Linux-Misc Digest #158, Volume #19 Wed, 24 Feb 99 01:13:10 EST
Contents:
Re: The .pl- extension? (fernando)
Can't login to linux from anywhere, must reboot? (Michael Mulvaney)
SoftOSS Installation (Steve Gage)
Re: SuSe + root + perl will nicht (Leif Kremkow)
Re: good book for beginner? (Jatin Kamat)
Re: ICQ for Linux (Frank Sweetser)
Re: Linux in embeded systems? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
postsrcipt utility wanted (Stefano Ghirlanda)
Re: KDE Desktop with Redhat Apollo (Michel Catudal)
Re: Linux programming book ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Read/Write on UFS filesystems under 2.2.1 (Rob Fisher)
Re: postsrcipt utility wanted (Jacob C Gladish)
Re: New York Times magazine article (David Goldstein)
Newbie: Postscript Alternative (Calvin Mitchell)
Re: ICQ for Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Tony Porczyk)
Re: What generic SCSI II card for 2.0.9 and DAT ? (brian moore)
Re: c++ compiler (Upali Bandara)
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Theo de Raadt)
Re: Suse 6.0 & Window Maker 0.51.0 ? (Peter Nobels)
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From: fernando <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The .pl- extension?
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 11:54:39 +0500
Brian McCauley wrote:
>
> Please note: this has nothing to do with Linux. Please consider using
> the generic Unix groups unless you have some reason to suspect that
> your question may be Linux specific.
Is this comp.os.linux.MISC ??
Can somebody explain me the propose of this NG ?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Mulvaney)
Subject: Can't login to linux from anywhere, must reboot?
Date: 22 Feb 1999 17:15:12 GMT
I've been having a weird problem with my linux machine lately. After
it has been up for a while, it will not allow any logins. I usually
leave it sitting on the floor, without a monitor, and telnet into it
from other machines. When I try to telnet in, I don't get a login
prompt of any kind.
I plugged in a monitor, and from the console, I get the login prompt.
After I put in my username and password, the screen refreshes and
gives me another login prompt. This happens no matter what
username/password combo I try to use.
I can reboot the computer with Ctrl-Alt-Delete, which sends a shutdown
-r now message. After rebooting, I can log in as normal.
This happened twice over the weekend. Both times the computer worked
fine for several hours, but after 12+ hours it would not allow me to
login.
Has anyone seen this problem before?
I am running RedHat 5.2 with the kernel that came with it(2.0.36, I
think).
The machine still seems to be working: Apache is running fine, and it
is still IP Masqing for my Lan. ftp doesn't work, it won't let me log
on.
Mike
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From: Steve Gage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: SoftOSS Installation
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 16:50:56 +0000
In my last kernel compilation, I opted for the SoftOSS midi feature. A
nice module was created, but I have not found any instruction anywhere
as to how to activate it or integrate with my existing audio. I have
been using OPL3 for midi, and it's been working OK, but I wanted to try
for some better quality sound. Does anyone know how to set this up?
Kernel 2.2.1, opl3sa2/opl3 sound. I have the instrument patch files in
/dos/ultrasnd/midi, as it says in the kernel sound docs. Alas, that's
all they tell you!
Thanks in advance for any tips,
-Steve
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leif Kremkow)
Subject: Re: SuSe + root + perl will nicht
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 19:05:25 +0100
sorry! i f*cked up - this went to the wrong news group...
just ignore it.
regards,,
LK
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From: Jatin Kamat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: good book for beginner?
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 13:35:05 -0500
sams - teach urself linux in 24 hours is good enough
Chris wrote:
> Can someone please recommend some good books for a Linux newbie? I've read
> a lot of good reviews about "Running Linux" by ORA. Are there any other
> good beginner books which are more recent?
>
> Thanks
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From: Frank Sweetser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ICQ for Linux
Date: 22 Feb 1999 13:13:47 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I'm not sure if there's a native version of ICQ - yet. But you should be
> able to find a java version on the ICQ homepage.
there's actually several. search for 'em on http://freshmeat.net/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux in embeded systems?
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 17:19:58 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
The Arrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
...
