Linux-Misc Digest #871, Volume #19 Fri, 16 Apr 99 21:13:14 EDT
Contents:
Re: HELP! /usr directory lost!!! (Tina)
Problem compiling SSH-1.2.26 under Redhat Starbuck release 5.9.7... ("tester")
How to do secure X11: NT Workstation SP4 (SecureCRT v2.4, Exceed v6.1), Redhat Linux
5.9.7 [Starbuck]: SSHD v1.2.26 ("tester")
Re: Able to access CDROM in root but not is user (Lloyd Weehuizen)
Re: Netscape can't send long newsgroup postings ("Gero H. Marten")
Re: HELP! /usr directory lost!!! (Frank Paprosky)
Re: Mail server for Linux (Brian McCauley)
Re: IDE and Guides under Linux (David M. Cook)
Re: Redhat kernel tool? (brian moore)
top: CPU States: 119% (Jason McKnight)
Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the Linux-equivalents
for these Windoze programs? (brian moore)
Re: VMware sell-out to Microsoft??? (brian moore)
Re: Who deleted directory? (Edward Vigmond)
Re: PS (Jeremy C. Reed)
Re: VMWare speed (Alan Fried)
Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment.... ("Jan Johansson")
Re: FTP or telnet scripting? (marek jedlinski)
Posting to Newsgroups / Sending Email (Steve D. Perkins)
Re: VMware sell-out to Microsoft??? ("Edwin E. Thorne")
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From: Tina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HELP! /usr directory lost!!!
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 21:02:55 +0200
> screwed up big time. .
<--snip--snip--bigsnip-->
> And am tempted to just deal with windows. Any suggestions on some good trouble
> shooting books about Linux?
>
> Once again, thanks for the help!!
Hi,
We've all been there. At least those of us who made a step from Windows to
Linux. My personal advice is "just" to reinstall linux. Start fresh.
And remember 'till next time; never sit logged in as root. When you need
the rootpermissions; simply use su. It's much safer that way.
Regarding books; hmmm - one thought that strikes me is that LDP is
extremely good reading. (http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP/)
Good paperbooks; perhaps Using Linux from QUE.
One last thing, don't give up on linux; you'll get there!
Tina
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Homepage: [http://www8.tripnet.se/~chjo/]
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From: "tester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problem compiling SSH-1.2.26 under Redhat Starbuck release 5.9.7...
Crossposted-To: comp.security.ssh,linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.networking
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 19:15:59 GMT
I get an error in login.c... Anyone know how to fix this?
========
gcc -pipe -c -I. -I./gmp-2.0.2-ssh-2 -I./zlib-1.0.4 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H
-DHOST_KEY_FILE=\"/etc/ssh_host_key\"
-DHOST_CONFIG_FILE=\"/etc/ssh_config\"
-DSERVER_CONFIG_FILE=\"/etc/sshd_config\"
-DSSH_PROGRAM=\"/usr/local/bin/ssh1\" -DETCDIR=\"/etc\"
-DPIDDIR=\"/var/run\" -DSSH_BINDIR=\"/usr/local/bin\"
-DTIS_MAP_FILE=\"/etc/sshd_tis.map\" -g -O2 -I/usr/X11R6/include login.c
login.c: In function `record_login':
login.c:437: structure has no member named `ut_syslen'
login.c:441: structure has no member named `e_termination'
login.c:442: structure has no member named `e_exit'
login.c:454: `WTMPX_FILE' undeclared (first use in this function)
login.c:454: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
login.c:454: for each function it appears in.)
make: *** [login.o] Error 1
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From: "tester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to do secure X11: NT Workstation SP4 (SecureCRT v2.4, Exceed v6.1),
Redhat Linux 5.9.7 [Starbuck]: SSHD v1.2.26
Crossposted-To:
comp.security.ssh,linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.x
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 19:16:45 GMT
Topic sums up the configuration..
