Linux-Misc Digest #167, Volume #20 Wed, 12 May 99 11:13:10 EDT
Contents:
Redhat 4.2 / Interbase Version 4 (Josef Dirnberger)
Re: Linux on K62 ok? (Biomorph)
Re: New user needing help (Jon Skeet)
Re: Retaining values from /proc/sys? (Jon Skeet)
Re: mail gathering ("Gary S. Mackay")
X Windows question. Some windows outside the screen. ("Sergei Gerasenko")
Re: How to Dialup to Linux Server !? (Bill Unruh)
Re: New user needing help (Mark Tranchant)
Re: libstdc++ 2.8.1 on g++ 2.7.2.3? (Mark Tranchant)
Gnu make question ($$@) (Victor Eijkhout)
Re: Linux on K62 ok? (Tony Grant)
Re: Proper use of /usr/local (Re: The Best Linux distribution?) (John Fieber)
glib/gtk problems (hellraiser)
Re: glib/gtk problems ("Spud")
Re: How to install linux on large drives (Alan.J.Thackray)
Re: 2.2.x Kernel woes (brian moore)
Patching problems... ("Spud")
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From: Josef Dirnberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Redhat 4.2 / Interbase Version 4
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:11:28 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
as interbase version 4 is free for use - but guaranted to run only with
rh 4.2 - i'm looking for a source for rh 4.2 ... does somebody know
where to get such a rather old version ... or has somebody experiance
in interbase version 4 together with newer rh-versions e.g. 5.1 or 5.2
?
josef dirnberger
email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Biomorph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux on K62 ok?
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 05:50:17 +0200
Anthony Hook wrote:
>
> I'm considering upgrading my ageing P120.
>
> Have any of you experienced problems running Linux on one of those K62 (&
> K63) chips?
>
> Are there any motherboards I should watch out for?
>
> Thanks a lot.
>
> Anthony
> UK.
Hi,
Steer away from motherboards with SiS onboard video. In my experience
they are next to impossible to configure for xwindows setup.
Apart from that I find linux is working ok om a K6-2-3D 350 Mhz chip
with 128 Mb RAM and an IBM 10.2 Gb drive.
Regards,
/ - Biomorph.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon Skeet)
Subject: Re: New user needing help
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 13:28:56 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I bought the Redhat 5.2 version a few months ago. After installing it
> the first time, I found the interface to be a little intimidating (both
> command line and X).
>
> I guess one of my biggest problems is the lack of support for commands,
> kind of like trying to figure out DOS commands. Does anyone know where I
> can find a comprehensive listing of commands, and their variables?
Man pages are your friend - but I agree, it's often tricky to guess what
you have to "man" in the first place. This is where apropos is useful.
For example, typing "apropos dir" will list all the man pages which have
"dir" in their subject.
I once considered doing a DOS<->Unix translation table, but never got
round to it... I'm sure if you come up with a list of DOS commands you
want on Unix, someone here would be happy to translate them for you where
possible.
> I have tried to find the contents of my hard drive but everytime I do a
> ls in a directory, if the list is more than a page, it goes by so fast
> that I reaaly have no idea what is in the directory. Any ideas?
Well, you can try using shift and pgup/pgdn to scroll the console or
xterm around to see more, or type
ls | less
to bring it up in a scrollable viewer.
--
Jon Skeet - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.pobox.com/~skeet/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon Skeet)
Subject: Re: Retaining values from /proc/sys?
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 13:38:16 +0100
(Thanks to Mark for a similar answer, btw.)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Jon Skeet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I did the changes by just writing to the file
> > (eg echo 16384 > /proc/sys/fs/file-max) but on rebooting, the values were
> > back to their original states.
>
> > I thought they were supposed to stay as I'd set them across reboots?
>
> Nope. It doesn't happen.
Darn.
> > If not, could someone tell me how I *can* change them permanently?
>
> Create a script called something like /etc/rc.boot/0echo-to-proc which
> contains:
>
> #!/bin/sh
> echo -n "Echoing 16384 to /proc/sys/fs/file-max: "
> echo 16384 > /proc/sys/fs/file-max
> echo "done."