> The first question is: Is it possible to use Linux in embeded systems like
> this (diskless with not much RAM)?
> The second question is: What are the minimum modules/drivers/etc. needed
> for such a system?
Yes it can be done. The latest issue of the Linux Journal, a magazine see
"http://www.ssc.com" , has an excellent article on the Linux Router Project
that you'll find interesting.
Here is their URL:
http://www.linuxrouter.org
Also you could look at some of the single diskette resque/rescue systems on
"http://sunsite.unc.edu".
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stefano Ghirlanda)
Subject: postsrcipt utility wanted
Date: 22 Feb 1999 18:34:21 GMT
Hi,
I seem to remember that there was a utility that takes a .ps file and
outputs the same file but "squeezed" so that two pages in the original are
put side to side to make up one page only...
any hints?
thanks, Stefano
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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KDE Desktop with Redhat Apollo
Date: 22 Feb 1999 21:33:03 -0600
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > > > > snd? Is that a KDE program?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > A sound reader program to record music off CD or LPs. It refuses to record
> at
> > > a
> > > > higher speed that 8035Hz which is useless. My input of 44100 is
> overwritten
> > > with the
> > > > ridiculous default. I have to go to winblows NT to record my LPs.
> > >
> > > I insist: is it a KDE program? There is a sound recorder for KDE, too, but I
> > > don't know if it's the one you are talking about. So, unless I am sure what
> > > program you are referring to, it's not easy to help you.
> > >
> >
> > snd is a sound program, nothing to do with kde. As for krecord I haven't been
> > able to get it to compile, it complains about .h files missing. The names
> > fly off the screen so I don't get to see the first message that it chokes on.
> > I just gave up on that one. I installed all the stuff that was on the CD
> directory
> > for the redhat kde.
>
> Ok, then. The best thing to do is probably to just try another program.
> I bet there are several of them at www.freshmeat.net or www.linuxberg.com
>
> Best regards,
>
Not really, so far none of the one that I found on the web work correctly. I did
manage to compile krecord once I upgraded to the newer kde. I also had to change
the makefile since it wanted a couple environment variable that if I set the way
it wants crash kde on start up. Putting the actual paths in the makefile allows
it to compile. But then when I run it and tell it to use 44100hz it changes it
to 44188hz which makes it incompatible with the wav to mp3 program which will not
accept this odd ball rate. That's not all, once in a while it records silence but
when it does record the sound is distorted. It doesn't really matter whether I
put the input level very low or very high.
I found another program that seems nice but only support one sound card, turns
out not to be mine. There is one other programs that seems nice and works on the
console. When I switch it to 1027x768 resolution it disables the display and I
have log in another session to kill it. As for recording, when it doesn't crash,
it records silence. As if it can't find the sound card.
Snd is the only one that records something I can play back except that it insist
on only recording at 8035hz (??&*???%$?).
After several weeks of research I have to conclude that I can only record music
from the Line Input either under Winblows or OS/2. With Linux it only works on
a few sound cards, and mine, even though it works very well under OS/2 is not
recognized correctly by recording programs. They sort of recognize it partly under
an old Linux kernel but not under the new 2.2.2 kernel. As for playback I have no
problem, all the programs I've tried work well, except UMP which works like shit,
it plays midi too fast. Kmidi works well except for the core dump when you try to
play more than one song. Kmidi didn't do that with the other kde version. It looks
like something is broken in kde beside the console window which does weird things,
for instance if you run joe and the file is too small, you can't edit anything.
You can exit the file allright. It may play this silly trick with some other apps,
I wouldn't know since I didn't try. It seems to not send the right position information
to the console program. My X is set for 1024x768.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux programming book
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 04:01:54 GMT
"Beginning Linux Programming" IS an excellent book, but is there a book like
it (as much like it as possible) that uses C++ instead of C?
Thanks,
Dave D.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Gene Wilburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If this is the Wrox book: Beginning Linux Programming by Neil Matthew
> and Richard Stones, it is excellent.
>
> Gene
>
> Mark Robinson wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I was thinking of ordering Linux Programming from Cheapbytes. Is the
> > book any good? Are there better books?
