Linux-Misc Digest #158, Volume #27 Mon, 19 Feb 01 07:13:04 EST
Contents:
Re: which distro (Michael Heiming)
Configuring NFS ("Andreas Moroder")
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else ("Peter T. Breuer")
about installation of Linux ("Raymond So")
Re: Logs telnetd & ftpd (Jeff Moore)
tar archive error (Wolfgang Batrla)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else ("Edward Rosten")
How to upgrade RPM itself? (Stearns28)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Charlie Ebert)
Leafnode Newsserver in Intranet (niketan sharma)
Re: tar archive error ("Roy B")
Re: Stupid Newbie question. ("Eric")
Re: Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer (M. Buchenrieder)
Looking for something Linux (iQXth)
Re: cdrecord + 90/99 minutes CD-R's (Matthias Medger)
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 09:04:29 +0100
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: which distro
Big Al in Seattle wrote:
> I have a question that I have not seen answer to. I have a variety of
> systems, 486s P100, Mac. Should I use one distr. for all systems or use a
> different one depending on what will run the best. I have quite a few disks
> around, but getting them working is a matter of time and space.
>
> Any ideas on this?
>
> Big Al in Seattle
Hello,
I would suggest one distro, in the mean time they are all (more or less) the
same,
but asuming you are just starting your Linux expirience, you should use one
that has
easy setup tools, that configure basic things for you automagically.
If you get used to Linux you may like to fidle around with the text only
config files,
most are somewhere below /etc.
I only know SuSE (7.1 is the latest), the install process has made great
progress in the last years,
in terms of easy setup. Best would be to buy the distro with the nice book
that comes with it, the
book is on the first CD, but it's always nice, esp. if you're starting to have
it handy.
Good luck
Michael Heiming
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From: "Andreas Moroder" <amoroder@se-nord.[nospam]provinz.bz.it>
Subject: Configuring NFS
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 08:59:49 +0100
Hello,
I have a Suse Linux system. What is the best configuration tool to configure
the NFS server ?
Thank you
Andreas Moroder
P.S. if possible answer via e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 04:23:54 +0100
In comp.os.linux.misc Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.misc Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> In comp.os.linux.misc Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> In comp.os.linux.misc Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Mercer) writes:
> No, I'm sorry, You have speculated that the Scientific Method is
Well, I pointed out that the scientific method helps me program
computers, while religious faith does not.
> somehow different than a faith. Even impliying that "truth" can
You (or someone) tried to tell me that I have faith in certain things
while programing. Certainly there are axioms of programming
which I use, just as I use axioms of chess, but I don't believe in
them. They are merely my theories, i.e. approximations to the truth
that satisfactorily explain my observations and which have testable
predictive power that I have tested many times. For example, I
use the axiom that (a ; b;) executes a before b. I do not believe
it, however. In fact, I am quite aware that it is not the case
at a deep level, and that sometimes this has observable consequences.
> given you some alternatives to the data you are observing.
> The burden is on you to "prove" the Scientific Method, without
> using it in a proof.
No, it is not. Just as there is no burden of proof on anyone who asks
for proof to prove that requiring proof is sensible. Without proof, I
will not make a judgement, that's all. You can like it or lump it,
but it will worry me not at all.
> Your only alternative is to admit that the Scientific Method
> is indeed a faith.
What am I supposed to have faith in? That it works, perhaps? If I
have that faith, then it's a faith _about_ scientific method, and not
_of_ it.
>> Ditto. If you can think of a test for this, fine, propose it, and test
>> it.
> No, this is a possible explaination to the data you have observed.
So? Theories must have generality and predicitive consequences as
well as explanatory power. Your "explanation" ("it's all a dream")
doesn't explain why the dream appears consistent! But even
granting that it has explanatory power, it has no predictive power.
> You have postulated that the Scientific Method produces knowlege.
It produces science, and science is knowledge, just as the
rules of chess are knowledge.
> Please design an experiment if you wish, however, I also see your
> theory as having no testable consequences.
Well, if science produces knowledge, and knowledge confers advantages,
then you would expect that peoples who use science would be advantaged
over peoples who believe the tooth fairy controls their day to day
affairs. Is that the case?
