Linux-Misc Digest #808, Volume #20 Sun, 27 Jun 99 16:13:09 EDT
Contents:
imlib compilation error when installing E. (SiNuS)
Re: How can I lower X:s footprint ? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Does lilo exist for DOS? (David E. Fox)
Re: Plugin for Realplayer G2! ("R.K.Aa")
Re: Plugin for Realplayer G2! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: editorial: Stupid Linux Tricks (David E. Fox)
Re: first/second/third world (John S. Dyson)
getting an error with GNU gcc compiler (Brutus)
Re: Backup recommendations? (David E. Fox)
Re: internet connection with Linux ("James R. Barnett, Jr.")
Re: getting an error with GNU gcc compiler (Silviu Minut)
Re: Xemacs on RH5.2 (Bruce Stephens)
Re: SuSE 6.1 anyone? (Jenni G)
Getting Ftape to work with a Ditto 2GB Parallel Port Tape Drive (Chris O'Neill)
Re: Getting Ftape to work with a Ditto 2GB Parallel Port Tape Drive (Melvin Branch)
internet connection with Linux (Brutus)
Re: imlib compilation error when installing E. (Frederic L. W. Meunier)
Re: Viral matters [completely off-topic] (Tom Christiansen)
Re: Lexmark 3200 (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Re: ECC on SDRAMS - is it beneficial w/Linux? (Jenni G)
Re: Plugin for Realplayer G2! ("R.K.Aa")
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From: SiNuS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: imlib compilation error when installing E.
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 02:53:13 +0200
hi ..
im pretty new to linux , so the following error message doesnt really
tell me what to do against the problem :
what does it actually mean ??
## start parse ##
Making check in Imlib
make[1]: Entering directory `/enlightenment_files/imlib-1.9.4/Imlib'
/bin/sh ../libtool --mode=link gcc -g -02 -o libImlib.la -rpath /usr/lib
-version-info 10:4:9 cache.lo colors.lo load.lo misc.lo rend.lo
utils.lo save.lo snprintf.lo -ljpeg -ltiff -lungif -lpng -z -lm
rm -fr .libs/libImlib.la .libs/libImlib.* .libs/libImlib.*
gcc -shared -Wl,-soname -Wl,libImlib.so.1 -o .libs/libImlib.so.1.9.4
cache.lo colors.lo load.lo misc.lo rend.lo utils.lo save.lo
snprintf.lo -ljpeg -ltiff -lungif -lpng -lz -lm -lc
/usr/i486-linux/bin/ld: cannot open -lpng: No such file or directory
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[1]: *** [libImlib.la] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/enlightenment_files/imlib-1.9.4/Imlib'
make: *** [check-recursive] Error1
## end parse ##
can anybody tell me, what i can do about that prob ??
plz answer asap..
i must finally get enlightenment to work CORRECTLY...
gotta get some sleep...
thx in advance...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How can I lower X:s footprint ?
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 18:12:23 GMT
You can find 2 cycle dimms on the internet (original VX), and $50 is
about right for a 32MB dimm (who suggested $50 for a 16MB chip? I just
got 2 128MB PC100 chips for $85ea, and a good brand). Sorry I can't
test X to see if I can lower this for you, my video card is unsupported.
Eric
In article <7l267q$sn0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > On Fri, 25 Jun 1999 08:22:34 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >On my 16MB system, X-window uses 30-35%, and that is too much.
> > >
> > >Is there anything I can do to make it smaller, besides lowering
> screen
> > >res or colour resolution, which is 1024x768x16 and the smallest I
can
> > >live with.
> >
> > Jeez. There's a phrase for you. Something like
> > "caviar lifestyle on a shoestring budget"
> > If you're going to insist on the good stuff, then you'll have to PAY
> THE
> > MONEY. Pay the $50 or whatever for another 16 meg chip!
> >
> > I presume you're not doing anything odd like trying to run KDE or
> anything
> > other than a trivial window manager, also.
