Linux-Misc Digest #131, Volume #19 Sun, 21 Feb 99 18:13:08 EST
Contents:
Re: Apache and different users (Todd Knarr)
Sound Card Problem (Pavel Greenfield)
Re: sega genesis emulator for linux? (other emus too?)DOH! found it...
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Please help me to customize the color for ls command (Samuel Knapp)
Please help me to customize the color for ls command ("Robert Nguyen")
Re: More bad news for NT (Bloody Viking)
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (John S. Dyson)
Re: Balsa, gnome 0.99.8, RH5.2 and compile problems (Jim Richardson)
Re: directory removal program (Jim Richardson)
Re: Printing Man Pages to Text File (Jim Richardson)
Re: KDE? Gnome? ... confused (jedi)
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (John S. Dyson)
Re: sccs for linux (Paul Kimoto)
Re: Linux has too many problems (Ed Cogburn)
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From: Todd Knarr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Apache and different users
Date: 21 Feb 1999 21:57:35 GMT
Morten Ranheim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm trying to configure apache (1.3.4) so people can have they're
> homepages in the /home/someuser/public_html
This is done in srm.conf, via the UserDir directive. If you put in:
UserDir: public_html
then any URLs where the first path segment starts with a ~ (tilde)
and names a username will be redirected to the public_html directory
under that user's home directory.
--
All I want out of the Universe is 10 minutes with the source code and
a quick recompile.
-- unknown
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From: Pavel Greenfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.seup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Sound Card Problem
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 17:22:55 -0500
Hi,
I think I configured my sound card (SB16) correctly. It works under
windows. I've compiled (2.0.36) in the support for my card and for
/dev/audio and /dev/dsp. Here's an excerpt from dmesg:
////
Sound initialization started
<Sound Blaster 16 (4.13)> at 0x220 irq 5 dma 1,5
<Sound Blaster 16> at 0x330 irq 5
<Yamaha OPL3 FM> at 0x388
Sound initialization complete
////
Looks OK, doesn't it?
However:
1. There is no /dev/audio in /dev
2. cat file.au > /dev/dsp is 10% content 90% annoying distortion
3. Playing CD's produces no sound at all.
What else can I try?
Thanks a lot in advance!
Pavel
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
PS: A SCSI question to follow....
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: sega genesis emulator for linux? (other emus too?)DOH! found it...
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 19:02:18 GMT
In article <7amlkh$us3$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi, I am presently trying to find a sega genesis emulator for linux and have
> come up with little to nothing. (matter a fact i have only been able to find
> ines and snes9x in the way of emus for linux). If anyone could point me
in
> the right direction i would really appricate it... Or just as good(better
> yet?) a linux game emu page? thank you very much!
>
Doh! i took a look at the linux apps page and it had quite a few game
emulators... sorry! (though i still can't seem to finda turbo graphics 16
emu) ;>
thanks!
Gaikokujin Kyofusho
Student Extraordinare & UN*X Guru Wannbe
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From: Samuel Knapp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Please help me to customize the color for ls command
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 17:24:26 -0500
Robert Nguyen wrote:
>
> Hello there,
> I don't know how to set up color for ls command. there is a file in the
> /etc directory named DIR_COLORS. It show me how to customize the color for
> ls command but it does not work.
> Please help me
> Thank you
> Robert Nguyen
(assuming you're using bash)
Edit the /etc/bashrc file by adding the line:
alias ls='ls --color=yes'
Note the spacing there.
This makes a system wide alias. Whenever you type "ls", linux will
assume the command was "ls --color=yes".
You will have to restart bash to get this to work (usually exiting out
to a login will be enough).
Chris
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From: "Robert Nguyen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Please help me to customize the color for ls command
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 12:34:40 -0800
Hello there,
I don't know how to set up color for ls command. there is a file in the
/etc directory named DIR_COLORS. It show me how to customize the color for
ls command but it does not work.
Please help me
Thank you
Robert Nguyen
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From: Bloody Viking <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.linux
Subject: Re: More bad news for NT
Date: 21 Feb 1999 22:29:32 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Avoid all NT related products as they are all incredibly inefficient by
: design. I could put man on Jupitar with the amount of hardware required to
: get my NT boxes to perform to a satisfactory standard. As for MS SQL 7 you
: either are on the payroll of MS or simply do not understand operating
: systems.
Sheesh. You must have a regular HAL 9000 to have hardware enough to send a
man to Jupiter. Why waste all that computing power on NT?
