Linux-Misc Digest #855, Volume #18 Mon, 1 Feb 99 10:13:15 EST
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Re: QIC02 TAPE, SuSE 5.3.. how to install and read? Thank you fellows in advance!
("Blackey")
Redirectin Traffic based on Port Nr. ("Volker Kalthaus")
Kernel 2.2.0 and pty's (Juan Leon Lahoz Garcia)
Re: Criminally Insane Programmers Are Attracted To Open Source Code (duncan corps)
Re: where did shutdown go? I miss it! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Problem with Creative Graphics Blaster Exxtreme card Help!! (ahwan)
Re: DMA (Benoit PLESSIS)
Re: Linux/KDE/Netscape PAGING immensly (Mike Willett LADS LDN X7563)
Re: repartitioning win98 drive (David Lodge)
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters ("Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus")
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (Stephen So)
Login ? (bori7)
Re: HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Fabrizio Albonico)
A Precise Definition of "Windows 95 (K.C. Adams)
more than 16 SCSI disks ? ("Alexandre Maret")
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters (Mark Stolz)
info (gus)
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (Ralez Armon)
repartitioning win98 drive ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: "Blackey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: QIC02 TAPE, SuSE 5.3.. how to install and read? Thank you fellows in
advance!
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 12:21:40 +0100
Thank you very much for your help.
I saw the site but that's for floppy "oriented" tapes.
Thank you again,
Blackey
A E Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>Blackey wrote:
>
>> I have old fashion QIC02 Tape (150MB extended to 250MB) which is
connected
>> through slot as modem etc and then, as a 25pin connector to the external
>> drive. I think that manufacturer is ARCHIVE.
>>
>> According instructions I made new kernel but I don't know how to init
>> (mount) and to read data from tape.
>
>Visit
> http://www.math1.rwth-aachen.de/~heine/ftape/
>and make sure that you have the latest version. There you will also find
>extensive documentation. If you still have problems, ask on the ftape
>list, mentioned in the documentation.
>
>ael
>--
>Dr A E Lawrence (from home)
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From: "Volker Kalthaus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Redirectin Traffic based on Port Nr.
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 12:25:54 +0100
Hello all,
i need help dealing with the following problem:
i have one linux box servin as router & firewall. This Linux Box has one
official internet IP Adress. My Problem is now, that i want to redirect all
incoming traffic on port 80 to a specific IP Adr. Same for port 25.
So how can i redirect Traffic on Linux based on Port Nr. to other IP Adrs
???????
Thanks in advance,
Volker Kalthaus
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Juan Leon Lahoz Garcia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Kernel 2.2.0 and pty's
Date: 01 Feb 1999 13:06:37 +0100
I've installed the 2.2.0 kernel, but when I boot up with this kernel
xterm doesn't work (nor rxvt). The error message is "out of pty". In
the file Changes, I've found that piece of info:
| As of 2.1.115, support for the deprecated major 4 /dev/ttyp* devices
| was removed. If necessary (eg, you get "out of pty" error messages when
| you obviously are not out of pty's), create major 3 /dev/tty* and major
| 2 /dev/pty* devices (see Documentation/devices.txt for more
| information). In general, you should make sure that your /dev
| directory is up-to-date if you are experiencing any problems.
The devices.txt only tells me the names: /dev/ttyp[0-9] and
/dev/ptyp[0-9], but I have these names in use by major 4 devices.
I would like to know how to create these devices, and if I can delete
the deprecated ones (I want to mantain a 2.0.35 kernel).
TIA.
(Please, send me a CC: my news server takes some days to update the
messages)
--
Leon
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From: duncan corps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Criminally Insane Programmers Are Attracted To Open Source Code
Date: 1 Feb 1999 12:29:46 -0000
Reply-To: duncan corps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
This was written by mlw in uk.comp.os.linux...
|> Almost every internet key word search ends up at
|> either at "hot teens" or a lesbian chatroom anyway,
Mine don't. :-(
FU set.
--
Remember, folks, if you're not already running *NIX then DOS is your
friend. - Malcolm Pack
If you're not already breathing on a regular basis, then shoving a
jackhammer up your ass is a good idea. - Daniel E. Macks
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: where did shutdown go? I miss it!
