Linux-Misc Digest #843, Volume #23 Tue, 14 Mar 00 05:13:02 EST
Contents:
with command "ps -m" thread display not implemented ("Steven L. Dahlin")
Re: Zip drive and kernel 2.2.14 (Andy9701)
Re: Filesystem problem (Vilmos Soti)
Re: Suggestions for SMP motherboard... (Chuan-kai Lin)
Re: If Linux is free, where can I get it? (Luke)
Question one -- a friendly editor (jygjyg)
Question two -- how to enable SPX protocol (jygjyg)
Re: how can my scripts know Linux has made a ppp connection? (Lew Pitcher)
Question 3 -- Install program/patch (jygjyg)
Re: Backup tools / old bru ? (Donald Arseneau)
Re: Question one -- a friendly editor (Dances With Crows)
Re: If Linux is free, where can I get it? (Villy Kruse)
Re: lilo failed? (Villy Kruse)
Re: Should ISP reset my hostname? (Villy Kruse)
Re: Audio CD to MP3? (Julio C. Gutierrez)
Re: Excessive hard drive paging (Andreas Kahari)
What happened to Linux Answers? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: ZOOM DualMode 56k ISA Faxmodem Model 2919 (Rob Clark)
setting up a LAN: wondering about file sharing ("Christopher D Mays")
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From: "Steven L. Dahlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: with command "ps -m" thread display not implemented
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 22:28:57 -0700
I am using Redhat Linux v6.0. Apparently with this version the command
ps -m does not work because the "Thread display not implemented" Do I
need to recompile PS to fix this??
Thanks,
Steve
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From: Andy9701 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Zip drive and kernel 2.2.14
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 05:37:53 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Allin Cottrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Andy9701 wrote:
> >
> > I'm having some problems using my zip drive under kernel 2.2.14. I
> > have a parallel port zip 100 drive, which I've had no problems with
> > under 2.2.5-15 (RedHat 6). Under the old kernel, I had to insmod
> > parport and ppa, and then mount the zip drive. When building the
newer
> > kernel, I'm pretty sure I build parport into the kernel, but I'm not
> > sure about ppa.
> >
> > Anyway, I can't get my zip drive to work. Assuming that the two
> > modules are built into the kernel, I mount my zip drive, which under
> > 2.2.5-15 was at /dev/sd4. I get an error stating that the kernel
> > doesn't recognize /dev/sd4 as a block device.
>
> Try /dev/sda4
Actually, I was using /dev/sda4, I just typed it wrong in my previous
post. I'm real sorry about that.
Do you have any other ideas?
Thanks in advance,
Andy
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Subject: Re: Filesystem problem
From: Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 05:52:09 GMT
Ivo Jansch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hello,
>
> I have a weird problem with my harddisk. When I do fdisk, and print the
> partition table, I get this:
>
[snip]
>
> First of all, hda9 does not appear in the partition table, but it *is*
> there. (my home dirs work fine..)
This is very strange, indeed.
> Second, the types are inconsistent. hda5 to hda8 *used* to be FAT16, but
> I mke2fs'ed them a long time ago. Apperently, the partition table does
> not reflect this. Does anyone have an idea how to fix this?
This is normal. The partition table has a section for each partition
which describes the filesystem. It is just a placeholder, nothing more.
You can specify, for example, an MSDOS filesystem, but later format
the partition to ext2, as in your case. Don't worry about it. Linux
doesn't use the partition table entry for the filesystem, but Windows
does use. This is a nice way to hide a partition from Windows. Format
it for Windows, use it, and if you don't want others to see it under
Windows, go to Linux and changed the partition table entry to, say,
Amobea. Windows won't see the partition anymore.
Vilmos
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From: Chuan-kai Lin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Suggestions for SMP motherboard...
Date: 14 Mar 2000 06:14:07 GMT
David .. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is not true I have a dual pentium system with the 440GX chipset and
> it does a great job.
> It is a Supermicro S2DGU.
Intel 440GX is for Pentium-II and Pentium-III Xeon systems, and the
same goes for the S2DGU motherboard.
Do you really need to show off this way? :-)
-- Chuan-kai Lin
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From: Luke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: If Linux is free, where can I get it?
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 06:16:32 GMT
Yes, Linux distributions are free, but unless you have a broadband connection
and a cd burner, it is impractical to do it yourself. Buy a boxed
distribution, or go to linuxmall.com and get one of their cheapo CD's for like
a couple bucks. Or go to ebay and look for cd's--tons of people with cable
modems and cd burners make a batch of these things and sell them cheap.
