Linux-Misc Digest #808, Volume #25               Tue, 19 Sep 00 14:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Re: End-User Alternative to Windows ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: It would seem that Redhat is a bit of a bugger! ("Rinaldi J. Montessi")
  Q: Cron on Redhat 6.2 ("The Big CaT")
  Re: virus found after a fresh installation ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: Change the users' group under shadow password system? ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: zip-drive problems (Christian Verbeek)
  Re: zip-drive problems (Christian Verbeek)
  Re: Test. (Armin Kaiser)
  Re: New Linux Install ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: CD Writers and Macs - discuss (Alisdair McDiarmid)
  formatting bootable dos/fat16 from linux (patrick)
  No SUCH PID?!?!?!?!  HELP ("Anthony Chan")
  Re: CD Writers and Macs - discuss (John Winters)
  Re: Undefined reference (Paul Kimoto)
  No such PID ?!?!?!?!?! Expert Help Needed! (Anthony Chan)
  Re: how to delete a column in a table in Postgresql ?
  Problem with Red Hat 6.2 Installation (David)
  Re: zip-drive problems (James Franklin)
  Re: CD Writers and Macs - discuss (Jon Hall)
  Re: can't connect to napster ("Laptop connection")
  Re: It would seem that Redhat is a bit of a bugger!
  "su" dumps core !? HELP! (Alex Khomenko)

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
Date: 19 Sep 2000 15:57:35 GMT

In comp.os.linux.misc Frank Miles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: In article <8q63l4$r6s$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
: Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:>In comp.os.linux.misc Yannick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:>: In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
:>:> Sure...just put it in a shutdown script.
:>:> But...with unix..the utility of shutting down machines is nil.
:>: It is. It's called saving energy. Unless you have teams working 24h/24h
:>: 7 days a week.
:>That calculation is moot. You lose more energy in the lower lifetime of
:>the disks (it takes a LOT of energy to make one hard disk). Disks fail
:>when left nonspinning, and when spun up. (This is mostly true of
:>IDE disks, which are not made to high standards in general, and which
:>tend strongly to have bearing mechanisms which seize when they
:>aren't used ...).

: And the indisputably sound source of these statistics can be found....?

>From various engineers working at various hardware producers. *I've* had
the story firsthand, but for you it'll be second hand, coming from me (I
really should keep the authorative posts!).  There was an excellent and
extended discussion on comp.os.blah.hardware about a year ago.  As I
recall the main point was the bearing lubrication: IDE disks didn't have
the design elements to keep the lubrication even when left standing,
leading to interesting results when restarted.

: I've heard this tale repeated fairly often, but never substantiated
: by anything but anecdote.

I've never heard it repeated at all, and you can be very sure that I am
watching for it! Hey, I have a research contract with a Western Digital
subsidiary? Does that make me authoratative? And I am also professor of
hardware design ... though not that kind of hardware! What do you
consider authorative?

:>Just keep the machine on ... it shouldn't use much energy when the
:>monitor's off. Besides, my machine is always doing things when I'm
:>not there ...

: Actually, there are some wearout mechanisms with cathodes in CRTs and

The monitor should be in low power. I don't use it when not there.
In fact mine is always off. I use the portable to log in when I come
home. That's an lcd 1024x768 screen.

: in HV supplies for cycling power on these also.  Unfortunately I don't
: know of any statistics to resolve this question, either.

: Anybody have a lead on real data regarding these?

The manufacturers data sheets? They give some stats on mean cycle time
to failure.  I get between 5-15% catastrophic IDE disk failures per year
(from memory).  I have hundreds of IDE disks. I have relatively few
scsi disks to comapre with (10's). But they seem to wear better. The
problem is that three were wiped out by overheat in the same box
(cooling failed, shouldn't havbe been like that anyway) and two were
killed by a dud adaptec 2940uw controller. That kind of thing clusters
more, statistically. IDE disks tend to be one per machine.