>> Uh, repeatability is the basic minimum required for anything to be worth
>> troubling with. If you can't repeat your bug, I'm not going to
>> bother with it (unless it is a really disastrous bug). COme back when
>> you can, but until you can, I'm going to call you a charlatan, and it's
>> up to you to prove me wrong.
> So, as another poster pointed out, the big bang can't be proved because
> it can't be repeated? Has JFK really been shot?
These have repeatably testable consequences. Yes, JFK fails to answer the
telephone when I ring. Yes, the hydrogen/helium ratio in the universe
is what you'd expect from a bang in which a sea of fundamental
particles cooled by black body radiation.
Peter
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 04:29:08 +0100
In comp.os.linux.misc Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.misc Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> In comp.os.linux.misc Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> In comp.os.linux.misc Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> What is the difference between a "fixpoint theorem" and a "faith
>>> in a belief"?
>> Fixpoint theorems can be proved purely formally, without any recourse to
>> semantics. "every contraction mapping in a locally compact metric space
> Funny, but that does not answer the question.
Proof in that area does not require deep belief, though it helps to have
conviction. It's a formal game at bottom - like winning at Gin Rummy.
Peter
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From: "Raymond So" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: about installation of Linux
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:03:03 +0800
I want to install red hat 7.0 into my winME computer, but after installtion
it goes into winME no matter i use boot disk or not ....
what can i do to enter lilo ?
thanks,
raymond
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From: Jeff Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: redhat.general,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Logs telnetd & ftpd
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 03:53:30 -0600
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I read the Napster howto and found the problem:
I have two clients on my lan that were using the same port and this is not
allowed.
I also had the port set to one that was actively listening on the server, port
23, which is telnetd.
I also read to set port forwarding in the firewall for the two different ports
that you set for the two napster clients.
After changing all these settings and giving two different ports to the clients,
and forwarding the ports to the addresses,
it all worked just fine.
Napster lives!
Free the Internet!
Duh! Just one more broadcast medium.
Jeffrey Moore
Dean Thompson wrote:
> Hi Jeff,
>
> > I am trying to find the connection logs for telnetd and ftpd. I have
> > read the man for syslog, telnetd, and ftpd and I have not seen any
> > reference to the logs. Are there such logs, or do I have to write some
> > script for this?
>
> With the version of Linux that I have, these sorts of connections are logged
> in a number of different log files. /var/log/messages holds information such
> as when a SSH key was generated and when a user logs. I also think that this
> log holds information for ftp connections as well. I also have a log called
> /var/log/secure which holds information on who is making connections to the
> box.
>
> You just have to ensure that you have syslogd loaded and that it is running.
>
> I hope this information at least helps you track down your problem, although
> by the sounds of it, it doesn't sound like you are getting successful logins
> on your ftp daemon, so you may have to look at your /var/log/secure to see
> what the IP address is and work from there.
>
> See ya
>
> Dean Thompson
>
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From: Wolfgang Batrla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: tar archive error
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 11:08:16 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
reading a tar archive i encountered the error message:
"unexpected end of file in archive
error is not recoverable: exiting now"
is it possible to recover the data from that tape, despite
the error message?
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 10:08:43 +0000
> Your only alternative is to admit that the Scientific Method is indeed a
> faith.
That is not true. The Scientific Method (look at its name) is simply a
method of working. No more, mo less. Faith is not a method of working, so
the scientific method is not a faith.
-Ed
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stearns28)
Date: 19 Feb 2001 10:12:54 GMT
Subject: How to upgrade RPM itself?
Hi all,
When I tried to install zlib-devel1.1.3 with rpm, I got an error message
saying that the rpm program I was using could only handle "packages with
major number <=3". I guess it means the rpm I have is too old. Correct me if
I am wrong, pls.
So I downloaded the latest rpm from RH, but I couldn't upgrade with the old
rpm because it too has a major number > 3.
How do I upgrade rpm ?
-stearns
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Ebert)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Reply-To: Charlie Ebert:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 10:20:10 GMT
In article <96qrc0$7e0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Edward Rosten wrote:
>> Your only alternative is to admit that the Scientific Method is indeed a
>> faith.
>
>That is not true. The Scientific Method (look at its name) is simply a
>method of working. No more, mo less. Faith is not a method of working, so
>the scientific method is not a faith.