>
> There is no $50 chip solution available, since I have the first
version
> VX motherboard, and the SDRAMS in store now does not work.
>
> The figure for X:s footprint is from TOP. I dont understand what you
> meen with caviar lifestyle, I have used this resolution in windows95
for
> a long time, and it has not been a major performance problem. (lots of
> other problems though, as everybody knows)
>
> I am aware that only 16MB is not the optimal configuration, I only
> wanted suggstions on how to make it slightly better, and the largest
> process running was X window, if this could be made smaller, a lot
would
> have been won, I believe.
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David E. Fox)
Subject: Re: Does lilo exist for DOS?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 27 Jun 1999 18:27:02 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Cameron L. Spitzer wrote:
>The DOS version of /sbin/lilo would be difficult. It would have to
>understand ext2, umsdos, etc. But an rdev(8) for LILO-on-MBR would be a
True, but why anyone would need a DOS version of LILO mystifies
me. LILO is (of course) a boot loader, and as such no OS really
is running when LILO boots. And LILO can boot dos, or linux, or
whatever else suits your fancy.
And more to the point, I don't think LILO would necessarily use
linux file services, or dos file services in the first place (since
the OS is not loaded yet), so a "DOS" version of LILO can't even
exist any more than a "linux" LILO does.
On the other hand, the app that loads up the boot loader code could
be written for dos, and there's probably a good reason for it to
do so.
>An interesting project for someone who wants to learn how disk drives
>are organized on a PC-compatible.
Answer: very carefully. :)
>
>Cameron
>http://judi.greens.org/lilo/
>
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From: "R.K.Aa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Plugin for Realplayer G2!
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 20:57:27 +0200
> Could you please supply a url for that file. I guess I am dense today but I can't
>seem to find it ;-).
hmm i mailed a correction private instead of to newsgroup:
http://www.i2k.com/~jeffd/rpopen/
-Run a simple "make" in the dir you unpacked it
(with tar -zxvf filename)
-After the make: copy open.so and rplayer to the dir rvplayer is.
-Edit the file "rplayer" to contain the real path to your rvplayer.
-Then point your browsers association with realaudio to rplayer INSTEAD
of rvplayer (in applications or plugins or whatever you use.)
K.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Plugin for Realplayer G2!
Date: 27 Jun 1999 13:43:03 -0500
coffee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> "R.K.Aa" wrote:
>
> > This problem is described on the RedHat errata page.
> > http://www.redhat.com/corp/support/errata/rh60-errata-general.html
> >
> > Check it out - another problem than just the plugin is also described.
> > There's a fix for everything, however :)
> >
> > K.
>
> Thanks, Now the meaty problem for me.
>
> I downloaded a workaround. Hope its the right one. ropen.tar.gz. Got in
> untarred and setup in a directory in /home/me/ropen and now Im having
> some difficulty.
>
Could you please supply a url for that file. I guess I am dense today but I can't seem
to find it ;-).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David E. Fox)
Subject: Re: editorial: Stupid Linux Tricks
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 27 Jun 1999 18:46:30 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Actually, I doubt that will ever happen. I also am an IT person who's
>responsible for a number of AS400 computers with a number of my clients. I
>could argue that the AS/400 is one of the finest data base machines in
>existence. And yep, I'd trust my mission critical data to one of those vs a
>Linux/Oracle box any day.
I used to work for a company (Revo sunglasses) that used AS/400 with JD
Edwards software. It is a fairly nice system, to be sure, and a very nice
database, except for the times we had to enter orders in twice, and stuff
like that. Originally, Warranty (the department I worked in) had a repairs
database that was written for a System 38-based thing, and that never
integrated well with JD Edwards. And neither really did the replacement
database, but it did work a little bit better.
Anyhow, the IT managers there originally set up terminals, but later
replaced them with PCs running RUMBA on Windows 3.1. Shortly before
I left, those got upgraded to NT workstation 4.0. For my work, that
was a big improvement.
