Linux-Misc Digest #158, Volume #25               Mon, 17 Jul 00 13:13:03 EDT

Contents:
  Re: cdrecord: DVD OK ? (Oswald Knoppers)
  Re: Are there substantially more/less RPMs for RH or SuSE? (aflinsch)
  Re: 98 and Linux
  Re: What's the best linux software for cloning audio CD's? (Dances With Crows)
  Re: PPP compression revisited
  Re: Animated screen capture. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  web server: internal error ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Tarball definition (Dave Brown)
  Re: telnet  logs?? (Martin Skj�ldebrand)
  Load Balancing ("Simon")
  Re: Telnet and Backspace Problem (Dave Brown)
  Printing - Count printed Pages? (Rafael)
  Limiting open files (Kerry Cox)
  Re: PROBLEM: KERNEL 2.2.14 ("ne...")
  Cannot write into a read only file ????? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Which distro for newbie? (Mark Sidarous)
  Re: Tarball definition
  Re: Readhat domain name email setup ("Vince Van De Coevering")
  Re: File Description under Apache 1.3.x
  Re: Which distro for newbie? (NeMons)
  Re: resizing partitions in linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: Oswald Knoppers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: cdrecord: DVD OK ?
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 16:12:40 +0200

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
> Hello all,
> does anybody knows if I will be able to write DVD-RAM and DVD+RW with
> cdrecord ?

I am not sure about DVD+RW, but the DVD-RAM is just like a normal scsi
disk. There is no special software needed to access (read/write) them.
You might need a recent kernel though. What model DVD-RAM do you have?

Regards,

Oswald

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From: aflinsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Are there substantially more/less RPMs for RH or SuSE?
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 10:11:11 -0500

blowfish wrote:

> 
> Basically.  Most of the rpm from RH won't work on Mandrake, or SuSE.
> Or the rpm from SuSE won't work on RH or Mandrake, and Mandrake's rpm
> won't
> work on SuSE or RH.
> 

Mandrake was originally based on RedHat, and uses the same directory
configurations. I have never had a problem installing a RH RPM on
mandrake, while it is the rare SuSE RPM which will work on Mandrake.

I would agree that a Mandrake RPM will not always work on RH however,
as Mandrake RPM's are built for a i586 architecture rather than for a
i386.

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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 98 and Linux
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 10:29:21 -0400

Start the linux installation , going through the motions, choose "custom" or
what ever that alows you to have some control over the installation
process.Don't use the preconfigured "canned" workstation or server or any
such stuff.
use fdisk and make a 50 MB /boot partition at the begining of the drive.
Commit changes ( That happens when you tell fdisk to write changes.)
don't continue.
Reboot, and boot from a win98 recovery or setup disk.
Then use it's fdisk to make a primary fat32 partition ( this is where
windows installs itself). fdisk will make this primary fat32 partition
active.
Use an extended partition to cover the rest of the disk.

So you will have :
hda1 - /boot 50MB
hda2 - win98 fat32 ( 1-2 gig ?)
hda3 - extended
    hda5.....


Now format the c: drive and any other drives that were assigned to the
partitions in the extended.
Install win98, and set it up.
Linux's fdisk does make a reference to this problem with dos partitions.It's
somewhere in the man pages.

The trick to keeping it easy is to use dos programs to make dos partitions ,
and linux fdisk to handle linux partitions.

One more thing :
when Linux boots up it id's your hdd. make sure that the chs values you see
there match what's in the bios. Linux needs the bios just to boot . After
that it handles the disk on its own.

Windows needs the bios completely , and will follow what's said in the bios.

so if linux has partitioned the drive using it's values,  then when dos
comes along it goes nuts because the partition table's values are not
compatable with what's in the bios settings. that Partition table was
written by linux's fdisk which looked at the hdd the way the kernel saw it.
Not the bios.

The converse is also true - windows lays down the partition table. Then when
linux boots, it ignores the bios and uses its own routines, hence sees the
hdd with different chs values.
Bottom line : Both the chs values in the bios and what the linux kernel
reports as it boots up have to match.

good luck.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: What's the best linux software for cloning audio CD's?
Date: 17 Jul 2000 14:33:16 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Mon, 17 Jul 2000 14:04:18 GMT, Vlar Schreidlocke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Which version? I have xcdroast 96ex and I don't think it uses
>cdparanoia.