I SSH (3DES encryption) into the Linux box with SecureCRT 2.4b1, and export
DISPLAY to my NT Workstation.
Now do I make X11 *secure*?
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From: Lloyd Weehuizen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Able to access CDROM in root but not is user
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 20:48:35 +1200
On Fri, 16 Apr 1999, Chas Samuels wrote:
> The cdrom file in the /dev directory reads out lrwxrwxrwx so it would seem
>that the user should be able to execute it. I may be confused with some of
>the Linux lingo and perhaps what I'm looking at but I'm new at this and we all
>gotta learn if we're gonna use this booger.
Well the /dev/cdrom file isn't actually a device, it's a LINK, which mean, when
somebody tries to access the /dev/cdrom file, the kernel actually accesses what
the link points to, links always have all the permissions, but that doesn't
make any difference you have to check the file the link points to. So do a
"ls -l /dev/cdrom" and you should see where the link points to for example:
delirious:~$ ls -l /dev/cdrom
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 Jan 4 09:35 /dev/cdrom -> /dev/hdd
as you can see it points to /dev/hdd, so check your permissions on that device..
>So, any help you could give me to resolve this problem would be appreciated.
>And, I thank you in advance.
Lloyd
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From: "Gero H. Marten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape can't send long newsgroup postings
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 19:30:10 +0200
"Steve D. Perkins" wrote:
> Has anyone else noticed this problem? I can only get
> newsgroup postings to go through (no matter which server they're going
> through) when they are only a few lines long. Anything longer than
> that, and Netscape just hangs (doesn't lock up, but sits there until I
> cancel the send). I'd explain in more detail... but I'm about to hit
> the limit!
It surely shouldn't be a problem of NS, but rather either your local
newsserver or your ISP.
--
Gero H. Marten
<http://www.provi.de/gmarten/index.html>
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From: Frank Paprosky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HELP! /usr directory lost!!!
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 18:56:40 GMT
> I have no idea what I could have possibly done! Would I be better off
> uninstalling ---> Yeap
> Linux (stupid question?), or can I simply recreate a /usr directory from the
> CD? ---> Nope
>
To screed up a big directory has /usr you must have used the "rm -r"
command !
the /usr directory is a huge directory it contains the kernel sources, X, many
utiltiies in /usr/bin & /usr/sbin.
With the boot & root disk you could possibly re-installl the packages needed.
Bests regards, Frank
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From: Brian McCauley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Mail server for Linux
Date: 16 Apr 1999 20:03:26 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Luca Filipozzi) writes:
> sendmail is probably the hardest of the mail servers to set up.
> consider smail or qmail
As a sendmail->smail convert I can't comment on qmail but I think the
wealth of documentation available on sendmail means that in complex
situations it's actually easier to set up than smail.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David M. Cook)
Subject: Re: IDE and Guides under Linux
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 20:06:44 GMT
On Fri, 16 Apr 1999 13:07:47 +0100, Darren Priestnall
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am however looking at doing some development work in my spare time
>with the Linux OS but I'm not sure which IDE's and developer tools are
>recommended or worth trying.
I have a listing of some at http://members.home.com/davecook/devel/
>I hear DDD is a good UNIX debugger which I hope to try and compare to
>SoftIce.
SoftIce is a kernel debugger.
>I also hear Code Forge is a good IDE although I'm not sure if it is the
>best available.
I don't see any reason to buy anything. Everything you need comes with
Linux.
>Of course, I'm also in need of some documentation for programming the
>Linux OS and would also like some guides relating to programming the X
>environment.
I suggest looking into toolkits like Gtk or Qt.
http://www.gtk.org
http://www.troll.no
Dave Cook
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: Redhat kernel tool?
Date: 17 Apr 1999 00:23:55 GMT
On 16 Apr 1999 15:12:56 PDT,
Matt O'Toole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I need to get sound support into my Mandrake installation. I know there was
> a GUI tool from Redhat for compiling the kernel, as I've used it before, in
> a previous Redhat setup. It's probably installed in my system, which is
> Redhat based, and has other Redhat apps hiding in there. But, I can't
> remember what that program was called... Anyone?