And the IT managers there were shit-scared about virii, and so enacted
policies that only "shelfware" could be loaded onto PCs, and then only
by IT personnel. No way would they let Linux in the door, even if one
tried to prove to them that the best way to avoid virii is to not run
DOS or Windows in the first place!!!
>What Mr Amaru has missed though, is where Linux has strengths that the AS/400
>lacks.
Certainly. A department-based Linux server would have helped our
department immensely. It could have been used for any number of things,
like print services (we had two printers, an aging midframe-like dot
matrix printer, and a laser printer, and the AS-400 controlled both, had
to do the postscript conversions, and other stuff), and it could be used
for other services as well. One key point is that it could have been used
as a mirror host for our central database. Often for whatever reasons, such
as sleeper jobs failed, or the backup ran out of tape, we'd come to work
early in the AM to find out that the computer was down and we could do no
work until it came up. Often it might not come up until mid-AM or even
afternoon. Surely, if we had a Linux box in there we could still enter orders
and check receipts and other stuff, and then upload it to the AS/400 when
it was available.
But no, the IT people would never have gone for that. ;(
>investigate Linux is at best someone afraid of change or too lazy to do some
>learning; at worst, irresponsible for not taking advantage of some very
>inexpensive solutions to many problems.
Right. I talked to a few people while I was there about Linux, and they
basically said that they didn't know Unix. Oh well. Here I am, not an
IT professional or anything, and I'm the only person in the company that
uses Linux (or anything other than M$ or apple) at home, and I can't
help out in that arena because I don't have experience as a sysadmin or
whatever.
>Barry
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John S. Dyson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: first/second/third world
Date: 27 Jun 1999 18:45:30 GMT
In article <7l4obp$g6b$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Kulisz) writes:
>
>>when did John say that he considered freedom, as the freedom to destroy
>>enslave and murder? you wouldn't be putting words in his mouth would you?
>
> I would be observing his actions, or those like him, and making my
> own conclusions as to their beliefs. To a right-winger, freedom means
> freedom to destroy, enslave and murder. The kind of system right-
> wingers advocate maximizes all three.
>
You sound like the most intolerant right-winger by your gross
generalizations of a few crazies to the entire right-wing community.
However, I have also noted you opinions (if you aren't just trolling
with absurdity) are indeed an embodiment of the most gross and
heinous left wing propaganda that I have ever heard. That doesn't
mean that you are necessarily crazy, but I suspect that someone
has gotten you at a young age and taken advantage of you by
applying special educational techniques on you.
--
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] | it makes one look stupid
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | and it irritates the pig.
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From: Brutus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: getting an error with GNU gcc compiler
Date: 27 Jun 1999 19:30:40 GMT
I just installed Open Linux ver 2.2 with KDE. I'm getting an error when I
run the gcc compiler, The error says
"Cannot exec 'cc1plus'; No such file or directory"
I couldn't find the file in a search, so why wasn't it added in the
installation? Or is there some setting I don't have that I need?
Also if I nned to reinstall a package, which one is it?
thanks
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David E. Fox)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Backup recommendations?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 27 Jun 1999 18:10:15 GMT
In article <7kqn8l$6pj$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, killbill wrote:
>$2.50 for 500 MB uncompressed of rewritable media is pretty cost
>effective. Likewise, there are often situations where you want a
>permenant archive of your data, and having a $1 per gigabyte option with
Hmm. I had not realized that the price of CDRW had fallen that
quickly. This makes CDRW a potential good thing, of course. Too bad I
don't have a CDRW-capable drive :(.
>Tapes are, however, much more convienient, as they do not tie up your
>system during a write (while on many systems a CD burn will pause your
What about timing issues? I've read that if the CDR (or CDRW) doesn't
get written to consistently enough, the resultant media (especially
in the case of CDR) is coastered. At least with tape, you can use tar
(with a reasonably decent buffer size) and go.
