Linux-Misc Digest #808, Volume #19               Sun, 11 Apr 99 15:13:08 EDT

Contents:
  Re: ? Linux community manage vs. chaos ? (Ewan Dunbar)
  Re: Standby Mode in Linux? (Gary Momarison)
  Re: Standby Mode in Linux? (digger)
  FTP or telnet scripting? (marek jedlinski)
  Can't ftp in special port through IPMASQ (Kelvin Leung)
  Re: Apache - no "/" after directory ??? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  what's the best browser for linux? (Charles Coombs)
  Re: Presentation tool for linux? (Daniel Savard)
  Re: Standby Mode in Linux? (digger)
  uninstall of RH5.2 ("Steve Merry")
  Re: uninstall of RH5.2 ("Martin R. Soderstrom")
  When did parallel port printing performance go to HELL? ("ELVIS")
  Re: what's the best browser for linux? (Thomas Zajic)

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From: Ewan Dunbar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ? Linux community manage vs. chaos ?
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 10:57:59 -0400

On 11 Apr 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi Linux community members,
> 
> How is it possible that Linux has succesfuly grown by contributions from
> so many different persons, without degenerating into chaos ?
> 
> Where did the structures originate, and become disciplined/enforced to:
>    collect bug reports and enhancements, to feed into next code update,
>    ..........................................documentation update,
>    enable contributions from dispersed outsiders, yet avoid chaos from
>           undiscipled/incompetent 'members',
>    allow division of labour, (specialisation) in co-operated efforts,
>     etc .............etc ?

Read "The Cathedral And The Bazaar" by Eric S. Raymond. I would think it
to be available at www.tuxedo.org but I can't seem to find it there. Ah,
wait -- here it is: http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/writings/cathedral-bazaar/

================================================
Ewan Dunbar
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Visit Preston Manning: Action Hero at
http://earl.thedunbars.com/pmah/index.html
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From: Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Standby Mode in Linux?
Date: 11 Apr 1999 09:11:52 -0700

Leigang Kou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hello,
> 
> I want to know if it is possible to set up a standby mode in the LINUX
> so that the monitor and harddisk can go off after some specified idle
> time, just like what Windoze does. I think it is a good feature. Sure, I
> can turn off the monitor, but I would like to have computer do it
> itself.

You'll want to use the "dpms" option of "xset" or certain screensavers.

More info in:

http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/power.html       - dpms
http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/x.html           - screensavers

Shutting down the drive is a little more tricky.  I've never worked
it out well.  Linux "syncs" the disks periodically which wakes them
up again if you're not careful. And "cron" jobs may run (maybe at
night) which also wake up the disks.  Read the "hdparm" man page.

-- 
Look for Linux info at http://www.dejanews.com/home_ps.shtml and in
Gary's Encyclopedia at http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/index.html

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From: digger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Standby Mode in Linux?
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 10:55:23 -0500


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 Thanks.

I tried it and it works. actually all details are in the man page of
XF86Config. your answer is good for root to set up the default value.
another answer i got is to use xset to let each user set up his own
choices.

thank all you nice gurus (or nerds). i like this linux family more and
more.:)

digger


 You have to add a few lines to your XF86Config file;
specifically, the "Option "power_saver" line in the "Device"
section and the BlankTime, StandbyTime and OffTime lines in
the "Screen" section:

 Section "Device"
     Identifier  "My Video Card"
     VendorName  "Unknown"
     BoardName   "Unknown"
     #VideoRam    8192
     # Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate
     Option "power_saver"

 EndSection


  #
 **********************************************************************
 # Screen sections
 #
 **********************************************************************
 # The accelerated servers
     Driver      "accel"
     Device      "My Video Card"
     Monitor     "My Monitor"
     BlankTime   5
     StandbyTime 10
     OffTime     15

 --

 -John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])