>
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From: Rob Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Read/Write on UFS filesystems under 2.2.1
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 16:56:51 +0000
hi all,
Has anyone had any joy mounting UFS filesystems read/write under the
2.2.1 kernel? I've built all the necessary into said kernel, and when I
mount my Solaris x86 partitions with o=rw or -w, mount reports that they
are mounted read/write, but any attempt to modify them results in a
"read-only filesystem" error.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Rob
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From: Jacob C Gladish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: postsrcipt utility wanted
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 14:06:59 -0500
Stefano Ghirlanda wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I seem to remember that there was a utility that takes a .ps file and
> outputs the same file but "squeezed" so that two pages in the original are
> put side to side to make up one page only...
> any hints?
> thanks, Stefano
>
>
it's "enscript" You can get the source from metalab.unc.edu via ftp. I
can't remeber what directory it's down, maybe packages..I'm not sure.
Browse the man page for details.
jake
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From: David Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: New York Times magazine article
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 11:55:23 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2]
>
> Drinking my Latte and flipping through the New York Times magazine this
> afternoon, I came to a full page picture of Linus Torvalds. I knew I knew
> who it was, but it was so out-of-place, that it took 30 seconds to
> register. But sure enough, a full article titled "The Rebel Code" by
> Amy Harmon. I think it is a fair & decent treatment, including quotes
> from RMS, Eric Raymond, and Donald Becker. It talks about the investment
> in RedHat by Intel & Netscape. It talks about the Open Source movement,
> and the moves by Netscape & Sun. It mentions the Microsoft internal memo,
> and includes a 1976 quote by Bill Gates to hackers/hobbyists that
> "Most of you steal your software." It makes what I think is a fair
> assesment that the Linux install base of 7 million hardly compares to
> Microsofts 250+ million users, and that Linux is still too complicated
> for the average computer user. The article mentions Beckers work with
> Linux clusters for NASA and Open Source software such as Sendmail.
> There is a brief mention of "The Cathedral & the Bazarr". All in all,
> a decent fair article about Linux, in a major mainstream publication.
>
> --
> Danny Aldham
So, now MS has 250 million users!? Just a month ago it was about 90
million--I guess that I should have bought stock in MS :) Of course,
the user base for Linux is much smaller; however, it is steadily growing
and by the end of this year could easily be between 12 and 15 million
users. I think that from a business standpoint, though, 7 million is
hard to overlook. It is time for the commercial developers to start
porting their stuff--read this as games, since plenty of software exists
for other aspects of the commercial market.
The only thing really holding Linux back is acceptance by the end-user
that wants to play games, as well as surf the web and send some email.
Contrary to other posts in this newsgroup and COLA, Linux set up is not
really difficult. If a killer game was to appear on the market that was
for Linux only, I think that we would see the number of users go up
drastically.
Bill Gates steals software everyday and has done so for decades now,
by the way. W2K is going to flop and MS will be forced to shift their
business tactics. Linux is lining up as a very good alternative to MS
Win(anything) and by this time next year, Linux will become a major
player.
David
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From: Calvin Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Newbie: Postscript Alternative
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 10:54:11 -0800
Is there alternative to postscript for printing graphics?
I was trying to print from Netscape to my local Laserjet 6L; ASCII is
fine, but I don't have a postscript simm.
Thanks for your help.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ICQ for Linux
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 18:48:52 +0100
I'm not sure if there's a native version of ICQ - yet. But you should be
able to find a java version on the ICQ homepage.
You'll need to install the JDK (Java Development Kit) in order to run java
applications, though. You'll find a Linux version of JDK on
http://www.blackdown.org
sabunimjw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does anyone know where I can get ICQ for linux?
> Thanks
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Date: 22 Feb 99 17:47:49 GMT
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tony Porczyk)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alan McLean) writes:
> Name-calling is ugly, and only detracts from any kind of point that
> is lurking. To be fair, John is not innocent of it either.
I didn't mention John simply because (no disrespect intended,
John) I don't know him from anyone else on the street. However,
the name Linus Torvalds is immediately recognizable to many for
the bearer's celebrated contributions to others. Such celebrity
status, however, carries certain expectations. Unwillingness to
recognize it as a simple fact of life is a sign of immaturity.