As far as redhat/corell? I don't know. I have used RedHat in a server
setting and in a desktop setting and I am pleased with both. You will find RH
6.1 and above easy to install. All I know about Corell's distribution is that
it is touted as being the easiest of the easy distribs. It was suposedly
designed with ease first so that total newbies could experience Linux, too.
Good luck.
> I know this is a really dumb question, but I have asked everyone, and
> nobody can tell me. Where can I get it? I tried download.com and
> linux.org etc. I find links to FTP, but I get confused in FTP and I don't
> know where to look. The folders are barely labled, and when they are,
> they don't have anything useful in them.
>
> Ok, the second part is if I do decide to break down and buy it, what have
> you heard about Corel's Linux? Better than Redhat?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jeremy
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> --
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> http://www.help.com/
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Subject: Question one -- a friendly editor
From: jygjyg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 23:14:13 -0800
I am a new user to Linux but I found it was very hard to me to
learn it myself. So I come here.I think everybody know Linux is
not friendly for the user, at least, not for me -- even I
installed X Window and I have 5 years IT experience.
I know there are many HOWTOs which can help us to setup/use the
system, unfortunatelly, I found it is just suitable for them who
are Unix experts. I often spent 2-3 days on one HOWTO without
full understanding.
O.K. I have some questions now and they are seperated in one
question per discussion so we can have a good topic. Any comment
will be appreciated and thanks in advance.
Question 1: Is there a good/friendly editor whick is like edit
in DOS? I tried VI and XEmacs, but they have absolutely style.
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Subject: Question two -- how to enable SPX protocol
From: jygjyg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 23:21:03 -0800
Question 2: How to enable SPX protocol in Linux?
I installed ncpfs with the help of ipx-howto. Everytime when I
restart Linux, I can not find any Netware server in the network
by using "SLIST". But I can ping all the TCP/IP devices in the
same network. Then I start netconf and then do nothing, just
quit with "Active the changes", the the SPX protocol can be
enabled and I can find all the netware server.
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From: Lew Pitcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how can my scripts know Linux has made a ppp connection?
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 07:30:26 GMT
* wrote:
>
> pppd will execute the contents of the file /etc/ppp/ip-up when it
> successfully negotiates a ppp connection (see the pppd man page, it's near
> the end) and the link is available to send/receive IP packets. You can
> place whatever you need in this file to let either you or your scripts
> know the ppp connection is really "up". I make use of this feature by
> creating a "PPPisup" file which I test for in scripts that do things that
> require an active ppp connection. To complete the picture, I have a ppp
> disconnect script that deletes the "PPPisup" file when I break the ppp
> connection. This is kinda crude, but it works OK for me.
A slight enhancement is to make the PPPisup file contain the IP
address of the local end of the ppp connection. This is easily done as
the fifth parameter passed to /etc/ppp/ip-up is the local IP address,
so a simple
echo $5 >PPPisup
works fine.
In more complex PPP setups, it might be beneficial to name the file
for the ppp connection that has been established, so ...
echo $5 >$1.isup
will work because the first parameter passed to ip-up is the interface
name (i.e. "ppp0").
Similarly, the /etc/ppp/ip-down takes the same parameters, so the
inverse operations are possible as well.
--
Lew Pitcher
Master Codewright and JOAT-in-training
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Subject: Question 3 -- Install program/patch
From: jygjyg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 23:45:03 -0800
Question 3: how to install a program or a patch in Linux?
Maybe the answer can be find in kernel-howto but I still want to
know the simple answer: do we need to rebuild the kernel
everytime when we install a program or a patch?
Example, Linux supprot netware client and it is ncpfs.rpm or
ncpfs.tgz. For ncpfs.rpm, it is simple, we can use "rpm -i" to
install it. After the installation, is there any change about
the kernel? For ncpfs.tgz, we must upzip it, make...(I tried,
but I failued). What is the difference between those two
installation?
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From: Donald Arseneau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Backup tools / old bru ?
Date: 13 Mar 2000 23:33:13 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phillip Deackes) writes:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Donald Arseneau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I've been using bru for backups, but after updating libraries it
> >stopped working (segfault).
> (Debian Potato, glibc 2.1) and it works fine.
