANY WAY for a rank novice to catch up on this jargon? You have to
Yes, it's very easy. You just have to remember that just abot very
single piece of linux software can and will play nice with other linux
software.
> remember that you've got folks like me, coming from the other PC GUIs (where
> you really didn't have a choice, you got the GUI you were stuck with--yeah, pun
> intended).
I remember having that initial confusion myself.
> For instance, up till just a few days ago, I thought X Windows was a GUI, then
> discovered that, no, it is an "environment" on top of which you can run any of
> several window managers/desktop environments, etc. So, then, you can use KDE or
> GNOME or AfterStep (which I assume from the name, is a "NextStep" clone). Now
> you're saying "AfterStep" with and without Gnome...
>
> To me, it's a mass of confusion. Anyone got a website handy that explains this
> sort of thing to us newbies?
Yes, I just made one. It's at http://cif.rochester.edu/~fprefect/linux
HTH,
Jim
--
Jim McCusker | Class of '99, BA Computer Science & Cognitive Science
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://cif.rochester.edu/~fprefect
~Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it,
poorly.~
~~Henry
Spencer
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Date: 21 Feb 1999 23:58:41 GMT
On 21 Feb 1999 22:06:41 GMT,
John S. Dyson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> Ahhh... Of course not... Red Hat got the GPLed goods gratis, and is
> using the code (works) to fuel their business. The argument that I have
> is that there is not effective money flow back to the developer,
> because the GPL model doesnt' support that in a direct (and IMO
> honest) way.
And how does the BSD model do that? Does BSDI send you a check for
every copy of BSDI sold? Does Walnut Creek give you a percentage of
every CD sold? How about the code that is duplicated in the NetBSD and
OpenBSD trees: do they share their revenue with you?
> The developer is (sometimes, when they are lucky) an
> hourly worker, with support companies mis-selling their time as
> support. Most of the time, they are a new developer, feeling
> their oats, thinking that THEY can do it right, and thier labor
> is given away free. :-(. The people on the ends of the foodchain
> (the Linus' and the RedHats') make their reputations, and do their
> IPO's or whatever. Contributions to the endpieces need not apply
> as support of development.
Again, how does this differ from BSD licenses?
> In the GPL framework, the little developer with the great idea has
> NO leverage.
Sure they do: the initial developer gets to set the rules.
> Sharing is always "fair" to the recipient.
John, you're really not doing well to convince anyone of your world view
here.
You're coming off as a pompous fool with a contradictory and
nonsensicial argument. You complain about others making what you claim
are ad hominem arguments, then you follow it with calling them
"childish" and saying that "anyone with a brain" could follow your
logic.
Your logic is contradictory, John.
Why don't you go lobby Walnut Creek to start paying you royalties for
BSD. Or will you continue to let them profit unfairly from your work?
You're either a hypocrite or a fool.
--
Brian Moore | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | a cockroach, except that the cockroach
Usenet Vandal | is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
Netscum, Bane of Elves. Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alan McLean)
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 00:30:21 GMT
John S. Dyson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <WQZz2.383$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alan McLean) writes:
> >
> > Many use the GPL because it encourages intellectual sharing,
> > "symbiosis" as it was put.
> >
> So do free licenses.
Other free licenses may allow sharing, but they do not
"encourage" it. This is the focus of the GPL.
> > Many developers who use the GPL are not anti-capitolism.
> > They are not prevented from using their _own_work_ in other
> > endeavors. The GPL enables participation in intellectual
> > sharing with others, while preventing some from exploiting
> > the work unfairly.
> >
> It is apparent that GPL is anti capital (in the sense of
> the fruits of software development.) If you want to keep
You a making a false assumption about the intent of those
who use the GPL. They are not doing it to make capitol,
they are doing it to share ideas with those who are
interested in sharing. At the same time, they are still
able to use _their_work_ to make capitol in other endeavors
if they wish.
> people from developing derived goods from the work, why do
> you tease them with tainted goods (in the sense of
> intellectual property)?
Again, is it bad for me to share ideas with those who
are interested in sharing?
If a developers work is of enough value that some want to
profit from a closed version, they can always contact
the developer to come to a mutual agreement, right.
Here both benefit, instead of just the deriver.
> throwing their development capital away on it.) It is the
> people at the endpoints who win from GPL, not the development
> community.
This assumes again that the developers who use the GPL are
using it to make capitol. They are not.
> In fact, they (developers) are being exploited by those at the
> ENDS of the foodchain, like Linus (by name), support ($$$)
> companies, and wrote code duplicators. Anyone with a half
> a brain sees that.