Nope, it's not from Redhat, it's part of the kernel:
cd /usr/src/linux
make xconfig
--
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Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | a cockroach, except that the cockroach
Usenet Vandal | is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
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From: Jason McKnight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: top: CPU States: 119%
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 16:05:07 -0400
I have a dual processor system and was compiling some software the other
day when I noticed the above message from top. (Kernel 2.2.5- SMP
enabled)
Does that mean:
Top is not calculating CPU usage correctly
or
Linux uses the 1st processor until it is at 100% capacity (i doubt that)
or
My percentage will go to 200% since I have two processors.
Any help on this will be greatly appreciated,
Jason McKnight
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the
Linux-equivalents for these Windoze programs?
Date: 16 Apr 1999 20:10:40 GMT
On 16 Apr 1999 14:10:58 -0500,
James Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> When my significant other started using the computer, she had no clues
> about everyting, and since I use vi a lot, I taught her vi on a unix
> machine. Since then, she uses the vi as her editor, and even on
> windows machines, we still use the vi (elvis).
>
> When recently she had to use the macintosh, she started screaming at
> me. What happened to the ESC, the i (insert), the o(open line) key?
>
> vi BECAME intuitive to her. Mouse keys aren't. After a few weeks,
> these complaints have died down. Granted, she still occasionaly uses
> the ESC key, etc on the mac, but she is slowly getting used to it.
That is an example of one of the key flaws in the "Unix is hard to use"
arguments. It is certainly hard to learn if you are coming from a
Windows backgrounds: the terminology of Microsoft gets in the way, the
'troubleshooting' methods of Windows get in the way ("just reboot!") and
the big question is "why does it not work the same way as Windows?"
If you start with a blank slate user (and there are really a lot of
them), it's not much more difficult to set them up on Linux and they'll
be able to be at least as productive on Linux as on other systems.
Tell your significant other there are versions of vi for MacOS. :)
--
Brian Moore | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | a cockroach, except that the cockroach
Usenet Vandal | is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: VMware sell-out to Microsoft???
Date: 17 Apr 1999 00:33:02 GMT
[followups set properly]
On Fri, 16 Apr 1999 17:06:57 -0500,
Edwin E. Thorne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Geoff McCaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:7f89el$rek$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Edwin E. Thorne ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > >
> > > Do you know of anyone who has walked completely away from Windows on
> other
> > > than a server or a home machine?
> >
> > Yep, my main work machine runs Linux, and my home and server machines as
> > well.
>
> What kind of work do you do on your computer?
I run an ISP with several thousand customers. (Which involves
doing everything from email, programming, network monitoring, paging,
Usenet, sftw for news, writing documentation and web pages, etc.)
It also maintains a database of the status of every user that has ever
signed up and their account status so I can do some reports based on
that. (That database is automatically updated as users sign up.)
At the moment it's also doing double-duty running a test set up as a
controller for MCNS cable modems, since I don't have a spare machine for
that yet.
> > > Can you really give up the vast amount
> > > of Windows software?
> >
> > Easily. I use the vast amount of Linux software.
>
> There's a vast amount of Linux software? The same amount as Windows has,
> and of the same quality?
There is a vast amount of Linux software. Probably as much as Windows
has, and of better quality. (We don't have silly $10 shareware programs
to fix improper MTU settings, I guess, but, then, we don't need them.)
--
Brian Moore | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | a cockroach, except that the cockroach
Usenet Vandal | is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
Netscum, Bane of Elves. Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster
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From: Edward Vigmond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Who deleted directory?
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 19:56:04 GMT
jason wrote:
>
> Jason McKnight wrote:
> >
> > Is there a way for me to tell who deleted a directory?