Peter

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From: "Rinaldi J. Montessi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: It would seem that Redhat is a bit of a bugger!
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 12:04:06 -0400

Mike Frisch wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 19:38:38 +0100, Darren Keirle
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >Reading through this newgroup all i can see is people having problems with
> >redhat!
> 
> Typically the most popular software will get the most mention...
> 
> >  Could this be that the over commercialized Distro is only made to run on
> >its developers pcs, and any other specced pc is not fit!
> 
> On what basis do you make this assessment?
> 
> >   I would seriously turn people away if they were thinking of getting
> >redhat, as it is not too good at all! and Riddled with buggs!
> 
> Have you ever used RedHat?
> 
> Mike.

I do believe we've been trolled :-)

-- 
Rinaldi]$
"The federal government has taken too much tax money from the people,
too much authority from the states, and too much liberty with the
Constitution." --Ronald Reagan

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From: "The Big CaT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Q: Cron on Redhat 6.2
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 16:11:31 GMT

I recently installed RedHat 6.2 and there is a default cron
job for root.  This job runs every 10 minutes all day.  Every
time it runs it exits with the following error:

/bin/sh: 1: Ambiguous redirect

Here is the crontab entry.

0,10,20,30,40,50 * * * *   /dev/chr/.../sc >/dev/null 2>&1

Also, when I try to use my own entries for testing scripts
or just calling a system function like "date"
they all fail with the following type of error message:

/bin/sh: /usr/bin/date: No such file or directory

Any info to help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.




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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: virus found after a fresh installation
Date: 19 Sep 2000 16:03:25 GMT

Frank X.M. Cheng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: New CD Media and Boot disk. When I finish installation and reboot the
: machine, it alert me that there is a virus found in boot sector. Gosh. Where
: does it come from?

: Could you give some suggestions on how to kill this virus in a Linux/Unix
: system?

Remove linux. Your bios identifies it as a virus so it MUST be right.
</sarcasm>

Are you sure you're not pulling our leg? You would have to be really
dense not to realize that the bios doesn't have a table of viruses in
in order to better use up its 256K or 512K of code space.  It's just
telling you that the boot record has been tampered with, which it has.
You just did it.

Peter

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Change the users' group under shadow password system?
Date: 19 Sep 2000 16:01:12 GMT

Jean-David Beyer-valinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I believe Red Hat have a reason to put each user into his own group, but I
: forget what it was. It seemed like a good idea at the time, but it does not

I also forget. It was some idea connected with netgroups maybe? It's
annoying because we want users in big groups and the admins go for this
1-1 arrangement, and don't know about secondary groups.  I think
redhat's idea was to let everyone be in their own primary group so that
you couldn't accidentally let other people in via group permissions.
Great, but that's exactly what we want ...

: mean it will be best for you. Is there a reason why you want them all in
: the same group?

Peter

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From: Christian Verbeek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: zip-drive problems
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 01:16:16 GMT

> Try to remove the 'sync' out of your fstab. don't know if it works but=
=20
sure
> looks like it.

this does not help. just the same problem as before.

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From: Christian Verbeek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: zip-drive problems
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 01:18:59 GMT

> Have you tried rm d00000.rar on the disk it does not exist on?  What w=
as=20
the
> error message?

no error message. after rm /zip/d00000.rar the file is not seen any more=
=20
by ls.

> It definately appears to be a cache problem.  Are you somehow cacheing=
=20
the
> information on that mount point, device, all filesystems, etc?

i dont know. i am using an unmodified suse-linux 6.3 installation. never=
=20
thought about caching.



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From: Armin Kaiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Test.
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 18:33:30 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Just testing. Hope no one minds.

There are testgroups for those postings. Please use them.


Bye

Armin Kaiser

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: New Linux Install
Date: 19 Sep 2000 16:39:24 GMT

In comp.os.linux.misc James M. Luongo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I plan on installing Linux Mandrake 7.1 for the first time.  I need some
: help.  How big should the partitions be?  And, I heard something about

Read the Partition-HOWTO.

    http://ldp.iol.it/HOWTO/mini/Partition.html
    http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/partition/Partition.html

    This Linux Mini-HOWTO teaches you how to plan and create partitions
    on IDE and SCSI hard drives. It discusses
    partitioning terminology and considers size and location issues.
    Use of the fdisk partitioning utility for creating and
    recovering of partition tables is covered. 

