Linux-Misc Digest #202, Volume #19 Sat, 27 Feb 99 06:13:08 EST
Contents:
Re: PCI 128 ("Beno�t Durand")
Re: Going from Win 98 and Office 97 to Linux and ???? (Izak Burger)
Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing? (Christopher B. Browne)
Re: Going from Win 98 and Office 97 to Linux and ???? (Robert Billing)
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Re: Can someone recomend an ASCII text editor for X, not X-Emacs.... ("David A.
Frantz")
Re: A few small questions from a novice (Bill Unruh)
Re: Customising Xdm (L J Bayuk)
Re: Going from Win 98 and Office 97 to Linux and ???? (Linux Newbie)
Re: High Priests of the Bazaar/Why Open Source does not work... who? (David Magda)
Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing? (David Magda)
Program to generate the Makefile? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: interested in linux... (David M. Cook)
LiLo boot Vs Partition-It ("M. Kluit")
Re: Clueless newbie modem question (Micha� Kuratczyk)
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Richard Steiner)
HELP, Suddenly binaries require libc.so.2 ???!! HELP (James Fillman)
Re: Super FTP User Access (T. Garay)
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From: "Beno�t Durand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: PCI 128
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 10:41:25 +0100
Does anyone here know the way to hear a midi sound with that soundcard ? What
shall I do with the waveset file ?
Jose Urena a �crit:
> Assuming you mean AudioPCI128 and Compatibles
>
> the drivers are part of the linux 2.2.x files, you might have to toggle
> on/off the prompting for new drivers
> use AudioPCI or Creative Labs AudioPCI
> there is no distinction between the 64 and 128 intrument card, Why? because
> the intruments are software based and that is not part of the driver
>
> David Buckley wrote:
>
> > Has any one got any idea where to get drivers, and how to get a PCI 128
> > working? I've got it working in windoze 95 & NT, but would like to get
> > it working in linux.
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From: Izak Burger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Going from Win 98 and Office 97 to Linux and ????
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 12:00:08 +0200
Have you tried Xesslite yet? You can get it somewhere on sunsite.unc.edu,
and if I remember correctly it was in rpm format.
regards
Izak
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 01:53:09 GMT
On Thu, 25 Feb 1999 19:13:33 -0500, David A. Frantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
>Robert Krawitz wrote in message ...
>>Job mixes that are more memory/IO than computation intensive (which is
>>the case for a lot of commercial data processing) would benefit
>>greatly from the availability of large memory on commodity hardware.
>
>Why would anyone do commercial data processing in large pools of main
>memory? Seems awfully risky. Actually large memory systems and heavy
>computation base apps go hand in hand.
If you have a *HUGE* amount of memory, the whole database can sit in
cache. Updates get written through and logged immediately, but mere
queries of data can be serviced "instantly" without a need to resort
to reading from disk.
So long as there's reliable copies on disk, having huge memory pools
is AOK...
--
Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
-- Henry Spencer <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - "What have you contributed to free software today?..."
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From: Robert Billing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Going from Win 98 and Office 97 to Linux and ????
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 09:17:51 +0000
Gregory Propf wrote:
> I honestly can't tell you much about spreadsheets. There's a commercial
> spreadsheet for Linux whose name escapes me right now but which reads
> Excel files.
The one in Applix works quite well.
--
I am Robert Billing, Christian, inventor, traveller, cook and animal
lover, I live near 0:46W 51:22N. http://www.tnglwood.demon.co.uk/
"Bother," said Pooh, "Eeyore, ready two photon torpedoes and lock
phasers on the Heffalump, Piglet, meet me in transporter room three"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: 26 Feb 1999 01:45:52 GMT
OK, I am showing my ignorance here... but I need to learn about these
type of things.
What's a microkernel vs. a macrokernel? What is the difference?
Someone please email me the answer privately instead of posting it
here... =)... This takes up a lot of people's bandwidth, and I don't
think everyone wants to hear the details... while I do. =)
- Mike
On 25 Feb 1999 14:25:50 -0800, Darin Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Ryan Cumming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> 4. Better gaming platform
>> (shudder)
>
>Really the only reason I keep Win95. Although it's also the only way
>I can dial into work presently (until I upgrade linux and get dhcp
>and such).
>
>> 6. One word: Microkernel
>
>Windows doesn't have a microkernel. Not even Windows NT. And
>a microkernel, _by_itself_, is neither better nor worse than
>a macrokernel.
>
>> 7. No mounting
>
>But stick with lettered partition names. This is a drawback as well
>as advantage.
>
>> 10. Better user support
>
>Very very debateable.
>
>--
>Darin Johnson
> Caution! Under no circumstances confuse the mesh with the
> interleave operator, except under confusing circumstances!
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From: "David A. Frantz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,pl.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Can someone recomend an ASCII text editor for X, not X-Emacs....
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 18:02:22 -0500
I will give VIM a second vote here as it will fit your requirements fairly
well. You might also want ot look at Grasp it is a very different sort of
editor with really nice output options. I don't have the URL handy but
search the web for Grasp or PCGrasp.
