Linux-Misc Digest #843, Volume #19 Wed, 14 Apr 99 07:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: LOGIN.... HELP!!!! ("Thomas J. Canich")
Re: Linux is dead (Christopher Browne)
Re: Idea: Make a seperate "i686" tree for Redhat Linux 6.0 (Enkidu)
Re: Deleted! Noooooo ("J�rgen Exner")
knews "from" config problem ("The Blond Alternative")
Re: modprobe: can't locate module net-pf-4 (Frankie)
Re: Can't boot compiled image 2.0.36 with Loadlin : Help ! Help ! Help please !
(Nguyen-Dai Quy)
Re: Is it possible to calculate BogoMIPS after booting (w/o rebooting) ? (Kalle
Olavi Niemitalo)
Re: How to include lib in configure? (NF Stevens)
Re: Newbie: Can anyone recommend a GUI development environment ? (Lloyd Weehuizen)
Re: KDE:Kget install... (Lloyd Weehuizen)
Re: modprobe: can't locate module net-pf-4 (Lloyd Weehuizen)
[LILO] Trying to boot, just get "L 01 01 01..." - Fixed (mostly) (Alex Taylor)
Linux kernel 2.2.5: support for UMAX UDS-IS-11 SCSI Controller Card ("tota11y /)
Re: smake to GNU make transition (Toralf Lund)
Re: New RedHat 5.2 install ("Erik Akkermans")
Re: LOCAL: Linux Installfest ("Rufus V. Smith")
RedHat Was: Re: Idea: Make a seperate "i686" tree for Redhat Linux 6.0 (Hugo van der
Merwe)
Re: Mail server for Linux (Erlend Midttun)
SIOCADDRT Invalid argument (Nguyen-Dai Quy)
Re: .tar files (Don)
Is it possible to calculate BogoMIPS after booting (w/o rebooting) ? (Kenny
McCormack)
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From: "Thomas J. Canich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: LOGIN.... HELP!!!!
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 19:04:38 -0400
he means that he is at the bash prompt...
try typing ls, or cd or some other command...
first i would execute passwd and change the root passwd to something other
than *null*... ;) btw, what is your IP again... ;) jk
tom
Thomas J. Canich
UIN: 14155862
AIM: fencertom
On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, NTGUEST wrote:
> what you mean by #?
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: Linux is dead
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 23:48:05 GMT
On Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:56:28 -0700, jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Is Linux trademarked?
Yes.
Feel free to research and report on the events surrounding this
occurance. Hint: Key words are "Della" and "Croce."
--
"Windows95, Word97, Office98: With all the criticisms of Microsoft, at
least they include ``best-before'' dating on many of their products..."
-- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
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From: Enkidu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat.misc,alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Idea: Make a seperate "i686" tree for Redhat Linux 6.0
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 20:36:16 +1200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"M.C. van den Bovenkamp" wrote:
>
> Here in the Netherlands; the province of Zeeland ('Sea-land',
> literally). A Dutch fellow whose name escapes me right now
> discovered what was to become New Zealand and called it Nieuw
> Zeeland.
>
Abel Tasman.
Greeting from New Zealand,
Cliff
--
Cliff Pratt, CAP Consulting
Web build, web design. HTML, Javascript, CGI, ASP, Web Consulting
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 025 246 7747
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From: "J�rgen Exner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Deleted! Noooooo
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:17:13 -0700
Reply-To: "J�rgen Exner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Ju <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7f0etj$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
>
> Hand is quicker than the eye and I think I really screwed myself.
> I deleted by accident my Word Perfect directory. And of course something
> important was in it, a term paper.
>
> Before I really start crying and piecing together my notes again is
> there ANY way to get it back.