: LiLo not recognizing a Linux partition after a certain disk cylinder (or
: sector, whatever).  I think it was 1023, but I'm not sure.  Is this

It'll be your bios that can't jump that far, if anything.  Don't worry
about it, this is a triviality even if it occurs.

Peter

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alisdair McDiarmid)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: CD Writers and Macs - discuss
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 16:53:51 GMT

In article <8q81e5$j4b$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Winters wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jon Hall  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >John Winters wrote:
> >> 
> >> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >> Alisdair McDiarmid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, James
> >> >    Campbell Andrew wrote:
> >> >> The question is, can I burn Macintosh native CD's (ie bootable
> >> >> System disks) or is this not possible at the moment?
> >> >
> >> >Yes, you can do it. I do one a week on my local net.
> >> 
> >> How do you burn an HFS CD?  I've tried to burn MkLinux to CD with cdrecord
> >> but apparently it loses some of the critical HFS information.
> >
> >I'm a bit confused here. When downloading MkLinux, do you download one
> >(or more) big CD image file(s) or an entire directory tree?
> 
> The former.
> 
> >If the
> >former, then cdrecord shouldn't have any problem with it as it doesn't
> >really care what's inside the image file (true for data, not audio, of
> >course).
> 
> That was my belief until I tried it too.  However the man page for
> cdrecord specifies that the image you try to write with -data should
> be in ISO-9660 or Rock Ridge format.

You can burn whatever you want to a CD. As far as I know, you can
burn ext2fs to a CD if it turns you on.

> It doesn't seem to have an option for HFS format.  I don't have a
> Mac yet (but I've ordered one!) so haven't been able to try it but
> the people who have tried it report that the Mac format files on
> the CD have lost one of their forks.

I repeat my earlier post: this is not the case here. Our
cdrecord-burnt Mac CDs work fine.
-- 
Alisdair McDiarmid                                    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[http://wasters.org/pubkey.asc       perl -i.mac -p -e 's/\r/\n/smg;']

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From: patrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: formatting bootable dos/fat16 from linux
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 17:08:27 +0000

I have a project where I boot a PC using a linux floppy with root NFS
access and use it to partition, format and install DOS + Windows +
Custom Software.  I have the DHCP and root NFS access working just find
and have completed the first part of my project (Linux + Custom
Software).  None of the linux tools I can find seem to be able to do the
job I need.  The partition / MBR / boot sector combination seems to be
unable to boot.

I have tried: fdisk, mpartition, mke2fs, mformat, and dd'ing the MBR.
I think that the boot sector is my problem, but I am a bit stuck right
now.

Any help?  Please??

Thanks...


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From: "Anthony Chan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,linux.help,thenet.support.linux
Subject: No SUCH PID?!?!?!?!  HELP
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 13:10:29 -0400

When i try to Halt or Reboot my Linux box, it tells me that there is No Such
PID for almost EVERYTHING running!  Why is it doing this?  This just
happened all of a sudden, but all the processes seem to be running fine..
Its just alittle disconcerting that it gives me so many error messages when
i shutdown.

HELP PLEASE!
Anthony



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Winters)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: CD Writers and Macs - discuss
Date: 19 Sep 2000 18:12:13 +0100

