Linux-Misc Digest #855, Volume #19               Thu, 15 Apr 99 13:13:15 EDT

Contents:
  problem with playing mp3s (Stefan Hetzl)
  Re: Help choosing distribution (Gary Momarison)
  Re: what's the best browser for linux? (Roland Latour)
  Re: how to mount tmp partition? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Able to access CDROM in root but not is user (Stijn Buys)
  Re: ps/2 mouse in startx (Blair  Powell)
  Re: Able to access CDROM in root but not is user (Sander Zijlstra)
  Re: VMware sell-out to Microsoft??? ("Edwin E. Thorne")
  Re: Linux is dead (Jim Henderson)
  Re: Ran out of input data ("Mark")
  Re: Linux is dead (Harry Lewis)
  RH 5 --> RH 5.2: probs (Greg F Walz Chojnacki)
  Re: Auto-fallover with Linux - How To... (Blotto)
  FREE Computer Documentation ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Linux Database for commercial project (Blotto)
  I/O error on SCSI disk ("Fr�d�ric Hoerni")
  Re: coredump wit free() (J.H.M. Dassen (Ray))
  Re: ppp setup ("Hugh")

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From: Stefan Hetzl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: problem with playing mp3s
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:16:33 GMT

Hi,

I have tried the two mp3 players x11amp and freeamp but I get the same
result with both (I tried it with different mp3 files): There is always
a very high level of "background" noise / distortion which makes it
impossible to hear and even identify the song. Playing Audio-CDs works
without problem on my system (perfect quality). This seems to be somehow
sound driver-related... but I am not sure, I have no idea what I could
try to do. Has anyone had a similar problem or knows what could be wrong
?
I am using a Soundblaster 16 Clone (by Terratec) and Redhat 5.1. The
sound driver is loaded as a kernel module.

Thanks

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From: Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Help choosing distribution
Date: 15 Apr 1999 07:53:19 -0700

Hate Spam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I don't want to start yet another holy war on distributions. Please keep
> your comments sensible.  Thanx.
> 
> I would like to install and play with linux. I am pretty good with
> computers, with some programming experience. I've played with unix
> machine at school (IRIX server), read lots of FAQs on linux, and
> distribution how-to's.  I get the sense that RH is most popular and
> probably the easiests to set up. But I would like something less
> "packaged" so that I could get a change to "get my hands dirty" so to
> speak.  I figure that way I would learn more than if things were just
> set up for me, ready to run.  
> 
> So, here I am, debating perhaps I should go with Slackware, or maybe
> Debian.  I don't know too much about other distributions (like SuSE and
> such).  What I would like is your comment on the strength and weaknesses
> of various distributions. Thanks in advance.

I wonder how much is too much?

Don't worry about not learning as much with Red Hat.  There are plenty
of things you can and will learn with any distro.  So much that you
should be careful to devote your efforts to learning things of lasting
value. It is very easy to spend lots of time leaning things that will
be of little or no value a year or several from now.

You can find links to some distro comparisons at

http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/distributions.html

-- 
Look for Linux info at http://www.dejanews.com/home_ps.shtml and
Gary's Encyclopedia at http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/index.html

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From: Roland Latour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: what's the best browser for linux?
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 07:20:45 -0700

Armando Ortiz wrote:
> 
> Bob Tennent wrote:
> 
> > I've heard good things about 4.51 but I still use 3.04; it's small and
> > almost never crashes.
> 
> I like that...hehehehe....'ALMOST'...

I use Netscape 3.04, and the only crashes I've had have been when the
browser is fed bad HTML created by that MS crap. MS is trying to
embrace,
extend, and destroy the web by corrupting as many sites as they can.

See http://www.fourmilab.ch/webtools/demoroniser/
-- 
 Retired Tech Support Engineer       http://home.cdsnet.net/~rolandl
"Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." -Ben
Franklin

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: how to mount tmp partition?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 12:53:10 GMT

Gerald Willmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have unsucessfully tried over the last couple of days to mount a tmp
> partition. The mount point has drwxrwxrwt permission but once I mount the
> partition that changes to drwxr-xr-x which won't do since normal users

The permissions of the mounted device shadow those on the mount point.
Use chmod after your new /tmp is mounted.

