Linux-Misc Digest #843, Volume #26 Wed, 17 Jan 01 18:13:01 EST
Contents:
Re: Linus Torvalds is dead?!?! ("jujubeesRULE")
Re: Linux not free anymore? (Rafael)
Re: open-source Visio app? (Toby Haynes)
Re: distribution recommendation? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
fax and pager softwares for linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Help with 2.4 upgrade ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux not free anymore? (Robert Surenko)
I lost my local character table under console and KDE ! ("Emmanuel Beranger")
.forward & ntpd (separate q's) (MC)
sym53c8xx, Tyan 251x and 2.2.18? ("Adrian Blakey")
Re: CDRW/Hard Drive Problems ("Peter Milnes")
Linux Opportunity (Jarrod Ditmore)
Re: How to tell which version of Linux (Jean-David Beyer)
ssh (Edwin Robert Tisdale)
Re: Increasing file descriptor for Informix with Linux ("Andrew Hamm")
Re: linux, w98 and w2k in LILO (John in SD)
Re: another lilo problem (John in SD)
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From: "jujubeesRULE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linus Torvalds is dead?!?!
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 21:10:13 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Dr. Jason J.
Hogan-O'Neill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is it true? I heard a radio report that Linus Torvalds was seriously
> injured in a car crash a couple of hours ago and his situation was
> critical.
>
> Does anyone have any other news on this?
>
Sounds like someone took Antitrust a little too seriously, or at least
couldn't come up with something original.
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From: Rafael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux not free anymore?
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 22:31:19 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the same in Poland. We do not pay taxes from something what not have
value. But tax office could not stand that there is something thay could not
take money from. Thay decide that linux could bring proffits and it have to
be under the tax. Thus it should take tax from people who do not have cars,
because they save money not buin the car.
Raael
Marcel Loesberg wrote:
> Rafael - LumesITSupport wrote:
>
> > First when I get info about it I did not believed. But it seems to be
> > true in Poland.
> > Tax offices trying to find money or paid by Microsoft :) started to put
> > tax from Linux.
>
> I read about the "Poland-Linux-tax thingy" in a Dutch magazine but I
> didn't take it very serious, until now.
> Scary. But I doubt this can happen in much other countries.
> In the Netherlands you don't pay taxes over something that has no
> commercial value, yet....
>
> Regards,
>
> Marcel
>
> --
> It sports 64K of L1 data cache, 64K of L1 instruction cache, three
> independent integer pipelines, three address calculation pipelines,
> and a fully pipelined, out-of-order, three-way floating-point engine.
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From: Toby Haynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.visio,comp.os.linux.development.apps,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: open-source Visio app?
Date: 17 Jan 2001 16:11:32 -0500
On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Is there anything like Visio that runs on Linux?
Try Dia for diagrams - it's pretty easy and straightforward to use. Its
designed to be like Visio and covers entity relationship diagrams, UML
diagrams, flowcharts, network diagrams, and simple circuits.
http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia/
Cheers,
Toby Haynes
--
Toby Haynes
The views and opinions expressed in this message are my own, and do
not necessarily reflect those of IBM Canada.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: distribution recommendation?
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 21:27:09 GMT
But not the IP Masq w/ VPN (i.e. masquerading VPN traffic), I've
noticed a patch, but was looking for a distribution that supports that
along with internet server functions.
In article <XP096.222883$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> [Posted and mailed]
>
> In article <93vlis$pn$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > Can someone recommend a distribution that can do this:
> >
> > firewall
> > IP Masq w/VPN support
> > apache webserver
> > Perl
>
> Any regular Linux distribution can do all these things. The only ones
> that can't are certain specialized things, like single-floppy router
> distributions or the like (and even they'll do the first two). For my
> thoughts on several distributions, check:
>
> http://www.rodsbooks.com/distribs/
>
> --
> Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.rodsbooks.com
> Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: fax and pager softwares for linux
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 21:30:18 GMT
hallo,
i am looking for a fax and pager softwares for linux that are reliable
(not beta) but more importantly they should be programmable via a API...
please let me know,
danke,
A
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Help with 2.4 upgrade
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 21:31:50 GMT
Hi I downloaded the new linux-2.4.0.tar.gz and am trying to upgrade.