I believe you can force Xcdroast to use cdparanoia.  However, I can't
remember how you would go about doing that--it's in the Xcdroast docs...
Ah, there it is.  "xcdroast --use-cdparanoia".  Of course, you have to
have cdparanoia available in your $PATH.  HTH,

-- 
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"Man could not look too long into the face of the Computer or her
children and still remain as Man." --David Zindell  "So did they become
as Gods, or as Usenetters?" --Matt G



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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PPP compression revisited
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 10:38:23 -0400


Micromans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:Ievc5.17779$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> If I put these lines into the /etc/conf.modules file what useful thing
will
> it actually do? (besides get rid of the warnings messages).
>
> Micromans
I am not sure but on a line that works at 28-33k ( with a 56 k modem , but I
am too far from the exchange to get the > 33.6 K advantage), I am seeing
netscape do sustained transfers of 5-4KB/s
Also I use ftp to get things. It hovers between 5 KB and 4.7KB depending on
the site ( ftp.cdrom.com usually)




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Animated screen capture.
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 15:03:49 GMT

I thought of a moethod similar to that.

Get gnuplot to output to postscript. Convert those files to jpeg
(somehow) then use the program [animate]. But that doesn't give me an
.avi file that I could use in powerpoint. So I'm still stuck.



In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Ben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> des3das wrote:
> >
> >
> > I working in an Engineering environment and I have a set of time
> > dependant graphs which I wish to display. If I use gnuplot and plot
the
> > graph one after each other I get an animated display. What I want to
do
> > is to save the animation as an .avi or .mpeg file. So I'm trying to
find
> > a program like Lotus's ScreenCam which grabs the images on screen
and
> > converts it to an .avi file.
> >
> > Of course if there is a way of just converting my (graph)data file
> > direct to a moving image and not using gnuplot, all the better.
> >
> > Thanks for any help
> >
> > Duncan
> >
>
> It is certainly possible to ask gnuplot to output to a file rather
than
> the screen. Output each graph with a common prefix, then sequential
> numbers. (depending on how many frames you actually have, you might be
> able to do this manually, or want to figure out a cute, automated way
to
> do it.) Then, use Adobe Premiere or something to stitch these into an
> animation.
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: web server: internal error
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 15:24:03 GMT

Hi,

we just installed a sql based web server that runs web application in
perl/html.  When users try to log in, they get the internal error
message. httpd is still running.  what might be the problem?.

email me a copy of your helping post reply.
thanx.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: Re: Tarball definition
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 17 Jul 2000 10:38:40 -0500

In article <8kf75a$p35$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Big Daddy wrote:
>
>TYPICALLY SPEAKING, .tar.gz file are referred to as tarballs; however,
>as it is just simple convention, there is no real "right" or "wrong".
>Additionally, it's relatively rare that a file that is tar'ed won't be
>gzip'ed.  That is not to say you won't come across that, but I'd say in
>>95% of the time, a .tar file will also be gzip'ed if it is made
>available on the web.

Except that .tar files are very portable, say from Linux to AIX or vice
versa.  But many "standard" Unixes do not support gzip compression/
decompression in their tar command.  (And probably have no gzip command 
either--the old Unix standard was "compress" which creates a ".tar.Z" 
file.)

-- 
Dave Brown  Austin, TX

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Subject: Re: telnet  logs??
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Skj�ldebrand)
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 15:44:26 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows) writes:

> On Mon, 17 Jul 2000 13:52:59 +0100, ed johnson 
> <<8kuvla$6kd$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
> >Does anyone know which log I look in to see what a specific user has done
> >when he telnets in. he uses bash as his shell ???
> 
> There isn't a true telnet-logger unless you've put one in yourself--check
> http://freshmeat.net/ and search for "log" if you really want one, or you
> can cobble something together with tcpdump+ethereal if you want to see the
> raw TCP/IP packets from all telnet sessions.  You can easily look in
> ~user/.bash_history to see the shell commands the user has executed.  
> This may not provide enough information for you, but it's a start.

Yes ~/.bash-history is a good place to start
/var/log/messages and other files there is another intersting area on
your disk.

Someone been nasty to you? Install ssh. Loose telnet.

Martin S.

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From: "Simon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Load Balancing
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 16:48:47 +0100

Upgrading to 2 x 2MB pipes, need to know if there is a load balancing
package for RedHat 6.2??

The lines are coming from independent ISP's for maximum redundancy. If
someone has any ideas it would be much appreciated..