>
> Add whatever else you want to add in a similar style. Make the script
> executable. Viola! Settings are done automagically at boot time. Hope that
> helps.
Blech. That's pretty ugly. Oh well... thanks for clearing it up, anyway.
--
Jon Skeet - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.pobox.com/~skeet/
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Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 09:34:38 -0400
From: "Gary S. Mackay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mail gathering
Use fetchmail. Create a .fetchmailrc file in your /root directory
containing the lines to pull down everything in the [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailbox and feed it to procmail.
for example:
set daemon 60
poll mail.domain.com
protocol pop3
user mbox there is root here
password <whatever it is>
mda "formail -s procmail"
This tells fetchmail to check the mailbox every 60 seconds and pass it
on to procmail to be sorted. (You said you already have the recipes
right)
- Gary
Yan Seiner wrote:
>
> My web site hosting service is getting rid of procmail, so I need to set
> up an email handler on my server.
>
> All of the mail coming in to 2 domains will be forwarded to a single
> box: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From there, I need to collect it and process it
> with procmail. I have the recipes for procmail, and sendmail works, all
> I need is a way to get the mail from the [EMAIL PROTECTED] to my local
> server.
>
> I'm not an expert in mail, so any advice on how to do this would be
> welcome.
>
> Yan
--
Edison Information Technologies
P.O. Box 554
Milan, OH 44846-0554
419.499.7040
www.EdisonInfo.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Sergei Gerasenko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup,uc.linuxusers
Subject: X Windows question. Some windows outside the screen.
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 00:09:06 -0400
Hi everybody,
I set up my X WIndows and I'm using tvm as the window manager. It works fine
except I think there is something wrong with the way Linux recognizes the
resolution of my monitor. First I had a virtual desktop setting in
XF86Config. It was really annoying. I got rid off the setting, but the
problem I have been having is that some programs place parts of their
windows outside the boundaries of my display (as if they thought I have a
800x600 instead of 640x480 monitor ). Especially Netscape. Even if I
specify a geometry, it does not affect other windows that Netscape creates.
It's impossible to resize them afterwards too. So, my
question is, can I do something about it? I know that tvm has a variable
called MaxWindowSize or something like that, but for the life of me I can't
figure out the syntax. The man page was really vague about it. It just said
"MaxWindowSize string"
Does anyone know the right format of that variable? I can probably specify
something in .Xdefaults for Netscape too, but I don't know what. So, if
anybody has any ideas on how to solve the problem, I would appreciate it.
P.S. By the way, Netscape takes so much memory that it's not funny. Explorer
is much more resource efficient.
Cheers,
Sergei
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: How to Dialup to Linux Server !?
Date: 12 May 1999 04:12:37 GMT
In <Fx6_2.30759$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hartmann
Schaffer) writes:
]In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
] Chow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
]> Is it possible to dialup to Linux Server from Linux workstation or
]> other platform ?
]> If it can, would you please to teach me how to setup it ??
]Me too please. I have been particular unsuccessful setting up, and I
]haveen;t gotten any response to my inquiries.
Step 1
Get and install mgetty.
Step 2
Configure mgetty
Decide if you want login authentication (user logs on and runs pppd after he has
logged
on) or pap/chap (set up the AutoPPP in /etc/mgetty*/login.config)
Step 3
put the line
S0:2345:respawn:/usr/local/sbin/mgetty ttyS0
into /etc/inittab
(changing S0 and ttyS0 to whatever the port is that your modem is on)
To get voluminous debugging, put -x 8 after mgetty, and change the lines debug 4 (or
debug 3) in /etc/
/etc/mgett*/mgetty.conf to debug 8. Then look in /var/log/mgetty.ttyS?
Step 3
Dial in and enjoy
(Of course step 2 can take a bit longer, but here is not the place to write a 10 page
essay on how to set
up mgetty.)
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From: Mark Tranchant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: New user needing help
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:46:23 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Buy a decent book!!
Mark.
Jon Skeet wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > I bought the Redhat 5.2 version a few months ago. After installing it
> > the first time, I found the interface to be a little intimidating (both
> > command line and X).
> >
> > I guess one of my biggest problems is the lack of support for commands,
> > kind of like trying to figure out DOS commands. Does anyone know where I
> > can find a comprehensive listing of commands, and their variables?