My specific problem is with trying to configure binutils.
>From the linux/Documentation/Changes file, which the README says to
read,
it says I need atleast the revision numbers specified for certain
software.
my binutils was
$ ld -v
GNU ld version 2.9.1 (with BFD 2.9.1.0.23)
and the specified one is 2.9.1.0.25 so I decided to upgrade binutils.
The latest one I got was binutils-2.10.1.0.4
I have gcc --version 2.91.66 (as recommended)
Gnu Make 3.77 (as recommended)
however when I try to do a ./configure in the binutils directory
I get the following error message:
Configuring for a i686-pc-linux-gnu host.
Created "Makefile" in /usr/home/mbil/kernels/binutils-2.10.1.0.4 using
"mt-frag"
collect2: ld returned 33 exit status
*** The command '/usr/bin/gcc -o conftest -g conftest.c' failed.
*** You must set the environment variable CC to a working compiler.
and when I echo $CC it says /usr/bin/gcc
and as far as I know it is a working compiler.
any help would be greatly appreciated.
thanks
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From: Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux not free anymore?
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 21:42:57 GMT
What happens if you buy linux from cheapbytes rather than Redhat?
You can get a redhat clone for about $5 American at cheapbytes
yet Redhat sells their basic package for $30 American.
What happens if you download it off the net?
Do you pay a percentage of the cost of the "package" or some sort of
flat fee?
Rafael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It was the same in Poland. We do not pay taxes from something what not have
> value. But tax office could not stand that there is something thay could not
> take money from. Thay decide that linux could bring proffits and it have to
> be under the tax. Thus it should take tax from people who do not have cars,
> because they save money not buin the car.
> Raael
> Marcel Loesberg wrote:
>> Rafael - LumesITSupport wrote:
>>
>> > First when I get info about it I did not believed. But it seems to be
>> > true in Poland.
>> > Tax offices trying to find money or paid by Microsoft :) started to put
>> > tax from Linux.
>>
>> I read about the "Poland-Linux-tax thingy" in a Dutch magazine but I
>> didn't take it very serious, until now.
>> Scary. But I doubt this can happen in much other countries.
>> In the Netherlands you don't pay taxes over something that has no
>> commercial value, yet....
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Marcel
>>
>> --
>> It sports 64K of L1 data cache, 64K of L1 instruction cache, three
>> independent integer pipelines, three address calculation pipelines,
>> and a fully pipelined, out-of-order, three-way floating-point engine.
--
=============================================================================
- Bob Surenko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- http://www.fred.net/surenko/
=============================================================================
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From: "Emmanuel Beranger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: I lost my local character table under console and KDE !
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 22:44:04 +0100
Here is the spot :
I have Mandrake 7.1, with 2.2.17.
I just compiled 2.2.18, because I needed USB support.
I had mentionned the french keytable within the compile process, but
when I launched the kernel, I had lost my french characters (you now,
those with the "accents").
When I type under a console, I get some weird character like a greek
letter or else, but not the proper one.
And under KDE, everything that had an accent in it is now cut before the
incriminated letter !
The problem is : when booting 2.2.17, I have now the same Pb.
What should I look for ?
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From: MC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: .forward & ntpd (separate q's)
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 16:54:24 -0500
Two separate questions: (RedHat 6.2)
(note that im NOT a linux expert altho I can find my way around most
things)
##### .forward file #####
how do I get a copy kept locally, sent to an external mailbox, AND
filtered thru a program.
from what I can find on the net I would do this
localuser, [EMAIL PROTECTED], "|/usr/bin/program"
however the best results i can get with this is that it keeps a local
copy in localuser's account and it pipes the incoming mail to the
program, but it doesnt send the mail out, nor can I find any error
messages. any clues, even where i might check for msgs besides
/var/log/maillog
##### starting ntpd #####
where would i put ntpd to have it start on boot?