--
CAUTION: Email Spam Killer in use. Leave this line in your reply! 152680
Humans never fly. They either ride a flying bus or drive it.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John S. Dyson)
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Date: 21 Feb 1999 17:51:15 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens) writes:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John S. Dyson) wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>>So, you (by "supporting" software) are leveraging the efforts of those
>>who have given their work away for free. The kind of "free" determines
>>how the developer (him|her)self can profit. The GPL excludes amortizing
>>cost of development from the money pipeline (unless there is some
>>gross overcharging going on somewhere, like for support fees.) GPLed
>>code is structured for people like you to make money. There has been
>>lots of good money made on free and GPLed works.
>
> Does the BSD style license seek to prevent the a commercial venture
> such as Red Hat/SuSE etc etc from making a profit from disributing
> free software? Even if it did I doubt that such a restriction would be
> enforceable. I conclude the lack of such a venture for BSD licenced
> software is not due to some enabling mechanism in the GPL, but to
> the lack of demand for such a service.
>
> Are all the possibilities of making a profit from support services etc
> available for with software which has a BSD style licence? Does
> any BSD style license contain a paragraph prohibiting charging for
> support services?
>
The cool thing about the BSD license is that developers can add to
the free software base and effectively make capital investments
in it. GPL licensing excludes that.
> [snip]
>
>>You are making a sort-of investment in your reputation and marketing
>>skills -- however, you are also (by using GPLed works) using software
>>that doesn't directly support the notion that software development
>>is a capital investment. You are supporting GPLed software
>>that condemns future works also to be divulged. This discourages
>>the notion of programming, design, innovation for investment
>>on the part of the people who originated derived works.
>
> Your use of the word "condemns" gives you away.
>
The word "condemn" has to do with *forcing* code to the
public (from the programmers standpoint.) That is NOT
good, because of the bar that it raises at the same
time as not being interesting as a programming
investment vehicle. It is great for the marketeers,
though. They can keep on draining it, depending
on free labor for enhancement. The labor
(programming) has little or no opportunity for
the programming investment that the marketeers
have with their skills.
The marketeers are dependent on the developers who
are giving *it* away for free. The developers can
not invest in a code base as a kind of capital (and
expect a return), unlike the marketeers using their
skills. Don't confuse "support" companies "officially"
charging support fees, with normal (and more proper)
charging for a product.
The funny thing is that with some support companies,
you technically pay for support, and you dont' get access
to GPLed works unless you pay for the support. That
is a mis-definition of support. (This sounds more
and more like Clinton -- whatever the definition of
"is" "is.")
>
> The basis
> of your complaint about the GPL seems to be that it does not
> allow proprietory works to be derived from it. AFAIAC that
> is not a problem; in fact it is one of the benefits of the GPL.
>
Double speak, the code not being free is a problem, when it really
isn't. It is not a benefit AT ALL that the add-in (and often add-on,
per RMS) software cannot be treated as an investment.
>
> Once a piece of code is free, it stays free.
>
Yep, but it isn't GPL. Correctly restating what you say:
Once a piece of code is GPL and not free, it stays in the
public and isn't worth spending expensive and creative
development time on (for programming professionals.) They
(along with others who are just hobbiests) will do it as a hobby,
hope to get credit, and the marketeers and "support" firms will
make the $$$. The $$$ seldom flow back to the developers,
and the marketeers (and pseudo-support firms) will continue
to LOVE GPL, as free fuel.
>
> I also have
> some difficulty with your phrase "who originated derived
> works". If it is derived then it is not original.
>
Newly derived works can include significant amounts of creative
effort. GPL and you ignore the cost of that. That is okay,
but it also isn't free, and the programmers need to realize
that there are strong economic motivations to keep them in
the GPL fold, if they fall into it.
--
John | Never try to teach a pig to sing,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | it makes one look stupid
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | and it irritates the pig.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Balsa, gnome 0.99.8, RH5.2 and compile problems
Date: 20 Feb 1999 19:46:54 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 19 Feb 1999 08:35:03 -0600,
Tom Ellis, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
brought forth the following words...:
>Hi,
>
>I've got a brand spanking new Red Hat 5.2 install and have recently
>installed all the gnome 0.99.8 rpms on this system. After looking around for
>a nice looking mail reader, I thought I'd give balsa a try since it's the
>gnome MUA and it the screenshots looked rather spiffy. I snagged the tarball
>for 0.49 off linuxberg and tried to compile it but have run into problems.