>
> Man pages are your friend - but I agree, it's often tricky to guess what
> you have to "man" in the first place. This is where apropos is useful.
> For example, typing "apropos dir" will list all the man pages which have
> "dir" in their subject.
>
> I once considered doing a DOS<->Unix translation table, but never got
> round to it... I'm sure if you come up with a list of DOS commands you
> want on Unix, someone here would be happy to translate them for you where
> possible.
>
> > I have tried to find the contents of my hard drive but everytime I do a
> > ls in a directory, if the list is more than a page, it goes by so fast
> > that I reaaly have no idea what is in the directory. Any ideas?
>
> Well, you can try using shift and pgup/pgdn to scroll the console or
> xterm around to see more, or type
>
> ls | less
>
> to bring it up in a scrollable viewer.
>
> --
> Jon Skeet - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.pobox.com/~skeet/
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From: Mark Tranchant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: libstdc++ 2.8.1 on g++ 2.7.2.3?
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:45:07 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> hi
>
> I am looking for a bit of advice about installing the libstdc++ 2.8.1
> package on my Linux machine.
>
> I have had advice that since I am running the following system:
> - linux 2.0.35
> - gcc 2.7.2.3
> - libc 5.4.46
>
> saying I should not upgrade to gcc-2.8.1 (one problem is that it is not
> intended to compile the 2.0.xx series of the kernel and I dont have the
> time or the resources to upgrade to glibc6 and hence kernel 2.2.xx. :-)
> )
You don't need to install glibc2 (libc6) to upgrade to 2.2.x. The kernel
itself doesn't use the C library (how could it?).
I suggest you use egcs-1.1.2 instead - egcs is now the "official" gcc.
Mark.
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From: Victor Eijkhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Gnu make question ($$@)
Date: 12 May 1999 04:20:25 -0400
I'm probably in the wrong group, so feel free to redirect me ...
I have Redhat linux, so I'm using gnu make. I have a rule:
x y z : file1.o file2.o [email protected]
$(LINKER) -o [email protected] file1.o file2.o [email protected]
Trying to "make x" gives an error msg that "[email protected]" could not be found.
This same makefile worked fine on solaris & such.
--
Victor Eijkhout
"What i understood he said was that it is a sick society that allows
children to go to school dressed in black trenchcoats."
[phil, on Charlton Heston's speech to the NRA]
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From: Tony Grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux on K62 ok?
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:14:04 +0000
Anthony Hook wrote:
>
> I'm considering upgrading my ageing P120.
>
> Have any of you experienced problems running Linux on one of those K62 (&
> K63) chips?
>
> Are there any motherboards I should watch out for?
Problem with USR Sportster internal ISDN T/A.
No other problems since October on two K6-2 300's on MSI motherboards.
One is a server and the other a workstation.
The server was crossgraded to Celleron 333 in order to get ISDN to work.
Some games don't run too well
Cheers
Tony
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Fieber)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Proper use of /usr/local (Re: The Best Linux distribution?)
Date: 12 May 1999 14:21:29 GMT
In article <7has01$kea$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell) writes:
> In article <7haktd$7f$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>In article <7hadqc$j43$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>
>>That makes some sense, but it seems like a bad way of covering up the
>>fact that Linux distributors *caused* the problem in the first place by
>>including too much "stuff" in the base install.
>
> Philosophically I almost agree, but practically I just drop in another
> hard drive and have a chuckle about how they cost 10 times as much
> a few years ago.
But everything you add brings potential bugs, exploitable or merely
annoying, never mind the general clutter. A policy of not installing
anything you don't need and use goes a long way towards a reliable and
easy to maintain system.
To that end, finer granularity in of the basic FreeBSD core would be
nice. The flip side is managing complex dependencies between the
pieces. You simply don't have to worry about it when the main OS
core is a monolithic distribution. I don't care how good the
packaging system is, botched dependencies will always bite you at
some point.