TIA

Simon





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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: Re: Telnet and Backspace Problem
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 17 Jul 2000 10:48:15 -0500

Tom Hoffmann wrote:
>When I telnet into our HP-UX and AIX boxes from Linux, neither the
>backspace key or left-arrow key erase the previous character as they do
>when I am in a normal bash shell.
>I have looked in man telnet and did not see anything there that would
>help.  I did see a reference to a .telnetrc file, but can not locate
>anything of substance regarding it.  It is possible the answer lies
>there.  Can someone point me to a source of information that I could
>use to solve this problem.  I am getting tired of CTRL-C'ing every time
>I make a typo and having to retype the entire command.  Thanks.

It's a mess!  Other respondents have mentioned the stty command, and 
that helps.  But I still have problems between the Linux console (which 
uses ^?) and xterms (which "usually" use ^H) unless you're in a "STDIN"
situation.  But instead of using ^C when you typo, try ^U and/or ^W.
This will/may clear the line or delete the "current word"--again, depending 
on which terminal emulator you're using.   (The "^" indicates the "control"
key.)

-- 
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From: Rafael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Printing - Count printed Pages?
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 14:13:09 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

At our work we was using NT Server , now we are switching to Linux, but
we have problem with founding how to count number of pages printed by
user.
Please help us!
In NT we was using Pcounter software.
There should be some sollution in Linux.


Rafael


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From: Kerry Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Limiting open files
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 09:52:37 -0600

Howdy. I have a meteor card running that is capturing images from off
traffic cams and then inserting them into web pages. However, every 12
hours or so, I get the "VFS error, 4096, too many open files" 
I have been using "lsof" to determine what files are being left open. I
am assuming that it's the program itself that is causing the files to be
left open since the same thing is happening on three different machines
each running different configs of the same program.
What is the best way to auitomate slaying off some of these open files?
Any ideas would be appreciated.
KJ

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Crossposted-To: 
alt.comp.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup
From: "ne..." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PROBLEM: KERNEL 2.2.14
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 15:54:56 GMT

On Jul 17, 2000 at 09:50, Thomas Adams eloquently wrote:

>I am working on kernel 2.2.14 as a new linux user.
>Mandrake installed linux version 2.2.14 without any
>kernel source files.
That is because you did not install the kernel source
rpm.

>When I downloaded version 2.2.14 I ended up with a
>lot less 'stuff' than with version 2.2.16.  So I am having
>a lot of trouble running commands (menuconfig, xconfig)
>under 14 that work great under 16.  I lacked a lot of
>important files under the 'net' subdirectory.  For example,
>I lacked Config.in in the 'net' subdirectory.  You seem
>to be bailing out of that directory, so maybe you have
>files missing there.
See above.

>I haven't determined if I'm unpacking things wrong or
>if version 2.2.14 is deficient.  I need help here myself.
As root do the following:

1) cd /usr/src
2) ls -al and make sure 'linux' is a link to linux-<kernelversion>.
   If it is not 'mv linux linux-<kernelversion>'.
3) rm linux
4) tar xzf /path/to/kernel/source/linux-<version>.tar.gz or
   tar --use-compress-program bunzip -xf /path/to/kernel/source/linux-<version>.tar.bz2
5) mv linux linux-<version>
6) ln -s linux-<version> linux
7) cd linux
8) make menuconfig etc.......


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is never apparent to their wives until after breakfast.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Cannot write into a read only file ?????
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 15:51:48 GMT

Hi,

Can anybody tell me why the following message always come out into my
screen, but not everytime ?

' Cannot write into a read only file '

I am using WIndows98 as client to connect to Linux Samba Server for
file sharing.

The message always come out when i am trying to update some of my
database file under the directory /homr/myfiles/

Note : not everytime

This is what i did to change the ownership and the permission for my
directorys and files.

1. I change the ownership of the following directory by typing

chown -R root.capatin /home/myfiles/

Note : i belongs to a group name 'captain'

2. Then i chnage the file permission by typing

chmod -R 2770 /home/myfiles/

After that, i saw the permission change to -rwxrws---

3. Then i start running my database program from Windows98 and get the
resources from the Linux Samba Server.

Note : my database programs is a multiuser program, it allows multiuser
to login and use the resources at the same time by using differnet
login name and this is the reason why i set the permission for my group
by using 2770.