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Alisdair McDiarmid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <8q81e5$j4b$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Winters wrote:
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jon Hall  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >John Winters wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> >> Alisdair McDiarmid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, James
>> >> >    Campbell Andrew wrote:
>> >> >> The question is, can I burn Macintosh native CD's (ie bootable
>> >> >> System disks) or is this not possible at the moment?
>> >> >
>> >> >Yes, you can do it. I do one a week on my local net.
>> >> 
>> >> How do you burn an HFS CD?  I've tried to burn MkLinux to CD with cdrecord
>> >> but apparently it loses some of the critical HFS information.
>> >
>> >I'm a bit confused here. When downloading MkLinux, do you download one
>> >(or more) big CD image file(s) or an entire directory tree?
>> 
>> The former.
>> 
>> >If the
>> >former, then cdrecord shouldn't have any problem with it as it doesn't
>> >really care what's inside the image file (true for data, not audio, of
>> >course).
>> 
>> That was my belief until I tried it too.  However the man page for
>> cdrecord specifies that the image you try to write with -data should
>> be in ISO-9660 or Rock Ridge format.
>
>You can burn whatever you want to a CD. As far as I know, you can
>burn ext2fs to a CD if it turns you on.
>
>> It doesn't seem to have an option for HFS format.  I don't have a
>> Mac yet (but I've ordered one!) so haven't been able to try it but
>> the people who have tried it report that the Mac format files on
>> the CD have lost one of their forks.
>
>I repeat my earlier post: this is not the case here. Our
>cdrecord-burnt Mac CDs work fine.

Interesting.  Have you tried burning the MkLinux image to CD?  I can
provide a CD with it on (i.e. as a file rather than used as the image)
if you would be willing to try it.  Of course it's possible that the
problem is the way the MkLinux people have built the image and their
web site is wrong.  (Or I'm being fed duff information.)  My Mac should
be here later this week.

John
-- 
John Winters.  Wallingford, Oxon, England.

The Linux Emporium - the source for Linux CDs in the UK
See http://www.linuxemporium.co.uk/

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Undefined reference
Date: 19 Sep 2000 13:11:06 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <IOFx5.34621$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Ludwig Stroobant wrote:
> I got an undefined reference to wprintf and swprintf in a library I ported
> from Solaris.
> In the man pages I read that I need to include <wchar.h> or <stdio.h>.
>
> Problem is, if I try to find the reference of these functions in an include
> file, I can't find them.
> I thought the functions would be included in libc, but if I try to find a
> reference of them in any library using the command
> "grep -l function_name /usr/lib/lib* /lib/lib* /usr/X11R6/lib/lib*", I get
> nothing as a result.

It appears that these functions have not been implemented in a released
glibc, but will appear in glibc-2.2.  See Andreas Jaeger's recent bug-glibc
message at http://sources.redhat.com/ml/bug-glibc/2000-09/msg00026.html .

-- 
Paul Kimoto
This message was originally posted in plain text.  Any images, 
hyperlinks, or the like shown here have been added without my
consent, and may be a violation of international copyright law.

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From: Anthony Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: No such PID ?!?!?!?!?! Expert Help Needed!
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 17:30:05 -0000

When i try to Halt or Reboot my Linux box, it tells me that there is No 
Such PID for almost EVERYTHING running!  Why is it doing this?  This just 
happened all of a sudden, but all the processes seem to be running fine..
Its just alittle disconcerting that it gives me so many error messages 
when i shutdown.

HELP PLEASE!
Anthony

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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to delete a column in a table in Postgresql ?
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 17:30:04 -0000

Thanks for your help !

I admit I hadn't gone down into the SQL compliance section of that page,
not thinking I'd find the response to my question there. Sorry, for taking
your time.

Thanks again !

Moritz

Robert Lynch wrote:
> 
> According to
> /usr/docs/postgresql-7.0/postgres/sql-altertable.htm:
> =====
> SQL92 specifies some additional capabilities for ALTER TABLE
> statement which are not yet directly supported by Postgres:
> ...
> 
> ALTER TABLE table DROP [ COLUMN ] column { RESTRICT | CASCADE }
>       
> 
> Removes a column from a table. Currently, to remove an existing
> column the table must be recreated and
>        reloaded: 
> 
>        CREATE TABLE temp AS SELECT did, city FROM
> distributors;    
>        DROP TABLE distributors;
>        CREATE TABLE distributors (
>            did      DECIMAL(3)  DEFAULT 1,
>            name     VARCHAR(40) NOT NULL,
>        );
>        INSERT INTO distributors SELECT * FROM temp;
>        DROP TABLE temp;
>               
> 
> The clauses to rename columns and tables are Postgres extensions
> from SQL92.
> ==
> HTH. Bob L.  
> -- 
> Robert Lynch-Berkeley CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problem with Red Hat 6.2 Installation
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 13:43:59 -0400

I'm trying to upgrade a RHL 6.2 installation; when I go thru the
motions, the install program can't "see" my second physical drive that
has two Linux partitions that total around 6 gigs. The rest of the drive
is made up of  Windows partitions. The install program gives the error
message:

"An error occurred reading the partition table for the block device hdb.
The error was: No such file or directory".