>Bil Kilgallon ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>--"I believe, what I believe, has made me what I am. I did not make
> it, It is making me, it is the very truth of God, not the invention
> of any man". Rich Mullins, quoting G.K. Chesterton.
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From: "James R. Barnett, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: internet connection with Linux
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 14:49:35 -0500
Did you set up DNS Servers in the kppp setup? Or you can edit
/etc/resolv.conf directly.
JamesB
Brutus wrote:
>
> I'm using Open Linux 2.2 with KDE and I'm running kppp to get connected to
> my ISP. I'm able to get a connection through kppp but none of my
> applications seem to be able to find it. Netscape comes back with an error
> saying that the internet server is not found, telnet also can't find a
> connection. Does anyone have any suggestions?
> thanks
>
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From: Silviu Minut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: getting an error with GNU gcc compiler
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 15:39:38 -0400
it's in egcs-c++.
Brutus wrote:
> I just installed Open Linux ver 2.2 with KDE. I'm getting an error when I
> run the gcc compiler, The error says
> "Cannot exec 'cc1plus'; No such file or directory"
> I couldn't find the file in a search, so why wasn't it added in the
> installation? Or is there some setting I don't have that I need?
> Also if I nned to reinstall a package, which one is it?
> thanks
>
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> http://www.searchlinux.com
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From: Bruce Stephens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.emacs.xemacs,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Xemacs on RH5.2
Date: 27 Jun 1999 18:28:40 +0100
Dan Eaton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> rpm-Uvh
> ftp://sunsite.org.uk/Mirrors/ftp.redhat.com/redhat/powertools/5.2/SRPMS/
> -
> xemacs-20.4-2.src.rpm
>
> As I stated, the above command completed with no errors (about 2hrs
> later). However, it did not install anything in my /usr/bin
> directory or my /usr/lib directories as expected.
2 hours? That seems a bit long. Anyway, did you find any binary rpms
in /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386? If so, install them (using rpm).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jenni G)
Subject: Re: SuSE 6.1 anyone?
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 19:50:01 GMT
Does it contain much in the way of server tools & apps?
On 22 Jun 1999 18:45:10 -0500, Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Dave Brown wrote:
>>
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ted Sikora wrote:
>> >> Dan Star wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Can't SUSE be downloaded over the NET? I believe that this is
>> >
>>
>> I noticed CompUSA is selling the official SuSE 6.1 package for $29.
>> (Shucks, just paid $35 for it at cheapbytes.) The enclosed book is
>> worth the 30 bucks.
>>
>
>Plus the fact that it includes OSS sound driver + tons of neat
>applications.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris O'Neill)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Getting Ftape to work with a Ditto 2GB Parallel Port Tape Drive
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 19:26:59 GMT
Okay, I give up....... What's the secret???? I've been mucking for
two days trying to get my Ditto 2GB parallel port tape drive (LPT1) to
work with RedHat Linux 6.0 but haven't had any success. I've tried
recompiling the kernel, setting-up boot-time parameters in lilo, and
all sorts of other gunk. (Sigh!) And, yes, I *have* read the
Ftape-HOWTO and other documents, but I find them somewhat cryptic.
(Sigh!)
Can someone out there who's using this drive with Linux puhleeeze send
me an e-mail walking me through the steps to get it going???? (Sigh!)
Thanks, in advance, for any assistance anyone can offer.
Regards,
Chris O'Neill
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Subject: Re: Getting Ftape to work with a Ditto 2GB Parallel Port Tape Drive
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
From: Melvin Branch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 19:35:56 GMT
If you ever get an answer please e-mail me. I've been trying to get mine
working for over 6 months. I even tried redhat support they told me, jo=
in a
newsgroup or follow the "HOW TO" documents. Needless to say these altern=
ates
have been utterly useless. Hope you have better luck then I did.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris O'Neill) wrote:
>Okay, I give up....... What's the secret???? I've been mucking for
>two days trying to get my Ditto 2GB parallel port tape drive (LPT1) to
>work with RedHat Linux 6.0 but haven't had any success. I've tried
>recompiling the kernel, setting-up boot-time parameters in lilo, and
>all sorts of other gunk. (Sigh!) And, yes, I *have* read the
>Ftape-HOWTO and other documents, but I find them somewhat cryptic.