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&nbsp;Thanks.
<p>I tried it and it works. actually all details are in the man page of
<br>XF86Config. your answer is good for root to set up the default value.
<br>another answer i got is to use xset to let each user set up his own
<br>choices.
<p>thank all you nice gurus (or nerds). i like this linux family more and
<br>more.:)
<p>digger
<br>&nbsp;<i></i>
<p><i>&nbsp;You have to add a few lines to your XF86Config file;</i>
<br><i>specifically, the "Option "power_saver" line in the "Device"</i>
<br><i>section and the BlankTime, StandbyTime and OffTime lines in</i>
<br><i>the "Screen" section:</i><i></i>
<p><i>&nbsp;Section "Device"</i>
<br><i>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Identifier&nbsp; "My Video Card"</i>
<br><i>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; VendorName&nbsp; "Unknown"</i>
<br><i>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; BoardName&nbsp;&nbsp; "Unknown"</i>
<br><i>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; #VideoRam&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 8192</i>
<br><i>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; # Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate</i>
<br><i>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Option "power_saver"</i><i></i>
<p><i>&nbsp;EndSection</i>
<br><i></i>&nbsp;<i></i>
<p><i>&nbsp; #</i>
<br><i>&nbsp;**********************************************************************</i>
<br><i>&nbsp;# Screen sections</i>
<br><i>&nbsp;#</i>
<br><i>&nbsp;**********************************************************************</i>
<br><i>&nbsp;# The accelerated servers</i>
<br><i>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Driver&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "accel"</i>
<br><i>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Device&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "My
Video Card"</i>
<br><i>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Monitor&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "My Monitor"</i>
<br><i>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; BlankTime&nbsp;&nbsp; 5</i>
<br><i>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; StandbyTime 10</i>
<br><i>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; OffTime&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 15</i><i></i>
<p><i>&nbsp;--</i><i></i>
<p><i>&nbsp;-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])</i>
<br>&nbsp;
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (marek jedlinski)
Subject: FTP or telnet scripting?
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 17:27:21 GMT

(RH 5.1) 

I've looked at the manpage for the plain old ftp client, and it does
mention "macros" but doesn't really document them, so I'm stuck. I'm
looking for a way to run simple unattended ftp or telnet sessions -
basically to automatically a few files from my ISP's shell account (also
running on RH Linux, btw). Just connect, chdir, get and close. Telnet would
be nicer because I could also zip files before transfer. Is there anything
that can do that? Can the basic ftp client run non-interactively?

TIA,

.marek


--
General Frenetics, Discorporated: http://www.lodz.pdi.net/~eristic/
"This seems like a case where we need to shoot the messenger." (Charlie 
Kaufman on Cypherpunks list)


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From: Kelvin Leung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Can't ftp in special port through IPMASQ
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 17:33:29 GMT

Hello,

I got a IPmasq network setup for couple of years. Everything works fine
and great. My system is RH 5.1, 2.0.36. Yesterday I just try to login a
ftp site from Ipmasq client machine (running W95), the ftp site requires
special port number other than 21. I  got a messagge " 530 Only Client
IP address allowed for PORT command" in Cuteftp software in the Win95
client.

Question, does the ipmasq_ftp module support ftp through special port?
If not, what can I do?

Thanks.

Kelvin


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Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Apache - no "/" after directory ???
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 17:35:27 GMT


Boris wrote:

> > Does anyone know how to configure Apache so that users don't have to put a
> > slash after a sub-directory name?

Robert Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> replied :

> This is in the Apache FAQ:
> 
> http://www.apache.org/docs/misc/FAQ.html#set-servername
> 
> 9.Why does accessing directories only work when I include the trailing
> "/"
>       (e.g., http://foo.domain.com/~user/) but not when I omit it
>       (e.g., http://foo.domain.com/~user)? 

Thanks for the tip.  I do not believe this was in issue in Apache
1.2.x, as I only noticed it myself when I upgraded to Apache 1.3.x.
Those who upgraded without re-reading the instructions (as did I) may
wish to go back and do so!

-p.

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From: Charles Coombs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: what's the best browser for linux?
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 01:40:34 -0400

Hey Everybody,

Well, as most of you can probably relate to, I have been struggling to
keep my sanity using Netscape 4.0x on my linux machine.

Basically this thing sucks and it's buggy as hell.  So what's the 
strongest browser to use these days?  All I want is the browser,
not a news reader, not an email client just a browser that behaves
somewhere near as strong as the Netscape generation designed for
MS Windows OSs.  

Is the answer Netscape 4.5x series or have that not fixed the bugs
(which I can list some other time if you want).

Suggestions...?

Later.


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From: Daniel Savard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Presentation tool for linux?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 14:14:17 -0400

Le dim, 11 avr 1999, Scott Johnston a �crit :
>In article <7ep1n8$cq6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Kenny Zhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Is there any Linux applications for presentation purpose just like MS
>>Power Point?
>
>Not "just like MS Power Point", but ivtools flipbook can be used that
>way:  http://www.vectaport.com/ivtools/flipbook.html
>
>Scott Johnston
>Vectaport Inc.