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thanks in advance
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From: "Adrian Blakey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: sym53c8xx, Tyan 251x and 2.2.18?
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 14:03:40 -0800
We have some new machines with Tyan thunder motherboards in them. They have
Symbios SCSI chips on the mb. We built a nice 2.1.18 kernel with new driver
for the SCSI. it is very unstable.
We keep getting: Kernel panic assertino k != -1 failed line 10128
Anyone out there with a similar working configuration able to offer some
advice?
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From: "Peter Milnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.windows98,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Subject: Re: CDRW/Hard Drive Problems
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 22:14:35 -0000
Why don't you put your two CD's on the same IDE? I have a Yamaha CD/R/RW as
secondary master and a Teac 32x CD as secondary slave. This works fine as the
Yamaha is equivalent to 40xCD. Eventually the Teac will be replaced by a Pioneer
DVD. Cheers, Peter.
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:942qvk$oc6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
: I am having difficulty getting a new Maxtor 7200 RPM 15 Gig hard drive
: installed and populated with operating systems. For several years I
: have used a 6.4 G Maxtor with no problems running a dual boot of
: windows98 and Linux (Slackware, RH60, RH62). Over the holidays I
: finally had time and installed a new Creative CDRW (8432) and the new
: hard drive. The main problem is Windows as it tends to crash in a
: surprising variety of ways. I did download from Maxtor their hard drive
: utilities and did a low level format and maxed out their factory
: test/certiifcation and found no errors on the drive. Many of the
: crashes were during formatting of the windows partition, but this last
: time everything went fine until after a few installs of software and
: reboots I was closing down scandisk on a separate partition and I get a
: message I have an unrecoverable error and windows needs to be rebooted.
: Through all of this linux has worked well (no need for re-installs)
: although I am hesitant to re-install (would prefer to copy my image over
: to save all my customizations). Could there possibly be a conflict with
: the CDRW (it did bitch when I put both CDs in the secondary IDE and the
: 2 hard drives on the primary) Any ideas? Here is my configuration.
:
: FIC VA503+ MB with 128MB Ram
: Maxtor 6.4 G 3600 RPM Drive of Maxtor 15G 7200 RPM Drive in P-IDE Master
: 32X CDROM in P-IDE Slave
: Creative 8432 CD-RW in S-IDE Master
: Matrox Productive G100 with 8MB in AGP Slot
: Turtle Beach PCI (Aureal Chipset - works great in Linux soso in Win98)
: RTL 8139 10/100 PCI Network Card
: ISA 56K Phoebe Modem
:
:
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jarrod Ditmore )
Subject: Linux Opportunity
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 22:25:30 GMT
Hello Linux Professionals,
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called D. Brown and Associates. We are currently working with a
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to provide feedback with changing LINUX technologies. Participate in
managing and integrating technical resources into
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**********
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Networking
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Strong oral/written communications
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Send your resume to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to tell which version of Linux
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:38:33 -0500
"Christopher W. Aiken" wrote:
>
> Is there any command that can be run to determine which
> "flavor" of Linux is on a machine?
>
> I'm looking for something that will tell me if it has
> Slack, RH, SuSE, MD, Caldera, Storm, etc. installed. "uname"
> gives kernel version etc. and does not give the information
> I need.
>
It is really hopeless, not because the information is not there, but
because the answer has so many orthogonal components. If yo are running
a Red Hat type system, for example, you would really have to do a rpm
-qa to get a listing of everything you have on the machine.
uname -r would tell you what kernel you are running.
cat /etc/issue would tell you what release was originally installed, but
would tell you NOTHING about any updates you put in. rpm -qa gives me
432 lines of output that I would be diffident about posting here. But
that would be what were required to know what distribution I am REALLY
running.