I founf that my database program is running smmothly but sometimes the
following message come out into differnet user's screen, but not
everytime
' Cannot write into a read only file '

Note: all of the users belongs to group name 'captain'

5. I did check with the attribute for my files from Windows98 and all
are set to +A

So What's wrong ?
Please help ! Thanks.

Vincent


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From: Mark Sidarous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Which distro for newbie?
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 11:17:23 -0500

Never tried Linux before.
Which distribution should I use?



--Mark--        


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: Tarball definition
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 16:18:57 GMT

On 17 Jul 2000 10:38:40 -0500, Dave Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <8kf75a$p35$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Big Daddy wrote:
>>
>>TYPICALLY SPEAKING, .tar.gz file are referred to as tarballs; however,
>>as it is just simple convention, there is no real "right" or "wrong".
>>Additionally, it's relatively rare that a file that is tar'ed won't be
>>gzip'ed.  That is not to say you won't come across that, but I'd say in
>>>95% of the time, a .tar file will also be gzip'ed if it is made
>>available on the web.
>
>Except that .tar files are very portable, say from Linux to AIX or vice
>versa.  But many "standard" Unixes do not support gzip compression/
>decompression in their tar command.  (And probably have no gzip command 

        So?

        Just run gzip on the file and then untar it. You could even have
        a nice alias to make the whole process look as it would under
        Linux.

>either--the old Unix standard was "compress" which creates a ".tar.Z" 
>file.)

-- 
        The LGPL does infact tend to be used instead of the GPL in instances
        where merely reusing a component, while not actually altering that
        component, would be unecessarily burdensome to people seeking to build
        their own works.

        This dramatically alters the nature and usefulness of Free Software
        in practice, contrary to the 'all viral all the time' fantasy the
        anti-GPL cabal here would prefer one to believe.   
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From: "Vince Van De Coevering" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.mail.sendmail,comp.os.linux.networking,linux.redhat.digest
Subject: Re: Readhat domain name email setup
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 09:25:18 -0700

Newer versions of Redhat (6.1 and 6.2) come with those options
already configured.

In /etc/mail you'll find the virtusertable.txt file.  Use your favorite text
editor to make changes to the file.  Once the file has been edited type
"make" (which will make the hash file) and restart sendmail with
/etc/rc.d/init.d/sendmail restart

    Vince


<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8kncdd$he5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I am trying to setup an admin email box for a customer website. I want
> all mail for customer-domain-name.com to be delivered to home-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> On DEC UNIX there is a file that associates domain names to email
> accounts. This file sends all email for a particular domain to the home
> directory.
>
> On DEC UNIX, the name of this file is
> /etc/virtusertable.txt
>
> How is email for a domain name setup on Redhat Linux?
> Is there an equivalent file to /etc/virtusertable.txt on Redhat Linux?
>
> Your comments, suggestions, tips are welcome.
> I look forward to hearing from you. Thank you.
>
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: File Description under Apache 1.3.x
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 16:30:05 GMT


David Efflandt wrote:
 >
> >You can use the Apache directive "AddDescription" in httpd.conf to
> >add a short description, based on the file extension, or the filename.
> >For example: AddDescription "GZIP compressed document" .gz
> >will put "GZIP compressed document" next to all *.gz files.
> >You can also add descriptions for individual files, but to me this is
> >useless because you have to edit the httpd.conf file and restart Apache
> >whenever it changes. You are better off creating your own directory
> >index in index.html.
> 
> You can use AddDescription in .htaccess which can be specific to the
> directory and does not require restarting apache.  The conf file just
> needs to include Indexes (or All) in AllowOverride.  An example is
> http://www.de-srv.com/linux/ which also has a HEADER.html and README.html
> (which is really a footer).

OK I looked at the page ... that is exaclty what I want to be able to do...

Could you give a one line example what exactly goes into .htaccess ?? I
would really appreciate ....

Gabor

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Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 18:40:59 +0200
From: NeMons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Which distro for newbie?

Mark Sidarous wrote:
> 
> Never tried Linux before.
> Which distribution should I use?
> 
> --Mark--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: resizing partitions in linux
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 16:46:37 GMT


> You still need lilo as loader for linux. But you can reconfigure lilo
by
> editing /etc/lilo.conf and removing the entry for Windows. After that
> you have to reinstall lilo by running it.

You can also remove the prompt line from your lilo.conf. This causes
lilo to directly startup the default OS. If you need to change kernels,
you can always put the prompt back again.
Mike


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