Applixware includes a presentation module. Suitable to produce
overhead slides, 35 mmm slides or a screen slide-show like
MS PowerPoint or Freelance.

Daniel Savard

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From: digger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Standby Mode in Linux?
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 10:51:53 -0500

Thanks for your detailed instruction and tutorial. :)

it works!

digger

On Sun, 11 Apr 1999, Sean wrote:

> First of all, do NOT spin down your hard drive.  If you want to have your

> hard drive spun down, simply turn the machine off.  Hard disks are not
> designed to be power cycled, in fact their lifetimes are inversely
> proportional to the amount of power cycling that they must endure.  The
> amount of money you'll save in electricity will be on the order of a few
> cents a month, while the amount of money you'll lose when your drive goes

> belly up and takes your datat with it will be much greater indeed.
</rant>
>
> Now when it comes to monitors, shut the bugger down.  I use the following

> line in my $HOME/.xinitrc file:
>
>     xset dpms 0 1200 1800
>
> This will send the monitor into suspend mode after 20 minutes (suspend
mode
> uses less power, but the electron guns are kept hot, so you are still
aging
> the monitor), and after 30 minutes (10 minutes later) it will shut the
> monitor down, which also cuts off the electron guns, this being the major

> reason I like this feature.  The electricity to power a monitor is
> negligible in cost, but the electron guns in the back of the CRT do wear
> out, and their lifetimes are inversely proportional to the length of time

> they are on (this is why screensavers are evil -- today's color CRTs do
not
> suffer from phosphor-burn, so when a screensaver is running because you
> aren't using your monitor all you're doing is aging the monitor's
electron
> guns and hence shortening the monitor's lifespan).
>
> Sean
>



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From: "Steve Merry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: uninstall of RH5.2
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 18:25:45 GMT

can anyone help me ?

i've tried installing RH5.2 (unsuccessfully !) and have now removed the
linux partitions from my disk, reformatted them to FAT32, and made the free
space available for Win98.

only problem is that linux installed LILO as a boot manager, and i still
have to type 'win' in to  boot to windows. is there anyway of removing linux
completely ? (ie from the MBR too ??)

if you can help me, please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

thanks in advance

steve





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From: "Martin R. Soderstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: uninstall of RH5.2
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 18:31:43 GMT

Use window's Fdisk to clean out the MBR with:

Fdisk /mbr

Of course, my real advice is fdisk your Windows 98 partitions away and
reinstall Redhat. :)

Cheers,

-- Martin

Steve Merry wrote in message ...
>can anyone help me ?
>
>i've tried installing RH5.2 (unsuccessfully !) and have now removed the
>linux partitions from my disk, reformatted them to FAT32, and made the free
>space available for Win98.
>
>only problem is that linux installed LILO as a boot manager, and i still
>have to type 'win' in to  boot to windows. is there anyway of removing
linux
>completely ? (ie from the MBR too ??)
>
>if you can help me, please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>thanks in advance
>
>steve
>
>
>
>



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From: "ELVIS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: When did parallel port printing performance go to HELL?
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 14:30:30 -0400

I remember back in the 1.2.x days printing to the parallel port (and using
Linux as as TCP/IP print server) was fast and efficient.

What happened?

Since 2.0.x it's been dog slow (running 2.0.36).  I just moved my parallel
port attached printer to an NT box and pointed all the Linux/Samba print
queues back at the NT queue.

Print speed is acceptable again!  Isn't this BACKWARDS?  Isn't Linux
supposed to be better than NT at EVERYTHING?

Is 2.2.dejour better?

(No... there are no port/IRQ conflicts on the Linux box...)




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From: Thomas Zajic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: what's the best browser for linux?
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 18:35:00 GMT

Charles Coombs wrote:
> Hey Everybody,
> Well, as most of you can probably relate to, I have been struggling to
> keep my sanity using Netscape 4.0x on my linux machine.
> Basically this thing sucks and it's buggy as hell.  So what's the
> strongest browser to use these days?  All I want is the browser,
> not a news reader, not an email client just a browser that behaves
> somewhere near as strong as the Netscape generation designed for
> MS Windows OSs.
> Is the answer Netscape 4.5x series or have that not fixed the bugs
> (which I can list some other time if you want).
> Suggestions...?
> Later.

Netscape 4.5x is hardly the answer to anything, especially as far as
bugs are concerned. I generally don�t like the 4.x series at all,
that�s why I stick with Netscape 3.04 - Works Fine For Me[tm]. ;-)

HTH,
Thomas
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