See http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/mini/Ext2fs-Undeletion, but
better be quite familiar with the internals of the ext2fs.
jue
--
J�rgen Exner
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From: "The Blond Alternative" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: knews "from" config problem
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:36:37 +0100
Reply-To: "The Blond Alternative" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I am desparately trying to stop using outlook for news, and have installed
knews on Redhat 5.2
The linux machine sits in a different domain to that which I want the from
line to read,
IE, the machine is ure.workdomain.com and so the from appears as
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Whyte)
what I want is for the from to read
From: John Whyte ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
knews is compiled such that the domain is stored in a file, which works
fine, so I have got
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Whyte)
I have tried adding
mailName: jwhyte
to the config-newsmachine file, but that doesn't want to know :-(
Even if it did, the format of the From line is backwards.
Another person uses knews as well, so hard coding or globalising the name
jwhyte is not an option, although changing the order of the line globally
wouldn't matter.
Any help would be most welcome.
Cheers
John
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From: Frankie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: modprobe: can't locate module net-pf-4
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 08:56:03 +0200
> I've just compiled and installed my new kernel and modules, it works
> fine.
>
> I'm using RH5.2, but, I get the following errors at system boot and
> shutdown:
>
> modprobe: can't locate module net-pf-4
> modprobe: can't locate module net-pf-5
> modprobe: can't locate module net-pf-4
> modprobe: can't locate module net-pf-5
> modprobe: can't locate module down
>
> Can you help me with this?
You probably didn't compile IPX and AppleTalk in your kernel. A
boot-script is trying to load them (small error in the script).
Search trough your docs (I think it's a netwerk-text-file)
Add the following lines to your /etc/conf.modules:
alias net-pf-4 off
alias net-pf-5 off
Frankie
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From: Nguyen-Dai Quy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can't boot compiled image 2.0.36 with Loadlin : Help ! Help ! Help please
!
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:52:19 +0200
It was fixed !!!
Thansk
--
NGUYEN-DAI Quy
LTAS-ULG
http://ltas18.ltas.ulg.ac.be/~quy
...Pourquoi utiliser 'window' quand on a une 'door' ?
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From: Kalle Olavi Niemitalo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is it possible to calculate BogoMIPS after booting (w/o rebooting) ?
Date: 14 Apr 1999 12:05:15 +0300
The Debian "sysutils" package contains a user-space version of the
BogoMips check.
This machine runs at 39.83 bogomips according to Linux but at only 36
according to the program.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens)
Subject: Re: How to include lib in configure?
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 22:05:57 GMT
Jos Berends <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello,
>
>Recently I posted a question regarding compiling hello.c
>with gcc 2.7 and libc5 while having glibc present.
>I finally got it to work.
>
>gcc (2.7.2) hello.c gave:
>/usr/lib/crt1.o in functio '_start':
>/usr/lib/crt1.o ....ox38 undefined reference to '__setfpucv'
>,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,ox40 undefined reference to 'something'
>So this is definitely a lib problem.
>
>The solution was to use:
>
>gcc(2.7.2) -L/usr/i486-linuxlibc1/lib hello.c
>
>And it works.
export CC="gcc -L/usr/i486-linuxlibc1/lib"
before you call configure will add the directory
option to every invocation of gcc. This may be
enough to fix your problem.
Norman
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From: Lloyd Weehuizen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie: Can anyone recommend a GUI development environment ?
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 18:41:35 +1200
On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Rick Dearman wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>Use C and GTK, check out www.gtk.org, ( GTK also supports C++, Perl, Python )
>Or you could just learn TCL/TK
And I'd make things all confusing again with the extra choice of the QT
library, which I find much nicer with it's slots and signals than GTK's
callbacks. ;)
Lloyd
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From: Lloyd Weehuizen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: KDE:Kget install...
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 19:49:53 +1200
On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, AlexAndre wrote:
>Hi,
Hi!
>##############important##########
>set KDEDIR to /opt/kde
>Add /opt/kde/bin to your PATH
>End of message.
>Would you please teach me how to do.
>Many thanks.
>I have only 5 months experience whith computers
>and one month with LINUX.Idon't like windowzzzzz.