You have made the point in several threads now about how
others have made personal attacks on you. I side with
you here, if someone has made a valid point, it is
not necessary for them to attack or insult.
Yet, here you contradict yourself again.
-amcl
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From: Natanael Copa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: redhat 5.0 -> 5.2
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 00:34:31 +0000
Hi all!
finally i got a linux destribution. RedHat 5.0....
What is the main difference between RedHat 5.0 and RedHat 5.2?
Is there som easy way to update my RedHat without buying a new CD?
I have been at www.redhat.com but i could find. (did i miss something?)
Natanael
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From: Natanael Copa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: linux commmands
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 00:41:00 +0000
Hi all!
I'm pretty new with unix think. I have spent hours with FAQ's and
HOWTO's.
But I cant find things like:
How to check free disk space on filesystem (like dos chkdsk. or just the
dir command...)
how do i turn my computor off? Now I use "reboot" or just ctrl-alt-del
and wait until linux is shut down and turn it off before lilo restarts.
I'm shure there is a better way...
Where can I find easy things like that? is there any overview list with
the commads and a short description what they do? (for more details I
can see the 'man' pages, i know)
thanks!
Nat
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael)
Subject: Re: Image Viewer Applications
Date: 22 Feb 1999 00:07:31 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 16 Feb 1999 05:44:50 +0000, Steve D. Perkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Kind of a silly question, I know... but does anyone know of a Linux
>image viewer application that is similar to ACDSee for Windows95, able
>to run slideshows and change images using the arrow keys instead of
>clicking on the filename with the mouse?
>
>Steve
>
Steve,
There is a program called GTKsee that looks exactly
like ACDSee and works "almost" the same way. There
are two versions as far as I know. One is statically
linked and the other is not. I tried the statically
linked one because the other one said I didn't have
the proper libraries installed (RH 5.2). It seems
a little buggy still. Takes forever to initialize
a directory and when it was done the file list
was blank with no scrollbars, however if I clicked
on a line the image would appear in the preview.
Anyway you might try it, might work better for you
As for me I'm still looking for a fast image viewer
for X.
mike
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Subject: Re: gcc or egcs use pentium instructions?
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 20 Feb 1999 16:03:06 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto) writes:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Seth Van Oort wrote:
> > Thanks. Does default installation have the compiler using these
> > instructions where appropriate or do you have to configure it a specific
> > way or just pass flags at compile time.
>
> The default depends on how the compiler was configured (at build time),
> and can be altered with flags like "-m586" and "-march=pentium". See
> the compiler's "info" pages.
i just hacked the gcc spec file to give -march=pentiumpro by default.
--
Johan Kullstam [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Don't Fear the Penguin!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam Vere)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Possible problems with kernel 2.2.1
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 00:50:41 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 21 Feb 1999 00:37:34 +0000, Steve Gage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Sam Vere wrote:
>
>> Okay, two things here:
>>
>> Firstly, the kernel sound support for the Ensoniq AudioPci appears not
>> to work for .au files. Any ideas?
>>
>> Second, when trying to use the printer I get a 'lpq waiting to print.
>> Printer offline?' message. Am I missing something here?
>
>I suspect you didn't read the CHANGES file. If you had, you would have
>learned that under kernel 2.2.x, lp designations shift around. In my
>case, my lp0 became lp1. Just fire up printtool and make the change.
That would explain it. Where did lp1 go?
>
>- Steve
<-------------------REMOVE SPAMTO TO DIRECT REPLY------------------->
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| The Varaiyah Cycle
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Rothstein)
Subject: Re: X server for Windows NT
Date: 20 Feb 1999 21:43:39 GMT
comp.os.linux... ?
Exceed works flawlessly for me.
It is by Hummingbird Ltd.
Drew
Theo van der Merwe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Where can I find a good X server for Windows NT?
: Thanks in advance for your help.
: Best regards,
: Theo ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
--
Andrew Rothstein - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Words of Wisdom :
"Whatever you do, just take care of your shoes." --phish
"He who laughs last, thinks slowest." --sign in jersey
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From: Gene Wilburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux programming book
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 01:25:41 GMT
If this is the Wrox book: Beginning Linux Programming by Neil Matthew
and Richard Stones, it is excellent.
Gene
Mark Robinson wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I was thinking of ordering Linux Programming from Cheapbytes. Is the
> book any good? Are there better books?
