Linux-Misc Digest #167, Volume #19               Wed, 24 Feb 99 22:13:09 EST

Contents:
  Re: Possible problems with kernel 2.2.1 (Ciaran J Anscomb)
  Re: Problems running shell scripts ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Need Quake 2 help under Linux (SlaveZero)
  Re: Can't use /bin/su (Neil Rickert)
  Re: Ultra Linux on a SS20? (Fredrik Lundholm)
  Re: Need Quake 2 help under Linux (Glen Scurr)
  selecting text under X (Dawid Michalczyk)
  Re: More bad news for NT (Bill Unruh)
  Re: Help: Screen streaks in X with ATI 3D Rage Pro (nine99)
  Re: High Priests of the Bazaar/Why Open Source does not work... who? (steve mcadams)
  Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Matthias Buelow)
  linking errors (AdmFrodos)
  shmmax ("Wojciech Oziminski")
  Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Bill Unruh)
  Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Matthias Buelow)
  Re: Red Hat's sick sense of humor (support) (Sam E. Trenholme)
  Re: Best version of Netscape 4.5 (George Durbridge)
  Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing? (Philip Brown)
  Re: Mail client for Linux
  Face it, linux is a piece of shit (Bill Gates)
  Re: NFS mystery (L J Bayuk)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ciaran J Anscomb)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Possible problems with kernel 2.2.1
Date: 22 Feb 1999 14:54:15 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ciaran J Anscomb)

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Sam Vere <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Sat, 20 Feb 1999 17:46:12 -0800, Tim Moore
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> [Sam wrote:]
>>> Firstly, the kernel sound support for the Ensoniq AudioPci appears not
>>> to work for .au files. Any ideas?
>>
>>Do you really think there is kernel code for .au support?
>
>Dunno, but it worked back when I was using OSS...

As indeed it should.  It's noted in Documentation/sound/es137? that .au
file (ALaw/uLaw) support isn't in that driver.  If the AudioPCI is based
on one of those, these files just won't work catted directly - try using
sox 'play' (or similar) instead.

>>Clues available at www.linuxhq.com.

And clues to you in the documentation.

..ciaran
-- 
cjj95 != me, but is paid for, enables posting and is used with permission.

Ciaran J Anscomb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Problems running shell scripts
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 22:33:31 GMT

In article <7asei7$ma2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I am trying to install the Frontpage Server extensions on RedHat Linux 5.2.  I
> do not seem to be able to run the install shell script.  It looks like a
> standard Bash script, but when I try to run it I get a "No such file or
> directory" error.  The file permissions are set to execute, I own the file and
> directory, I preface the command with "./", other bash scripts seem to run
> correctly (if I create them) and I am trying to run it as Root.  All to no
> avail.
>
> I tried deleting the entire contents of the file and writing a simple script
> to replace them, #! /bin/sh ls -la
>
> but I got the same error.  I deleted the file and recreated it from scratch
> with the same name and permissions and --Voila!  It worked just fine.
>
> Anyone got a clue as to what I am missing here?
>
> --Stephen Barner
>
> -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
> http://www.dejanews.com/       Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
>

I got that error message when I tried to install Star Office 5.0 on a system
that did not have glibc - after installing glibc, per info on the Star Office
CD, the install ran fine.

Jim
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: SlaveZero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Need Quake 2 help under Linux
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 19:56:12 -0500

I'm running SuSE Linux 6.0 and I've got all the necessary files to run
quake 2
but when I try to run it as root, I get this error:

recursive shutdown
Error: Couldn't load pics/colormap.pcx

I get this error for ./quake2 +set vid_ref soft, softx and gl. Please
help...