Date: 22 Jan 1999 22:07:37 GMT
On 17 Jan 1999 09:34:51 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chetan Ahuja)
wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Are you sure it is not a link to a non-existent file instead of
>an actual file ( try 'ls -l |grep shutdown' ). The other thing that
>could stump beginners is that root doesn't have the current directory
>in its path by default ( i.e. you run an executable in the current directory
>by saying './shutdown' instead of just 'shutdown') Usually root would
>have '/sbin' in the path but if you get into the root account by just
>doing 'su' you will retain all the settings or the orginal user you logged
>in as... and oridinary users usually don't have /sbin in their paths.
>The thing to do is 'su -' that changes all the settings to those
>of the root user.
>
I did actually try ./shutdown and it still claimed that the file or
directory did not exist.
>
> hmmm... this sounds strange. Even if you shut down badly, all
>it should do is an fsck at boot... and that might be the source of
> gripe about the filesystem... but in my experience its very
>rare to damage the file system irrepairably this way...
> What exactly is the message shown...
>
That is about what I expected to happen but no joy. What exactly it
says is "unable to start console" and stops dead in its tracks,
requiring a system reset.
>: What is the deal here? It took six months and three separate
>: workarounds just to get Linux installed
>
> WOW!!! I know it can be a little hard to configure linux just the
>way you want... but SIX MONTHS... what distro are you using... are you
>using exotic hardware of some kind ( and that should not hinder *installation*
Well, to be honest, it IS somewhat exotic hardware but I didn't know
that when I bought it. Shortly before getting Linux (Red Hat 5.1), I
bought a new and larger hard drive and thought it would be clever to
devote the old hard drive to Linux with a dual boot config. My
motherboard didn't support a drive as large as my new one (13 GB) so I
also bought a Promise UDMA controller to stick in a PCI slot.
Apparently, anything on the Promise controller hides from that
particular Linux distribution. The only method I had for
experimentation was to plug the old drive into the motherboard, try
something, swap to the Promise, fail, and try again. Pretty time
consuming to muck about with the hardware in addition to repeated
recompilations of the kernal as I tried various things and so most of
that 6 mos. was spent doing other things and waiting for a day off to
roll by. There are some Promise workarounds on the web but they appear
to be incomplete. I did eventually figure it out but it wasn't easy.
> Wait... I just went to dejanews and searched for your old postings..
>(frightening.. is't it) you are using the promise card. Yes... that
>is an unsupported or only recently supported card with linux at the
>moment. That would explain the difficulty...
>
>
I suppose I should read before replying.
Well, it would be frightening except I don't put anything in a
newsgroup that I wouldn't hang in my front window.
> well.., my experience has been that linux is harder to get started with
>initially as compared to windows but once you get it working it
>to your satisaction (and learn some of its tricks).... its a pleasure..
> in other words, it has a steeper learning curve but once you climb it,
> you end up at a higher plateau of experience. Apparently you have not
>been able to get there yet...
>
Not yet. Part of the reason I bought it, though, was to learn these
things. Frustrating, but I much better now.
Thanks for the advice. That's one of the nicer things about Linux.
pjcamp
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Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 21:09:52 +0800
From: ahwan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problem with Creative Graphics Blaster Exxtreme card Help!!
I have recently brought a Creative Graphics Blaster Exxtreme card with
4Mbyte video ram chip type: Permedia 2 rev 1 DAC type: P2RD. But I have
proble using the Xconfigurator. My monitor is Mag XJ700T, 17" inche.
When I run the Autoprobe the monitor just switch off. Please help !!!
What configuration should I use ?
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From: Benoit PLESSIS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: DMA
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 14:27:17 +0100
Chris Leahy wrote:
>
> I have an ASUS P5A-B motherboard with the Ali 1541 AGP chip and Ali 1543
> super I/O controller chip.
I've got the same chip as yours and he made me the same messages.
I hadn't found any solution exept for waiting Linus to finish his work
on the chip (He has annouced I 'll work for support this chipset after
finishing the 2.2.0 kernel, we are at the 2.2.1 so ...)