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
heheh ok ;)
Umm you will find a line similar to the following in your ~/.bash_profile
PATH=/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/bin... blah blah
just add /opt/kde/bin to that string, remeber to put the : before you add
anythingas the colon separates the different paths.
BUT! My guess is if you are running KDE it is probably already there, type
"set" in and xterm or a console and look at the value of PATH before you worry
about the above ;)
--
<--- Lloyd Weehuizen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --->
Another Unix/C++/Java Hacker -- Debian Linux 2.0
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From: Lloyd Weehuizen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: modprobe: can't locate module net-pf-4
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 20:01:36 +1200
On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Julio De Gregorio wrote:
>Hello!
>I'm using RH5.2, but, I get the following errors at system boot and
>shutdown:
>
>modprobe: can't locate module net-pf-4
>
>Can you help me with this?
>
>-= Julio =-
Just add:
alias net-pf-4 off
alias net-pf-5 off
to your /etc/conf.modules or /etc/modules.conf file, check which one exists ;)
Lloyd
--
<=- Lloyd Weehuizen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=>
Another Unix/C++/Java Hacker -- Debian Linux 2.0
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Taylor)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: [LILO] Trying to boot, just get "L 01 01 01..." - Fixed (mostly)
Date: 14 Apr 1999 02:05:47 GMT
I've fixed it!! Thanks for all the advice, I should have known it would turn
out to be something stupid (if utterly unintuitive). Read on for details...
On Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:31:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Taylor) wrote:
> LILO is configured to install on /dev/sdb4 (my Debian partition), as
> I use OS/2 Boot Manager as the primary loader. The partition is just over
> 4 Gb in size.
>
> When I ran lilo -v on the new kernel, I got a warning that BIOS device 0x82
> might not be accessible.
>
> Then when I tried to boot, as soon as I chose Linux from Boot Manager, I
> got
>
> L 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 ...
First off, I mentioned in my original post that this had happened several days
earlier, and I'd eventually just given up and reinstalled. What I didn't say
was that I had tried to boot from the install CD (with "rescue=/dev/sdb4"), and
that refused to mount the root filesystem (got a weird error that looked like
a FAT filesystem header).
This time, however, I created a Rescue floppy (same thing, really), and managed
to boot to /dev/sdb4 from it successfully.
I changed the symlink /vmlinuz back to the original install kernel, and re-ran
LILO. However, I got the exact same error.
FYI, this is the output LILO was giving:
=============================================
ifurita:/# lilo -v
LILO version 21, Copyright 1992-1998 Werner Almesberger
Reading boot sector from /dev/sdb4
Warning: /dev/sdb4 is not on the first disk
hda: hda1 hda2 hda4
Warning: BIOS drive 0x82 may not be accessible
Merging with /boot/boot.b
hda: hda1 hda2 hda4
Warning: BIOS drive 0x82 may not be accessible
hda: hda1 hda2 hda4
Warning: BIOS drive 0x82 may not be accessible
Boot image: /vmlinuz
hda: hda1 hda2 hda4
Warning: BIOS drive 0x82 may not be accessible
Added linux *
/boot/boot.0814 exists - no backup copy made.
Writing boot sector.
=============================================
And my /etc/lilo.conf file is:
=============================================
boot=/dev/sdb4
install=/boot/boot.b
map=/boot/map
# linear
read-only
vga=normal
delay=20
image=/vmlinuz
root=/dev/sdb4
label=linux
=============================================
Anyway, what I eventually did was this:
(1) I didn't like the messages about /dev/hda in the lilo output, since
that's my floppy drive, which shouldn't even enter into the picture! So
I made certain I had no disks in the drive (I thought I'd tried that
already, but I could be wrong).
(2) Scouring dejanews for LILO problems, I noticed a common theme:
BIOS boot virus protection. The Debian documentation said to turn it
off, but I think I'd only gotten around to doing that *after* my
initial install (which was probably pointless, but I figured what the
hey). However, a few people seemed to think turning it on might do
something. So I went into Setup & re-enabled it.