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From: Stijn Buys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Able to access CDROM in root but not is user
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 17:26:16 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Chas Samuels wrote:
> While still in
> root, I accessed the CDROM drive and audio OK.  I attempted to access it as 
> a user and the CD drive would not activate.
> 
>  The cdrom file in the /dev directory reads out lrwxrwxrwx so it would seem
> that the user should be able to execute it.  I may be confused with some of
> the Linux lingo and perhaps what I'm looking at but I'm new at this and we
> all gotta learn if we're gonna use this booger.

/dev/cdrom is just a softlink to the real cdrom device, it means it
is not a real file, put just points to another.
(Like "Shortcuts" in that other OS, but a lot better)

Just type "ls -l /dev/cdrom" and you'll get something like

lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     root            3 Apr  8 23:09 /dev/cdrom -> hdd

(If you want to know more about links, read "man ln")

In this case, the real device is /dev/hdd, on which you have to set the
right permissions. "ls -l /dev/hdd" gives me

brw-rw----   1 root     local     22,  64 May  5  1998 /dev/hdd

The group local is just a group for myself and root, so I'm the only one
why can actually play audio CD's, which is rather handy because we have
a large network on the campus, and a lot of my friends have a login on
my machine.  I don't when them to be able to play CD's.

(if you want to know more about permission and owners, just read 
 "man chmod", "man chown" and  "man chgrp")

Hope this helps,
-- 
Stijn Buys   | [EMAIL PROTECTED]

              "Make him an offer he can't refuse" - Don Corneole

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Blair  Powell)
Subject: Re: ps/2 mouse in startx
Date: 15 Apr 1999 15:26:19 GMT

In article <eUWQ2.1393$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
NewsReader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>For some reason when i do a startx my mouse gets really freaky on me that I
>can not use it.  I have an intellimouse ps/2 mouse.  I have slackware (most
>current) and when I did the xf86config I tried both the intellimouse and
>just the regular ps/2 mouse drivers but it doesn't work.

I had the same trouble, here's what worked for me:  I use the PS/2 driver,
and the Mouse Device is /dev/psaux, not /dev/mouse.  That worked for
me on DosLinux .....

Good luck!
Cheers,
Blair

=============
Highway 13
http://www.pitt.edu/~blair1/highway13.html


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From: Sander Zijlstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Able to access CDROM in root but not is user
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 17:14:04 +0200

Chas Samuels wrote:
> 
> The subject pretty well sums it up. When I reinstalled RH 5.2, the audio
> wouldn't play at all. I set  it up using Setup and it worked.  While still in
> root, I accessed the CDROM drive and audio OK.  I attempted to access it as a
> user and the CD drive would not activate.
> 
>  The cdrom file in the /dev directory reads out lrwxrwxrwx so it would seem
> that the user should be able to execute it.  I may be confused with some of
> the Linux lingo and perhaps what I'm looking at but I'm new at this and we all
> gotta learn if we're gonna use this booger.
> 
> So, any help you could give me to resolve this problem would be appreciated.
> And, I thank you in advance.

you need to add the option user to your cdrom label in /etc/fstab, like
this

/dev/cdrom      /cdrom          noauto,ro,user 0 0

this works also with your floppy disk,

-- 
Sander Zijlstra,
HTS afstudeer-student.
Technische Universiteit Delft.
Faculteit Informatietechnologie en systemen. (ITS)
Mobile Multimedia Communication Project. (MMC)
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Room:   11.110 
Phone:  +31 (0)15-2783234 
url:    http://mmc.et.tudelft.nl/~sander

--- Microsoft SELLS you Windows, Linux GIVES you the whole house ---

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From: "Edwin E. Thorne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: VMware sell-out to Microsoft???
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:58:51 -0500


Charles E Taylor IV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <7f2csd$p2m$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Edwin E. Thorne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > No thanks, Norman.    I'll just keep all of my fingers and keep on using
> > Windows.
>
> ... until your fingers drop off from hitting "control-alt-delete" so
> many times.