Thanks all; I just found the problem was with a corrupted bruxpat
file (typing corruption, not disk corruption). It seems bru is
less than elegant when it fails to parse the entries.
I'm still switching backup methods though, because I have little faith
thet bru will be able to run under some future update.
Donald Arseneau [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Question one -- a friendly editor
Date: 14 Mar 2000 02:35:10 EST
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 13 Mar 2000 23:14:13 -0800, jygjyg
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>Question 1: Is there a good/friendly editor whick is like edit
>in DOS? I tried VI and XEmacs, but they have absolutely style.
You're damn right vi(m) and (X)Emacs have absolutely style. Emacs
outshines all other text editors in much the same way a vast pile of
radioactive waste outshines a 120-watt light bulb. ;-)
pico is much less powerful, but it's an excellent choice for new users as
it almost always does what you expect and has a list of most of the
commands at the bottom of the screen by default. pico comes with the pine
E-mail system, and it's probably installed on your system anyway. jed is
another simple editor, and I believe you can set it up to run exactly like
EDIT if you're that masochistic. Others swear by joe. nedit is one of
the niftiest GUI text editors; easy to use and lots of options for
advanced use like syntax highlighting...
--
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There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| Computers are lousy actors
But only Light too dim for us to see \#| Lusers are vicious drama critics
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| BOFHen burn down theatres.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Subject: Re: If Linux is free, where can I get it?
Date: 14 Mar 2000 08:36:16 GMT
On Tue, 14 Mar 2000 06:16:32 GMT, Luke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Yes, Linux distributions are free, but unless you have a broadband connection
>and a cd burner, it is impractical to do it yourself. Buy a boxed
>distribution, or go to linuxmall.com and get one of their cheapo CD's for like
>a couple bucks. Or go to ebay and look for cd's--tons of people with cable
>modems and cd burners make a batch of these things and sell them cheap.
>
ALso, there are plenty of books that includes a linux CD. Unless you have
prior unix experience, you would need the book anyway (IMHO).
One of the freedoms of linux is that you do not have to sign a NDA
to get access to the source code, should you ever need the access.
Villy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Subject: Re: lilo failed?
Date: 14 Mar 2000 08:46:24 GMT
On 11 Mar 2000 07:02:19 GMT,
Cameron L. Spitzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Maybe. See ftp://sd.dynhost.com/pub/linux/lilo/
>or ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/boot/lilo/.
>Is 21.3 the current production Lilo source, or an experimental
>side branch? The LSM file says "Updated for disks > 1024 cylinders."
>Does that mean it needs the recent Int13 BIOS extension?
>Or can it make do without, as Microsoft has figured out how to do?
>I think that would require kernel changes, but 21.3 says it only
>requires "Linux 0.99pl12 or newer."
>
As the tricky part of lilo occurs before linux is loaded it is prety
independent of what linux version it is loading. The only special service
from the linux kernel are the physical sector addresses of each disk file
blocks for the files that the lilo loader needs to load. Whether the
lilo loader is using the old or the new BIOS calls makes no difference
for the linux kernel. Also if you look at the new lilo version (called
rel22 it its beta version) you will see it still supports the old int13
bios calls. Only if you install the lilo loader and/or the kernel files
beyond the 1024 limit will you need the new extended int13 call. The
linux kernel, as you know, will never use BIOS for any disk access anyway
so it was never limited by cyl1024.
Villy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Subject: Re: Should ISP reset my hostname?
Date: 14 Mar 2000 08:52:41 GMT
On 14 Mar 2000 03:36:09 GMT,
Andrew Purugganan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have one of those free internet access-type connections, forcibly made
>to run in Linux ;-) I have left my hostname as 'localhost.localdomain',
>but whenever I dial up to my ISP, when I type 'hostname' at the prompt,
>it is no longer 'localhost.localdomain' but a name that changes almost
>every other day (to prevent ppl like me I guess from forcing it to run in
>Linux) since I log in everyday
>
>Is there a way to keep this from happening?
That is a redhat feature so you would not have to assign a name to your
system, but the system will retreive the name from the DNS server based
on the IP number assigned by DHCP. This only happens if the hostname
is either undefined or "localhost".
Try change the name by putting the line
HOSTNAME=mymachine.localdomain
in the file /etc/sysconfig/network
Villy
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From: Julio C. Gutierrez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Audio CD to MP3?
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 08:56:39 GMT
Ivan Martinez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello, which software can I use to record audio CD songs in MP3 files?.