>
> Just a thought... maybe you can write a 'wrapper script' for rmdir, that logs
> the user who invokes it (via 'whoami') and the directory being deleted to a
> file in /var/log/delete.log (or whatever), then calls the appropriate rmdir
> command, which you have renamed to something else (preferably obscure, if you
> don't want users to immediately know you're doing this). Also, make the script
> executable by all, but readable only by root, if you don't want others to know
> the 'real' rmdir command. This isn't really foolproof, but it should do the job.
You'll have to write a wrapper for rm as well since rm -r removes
directories.
--
Ed Vigmond
Institut de Genie Biomedical, Universite de Montreal
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeremy C. Reed)
Subject: Re: PS
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 20:39:39 GMT
try: ps auwx
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello all,
>
>how can I list all the processes on the system, including all the
>demons?
>
>10x
>Dan
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alan Fried)
Subject: Re: VMWare speed
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 00:36:22 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve D. Perkins) wrote:
>>It works quite well, give it a try. The only reason I stopped using it
>>was because I didn't want to become dependant on it and then find that
>>the license stops being free.
>
> Yeah, that was the biggest reason for me taking it off as
>well. I took a look at the price they plan to offer it for, and
>laughed. If you actually NEED this product, you'd be better off
>(cost-effective wise) just buying a low-end seperate computer to run
>Windows on.
>
>Steve
>
I agree with you and posted it to one of their gurus but they contend
that on April 22nd, they are coming out with a new super release.
Well I plan to give them their day in court but as it stands now,
$300 is an outrageous price for this software and right now it is
interesting and I feel they have a long way to go before they get
to their target date of mid May to make it commercially available.
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From: "Jan Johansson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment....
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 08:37:41 +0200
>Really? Why would they want it to be impossible to save your password
>unless a particular protocol was in place? It makes llittle sense to
>me... the dial up networking has nothing to do with the network
>protocol that it uses. Please explain this to me!
A "client" is not a "protocol" also, the MS Client for networks operates on
ALL carrier protocols.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (marek jedlinski)
Subject: Re: FTP or telnet scripting?
Date: 16 Apr 1999 21:10:03 GMT
On 14 Apr 1999 01:48:11 GMT, Jim Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> autoexpect should fit the bill, man autoexpect for details.
Actually, it's very impressive. I didn't even know I had it :)
Thanks a lot!
.marek
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve D. Perkins)
Subject: Posting to Newsgroups / Sending Email
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 21:16:43 GMT
I have been having the annoying problem recently of not being
able to post to newgroups from home anything that is longer than a
couple of lines. Any posting beyond that, and the program just sits
there infinately until I cancel the send. This is happening with all
of the newsreader applications that I have, and with all of the news
servers that I can get groups from.
I suppose that the problem has to be somewhere in the OS
itself (I've even tried different ISP's)... but I have no idea where.
I do know that I've never been able to use "localhost" as the
SMTP server to send email when I'm dialed in to an ISP... about half
of the messages that I try to send with my own machine as the SMTP
server never leave my machine. They sit in a queue for about five
days and are then passed to my "root" mailbox. Once in a blue moon I
have these same kinds of problems sending regular email as well...
even though I am now using the ISP's settings for SMTP.
I wonder if there is some kind of processes or daemons
internal to Linux that might be interfering with emails and postings
going through to outside SMTP and NNTP servers? Do I need to disable
sendmail or anything else somehow?
Steve
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From: "Edwin E. Thorne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: VMware sell-out to Microsoft???
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 17:06:57 -0500
Geoff McCaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7f89el$rek$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Edwin E. Thorne ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >
> > Do you know of anyone who has walked completely away from Windows on
other
> > than a server or a home machine?
>
> Yep, my main work machine runs Linux, and my home and server machines as
> well.
What kind of work do you do on your computer?
> > Can you really give up the vast amount
> > of Windows software?
>
> Easily. I use the vast amount of Linux software.
There's a vast amount of Linux software? The same amount as Windows has,
and of the same quality?
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