Dave
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message <7b1k6s$54s$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>
>
>Try a nifty one called "VIM", which is vi with syntax coloring and all the
>stupidities of vi fixed.
>
>Another good one (though I am unsure if you have to buy it or if it is
>free for Linux) is CRiSP.
>
>
>
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Miernik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Can someone recomend an ASCII text editor for X, not X-Emacs....
>>
>> I want it to have sophisticated functions, like syntax highliting for
HTML, C,
>> and LaTeX,
>> rectangle selecting, line numbering, capitalization conversion, and so
on.
>>
>> But I do not want it to be so big and load such a long time like X-Emacs
2.0,
>> and first of all do not have such stupid menus and dialogs....
>>
>> The file opening dialog in X-Emacs is crazy, and also I cannot select
blocks
>> of text by holding <shift> and moving the cursor.
>>
>> thanks....
>>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: A few small questions from a novice
Date: 27 Feb 1999 10:06:31 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
] Bill> Actually the ppp-off script is relatively useless. It does
] Bill> not allwo the user to kill the script, mainly because the
] Bill> lock file (whic ppp-off uses to find the number of the
] Bill> process to kill) is readable only by root, even if pppd was
]Dang, I've been using that script for a year and a half and never knew
]it didn't work. I wonder what has been causing my modem to hang up
]every time I invoked it. Must be that dead chicken I whirl over my
]head each time. If I log in as root, does that mean I can get rid of
]the chicken?
Ah!! So that is what I have been doing wrong so that my ppp-off script
does not work! Thanks for the hint.
Actually, perhaps we have different ppp-off scripts. Mine reads
/var/run/ppp0.pid to find the pid of the ppp process. However, that file
on my system is read only to root. As a result, even if the user started
the pppd session, the ppp-off script does not work as that user cannot
read that pid from that file.
What does yours do?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (L J Bayuk)
Subject: Re: Customising Xdm
Date: 26 Feb 1999 02:07:02 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Is there anyway to customise the Xdm login screen without hacking the
>source? I can get images to appear in the background, but have found no
>way of altering what gets displayed in the login window.
You can change some things in /usr/lib/X11/xdm/Xresources (path
may vary) like the greeting text, login prompt text, and colors.
The overall structure of xdm's login window isn't customizable.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Linux Newbie)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Going from Win 98 and Office 97 to Linux and ????
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 10:15:11 GMT
On Fri, 26 Feb 1999 12:22:02 -0500, Faheem Mitha
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I was wondering if someone would tell me how much HD space Staroffice
>occupies. My /usr subdirectory is extremely full (only 22 Meg remaining).
>My understanding is that Staroffice provides a spreadsheet facility which
>is similar to Excel and is compatible with Excel documents. Correct me if
>this is wrong.
>
>Also, does Wordperfect provide spreadsheet facilities? If so, are they
>compatible with Excel?
>
>A courtesy e-mail copy of any reply to the address [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
> Faheem Mitha.
I don't think 22MB would be enough to install SO. I think the install
is 100MB+. But you can select certain packages to install, but it
still might now fit on 22MB. I've used simple spreadsheets from Excel
in SO and it seems to work okay don't know about complicated formulas
and other things.
--
"Linux: The best things in life are free"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Magda)
Subject: Re: High Priests of the Bazaar/Why Open Source does not work... who?
Date: 26 Feb 1999 00:50:15 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
John Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[...]
>Open source didn't directly make the Internet so successful, I'll give
>him that. But apache is a dominant web server, it is open source, linux
Sendmail, bind, Bnews & then Cnews, ftpd. Weren't they open source. You'd
have a hard time running the Internet without the first two especially.
>is the dominant web server OS and it is open source. Even if it didn't
>make the internet so successful, it can't be denied that it has helped
Agreed.
>I don't mean to start some kind of flame war, just wanted to defend Open
>Source against the small minded thinkers.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, that's what Usenet is for. Of
course, whether they're right or not is a whole different ball game. :>
--
David Magda <dmagda at acs.ryerson.ca>, 2nd Year Electrical Eng.
"Well," said Pooh, "what I like best--" and then he had to stop and think.
Because although Eating Honey was a very good thing to do, there was a
moment just before you began to eat it which was better than when you were,
but he didn't know what it was called. -A.A.Milne,The House at Pooh Corner
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Magda)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing?
Date: 26 Feb 1999 00:56:23 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[...]
>I'm looking for an OS platform which will handle these large memories.
>NT addresses the >4GB range as a sort of "cache buffer" accessible only from
>user more. Normal NT kernel code will be able to access the lower 4GB only.
Linux on the Alpha? Sparc64? 2^64 is more than I'll ever need, that's for
sure.
--
David Magda <dmagda at acs.ryerson.ca>, 2nd Year Electrical Eng.
"Well," said Pooh, "what I like best--" and then he had to stop and think.
Because although Eating Honey was a very good thing to do, there was a
moment just before you began to eat it which was better than when you were,
but he didn't know what it was called. -A.A.Milne,The House at Pooh Corner
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Program to generate the Makefile?