> Thank you in advance.
I use cdda2wav to extract audio tracks to wav files and then gogo to encode
them into mp3. gogo also includes a shell script that will pump data from
cdda2wav directly into the encoder, thus making the wav-step unnecessary.
You can search for them at www.freshmeat.net
--
Julio C. G. -- Please remove both X to send email.
Linux Reg. User #75892 ; GPG Key Available.
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From: Andreas Kahari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Excessive hard drive paging
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 08:57:25 GMT
I had the same "trouble" on my Dell Dimension XPS (a midi tower) and
also now on my Dell Inspiron 3400 (a laptop).
Maybe it's a Dell thing?
On my laptop I have a minimal Debian install and I run very few daemons.
/A
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Mar 2000 14:51:24 -0500, Doug Bible wrote:
> >I have set up numerous linux systems and have not run across a system
> >with such excessive hard drive paging. I have installed linux on a
Dell
> >Precision 610. This system is has an Adaptec 7890 controller with a
> >Seagate drive (model ST39102LW). About every 5-10 seconds I heard the
> >drive accessing. To see if I have some process running that is trying
> >to access the drive I went through and shutdown/killed every process
> >viewable using 'ps'. Having nothing left but those processes
necessary
> >for the system to even run, the drive access persisted. I get the
> >feeling that it is something on the kernel level that is causing this
to
> >occur. I even recompiled to a newer kernel with no avail.
> >
> >My main question is this: Is there an application that would allow me
> >to monitor the processes (even at the kernel level) that are
accessing
> >the hard drive? Any assistance would be appreciated, for this is
> >driving me nuts having to sit and listen to this machine. If there is
> >no help for me, my last course of action would be to get extra long
> >keyboard/mouse/video cables and put the thing in the closet :)
> >
> >Doug Bible
>
> This sounds asthough it could be a million things, suppose you've
already
> checked all the cron jobs, checked that sendmail isn't constantly
trying
> to send those unsent messages / constantly polling the server to check
> for new mail. Is it able to see all of it's memory, have you got a 1K
swap
> partition, is it updating one of the log files every few seconds, does
it do
> this on the console or only in X but like I said I'm sure you've
checked
> all of that stuff, you sound asthough you know what you're doing.
>
> Let us know the outcome.
> --
> Cheers
> Steve email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> %HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee 0 pps.
>
> web http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~sjlen/
>
> or http://start.at/zero-pps
>
> 11:50pm up 10:28, 6 users, load average: 1.12, 1.21, 1.18
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: What happened to Linux Answers?
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 09:30:44 GMT
Anybody knows?
Last time I heard was that the next issue would be available in March.
No reason to quit since their first issue (before X-mas) was sold out
early and had to be reprinted.
frank
(PS. It's a UK based GNU/Linux magazine, in case you didn't know.)
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Subject: Re: ZOOM DualMode 56k ISA Faxmodem Model 2919
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob Clark)
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 09:39:05 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Dennis Fenton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>No doubt about it, there's a HOWTO for just about everything in the Linux
>world. But, the reason it seems to me that we have newsgroups is so that
>people with pertinant knowledge can share it. If I have to wade through
>reams of HOWTOs every time I want to know something I'll soon lose
>interest in Linux.
The flip side is that if the people answering have to wade through reams
of newbie questions that are answered in the HOWTOs, they will lose
interest in Usenet. Most readers do not consider themselves an unpaid
support hotline for Linux--they would rather help people like themselves
who have reached an impasse and may benefit from a helping hand.
The best way to get more than the standard RTFM response is to summarize
the problem, list the resources already consulted, and then give
all of the relevant specifics such as hardware types, config settings,
etc.
In the pre-Dejanews days, newsgroup FAQs were frequently posted. To post
a question to the newsgroup without having read the FAQ demonstrated a
lack of good faith effort to solve ones own problem.
Rob Clark, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html
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From: "Christopher D Mays" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: setting up a LAN: wondering about file sharing
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 01:46:29 -0800
Hi folks,
I'm going to soon be setting up a LAN with about 4 computers, all of
which will be using a LINUX proxy server to connect through the internet
(DSL). What I am wondering is what I need to do so that the individual boxes
in the network (all running win/98) can access each other's files. I am
thinking of using Novell, because it is supported by both windows AND
linux....is there a better one out there, or can anyone give me some
pointers?
Chris Mays
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