>(Sigh!)
>
>Can someone out there who's using this drive with Linux puhleeeze send
>me an e-mail walking me through the steps to get it going???? (Sigh!)
>
>Thanks, in advance, for any assistance anyone can offer.
>
>Regards,
>
>Chris O'Neill
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From: Brutus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: internet connection with Linux
Date: 27 Jun 1999 19:30:40 GMT
I'm using Open Linux 2.2 with KDE and I'm running kppp to get connected to
my ISP. I'm able to get a connection through kppp but none of my
applications seem to be able to find it. Netscape comes back with an error
saying that the internet server is not found, telnet also can't find a
connection. Does anyone have any suggestions?
thanks
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From: Frederic L. W. Meunier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: imlib compilation error when installing E.
Date: 27 Jun 1999 19:07:16 GMT
can anybody tell me, what i can do about that prob ??
plz answer asap..
,,,
Install libpng.
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From: Tom Christiansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.perl.misc
Subject: Re: Viral matters [completely off-topic]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Christiansen)
Date: 27 Jun 1999 13:11:32 -0700
[courtesy cc of this posting mailed to cited author]
In comp.lang.perl.misc, andy barfoot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
:Good grief, what's _that_ doing at language.perl.com? Are the perldocs
:turning into the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy?
It's summer. I'm doing non-serious things. Why aren't you? :-)
Check the Perl News bit for some other non-serious bits.
--tom
--
But you have to allow a little for the desire to evangelize when you
think you have good news.
--Larry Wall in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Subject: Re: Lexmark 3200
Date: 27 Jun 1999 19:49:41 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michael Thomas wrote:
>
>I bought my new pc about a month ago:
>and have just installed RH6. I am, however, having major problems
>installing my printer which is a Lexmark 3200. I can't seem to find a decent
>driver anywhere and I can't use it with drivers for other printers.
You're screwed. That printer's functions are manipulated directly by
software on the host machine. It doesn't have an internal image buffer
or a page description language interpreter or anything.
(That's why it's so cheap.)
Lexmark refuses to release programming info for fear non-Microsoft
drivers would cost too much to support. If you still can, return this
printer for a refund or store credit on the grounds that it is not
compatible with your PC and unsupported by its manufacturer.
Cameron
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jenni G)
Subject: Re: ECC on SDRAMS - is it beneficial w/Linux?
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 19:47:09 GMT
Good input from each of you -- thanks for the replies.
Here's the question in another form: Is there a mechanism already
provided by Linux that will detect and/or correct memory errors such
that the ECC feature is not really beneficial?
On Sun, 27 Jun 1999 18:21:12 +0200, Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Floyd Davidson wrote:
>>
>> >Yes. All operating systems rely on their code resident
>> >in memory matching what was generated during its
>> >build and loaded from disk, as well as their own data
>> >structures not spontaneously becoming corrupt. Linux
>> >is no exception.
>>
>> And the cost difference is small enough to make it an easy to
>> afford risk insurance package.
>>
>Yes, but need the OS not support error-handling. With ECC you can
>correct 1 bit errors. If one occurs, that should be written to the
>syslog. If there is a 2 bit error, the app whose data caused it, should
>be killed (or stopped) and a reboot should occur (or a try to do such).
>
>Does linux support such?
>
>Marc
>
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From: "R.K.Aa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Plugin for Realplayer G2!
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 20:45:40 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> Could you please supply a url for that file. I guess I am dense today but I can't
>seem to find it ;-).
http://www.i2k.com/~jeffd/rpopen/
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