>
>-Ed
>
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From: niketan sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Leafnode Newsserver in Intranet
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 10:30:04 -0000
hello
somebody told me to use Leafnode newsserver for my intranet now the
problem is in configuration i cannot creat my own newsgroup i only want
internal newsgroup server no connection form outside (internet) suggest me
how to do i am using linux 5.2 and it is working as dail up mail server
for my company
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Reply-To: "Roy B" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Roy B" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: tar archive error
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 10:58:43 GMT
You may be out of luck - I suspect that recovering data from a corrupted tar
file would be possible but would likely involve a huge amount of bit
twiddling... hours and hours - perhaps days and days of it.
You might want to look into cpio / scpio or related programs for the future.
If I recall correctly they store each individual constituent file with it's
own file marksso that you can skip over corrupted parts.
"Wolfgang Batrla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> reading a tar archive i encountered the error message:
> "unexpected end of file in archive
> error is not recoverable: exiting now"
> is it possible to recover the data from that tape, despite
> the error message?
>
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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Stupid Newbie question.
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 12:03:46 +0100
> I use the RedHat distro so am not sure if it is the same as yours. But
> I edit a file called /etc/inittab:
>
> # 3 for console mode on startup
> #id:3:initdefault:
>
> # 5 for X11 on startup (gui)
> id:5:initdefault:
>
> Set yours to 5 if you want it to go into the GUI on bootup.
>
But don't do this, unless startx works
Eric
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 07:47:26 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Y. Chang) writes:
>M. Buchenrieder ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carsten Huettl) writes:
[...]
>: >I have tested RAM with AMI DIAG 4.51
>: Then it must be true, of course.
>These kinds of problems are not always caused by bad memory. They can
>also be caused by bad firmware.
[...]
They could also be caused by overclocked processors, incorrect/
insufficient cooling etc. Right. Bad memory modules, however,
are very common, and testing RAM modules with AMI DIAG is not
getting you anywhere - which is what I wanted to point out. :-)
Running memtest_86 (IIRC) is a better way to test your memory -
or trying to compile a kernel.
Michael
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From: iQXth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Looking for something Linux
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 11:29:38 GMT
Back in the day ('93) is when I got my first IBM compatible computer.
It came with Microsoft DOS and Windows 3.1 and a bunch of third-party
apps DOS and Windows apps. Being new to the platform at that time, I
felt overwhelmed being thrown into a system that was pre-built with
all those apps. But I had my trusty 2.5"-thick manual that came with
Windows to help guide me through everything. There was a time when I
uninstalled Windows 3.1 because I liked DOS much better. It just
seemed more efficient.
Anyway, in the process of learning how everything worked, I'd back up
everything to floppy and nuke the fixed disk and start from scratch. I
liked this because I could incrementally add software, poke around,
and see how everything worked and worked together.
For example, I'd install DOS and poke around and see what was there
and get comfortable with it. Then I'd install Windows 3.1 and poke
around and see what was there and get comfortable with it. Etc, etc...
Now, this is why I'm posting to the group...
I'd like to get that very same experience with Linux.
I want to be able to install the most basic part of Linux and explore
it for what it is. Then add to it. Man pages, command-line apps,
XFree86, X apps, RPM support, etc... I want the experience.
I hate how after installing a distribution like Redhat I feel like I
did in '93, very uncomfortable being 'thrown' into the middle of
everything not knowing where to start or what belongs to what.
I guess what I need first is a very small, fully functional Linux
distribution that I can install and build an entirely capable working
system from. Something that would fit on floppies like DOS did back in
the day. Not something that is so 'noisy' like Redhat. Any
suggestions?
Know where I'm coming from? Is any of this making sense to anyone else
but me?
:-)
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From: Matthias Medger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: cdrecord + 90/99 minutes CD-R's
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 12:28:47 +0100
Hallo
> I'd vouch for that too , although admittedly with less scientific data
> :)
> That being i've never seen 90/99 minute CDs advertised or sold or even
> talked about in magazines.
> Where this person 'found' out about them would be interesting.
These CD's exist. You can find an evidence on www.disc4you.net, they
sell 99 minutes CD-R's. In Germany you can buy 90 min CD-R`s in nearly
every Computer-shop.
Matthias Medger
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