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Neil Rickert)
Subject: Re: Can't use /bin/su
Date: 24 Feb 1999 19:19:56 -0600

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>Something strange happened when I tried backing up my system the other
>night. The permissions on
>several files and directories (including / /bin/sh /bin/bash /etc/passwd)
>were set to 700. So users couldn't
>log on, among other things. I set the permissions back, but still no user
>except root can use /bin/su.
>When I try, I get the following response:

>su: cannot set groups: Operation not permitted

'su' should have permissions 4711, and needs to be owned by root.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fredrik Lundholm)
Crossposted-To: alt.sys.sun,comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Ultra Linux on a SS20?
Date: 24 Feb 1999 23:08:08 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Frank Sweetser  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Oliver Kuegow) writes:
>
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I just got a copy of UltraLinux1.1.9 on CDROM.
>> 
>> But somehow it doesn't boot up....

OK, which version of the install-program/image did you have? (date)

>> But unfortunately, after booting the kernel, it said:
>> Kernel Panic: Unable to mount root-fs at 00:00.

Could it be that the install-program doesn't find your CD-rom?
(Or do the CD-rom version come with a ramdisk as the tftpboot image?)

>ultralinux is (IIRC) only for ultrasparc machines, which the ss20 is not.
>try the regular redhat sparc distro.

Well I've run Ultralinux 1.1.9 on a SS10, and today on a beefed up SS4.
Both were installed with the tftpboot image and ftp/nfs-install resp.

The tftpboot image from Dec 15 does work/install on the SS10. (kernel
2.1.130 I believe)
The one I got today from ultra-linux.cz (tftpboot.img) (unknown
kernel, 2.1.131?? has some raid-benchmark compiled in)

does run on the SS4 but hang on the SS10 just after:
the ..Mounting root fs OK.... (the install-script doesn't start)

The SS10 is a twin 66MHz Hypersparc with 96 MB RAM, 2.25 prom, two 
fujitsu 2954 HD:s internally, CG6.

/wfr/

Fredrik Lundholm



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Glen Scurr)
Subject: Re: Need Quake 2 help under Linux
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 01:17:15 GMT

SlaveZero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>but when I try to run it as root, I get this error:
>
>recursive shutdown
>Error: Couldn't load pics/colormap.pcx
>
>I get this error for ./quake2 +set vid_ref soft, softx and gl. Please
>help...

I used to get a similar error under win95 if I forgot to put the CD in the CD
drive.  

Maybe you did less than a full install or you aren't using one of the latest
versions?  I think that later versions don't check for the CD.

I think it's something like that though.

glen

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From: Dawid Michalczyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: selecting text under X
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 02:49:53 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Hi,

When typing/editing under X, I want to be able to select text by using the
SHIFT+Arrow keys.This works fine from terminal, but not under X.Which files do I
need to edit and what exactly to put in them, to get this to work.I use RH5.1
with fvwm2.

Thanks in advance, David

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.linux
Subject: Re: More bad news for NT
Date: 25 Feb 1999 02:01:29 GMT

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Joan Higginz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Jon Wiest wrote:
>> I'd say the whole process of getting it going is pretty stupid.  Heck
>> setting up PPP requires me to read and absorb a 50 page HOWTO.  That's okay,
>> I like learning, but gawd, doesn't everybody want PPP?

>I set up ppp on Redhat 5.2 last night. I read  a single paragraph in a README
>file somewhere. Had it running in 5 minutes.
>(And I'm relatively new to Linux)
>Nobody "requires" to read and absorb a 50 page HOWTO.

The problem is if your ISP is a bit different than you expected. Then
the task can become much more tedious (see
http://axion.physics.ubc.ca/ppp-linux.html 
for some of the possibilities)

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From: nine99 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Help: Screen streaks in X with ATI 3D Rage Pro
Date: 25 Feb 1999 01:46:48 GMT

 
> He is running XFree86 3.3.2-8, using the Mach64 3.3.3.1-1 server.
> 


Have u given thought to the fact that your X is 3.3.2 and ur x server is 
3.3.3 ?

Try upgrading the whole thing to 3.3.3.1 and see if it helps

just a thought
nine

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve mcadams)
Subject: Re: High Priests of the Bazaar/Why Open Source does not work... who?
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 23:40:04 GMT

[Posted & mailed, snipped, quoted is ">"]
John Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Can you show me a
>commercial paint program that can do what the GIMP can that costs under
>a triple digit figure?