--
===================================================================
Gene Wilburn, Northern Journey Online, http://www.interlog.com/~njo
===================================================================
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: glibc-2.1 and ld.so
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 01:11:17 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Frank Sweetser wrote:
>Andreas Jaeger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> >>>>> Frank Sweetser writes:
>>
>> Frank> Jamie Lokier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> >> Heeh, Netscape still loads libc5 _and_ libc6!
>>
>> Frank> doubtful. note that ldd from glibc tends to give bogus results for libc5
>> Frank> binaries. instead, use
>>
>> Frank> strace <proggie> 2>&1 | grep open
[...]
>cool! now, any idea when the political issues mentioned on ftp.gnu.org re
>glibc2.1 will be ironed out? :P
No problem, since you are the glibc-2.1 is on many mirrors around the
world, no need to wait until that nonsense is over. Is it just I who hears
Billy laughing in his dreams ?
Happy Hacking,
Juergen
--
\ Real name : J�rgen Heinzl \ no flames /
\ EMail Private : [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ send money instead /
\ Phone Private : +44 181-332 0750 \ /
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Luca Filipozzi)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Firewall with 1 IP
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 13:53:31 -0800
In article <7an874$dsm$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
says...
>
>
> - My ISP has asigned me 1 static IP.
> - I have a LAN, and 3 NT Web servers on it that I want to make available to
> Inet with 192.168.X.X IPs.
>
> - I want to put a Linux RedHat 5.2 based firewall before the LAN.
>
> Would it be possible with just 1 IP, maybe with IP Masquerading or should I
> ask for a Class C Network?
>
> -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
> http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
>
You don't need to ask for a Class C. You can do *nearly* everything you
could possibly want with a masquerading Linux firewall, port forwarding,
and proxies.
--
Luca Filipozzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (xcitor)
Subject: Re: linux commmands
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 20:29:56 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 22 Feb 1999 00:41:00 +0000,
Natanael Copa wrote
from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>Hi all!
>
>I'm pretty new with unix think. I have spent hours with FAQ's and
>HOWTO's.
>
>But I cant find things like:
>
>How to check free disk space on filesystem (like dos chkdsk. or just the
>dir command...)
`df` - `man df` for more information.
>how do i turn my computor off? Now I use "reboot" or just ctrl-alt-del
>and wait until linux is shut down and turn it off before lilo restarts.
>I'm shure there is a better way...
`sync ; sync ; sync; halt`
>Where can I find easy things like that? is there any overview list with
>the commads and a short description what they do? (for more details I
>can see the 'man' pages, i know)
Running Linux might be a good start:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ats-query/002-8857205-5639000
or:
http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP/ldp.html
There are many good documents available there.
--
Those who can, do; those who can't, write.
Those who can't write work for the Bell Labs Record.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat.rpm
Subject: Re: KDE? Gnome? ... confused
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 19:17:42 -0600
Here in comp.os.linux.misc, Bill Polhemus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
spake unto us, saying:
>Why not persuade the folks at IBMS PSP (Personal Software Products, or
>whatever name they go by these days; they're in Austin, Texas) to port
>OS/2's Presentation Manager to Linux!?!?
It's the WorkPlace Shell and their Virtual DOS Machine technology that
I'd want the most. PM might be a prerequisite for the WPS, I dunno.
--
-Rich Steiner >>>---> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>---> Bloomington, MN
OS/2 + Linux (Slackware+RedHat+SuSE) + FreeBSD + Solaris + BeOS +
WinNT4 + Win95 + PC/GEOS + MacOS + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven!
I love contradictions. Don't you hate them too?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 18:55:30 -0600
Here in comp.os.linux.misc, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John S. Dyson)
spake unto us, saying:
>It would be a *wonderful* project to have an unbiased and non-idealogical
>site on the various licenses and terms. Not only should the first order
>effects be explained, but subsequent effects on other redistributors and
>programmers. Also, a legal clarification of derived works and how
>various licenses affect the derived works would be really cool.
I *STRONGLY* agree!! It's becoming more difficult to keep track of the
various options, I think, now that we're starting to see more and more
commercial companies creating their own "open source" licenses.
As a non-lawyer who plays with code both professionally and on my free
time, I believe that such a site could be extremely useful for me.
>If non-idealogical sites would have information, then more sides of the
>argument would be provided. This is NOT a BSD vs. GPL issue, but has
>LOTS more dimensions, and also has impact on the future of programming,
>and how it is paid for.
Yes, it's a lot more than just BSD versus GPL.
Those two licenses are just the two which are in most common use, and
while I think that particlar debate illustrates some very interesting
differences in priorities, those two are not the only licenses out
there by any means.