-john
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From: hellraiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.windows.x
Subject: glib/gtk problems
Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 22:25:38 -0400
i just compiled and installed glib-1.2.3 without any problems. now when
i run the configure script for gtk+-1.2.3 it says it can't find
glib-1.2.3. why is it doing this?? nothing went wrong at all with glib
and it installed in the proper directories and everything. any ideas?
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From: "Spud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: glib/gtk problems
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 05:03:34 GMT
Run 'ldconfig'
>i just compiled and installed glib-1.2.3 without any problems. now when
>i run the configure script for gtk+-1.2.3 it says it can't find
>glib-1.2.3. why is it doing this?? nothing went wrong at all with glib
>and it installed in the proper directories and everything. any ideas?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alan.J.Thackray)
Subject: Re: How to install linux on large drives
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 13:30:02 GMT
The problem is the BIOS, which can only boot from a partition which
resides in the first 1024 cylinders. So put your system root "/"
partition here.
By enabling LBA in the bios, the actual disk geometry is translated so
the disk APPEARS to have less cylinders so more is available for the
root partition.
I don't know whether there is now any way round the 1024 limitation,
but put the root pattion at the front of the disk...
This always works for me anyway...
On Fri, 07 May 1999 14:59:28 +0100, Tom Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>Michael Wolf wrote:
>
>> I just bought a PC with a 9G drive and the first thing I tried to do was
>> install Linux (isn't that what everyone does?).
>>
>> I defragged the C: drive, got a newer version of fips so it could handle
>> FAT32 drives, then partitioned the drive into 2, the first with 6G and
>> then next with 3G (the 3G is where I want Linux to go to).
>>
>> I deleted the 2nd partition with DOS fdisk.
>>
>> I rebooted with my RedHat CD to install Linux 2.0.32.
>>
>> I went into the partition editor, added one primary partition, as number
>> 2, for swap (64M) and one primary partition, as number 3, for Linux
>> (the remainder of the space.
>>
>> Here is the problem. The fdisk with my RedHat distribution (RedHat
>> Linux Unleashed by SAMS verion 1.0) said the first available cylinder
>> was 964 and the highest was 1024.
>>
>> After giving 64M to swap, this left only 390M.
>>
>> I am assuming the fdisk with my distribution just can't handle drives
>> with more than 1024 cylinders.
>>
>> Is there a version of Linux fdisk that doesn't have this problem and if
>> so, how can I install from the CD and use the newer version of fdisk?
>
>I believe you can get round this by chhosing expert mode in fdisk (x) and
>manually entering the correct number of cylinders for the drive.
>
>--
>tom
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: 2.2.x Kernel woes
Date: 12 May 1999 05:04:45 GMT
On Tue, 11 May 1999 19:48:09 -0500,
Mike Roessing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> So, I am just wondering if anyone else has noticed a problem like this
> and if they fixed it. Or is it as simple as I actually have to set up
> IPCHAINS on the workstation? :-)
More likely that you haven't set up ipchains correctly on the gateway
machine. Also, with many (most?) IRC servers, they want an ident daemon
running on the system that is connecting: if you're masquerading, you'll
need to fake that so that the remote server is happy.
--
Brian Moore | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | a cockroach, except that the cockroach
Usenet Vandal | is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
Netscum, Bane of Elves. Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster
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From: "Spud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Patching problems...
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 05:08:02 GMT
I posted this to the gnome-list earlier this week but never got a reply.
Maybe someone here can help me. When trying to patch my mc-4.5.30 source
tree to 4.5.31, i get the following error:
Patching file mc-4.5.30/gnome/mc.keys.in.in using Plan A...
Hunk #1 succeeded at 1.
Hunk #2 succeeded at 109.
Hunk #3 succeeded at 132.
Hunk #4 succeeded at 142.
Hunk #5 succeeded at 220.
Hunk #6 succeeded at 234.
Hunk #7 succeeded at 263.
patch: **** malformed patch at line 6495: \ No newline at end of file
Now, no matter what source I have tried patching, I always get this
error. So I just remove the offending line, and the relevant source patches
fine. However, removing the line in this file produced the following error:
patch: **** malformed patch at line 6495:
So my only choice was to download the whole tarball of mc-4.5.31. Anyone
know why the source wouldn't patch? I've never had this problem patching the
kernel source. Thanks in advance.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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