Benoit PLESSIS
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Willett LADS LDN X7563)
Subject: Re: Linux/KDE/Netscape PAGING immensly
Date: 1 Feb 1999 13:30:14 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Kaustav Bhattacharya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>I have 128MB RAM, no swap partition, Red Hat 5.2, KDE 1.1pre2 and
>Netscape Com 4.5 installed. All loaded up and running. I open 6 NS4.5
>windows, all browsing. Linux starts to page and grind as if all hell
>has broken lose, so much so that I cannot even open a term to do a top
>and see what's slowing things down. What could have gone wrong? I
>later rebooted and loaded NS4.5 and did a top. 22% mem??? Is that
>wrong!?!? 22% of RAM taken out on a 128MB RAM PC? Something must be
>rather wrong here, or is that normal? Was not creating a swap a bad
>idea? Surely with 128MB you don't need a swap? Or do you? hhmmmm...
>think I'm heading for my 6th linux reinstall in two weeks. I've seen
>people with a mere 32MB RAM, a P166 run RH5.2/KDE1.1pre2 and NS4.5 just
>fine and their system we blazing along with several other apps loaded..
>maybe I need to actually compile my own Qt or GTK+ instead of using
>pre-compiled binaries... jesus, learning how to compile, tar, recompile
>kernel and partition and what-not in two weeks just to run Linux...
>definitely an education.... might not recommend linux to the old
>Granddad for a while :-P
>
I've had Netscape 4.5 hang X (or at least grind the machine to a halt).
Try Netscape 4.? instead.
Try pressing Alt-F5 or Alt-F6 to flip back out of X and check the
CPU.
For what you're running I'd say 128Mb is ok.
Id assume Linux + KDE + Netscape = 32Mb
Mike
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Lodge)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: repartitioning win98 drive
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 13:33:13 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>can i use fips to repartition a win98 hard drive, or do i have to use
>something like partition magic? thanks...
FIPS2.0 will work fine (it has FAT32 support)
===================================================================
#include<disclaimer.h> Opinions are mine and not those of my company
David Lodge,
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://public.logica.com/~lodged
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From: "Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 00:38:38 +1100
G'day...
> Great wine (we send seedlings *back* to France when they had a blight),
> though Chile, Australia and South Africa are catching up quickly...
*LOL* Australia wines catching up with Californian... You really need to
take a look at the internation wine awards listings much more...
Ciao...
Michael.
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From: Stephen So <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 23:45:51 +1000
> >I *like* knowing that in addition to Linux there's FreeBSD and other BSD
> >variants, OS/2, PIOS, BeOS, MacOS, AmigaOS, Solaris, Irix, HP-UX, OSF/1
OS/2, BeOS, Mac OS, and Amiga OS are not BSD variants. They are not even
remotely related to UNIX. I think Solaris, Irix,
and HP-UX are more based on System V than BSD but I'm not sure.
Steve.
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From: bori7 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Login ?
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 08:53:53 -0500
I installed RH 5.2 for first time and when I reboot my computer,
a Lunix asking my login and password.
I know my password, but login ?
I newer create it.
Boris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 13:50:15 +0100
From: Fabrizio Albonico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> iBoy wrote:
>
> Hello all ppl of this Linux newsgroup!!!!!
> I need some of your HELP!
> u see, i'm interested about LINUX and want to get it and use it
> can anyone help me??????????
>
> please reply A.S.A.P.
> Thanks!
>
> PS: I'm using Windoze 98 with Pentium II
Your computer complies with Linux minimum requirements :-) so go and buy a
commercial distribution or download one from the closest mirror you can find.
And if you're really interested go and get a good book about Linux, as without
it you'd spend so much time online that noone is willing to pay for... ;-)
- Fabrizio
P.S: I noticed the apologize post. It's ok for this time, but be careful in the
future.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (K.C. Adams)
Subject: A Precise Definition of "Windows 95
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 14:09:04 GMT
> A Precise Definition of "Windows 95"
> Windows 95(n) - 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch
> to an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor,
> written by a 2-bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition.
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From: "Alexandre Maret" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: more than 16 SCSI disks ?
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 13:55:47 +0100
hello
I've just added 3 new disks to my system. It now correctly detects
17 SCSI disks, on 3 ncr53c810. My problem has to do with the
SCSI devices numbering scheme. It currently allows space for 16
disks containing 16 partitions. The question is, is there an easy way
to access my 17th disk ?
kernel version is 2.0.x... may upgrade to 2.2.x if needed...
thanks in advance
alex
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From: Mark Stolz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 15:18:32 +0000
"Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus" wrote:
>
> G'day...
>
> > Great wine (we send seedlings *back* to France when they had a blight),
> > though Chile, Australia and South Africa are catching up quickly...