Does windows s/w count?  PaintShop Pro is extremely similar to gimp in
terms of capabilities and look/feel, at least as far as my experience
with them goes.  http://www.jasc.com, if I remember correctly it sells
for about $80 nowadays.  It could be better than gimp, or not as good.
I haven't learned the latest version of PSP that well yet, nor am I a
gimp expert, but I'd say they're definitely comparable.

> If commercial compilers are so great then who put the "doze" in Windoze?

I would say that the "doze" didn't come from a compiler, it came from
layer upon layer of increasingly unusable programming interfaces and
all the code you have to write to work around the system's
inadequacies and quirks.

Re open-source working or not working, I don't have personal
experience to know whether your conclusions are correct or not.  But
I'd be inclined to think they probably are, based on what I've seen of
Linux and other open-source code to date.
____________________________________________________________________________________
"The meaning of life is of dubious value..." -steve, http://www.codetools.com/showcase

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Buelow)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Date: 25 Feb 1999 02:13:06 GMT

In article <7b2alb$61u$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Bill Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>In <7b1t2v$mnn$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias
>Buelow) writes:
>
>>If you give your friend a book you wrote, you don't claim rights on
>>any intellectual results that person worked out with the insights
>>he[1] got from reading your book either.
>
>But if your friend copies out huge swagges of your book and puts them
>into his own book, you would have a perfect right to be upset ( even
>legally upset). If I publish a book where about all I have done is to
>replace your name with mine on the author location, I think you wouls
>also be upset.

Well, perhaps the example with the book isn't ideal, there usually
isn't free bookware.  I was more referring to intellectual work being
reused when permission was explicitly given to do so.

-- 
 - mkb

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (AdmFrodos)
Subject: linking errors
Date: 25 Feb 1999 02:16:09 GMT

I am compiling with the most recent version of g++ for Linux Slackware 2.0.29
and upon compiling I get the following errors:

/usr/lib/libncftp.a(rcmd.o): In function 'GetResponse':
"undefined refererence to '__sigsetjmp'"

I get 5 more of these errors to various functions within libncftp.a. 
Any suggestions?

Thanks!
rt


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From: "Wojciech Oziminski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: shmmax
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 00:26:57 +0100

I have a problem compiling a computational program for 2 processors.
 It says that i must increase value of SHMMAX. Could anybody tell me where
in kernel i can change this parameter ?
 Wojciech Oziminski.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Date: 25 Feb 1999 01:56:59 GMT

In <7b1t2v$mnn$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Buelow) writes:

>If you give your friend a book you wrote, you don't claim rights on
>any intellectual results that person worked out with the insights
>he[1] got from reading your book either.

But if your friend copies out huge swagges of your book and puts them
into his own book, you would have a perfect right to be upset ( even
legally upset). If I publish a book where about all I have done is to
replace your name with mine on the author location, I think you wouls
also be upset.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Buelow)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Date: 25 Feb 1999 02:19:37 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
jik-  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> While it is certainly a good thing to trade out of free will, to
>> offer software at liberal terms for which you have used other free
>> software, demanding this immediately destroys the good spirit.
>> It impoverishes both the donor as well as the receiver of the free
>> software gift.
>
>Under this argument, shouldn't all "free" code be public domain?  Why
>have any licence at all?

I don't know exactly about the legal issues but it is in my
understanding that it is perhaps possible for someone to attach
a copyright on his own to public domain software and such being
able to make it completely proprietary (so that you cannot legally
share it anymore).  Of course if something says "this is in the
public domain", I would think that this would have to be respected
in a law suit but I'm not sure.  Attaching a copyright to your
work is always a good idea, imho, if not a necessity.
For programmers who want to use parts of a program it's of course
the best situation;  when I find something that is in the public
domain, I can just use parts from it and won't get a headache
over possible license problems.  However, something like the BSD
copyright gives you almost the same freedom and still allows
the authors to keep copyrights attached.