And when will this start happening?   Sure I've had to use
control-alt-delete to kill a program now and then, but it's not so frequent
as you make it sound.   Say, doesn't Unix have commands to kill processes?
Gee, I wonder why.  I'll bet they're not as easy to use as picking the
process off a dialog box list either.

> --
> --------------------------------------------------------
> Charles E Taylor IV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> --------------------------------------------------------
> Visit me on the web!
> http://orangesherbert.ces.clemson.edu
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From: Jim Henderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux is dead
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:41:48 -0600

Harry wrote:
> 
> > Oh yes.
> >
> > jik- wrote:
> >> Is Linux trademarked?
> 
> Perhaps, in true MS tradition, they'll call it Microsoft L++?

More likely, ActiveLinux or ActiveNix (to avoid trademark infringement
stuff).

After all, everything from M$ these days is ActiveThis or ActiveThat. 
Wonderful implication that everyone else's is "Inactive", even though
the Bloatware Active* products tend to spend a lot of time waiting for
the load to finish. ;-)

Jim
-- 
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Novell Support Connection SysOp - http://support.novell.com/forums

Homepage at http://www.bigfoot.com/~jhenderson (email instructions
located here)

Please note that as an NSC SysOp, I do not provide support for Novell
products on a personal basis - if you need help with a Novell product,
please post a reply in the public newsgroup or visit the Novell support
forums at the URL above.

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From: "Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ran out of input data
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 15:18:33 +0100

Hi,
I`m not sure what the problem your having might be but...I got that error if
I started Linux after the PC had just been using DOS/Windows. If your doing
that try this...Turn the PC off for a few seconds...turn it back on a load
Linux right away before anything else...this works for me.
Cheers,
Mark.

Palitha Weerakkody <"palitha"@melbpc.org.au (Palitha Weerakkody)> wrote in
message news:7f4iak$661$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi All,
> I'm using RH5.2. I down loaded new kernal 2.2.5
> and managed to install. after reboot, system halted.
> It say " Loading Linux
>         Uncompressing Linux
>         Ran out of input data
>         system halted"
>
> Any one have seen this problem, I can boot my old kernal as normal.
> Please let me know.
> Thanks
> Palitha
>



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From: Harry Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux is dead
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 17:07:20 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> I'll say, you seem to have failed to notice that your're posting to a
newsgroup and not exchanging emails.

I think the problem was that people kept picking up each others
arguments like they were their own!

What's wrong with PMFJI?

Besides which, I was only midly amused - no need to get all shirty,
mate!

Harry


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From: Greg F Walz Chojnacki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RH 5 --> RH 5.2: probs
Date: 15 Apr 1999 16:42:22 GMT

I have been running RH 5.0 with kernel 2.0.34.x (IIRC) and a friend offered
me a 5.2 CDROM to upgrade with. (It says both CheapBytes and RedHat; I
assume it's kosher.)

I used the installation diskette that came with RH 5.0, and selected upgrade,
but somewhere in the process a message comes up in the background:
        "Unable to open /usr/lib/rpm/rpmrc for reading. No such FSelect
installation path"

Seems obvious that I'm looking at two separate messages that are competing
for the same lines on the screen: It's not finding rpmrc, and it wants me
to suggest a different path to it. Problems are:
        a) I'm not sure rpmrc exists (though I've used RPM), or where; and
        b) the screen in question doesn't offer a space where I can enter
           the new path.

In a related (maybe) matter,I thought I'd play with glint. However, when I
select "available" it looks at the cdrom and finds nothing available. glint
is configured to look at /mnt/cdrom/RedHat/RPMS/ and that directory on the
CDROM does contain lots of rpm files. A possible clue here is that the
terminal window from which I invoke glint has, among other messages,
"Exception in Tkinter callback"

So , WTF?

Is there some completely different way I can upgrade using the CDROM?

Thanks for any insight.

Greg


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Blotto)
Subject: Re: Auto-fallover with Linux - How To...
Date: 15 Apr 1999 12:54:30 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Walter Klomp ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Hi,

: I am trying to implement an auto-fallover system with 2 Redhat linux boxes,
: using rsync...