--
-Rich Steiner >>>---> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>---> Bloomington, MN
OS/2 + Linux (Slackware+RedHat+SuSE) + FreeBSD + Solaris + BeOS +
WinNT4 + Win95 + PC/GEOS + MacOS + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven!
...but I'm feeling much better now!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Subject: Virtual NT Machine within Linux (VMWare)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 19:14:07 -0600
Here in comp.os.linux.misc, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve mcadams)
spake unto us, saying:
>[Posted & mailed, snipped, quoted is ">"]
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ronald Hands) wrote:
>
>> Interesting story in many newspapers this week, reporting that IBM has
>>decided to begin adding Linux to its Netfinity servers -- the ones that
>>already come configured with NT.
>> *That* should stir things up.
>
>Frankly I'm hoping that in the next 12-18 months IBM will announce a
>virtual machine system that will simultaneously run Linux, NT, OS/2,
>and any other system you care to write.
The folks at VMWare are doing something along those lines:
http://www.vmware.com
Although I've been told that support for OS/2 is not planned at this
time, apparently doe to some technical issues. Not that you care, but
I certainly do. :-(
>It would be very cool if I could run Linux and NT simultaneously on
>the same box and switch back and forth via some keystroke.
See my above site link. Is it worth $300 to you? :-)
--
-Rich Steiner >>>---> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>---> Bloomington, MN
OS/2 + Linux (Slackware+RedHat+SuSE) + FreeBSD + Solaris + BeOS +
WinNT4 + Win95 + PC/GEOS + MacOS + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven!
Heaven for climate, Hell for society - Twain
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Subject: Re: linux sucks, windows is cool, lets get a million posts to my juvenile
arguments !!!!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 19:24:41 -0600
Here in comp.os.linux.misc, "JACK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake unto us, saying:
> why is it that when someone posts a rediculous argument as to why
>windows is great and linux is crap. that there is a million posts in reply.
In the comp.os.linux.* newsgroups (which likely have tends of thousands
of readers, or perhaps more), I think it's unreasonable to expect zero
replies to such messages. That would be optimal, but things happen.
> sorry to be preachy but when you pay 3p per min to connect to the
>internet its a pain in the arse to have to download this troll!
Ouch! Maybe you need to set up better Usenet filters?
--
-Rich Steiner >>>---> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>---> Bloomington, MN
OS/2 + Linux (Slackware+RedHat+SuSE) + FreeBSD + Solaris + BeOS +
WinNT4 + Win95 + PC/GEOS + MacOS + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven!
"The more RAM you have, the better" -- M. Chambers
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeff Grossman)
Subject: IntraStore Server 2000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 21:58:43 GMT
Has anybody used IntraStore Server 2000? I see it is free for Linux
users with less than 250 users. I was thinking of loading it but
would like some feedback first.
Thanks,
Jeff
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Jeff Grossman ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Subject: Re: Always as root - is it dangerous?
Date: 22 Feb 1999 01:34:18 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 20 Feb 1999 04:47:35 +0100,
Desmond Coughlan, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
brought forth the following words...:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh) writes:
>
>[snip]
>
>> Almost all the tasks tht a user might want to do can be set up so that
>> an ordinary user can do them. Mounting drives-- put the user option on
>> the line in /etc/fstab, and make sure that the mount point has a+rwx
>> permission.
>
>Yes, but can't that user then *u*mount the drive?
>--
>Desmond Coughlan |Restez zen ... Linux peut le faire
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[website under construction]
Only give the user flag to the floppy, cdrom etc. It's not an all or
nothing thing.
--
Jim Richardson
Anarchist, pagan and proud of it
WWW.eskimo.com/~warlock
Linux, because life's too short for a buggy OS.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: linux:: pppd daemon died unexpectedly?
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 21:41:10 GMT
I have had some trouble with connecting to internet with linux. In XWindows I
used XISP
dialer, but when it connects, it immediately disconnects again. So I have
installed KDE.
When I use their dialer, the following hapens:
ATZ
OK
ADTD......
CARRIER 9600
PROTOCOL:LAP-M
COMPRESSION:V42 BIS
CONNECT 9600
When "Starting pppd"
I get "The pppd daemon died unexpectedly", and I am disconnected :(
Now, one time I manually wrote in my login and passwd, and then a terminal
started
and I could use rlogin, telnet and so on. But, connected like this, one can't
surf
the web, so what do I do?
Is there supposed to exist a pppd-file somwhere? I can't find any on my
machine.
Desperately:
Magnus
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