>Whenever I run the configure script it always peters out while checking to
>make sure that gtk is installed. Everything that the README file lists as
>required for the program is installed, via RPM, but the configure script
>just dies claiming that either gtk is not installed, or that the location
>has changed since it was first installed. I have both the gtk+ and
>gtk+-devel rpms installed and the libraries appear to all be there. It looks
>like it is bombing when checking for /usr/include/gtk/gtk.h but that library
>is there. So, does anybody have any suggestions for getting balsa to compile
>and install? I'd appreciate any suggestions. Thanks.
>
>Tom
If you are absolutely sure that the required libs are where they are
supposed to be, and uncorrupted, then alter the config script to skip
checking for them.
--
Jim Richardson
Anarchist, pagan and proud of it
WWW.eskimo.com/~warlock
Linux, because life's too short for a buggy OS.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Subject: Re: directory removal program
Date: 20 Feb 1999 19:46:56 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 19 Feb 1999 02:37:22 GMT,
Steve, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
brought forth the following words...:
>Hi all..
>
>I *know* there has to be an easier way than the way I've been trying
>to do this..
>
>Does anyone know of a small stand-alone program that will forcefully
>remove a directory automatically instead of having to manually by hand
>rm files, then rmdir directories??
>
>If I untar a file that has an immense tree that it extracts, it takes
>me half of forever to go through and remove all the unwanted files and
>directories, one directory at a time..
>
>An example of what I'm after is Window's deltree command. It removes
>specified directories and all related files/subdirectories in one big
>swoop.
>
>Any url or ftp sites to download such an animal would be appreciated
>(and my hands and fingers thank you too!)
>
>Regards,
>Steve
I am sure that by now you've heard this over and over, but I'll add my
voice to the cacophany.
rm -rf tardir
will (recursively) and (forcefully) remove the directory tardir.
--
Jim Richardson
Anarchist, pagan and proud of it
WWW.eskimo.com/~warlock
Linux, because life's too short for a buggy OS.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Subject: Re: Printing Man Pages to Text File
Date: 20 Feb 1999 19:46:58 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 19 Feb 1999 19:50:57 -0500,
Reidar Sjoen, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
brought forth the following words...:
>Anyone know how I can print out a man page to a text file?
>I want to print out the bash entry, and my Canon BJC printer is on another
>PC.
> (I don't want to even think about setting it up on the Linux box yet)
>I tried # man -t bash > bashman.txt, but it was a mess.
>I tried cut and paste with xman, but that doesn't seem to be a go either.
>
>Thanks
>
> -- Reidar
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ICQ# 17563026
>
>
try
# man -t bash |ps2ascii > bashman.txt
--
Jim Richardson
Anarchist, pagan and proud of it
WWW.eskimo.com/~warlock
Linux, because life's too short for a buggy OS.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jedi)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat.rpm
Subject: Re: KDE? Gnome? ... confused
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 14:17:04 -0800
On 21 Feb 1999 13:24:32 PST, Matt O'Toole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Jim McCusker wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>
>>I think that the point is that if a distro were to include a couple of
>>extra user accounts that are *always* set up the same way, then it would
>>be very easy to find someone who has not bothered to either delete or
>>modify those accounts.
>
>So what? That wouldn't hurt anythhing, except take up a teensy bit of disk
>space...
...not to mention allow anyone on the planet to access the
machine remotely from anywhere on the planet including people
who are familiar with Unix root expliots.
>
>>Of course, the distro could ask the user if they
>>want to set up user accounts, and then ask for passwords, etc. or
>>randomly generate passwords.
>
>Ooh, now you're thinking. But, is that too much like a Winwizard? How
>uncool...
Default security characteristics have some severe repurcussions
beyond ease of use. Mind you, such 'wizards' are already in place
for the root user anyways. Extending that last part of redhat's
installer to create a couple more accounts would not be such a
great deviation.
--
Herding Humans ~ Herding Cats
Neither will do a thing unless they really want to, or |||
is coerced to the point where it will scratch your eyes out / | \
as soon as your grip slips.
In search of sane PPP docs? Try http://penguin.lvcm.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John S. Dyson)
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Date: 21 Feb 1999 21:57:20 GMT
In article <WQZz2.383$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alan McLean) writes:
>
> Many use the GPL because it encourages intellectual sharing,
> "symbiosis" as it was put.
>
So do free licenses.
>
> Many developers who use the GPL are not anti-capitolism.
> They are not prevented from using their _own_work_ in other
> endeavors. The GPL enables participation in intellectual
> sharing with others, while preventing some from exploiting
> the work unfairly.
>
It is apparent that GPL is anti capital (in the sense of
the fruits of software development.) If you want to keep
people from developing derived goods from the work, why do
you tease them with tainted goods (in the sense of
intellectual property)?