--
.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey
^^-^^ 5:35pm up 2 days, 4:38, 2 users, load average: 2.14, 2.05, 1.72
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From: Edwin Robert Tisdale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ssh
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 14:09:43 -0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Secure shell fails when I try to login to a Solaris machine:
linux$ ssh solaris
Disconnecting: Corrupted HMAC on input.
solaris$ ssh linux
warning: Authentication failed.
Disconnected; MAC error (Message authentication check fails.).
Any help would be much appreciated.
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From: "Andrew Hamm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.databases.informix
Subject: Re: Increasing file descriptor for Informix with Linux
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 10:07:26 +1100
Brett Randall wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>
>Worth a try I think. But what is more important to you / least risky -
>complying with the 3000 fd where 1024 seems to work OK (but have you
>load tested), or having a "unmodified" kernel source?
>
changing kernel parameters and recompiling the kernel is an intrinsic part
of UNIX history so it's a regular thing to do. Many UNIX's these days have
attempted to eliminate that need, but that's only a nice thing, not a reason
to avoid tradition on platforms that need it.
Having said that, I don't know how nasty it is to relink a kernel in Linux -
it's certainly been p***-easy on professional UNIX versions I've used in the
past.
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From: John in SD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: linux, w98 and w2k in LILO
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 23:03:58 GMT
On Mon, 15 Jan 2001 14:29:58 GMT, HellNo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello all,
>I have a working lilo config that lets me chose between linux and dos.
>If I chose dos, I then get the NT loader that offers a choice of NT or
>W98.
>
>Is there a way to select any of the 3 OS in Lilo rather than having to
>go to NT loader for w98?
LILO 21.6 can be configured with a second "other=" section to boot W98. This
is the first version of lilo which will automatically activate/deactivate
DOS/Windows primary partitions.
--John
LILO version 21.6.1 (16-Dec-2000) source at
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/system/boot/lilo
patches at ftp://brun.dyndns.org/pub/linux/lilo
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From: John in SD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: another lilo problem
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 23:07:35 GMT
On Wed, 17 Jan 2001 13:23:52 -0600, Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Jan Vandesompele wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have a pc system with a 12Gb harddrive in it. I installed my Redhat distro
>> (7) at the end of my harddrive. I create a boot disk so I can boot my linux.
>> However I want to install lilo so that i don't need that annoying bootdisk
>> anymore. When I tried to install lilo (by executing /etc/lilo) I get the
>> error:
>> Added linux
>> Warning: device 0x0307 exceeds 1024 cylinder limit
>> Fatal: sector 17045028 too large for linear mode (try 'lba32' instead)
>>
>> Lilo is not installed however. What do they mean with lba32? Is this the
>> harddisk mode you can set in most bios'es?
>> I can set it in mine however (it's a crappy Dell computer).
>> Someone suggested to create a small partition at the beginning of my
>> harddisk so that linux can boot from that. But how do I do that?
>> I create a linux native partition of let's say 100mb and then?
>>
>> Hopefully someone can help me out...
>>
>> Jan Vandesompele
>
>Older versions of lilo required that the partition containing the
>kernel be entirely below cylinder 1024. The latest version of lilo
>does not require this, but you need a line in /etc/lilo.conf of the
>form lba32. If there is a line of the form linear, that should be
>removed and replaced by the lba32 line.
>
>Since you don't say which version of Linux you have and which
>version of lilo, it is not clear whether or not your version of
>lilo supports booting from beyond cylinder 1023.
Versions of lilo beyond 21.2 will boot from beyond cylinder 1023 with the
'lba32' option. Just rember, that this capability requires EDD bios calls on
int 0x13. The LILO diagnostic disk will tell you if your BIOS has these
calls. (see the site below).
--John
LILO version 21.6.1 (16-Dec-2000) source at
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/system/boot/lilo
patches at ftp://brun.dyndns.org/pub/linux/lilo
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