-- 
 - mkb

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam E. Trenholme)
Subject: Re: Red Hat's sick sense of humor (support)
Date: 24 Feb 1999 18:46:52 -0800

>I think dejanews should get some kind of royalties for all the help
>they provide people! :-0

Dejanews directly benefits from Linux.  Namely, most or all of their
machines are Linux machines.

- Sam

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (George Durbridge)
Crossposted-To: linux.news,linux.redhat.misc,alt.os.linux,aus.computers.linux
Subject: Re: Best version of Netscape 4.5
Date: 24 Feb 1999 11:54:38 GMT

Jason,

I've not looked at Netscape licensing terms, but a) do they actually 
incorporate the US restrictions, or do those simply apply as a matter of 
US domestic law, wherever that runs, and b) isn't Netscape 4.5 open 
source ?

George

Jason Stokes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Paul Taylor
: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

: >The beauty of Fortify is that is contains no encryption algorithms, so
: >doesn't have the export restrictions of the 128-bit version (which you
: >probably shouldn't have in France.  :)  

: The law probably disagrees with you. According to the README file, it
: contains the "information" on how to modify Netscape's internal
: encryption algorithms to use 128 bit long keys, and gives Netscape this
: functionality by performing a binary patch on the Netscape executable. 
: This is extremely legally iffy: in fact, it is, in my opinion, quite
: clearly illegal: consider the following:

: US export controls on cryptographic software.

: Recently passed US laws banning reverse engineering of software.

: International copyright law which protects the license given to you
: with Netscape which forbids you from modifying or reverse engineering
: the software.

: -- 
: Jason Stokes: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:  

--
/* George Durbridge  Melbourne, Victoria, Australia */
/* tel (03) 9280 3390            fax (03) 9280 3288 */


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Brown)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 24 Feb 1999 18:37:25 GMT

On Wed, 24 Feb 1999 15:57:35 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>In comp.os.linux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>| Intel Xeon processor + NX chipset can support up to 8GB DRAM. Is there any
>| Linux support for this? If not, does anyone know if it's in the works?
>
>AFAIK, Linux has a 4GB virtual RAM limitation at the moment.  Sorry.

even on alpha? orjust intel?



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To:  uk.comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Mail client for Linux
Date: 25 Feb 1999 02:47:47 GMT

On Fri, 19 Feb 1999 23:48:57 +0000, Matthew Malthouse 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Marco Tephlant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>} No, quite right but having to use Netscape just to read POP3 mail (and
>not even
>} multiple accounts at that) is ridiculous.  I have more than one POP3
>account
>} (like
>} the person who started the thread) so it's not much use as an Email
>client,  and
>} isnt even very good at what it's main job is supposed to be - Web
>browsing!
>
>Found out the other day that kmail can do multiple mail accts (but the
>adddress book doens't work).


I found a neat little GUI mail program. Give it a try. It's xfmail.
It works pretty good.


---
"I will have the most ethical administration in history."
Bill Clinton;   Nov. 1992

Yeah, right....

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Gates)
Subject: Face it, linux is a piece of shit
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 18:22:42 GMT

I have to work on this crummy os and it's hateful.

Long live Bill, errrrr...... me!


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (L J Bayuk)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: NFS mystery
Date: 25 Feb 1999 02:53:13 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Hi,
>
>
>I'm trying to NFS mount a plain Linux 2.0.35 machine's exported
>directory on a host sporting an AFS/DFS kernel extension, and the
>mount fails with the message:
>
> Feb 24 11:25:00 wizard nfsd[115]: NFS request from
>druid.watson.ibm.com         originated on insecure port,
>psychoanalysis suggested 
>
>in /usr/adm/syslog. The same directory mounts without a fuss on
>other hosts.
>
>Any suggestions as to what this means?

It means the mounting host originates NFS connections
from ports numbered above 1024. Not that using ports
below 1024 gives any real security anyway.
I get this from a Domain/OS host mounting a Linux export.
You need to use the "insecure" option in /etc/exports
to allow this host to mount the NFS export anyway.
See man 5 exports.

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