Can anyone please advise as to what is causing this to happen and what I
can do to resolve the issue? Thanks in advance...


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Franklin)
Subject: Re: zip-drive problems
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 19 Sep 2000 12:33:13 -0600

This is my fstab entry for a parallel port Zip-100
/dev/sda4 /mnt/zip2 ext2 user,noauto 0 0

Perhaps the 0 0 at the end will help, but I doubt it.  Look into the cache
possibility.  It might be BIOS based (doubt it) or kernel (I don't know enough
to say).

I had a similar problem in WinNT 4.0.  Unpriviledged users had disk change,
directory problems, but a priviledged user could swap disk and had no problems.
I still haven't figured that one out yet.
-- 
James

A Daily Quip, Quote, or Fortune:
We are anthill men upon an anthill world.
                -- Ray Bradbury

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Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 18:38:59 +0100
From: Jon Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: CD Writers and Macs - discuss

John Winters wrote:
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Alisdair McDiarmid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >In article <8q81e5$j4b$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Winters wrote:
> >> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jon Hall  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >John Winters wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >> >> Alisdair McDiarmid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, James
> >> >> >    Campbell Andrew wrote:
> >> >> >> The question is, can I burn Macintosh native CD's (ie bootable
> >> >> >> System disks) or is this not possible at the moment?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Yes, you can do it. I do one a week on my local net.
> >> >>
> >> >> How do you burn an HFS CD?  I've tried to burn MkLinux to CD with cdrecord
> >> >> but apparently it loses some of the critical HFS information.
> >> >
> >> >I'm a bit confused here. When downloading MkLinux, do you download one
> >> >(or more) big CD image file(s) or an entire directory tree?
> >>
> >> The former.
> >>
> >> >If the
> >> >former, then cdrecord shouldn't have any problem with it as it doesn't
> >> >really care what's inside the image file (true for data, not audio, of
> >> >course).
> >>
> >> That was my belief until I tried it too.  However the man page for
> >> cdrecord specifies that the image you try to write with -data should
> >> be in ISO-9660 or Rock Ridge format.
> >
> >You can burn whatever you want to a CD. As far as I know, you can
> >burn ext2fs to a CD if it turns you on.
> >
> >> It doesn't seem to have an option for HFS format.  I don't have a
> >> Mac yet (but I've ordered one!) so haven't been able to try it but
> >> the people who have tried it report that the Mac format files on
> >> the CD have lost one of their forks.
> >
> >I repeat my earlier post: this is not the case here. Our
> >cdrecord-burnt Mac CDs work fine.
> 
> Interesting.  Have you tried burning the MkLinux image to CD?  I can
> provide a CD with it on (i.e. as a file rather than used as the image)
> if you would be willing to try it.  Of course it's possible that the
> problem is the way the MkLinux people have built the image and their
> web site is wrong.  (Or I'm being fed duff information.)  My Mac should
> be here later this week.

I'm willing to have a go. I also have other means besides cdrecord** to
burn CDs, so I should be able to determine whether it actually is a
cdrecord issue or a problem with the image. As a matter of curiosity,
what happens if you mount the image file with -o loop -t hfs ?