>
> You seem very concerned about the "2nd tier" developers,
> but if _they_ want to leverage my work for commercial
> purpose, shouldn't they work something out with me? Are they
> really entitled to have me or anyone else work for
> _free_? (to use a very over-loaded word ;)
>
I am pro-sharing of information and creation of new ideas. To
make it (a-priori) not interesting to develop against a code
base, like GPL does, then the works often dont get produced on
those bases to begin with. The GPL developers themselves who
do the add-on work are the hobbyest and 2nd tier type developers
in the scheme of things. Sure, major companies will add on
(exploit) the end GPL product, but not spend lots of time on
throwing their development capital away on it.) It is the
people at the endpoints who win from GPL, not the development
community.
BTW, what really interesting, and new technology has come in
a solely GPL form? I suspect that you'll find a few examples,
but GCC compilers and Linux kernels don't count.
In fact, they (developers) are being exploited by those at the
ENDS of the foodchain, like Linus (by name), support ($$$)
companies, and wrote code duplicators. Anyone with a half
a brain sees that.
--
John | Never try to teach a pig to sing,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | it makes one look stupid
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | and it irritates the pig.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: sccs for linux
Date: 20 Feb 1999 14:42:57 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
naftali wrote:
> Linux
> apparently has no SCCS support. SCCS is a standard on system V machines so
> I would prefer to use that instead of cvs, or rcs. I don't mind using an
> emulation of SCCS for Linux, if the interface is the same as the regular
> SCCS.
>
> can anyone tell me where can I find SCCS for Linux ( emulation or the
> real McCoy ? ) ?
Work is underway. See http://www.free-lunch.demon.co.uk/CSSC/index.html .
--
Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: Ed Cogburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux has too many problems
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 12:05:48 -0500
Apologies to TomX for using his reply to respond to earlier post.
TomX wrote:
>
> Hi Linux Lovers,
> Don't be angry! I didn't mean Linux is not a good OS.
> Everything was OK when I installed Slackware 2.0.9 on i486 system,
> but when I tried to install the hottest RedHat on a PII-300 system,
> I get so disappointed. Really too many problems.E.g if you
> copy all the RPMS files from a fat partition to a linux partition, it
> definitely hang up. Just a cp command!!!!. I guess Linux kernel
> can't handle some hard disk operation properly.
I've been copying and moving files for more than a year between a
DOS FAT/FAT32 partition and Debian Linux. I've never seen a
lockup when doing this. You almost certainly have a hardware
problem, or, a problem with some new hardware on your new system,
that Linux doesn't yet support (properly).
> I believe the problems are caused by my hardware because I had
> good experience on i486 system.
>
> >A software engineer's experience on RedHat 5.2:
> >
> >Extremely difficult to install. (take me one week to get installed)
This shows how different people with different hardware have
different experiences. According to just about everyone, RH is
easier to install than any other distribution (I personally like
Debian better).
> >Often hang up(esp. in X Window).
a) If you are using Netscape, then yes, you will see occasional
lockups. This is a notorious problem with Netscape.
b) How well is your video hardware supported by XWin? If you are
using a just recently supported graphics hardware, then occasional
lockups are possible as well. This is a XWin driver-stability
issue, not Linux.
> >Less descriptive error messages.
True. Many programmers are notorious for arcane error messages
and weak documentation. :-)
> >So many problems, Linux still has a long way to go.
As a 'desktop' mainstream OS, yes. Keep in mind, though, that
much of Linux's popularity is driven by its use as a server OS
(web/print/file). For a server OS, Linux can be stripped down to
only the software needed to do the server work. A web server, in
essence, would only need the Linux kernel, with the networking
software package and Apache (web server software). No X, no dev
software, no KDE/GNOME. In this role, Linux is rock-solid stable.
> >
> >I believe all the problems I met are caused by my hardware,
> >but why Linux developers can't test on more hardware list?
How much money/influence do you think the Linux developers have?
They are *volunteer* developers doing most of what they do in
their own spare time. They cannot afford the purchase of hardware
just for testing purpose, and most hardware makers do not consider
the Linux market an important market that would justify the
loaning of hardware to the Linux developers so they can write
drivers.
Most hardware manufacturers, are *not* currently supporting
Linux. This means its up to *volunteers* to write the support
software and/or drivers for that hardware, and this may itself be
impossible if essential information about that hardware is not
made public by the manufacturers, who will only give out info to
those who can sign a non-disclosure agreement, which is not
possible for an open-source developer.
--
Ed C.
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