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 10:14:20 GMT
I know the imake and configure can be used to generate Makefile.
Is there any other choice?
Thanks.
Steven Nie ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David M. Cook)
Subject: Re: interested in linux...
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 10:21:46 GMT
On 27 Feb 1999 07:22:45 GMT, Paul Erdos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>computer is: writing papers (ms word), programming (ms visual c++), and going
>online (aol), i didn't know how to do these same things in linux. is linux
>right for me, or is windows preferable for doing those limited tasks?
It depends on whether you are really interested in computing or just want to
use the computer as an appliance.
See http://pel.cs.byu.edu/~alen/computers/Linux/WhyLinux/ for an orientation
to Linux. See http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/unix.html#UNIXPHILOSOPHY for an
intro to unix.
For writing papers I prefer LaTeX. You can find a manual in pdf format here:
ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/packages/TeX/info/lshort/english/
You can also download a limited version of Word Perfect 8, or you could try
Star Office 5.0. The ApplixWare suite is only $80 or so.
For programming see http://members.home.com/davecook/devel
Linux is a much richer environment for programming. See also
http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html
As for AOL, I believe that you are stuck using their software to access
them. Get a real ISP if you can.
Dave Cook
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From: "M. Kluit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: LiLo boot Vs Partition-It
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 11:25:17 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
<html>
I changed my partition sizes with Quarterdeck Partition-It, but I didn't
do anything with my linux partitions.
<br>Now I get a Kernel Panic: can't mount root...
<br>What can I do?
<p>Maarten</html>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Micha� Kuratczyk)
Subject: Re: Clueless newbie modem question
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 10:34:08 GMT
Jet wrote:
>I have a BTC 56K modem with a PCtel PCT388P chipset. I'm using RH 5.2.
>I used modemtool to configure the port. When I start minicom, it shows
>the initializing modem message, then the terminal screen. When I try to
>dial, the timer starts up, but nothing happens. No sound, no dial tone,
>no error messages.
>
>Any idea what might be going on? Thanks. Be gentle, I'm a newbie.
Probably it is winmodem, so it works only under windows.
--
Micha� Kuratczyk
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 20:21:12 -0600
Here in comp.os.linux.misc, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John S. Dyson)
spake unto us, saying:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai Henningsen) writes:
>
>> Blatantly false. John is doing this. Linus isn't doing it. Read the
>> damn thread!
>
>Linus is the one using direct personal insults.
The only insult I saw him use in this thread is the offhand reference
to you being an anti-GPL bigot, something which seems somewhat founded
given your subsequent behavior in this particular thread.
Otherwise, he was certainly not criticizing your choice of licenses,
whereas you appear to be making constant little jabs, not only at his
choice of the GPL for the Linux kernel, but at all those others who
would even remotely consider the GPL as a viable license.
Why are you engaging in such behavior? It detracts from your message.
--
-Rich Steiner >>>---> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>---> Bloomington, MN
OS/2 + Linux (Slackware+RedHat+SuSE) + FreeBSD + Solaris + BeOS +
WinNT4 + Win95 + PC/GEOS + MacOS + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven!
Real programmers don't change light bulbs.
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From: James Fillman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: HELP, Suddenly binaries require libc.so.2 ???!! HELP
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 11:30:54 -0800
I'm running Redhat 5.1. The kernel is still 2.0.34.
The box is NOT connected to the net. All of the sudden
a number of binaries are failing because they say that
they require libc.so.2 to run. That library does not exist
on my system and i don't believe it even comes with
the Redhat 5.1 distro. Any ideas???
some of the binaries that are causing problems are:
top, less, more, in.telnetd, in.rlogind, joe
This is what i've tried:
- ran /sbin/ldconfig
- reinstalled a bunch of binaries for the libs, ldconfig, and all the binaries in
question
copied a working binary from another 5.1 system over and it still didn't work
- tried creating sym links for libc.so.2
I'm totally stumped....
Please help
jammer
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (T. Garay)
Subject: Re: Super FTP User Access
Date: 26 Feb 1999 20:10:38 GMT
On Thu, 25 Feb 1999 16:54:19 -0800, brucekey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>T. Garay wrote:
>>
>> How do I set up a user to have access to the whole system of files
>> just like ROOT or a superuser at the console?
>>
>> I've set everything to YES or whatever in ftpaccess. I gave myself
>> all rights. I set my home directory to /root
>>
>> I can download just about anything but I can't delete anything not in
>> my home directory and I can't write any files.
>>
>> I would really like to do some things remotely.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> -Tim
>
>Check /etc/hosts.equiv also, again, be FULLY aware of all the side
>effects of these actions, they can be dangerous!
It's merely temporary, I am setting up a new mail server on a newer
machine with a fresh install and I am trying to find the easiest way
of compying config files over without the text FTP program.
Actually, I solved the problem by changing the userid and groupid of
my account in the passwd file to 0 and 0. Works great now!
-Tim
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