That was my whole point, and I appreciate your helping me to clarify
it.
t.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: What generic SCSI II card for 2.0.9 and DAT ?
Date: 22 Feb 1999 18:57:48 GMT
On Sun, 21 Feb 1999 08:04:26 GMT,
Andy Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Help - What generic SCSI II card for 2.0.9 and DAT
>
> I need to put a SCSI card (only need SCSI II) in a machine
> running 2.0.9 ELF (pre glibc) to drive a DAT drive. Soon I shall
> be putting Redat 5.2 on there but not yet.
2.0.9?? Um, upgrade. There are serious nasty bugs in that kernel.
(And no, you don't have to move to glibc2, just get up to 2.0.34 or
later.)
> When I ask our technicians to order a card they can only
> come up with the latest whizz-bang do everything 90mph
> ultra-wide SCSI III device which isn't quite in the hardware list
> (at least for 2.0.9) for example "Adaptec 2940UWOF Ultra Wide Open
> Firmware SCSI Card Kit" because that's what people want to sell.
Never heard of that one, but I have a plain old 2940UW on one of my home
systems that's worked great for a couple years.
> What I want is something generic that works
> (PCI slot or ISA - I don't care as lonmg as its fast enough
> for the DAT).
Adaptec cards are pretty generic, as in common. They're fine cards,
though, and Adaptec has been good to the kernel developers.
> What card should I tell them to get that you can still get easily
> and will work with 2.0.9 PCI bus machine and a DAT ?
> (It has to work *before* I put rh5.2 on).
>
> Will the 2940UWOF work with kernel 2.0.9 (re-compiled of course) ?
I wouldn't trust it. 2.0.9 had lots and lots of SCSI problems. I think
it was 2.0.28 or so that I actually trusted it enough to switch from
1.2.13.
You should upgrade to a recent kernel anyway, though. There are some
serious denial of service attacks against that kernel (from "f00f" on
Pentiums to nestea......).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Upali Bandara)
Subject: Re: c++ compiler
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 19:02:38 +0100
Thanks, everybody!
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Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
From: Theo de Raadt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 23 Feb 1999 22:49:28 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Viro) writes:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Theo de Raadt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Tobin) writes:
> >
> >> I write free software, but why on earth should I want to spend my time
> >> making life easier for people who earn twice as much as me?
> >
> >Because the corporate programmer often writes complete crap, and then
> >ships it.
> >
> >If we give them more pieces of the puzzle, we might end up with more
> >reliable commercial software.
>
> Sorry, it doesn't parse. How many times did we see your comments on
> bugtraq re "damnit, folks, we had fixed that bug back in '96 and you *still*
> have it in your tree"?
That is different. I am not trying to target the programmers who are
writing operating systems, per se.
However, I should point out that the funny thing is that most of those
systems have the same bugs because they were based on free BSD code.
Noone cared about security back then. Noone cared about careful code
back then. Noone cared about licences back then. They just cared
about using what they were able to use.
Well, what am I talking about.... not a lot has changed...
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(If it wasn't so fascinating I might get some sleep myself...)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Nobels)
Subject: Re: Suse 6.0 & Window Maker 0.51.0 ?
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 18:18:58 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 21 Feb 1999 09:22:08 +0100, Melmoth The Wanderer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi there.
>
>I cannot succeed compiling window maker 0.51.0 on a new installed suse
>6.0.
>
>The error message go this way:
>
>checking for PLGetString in -lPropList... no
>ERROR!!! libPropList is not installed, or could not be found.
> Window Maker requires libPropList to build.
> Please read INSTALL to find where you can find libPropList,
> and install it first.
>
>The funny thing is that LibPropList IS installed. Here is an output of
>rpm -ql libPropList:
>
>/usr/include/proplist.h
>/usr/lib/libPropList.a
>/usr/lib/libPropList.la
>/usr/lib/libPropList.so
>/usr/lib/libPropList.so.0
>/usr/lib/libPropList.so.0.1.1
I am running Suse 6 and WM 0.51. Didn't install any rpm's but got the
tgz-archives from WM's homepage and compiled them myself. Works like
a charm...
Peter Nobels, Roularta Media Group.
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