I booted back into my system, using a Rescue floppy, took the disk out of the
drive, ran lilo -v, and noticed with some optimism that the BIOS errors no
longer appeared. (I still got some messages about /dev/hda not having any
valid partitions, for some reason.) But I rebooted and LILO booted the kernel
successfully (finally)!
What it had restored was the default install kernel, since I'd changed the
symlink back (as you recall).
So then, I changed the symlink /vmlinuz back to my new kernel, and that
installed successfully, too.
So now I'm happily booting away again.
Since I did both (1) and (2) at the same time, I'm not certain which did the
trick, but I suspect (2).
However, I still don't know why I'm getting messages about /dev/hda when I run
LILO.
Also, I'm still unable to create a bootdisk. The LILO bootdisk just stops at
"LI", and the raw kernel image refuses to boot at all.
But that's less of a priority, now.
Anyway, thanks for everybody's help & advice. Usenet really is a wonderful
safety net...
=================================================================
Alex Taylor BA - CIS - University of Guelph
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca/~alex
=================================================================
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From: "tota11y /<-rad el33t hax0r" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux kernel 2.2.5: support for UMAX UDS-IS-11 SCSI Controller Card
Crossposted-To:
comp.periphs.scsi,linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.periphs.scanners
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:32:02 GMT
As described on <http://support.umax.co.uk/technotes/f096B.htm>, the SCSI
card that comes with UMAX scanners is really an OEM of Domex's (aka DTC
Technology's) DTC-3181 SCSI card.
I was wondering if anyone knew is Linux has any support for Domex
Technology Corporation SCSI controllers?
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help... :)
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From: Toralf Lund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.sgi.misc,gnu.utils.help
Subject: Re: smake to GNU make transition
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:27:24 +0200
"Paul D. Smith" wrote:
>
> %% Toralf Lund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> tl> As we want our software developed on the SGI to be easier to build on
> tl> other systems, notably Linux, we are planning to ditch smake and start
> tl> using GNUmake instead (as I suppose smake exists for Irix only.) Can
> tl> anyone give me general rules, hints or any kind of information at all
> tl> about the process of rewriting Makefiles that use smake specific
> tl> features like conditionals, special targets/sources and variable
> tl> expansion modifiers?
>
> Go get the GNU make manual. It's available (of course) in Texinfo and
> info format in the distribution, and it's available for purchase in
> hardcopy from the FSF or computer bookstores (this sends the FSF $'s,
> moreso if you order it directly--yay!), and it's available online from
> the FSF's web site in various formats (HTML, DVI, PostScript, text):
>
> http://www.gnu.org/doc/doc.html
>
> There are two chapters there of particular interest as you start out:
> one listing features found in one or more other implementations of make
> which don't exist in GNU make (often with suggestions for translation)
> and another listing features found in GNU make that may or may not exist
> in other versions of make.
These chapters don't really exist, do they? There is some information in
the one about "Features of GNU make", but it's not too helpful.
--
- T. Lund
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From: "Erik Akkermans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: New RedHat 5.2 install
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 01:09:37 +0200
Marc Hoppins heeft geschreven in bericht
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>This is my new config. A purpose built system.
>
>Gigabyte m/board
>128Mb SDRAM (100MHz)
>Intel PII 350
>Maxtor 8Gb drive
>Internal ATAPI ZIP
>32x CDROM
>SB PCI 128
>ATI Rage 128/16Mb
>
>
>I attempted to install redhat using the CD. I restart the system and
>it boots from the CD...gets past the IDE probe then hangs...Cannot
>figure this one out...any suggestions?
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Marc
If you get no better suggestions, maybe you could try installing using a
startup/boot diskette (boot.img is included on CD-rom).
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From: "Rufus V. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LOCAL: Linux Installfest
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 16:20:26 -0400
Please put location and time in the Subject Line of Installfest messages!