>
> *LOL* Australia wines catching up with Californian... You really need to
> take a look at the internation wine awards listings much more...
>
> Ciao...
>
> Michael.
Aww, I was just trying to be humble. But since you insist, California
r0cks, everywhere else sucks! ;)
Actually, I have had Australian wine that compared *very* favorably
with California wine -- had a nice bottle of can't-remember-what for
Christmas dinner. Of course, I'm not an expert...
--Mark
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From: gus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: info
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 14:21:52 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Here is a dumb question from a person who thinks he's beyond newbie ....
;-)
I have been a linux for a number of years now, and am embarrassed to
admit that I have never found the "info" pages. Regularly I encounter
".... man page is no longer maintained, see the info pages for ..."
I have always been satisfied with man ...xxxx..., but I should know.
So, will someone please enlighten me?
Thanks
gus
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ralez Armon)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 14:01:09 GMT
High, I'm Ralez.
Regarding the line:
>> > are. If every one was as smart as I am (IQ == 153) they'd be using
I was just wondering if that IQ was taken from the Internet,
which I find VERY likely. People often brag about their IQ being real
high when they take those tests on the Internet. Well, even if you
obey all of the instructions that you get, it doesn't mean much.
I took one of those tests and I got 184, which is needless to say
rather unlikely, at least for a man like me. ;)
To get your real IQ, you must take a test that is made by
psychologists, and you cannot take it from the Internet. Simply the
fact that it's all done in a computer eliminates the possibility of
some aspects of the test. Just the environment fucks up the test
results, let alone the technical aspects.
I myself have once gone to a real IQ test, and it says I'm a 130,
which I think is quite believable, and that claim of the Internet test
that I have 184 is absolutely ridiculous.
Also, the claim of you, dear 153-gentleman, that you have 153, does
not show from your comment. :) I apologize if I have offended you, but
you simply cannot anounce that if everybody were so clever, they'd be
using Linux. You forget the fact the most people that use computers
(whether we like this or not) use it for elementary things Like word
processing, calculating stuff and very often to do things that must
even have specialized versions of all kinds of software.
Simply installing the Linux operating system is tough enough for such
a user, which should cover about 80% of the computer industry, and
learning how to use Linux and operating it is simply far too much
trouble for anyone to use that simply wants his job done without
having to learn every aspect of an entire OS.
I use WindowsNT, Linux and MacOS. I'm a very experienced computer and
I really, REALLY know what I'm talking about. My most favourite is
MacOS. HOLD IT! Let me finish before you jump on me, but nevermind,
you probably already stopped reading this. People are far too
pre-judgemental on that wonderful operating system. It's nothing for
computer nerds like most people on this newsgroup to like, but when
you simply have to get a job done, use MacOS. If you like ripping your
OS apart and putting it all together like I do, use Linux. ;) That's
my definition. Linux is NOT an operating system meant for the public,
and MacOS is an operating system for the public, and all of those who
want to do non-computer-related stuff easily, quickly and effeciently.
I mean, how on Earth do you think Apple has survived for so long? ;)
They hold on to their customers! Once a Mac-fan, always a Mac-fan. You
can almost say the same about Linux though. I will not even discuss
Windows in relevancy to this.
So please, stop referring to your IQ when distinguishing between the
socalled "best operating systems". There is no best operating system.
Windows, even WindowsNT is a complete waste of time and money, that's
pretty obvious, but then again, Windows barely passes for the
definition of an operating system. (Win95/98 truly and literaly don't
pass for the definition of an OS.)
On Wed, 27 Jan 1999 19:01:58 +0000, David Taylor
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Anatoly Podgoretsky wrote:
>>
>> > As far as demand goes, demand comes from people being as stupid as you
>> > are. If every one was as smart as I am (IQ == 153) they'd be using
>> > Linux.
>>
>> If you are such clever why you are such poor
>>
>> --
>> Sincerelly yours
>> Anatoly Podgoretsky
>
>Cause the world doesn't work on Wages = IQ.
>
>If it did, Bill Gates would be lucky to be in credit.
>
>--
>David Taylor
>E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>ICQ: 268004
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: repartitioning win98 drive
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 12:39:07 GMT
can i use fips to repartition a win98 hard drive, or do i have to use
something like partition magic? thanks...
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