: There used to be clusterd on ftp.ssc.com which basically runs on both
: servers and takes action (starting and stopping programs) when one of them
: goes down...

: Does anybody have an idea where this program went ?  It's no longer there,
: and a web-search yields nothing but parallel processing application, which I
: am not looking for...

: If anybody out there has a working example of 2 servers taking over
: eachother services in case of a hardware failure, which he/she wishes to
: share with me, please let me/us know.

: Any help very appreciated.

: Walter Klomp


Check www.slashdot.org since they just discussed this in the last week or so.
Search for HA (high availability).



--
        Mike,
        [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: FREE Computer Documentation
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 15:39:18 GMT

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Blotto)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Linux Database for commercial project
Date: 15 Apr 1999 12:49:15 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Warren Rodie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Thanks to everyone who answered.  We haven't made a decision yet, but at
: least we have some more ideas.

: Thanks,

: Warren Rodie
: PnP Solutions


: >IBM's DB2
: >Sybase
: >Oracle
: >Informix

Perhaps, you could be the test site for postgres in a real-life
business system. I'm thinking that if you chose a commercial DBMS
such as those above, that whatever data is being written to them,
is simultaneously being written to the free Postgres SQL or MYsql.

As time goes by you could tell all of us whether the free ones
are as stable as the commercial ones. Of course you'd rely on
the commercial ones initially, but as your confidence picks up
in the free ones, you could got totally free.

It'd be nice to know the end results. Linux started based on
pessimism in a business environment, and now postgres sql now
needs to follow that same path.

--
        Mike,
        [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: "Fr�d�ric Hoerni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: I/O error on SCSI disk
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 18:16:26 +0200

Hello,
I got the following message a few times when booting linux :

/dev/sda1 contains a file system with errors, check forced
scsi disk i/o error : dev 08:01 sector .....etc...
Additional sense indicates Unrecovered read error.

Sometimes it goes on ok, but other times I have to run fsck and answer
'ignore <y>' to the problems.

Does anyone have an idea of the problem and is it easy to correct ?

Thanks

Fred ([EMAIL PROTECTED])




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J.H.M. Dassen (Ray))
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.lang.c,fr.comp.lang.c
Subject: Re: coredump wit free()
Date: 14 Apr 1999 14:06:53 GMT

Kenny McCormack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Given that the original poster was posting from Czechoslovakia in English,
>it seems odd to get replies in French.

Check again. The original poster was "Fr�d�ric Hoerni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
sounds quite French in my book.

>It seems clear to me that replies in languages other then English ought to
>be either:

It seems clear to me that people with a .com address should be made aware
that English isn't the only language spoken on this globe and that there is
no $DEITY-given right to demand English be the only language used in a big 7
usenet group.

>Anyway, the answer to the query is: You screwed up - trust me on this.

AOL on that. From my form replies:
        You can find a list of memory allocation debugging tools at
        http://www.cs.colorado.edu/homes/zorn/public_html/MallocDebug.html
        Unfortunately, it doesn't list 
        checker http://www.fsf.org/software/checker/checker.html or
        ccmalloc http://iseran.ira.uka.de/~armin/ccmalloc/ .

Ray
-- 
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yesterday but which everyone swears won't happen until tomorrow.  
- The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan 

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Subject: Re: ppp setup
From: "Hugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 15 Apr 99 08:38:56 CST

Call your ISP and ask them if they have a script for connecting using a
linux box. Mine had a script on their ftp site that did the work for me.

Hugh 
-- 
Remove NOSPAM from address to reply.

NewsReader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in article
<OYWQ2.1406$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> I was wondering if someone might help me point to where I can learn how
to
> just setup my linux box (just installed it today) for ppp.  I just need
to
> setup ppp to dial to my isp.
> 
> I installed slackware and i tried running pppsetup and then ppp-go but it
> didn't seem to really connect.  Can anyone recommend a good book for a
> newbie?
> 
> thanks
> 
> 
> 

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