That way I don't have to download and read the entire message.
and THEN take the time to say the location and time should be in the subject
line!
Tim Sailer wrote in message ...
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Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 20:52:53 +0000
From: Hugo van der Merwe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat.misc,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: RedHat Was: Re: Idea: Make a seperate "i686" tree for Redhat Linux 6.0
> > If you were to say "redHat sucks", you'd say "redHat sucks", though.
> > Cheese,
> > Andrew
>
> And if I wanted to say "you're a funny lad with cheese in
> your nose" I'd say "you're a funny lad with cheese in your
> nose." Your point?
If RedHat was considered plural, one should say "RedHat suck". I'm not
saying I agree with that (After all, I'm currently using RH5.1. OK, I'm
trying out debian, which seems to suit my personal taste more than RH,
but that doesn't mean Deb is better than RH.)
Newbies: RedHat is quite nice, I wouldn't advise inexperienced users to
install Debian.
Lets not imply some distribution "sucks", even if meant in jest.
Newbie's can easily be mislead. (Speaking from experience ;)
Hugo van der Merwe
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From: Erlend Midttun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Mail server for Linux
Date: 14 Apr 1999 10:13:30 +0200
* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| What program do I use and can someone point me to a FAQ or something so I can
| learn how to do this?
There is a Mail howto. My nearest mirror is
<URL:http://www.linux.no/biblioteket/HOWTO/Mail-HOWTO.html>
but there is probably a nearer site to you.
It does not cover my preferred mail system, Exim, but you can get the idea
of how a mail system works from that HOWTO. As for Exim, you can find
more information on
<URL:http://www.exim.org/>
and if you wish, RPM's off
<URL:http://developer.redhat.com/rhcn/browse/conventional/packageinfo.php3?package=exim>
| - Steve
Erlend..
--
Erlend Midttun [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Network administrator at Funcom Oslo AS. Speaking by myself, for myself.
IRC: Golle http://www.tihlde.hist.no/~erlendbm/
Have you ever wondered why there is no "uptime" command in NT?
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From: Nguyen-Dai Quy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SIOCADDRT Invalid argument
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:12:55 +0200
Hi,
Just recompiled my kernel 2.0.36, I try boot with.
But I see a error message :
SIOCADDRT : Invalid argument
What does it mean ?
Thanks very much if you CC to me your message.
--
NGUYEN-DAI Quy
LTAS-ULG
http://ltas18.ltas.ulg.ac.be/~quy
...Pourquoi utiliser 'window' quand on a une 'door' ?
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From: Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: .tar files
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 02:51:31 GMT
J�rgen Exner wrote:
>
> Batags <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > What is the basic commands to "unzip" .tar.gz files?
>
> The command to uncompress is "gunzip".
> However GNU tar allows to uncompress and extract files from the archive in
> one step using the "z" option of tar.
>
> > Also is there such
> > thing of a .exe in linux,
>
> No.
> If a file is executable or not is determined by the executable flag, try
> "ls -l".
>
> >How do I exec a program ?
>
> Just call it by name. Please note, that the current working directory (CWD)
> usually is not in your search path, so you must use "./filename" instead of
> "filename" to run a program in the CWD.
>
> >How do I identify
> > these type files? .exe = ? , in linux.
>
> See above, it's the executable flag
>
> jue
> --
> J�rgen Exner
In the ls command, I think you have to use the -F option in order to
see the filetype. Someday when I figure out how to set up alias
commands, I am going to make up a set of commands that make sense. The
default for ls ought to be ls -lF|more
Don
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenny McCormack)
Subject: Is it possible to calculate BogoMIPS after booting (w/o rebooting) ?
Date: 13 Apr 1999 20:08:08 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is it possible to (re-) calculate BogoMIPS after booting (w/o rebooting) ?
Reason: My motherboard has circuitry that detects when things are running
too hot and drops the CPU speed down when that happens. So, it would be
cool if I could tell from Linux when that has happened.
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