** i.e. RSJ CD Writer under OS/2, GolderHawk DOS tools and (if forced at
gunpoint) Adaptec EZCD Creator under Win9x).
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(who used to be [EMAIL PROTECTED])    |
Southampton, UK                           |
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From: "Laptop connection" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: can't connect to napster
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 18:20:15 +0200

I'm not sure if napster uses ports but if it does, could it be that Napster
sees your client network as a single machine on which 2 napster clients run
with the same port ? Or might there be a loadable module for masquerading to
get to work ??
I dont't know :-(
+--------------------+ Sent from Axel Scheepers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]>
+--------------------+
"The Darkener" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreef in bericht
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I'm having the exact same problem with GTK-Napster, it doesn't connect to
any server at
> all, and when I try to "Choose own server" instead of Autoget best server,
I still
> can't put in my own ip address.  I've tried almost everything I can think
of (Hmm,
> besides RTFMing! hehe) and it always returns the "Warning -- Connection
refused", and
> I'm actually trying to set up a new user.  Very strange.  I'll have to go
grab the
> docs.
>
> Anyone find a solution to this?
>
> Matt Garman wrote:
>
> > Hello:
> >
> > I run IP masqerading on a Linux box to share a cable modem with my
> > roommate.  He's running Win98 on his computer and can use Napster
without
> > any problems (connects okay, downloads fine, etc).
> >
> > I used to use the gtk-napster client version 0.201 until it started to
> > consistently time out on every connection attempt.  I figured it was the
> > software and upgraded to v0.301.  Here I selected "autoget best server"
> > from the connect screen, and it returns a "Warning -- connection
refused"
> > back on the terminal from which I started gtk-napster.
> >
> > I tried some other clients and had similar problems:
> >         - with TekNap I get these results:
> >                 Attempting to get host from 12.18.122.252:8888.
> >                 Connected. Attempting Login to 12.18.122.252:8888.
> >                 blah!* banned: do not unban
> >                 do_server() Connection closed from 12.18.122.252: Remote
end closed
> >                           connection
> >         - with nap-1.4.4 I get stuff such as this:
> >                 Getting best host...
> >                 Connecting...
> >                 Error connecting socket
> >                 Getting best host...
> >                 Connecting...
> >                 Error connecting socket
> >         - I also tried the client lopster-0.9.3, it just times out on
> >                 connections to the "Official Server" while searching for
the best
> >                 server.
> >
> > For a while I thought that my IP was banned somehow---but if my roommate
> > connects okay, that certainly isn't the case.  Also I thought my
username
> > was banned, but I also tried connecting with my roommate's password, and
> > that didn't work either.  Also I thought my IP masquerading setup was in
> > error, but again, if my roommate's works okay, shouldn't mine?
> >
> > Anyone have any ideas?  I am just missing something obvious here?
> > Thanks,
> > Matt
> >
> > --
> > Matt Garman, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > "I may make you feel, but I can't make you think."
> >         -- Jethro Tull, "Thick as a Brick"
>
> --
> - The Darkener
> It is pitch black.  You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
>
>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: It would seem that Redhat is a bit of a bugger!
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 17:46:20 -0000

On Tue, 19 Sep 2000 07:30:56 -0700, elemental <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>So this Darren Keirle character tells us...
># 
># Reading through this newgroup all i can see is people having problems with
># redhat!
>#   Could this be that the over commercialized Distro is only made to run on
># its developers pcs, and any other specced pc is not fit!
>#    I would seriously turn people away if they were thinking of getting
># redhat, as it is not too good at all! and Riddled with buggs!
>
>And you say this why? Based solely on a few complaints you see here? Have 
>you actually used RedHat? Do you even know what you're talking about?

        It certainly has occasional problems that would rahter faze the
        newbie sort of user. They might not bother some of us because
        we would see these annoyances like small speed bumps, fix the
        problem, and then move on.

>
>
>elemental, satisfied RedHat user.
[deletia]

        The Mandrake folx seem more on the ball these days. More 
        bleeding edge too... which is an odd combo.

-- 

  It is the quality rather than the quantity that matters.
  - Lucius Annaeus Seneca (4 B.C. - A.D. 65)

  Don't be overly suspicious where it's not warranted.

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From: Alex Khomenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: "su" dumps core !? HELP!
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 10:49:10 -0700


Has anyone seen this happen? Any suggestions? I'm lost...

mybox:~> su
Password:
Segmentation fault
mybox:~> uname -a
Linux mybox.concentric.net 2.2.12-20 #3 Tue May 2 09:59:38 PDT 2000 i686
unknown


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