Linux-Misc Digest #871, Volume #27 Wed, 16 May 01 02:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: Netscape in black and white (John Wingate)
A CPU cooler for Linux? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Problem compiling Ed-0.2 (Ash666)
I got a wee problem. ("japhilp")
Re: FTP question (Dances With Crows)
Re: open ports (Frank Ranner)
Re: C-Kermit 7.1 Final Beta Test ("bowman")
Running processes in the background. ("Joel")
Re: No DNS with DHCP sometimes ("grendel")
Partition Sizes ("Shawn D. Kelly")
mozilla 0.9 on RH linux 7.1 locks up trying to run java (James Rago)
Re: RPM: listing package sizes (Christian Rose)
Re: Linux X goes away??? (Andrew Purugganan)
Re: script to run telnet ("nickwang")
Re: Running processes in the background. (Paul Kimoto)
Re: Linux in college & high school ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
networking problems; hosts not found; problems with aliases (Faheem Mitha)
Re: Automatic Login to Console (Peter Hollenbeck)
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From: John Wingate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape in black and white
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 03:13:31 GMT
David Nowak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On my Debian GNU/Linux 2.2, all icons in Netscape 4.75 are in black and
> white! What should I install to have coloured icons?
Do you mean the buttons in the toolbars? For me they are in black and
white if I use 24-bit color (as I normally do), and in color if I use
16-bit color. It's just another Netscape annoyance. If it really
bothers you, complain to Netscape. (I have RH 6.2, XFree86-SVGA-3.3.6,
Netscape 4.76.)
--
John Wingate Language serves three functions. One is to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] communicate ideas, one is to conceal ideas, and
the third is to conceal the absence of ideas.
--Otto Jespersen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: A CPU cooler for Linux?
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 03:16:06 GMT
I noticed that my Windows with Waterfall Pro (CPU cooler software) keeps
the CPU temperature low. In Linux, it is higher. I thought Linux had a
CPU cooler code. Did I miss something? I am a Linux newbie, so hopefully
I don't have to recompile Kernel :). I am using RedHat Linux v7.1. I
look forward to receiving replies soon. Thanks!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ash666)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Problem compiling Ed-0.2
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 10:39:53 GMT
On Mon, 14 May 2001 17:34:43 +0100, "Michael Pye"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Apparently vi -e works the same as ed. I might just forget it and create a
>simlink to vi emulating ed.
>
>Annoying thing is, I get a different error each time. Once it even compiled
>correctly, but I wasn't in the chrooted environment so it was build against
>the wrong libraries. Never got it to work again though...
Are you sure it isn't compiling anyway when you get the error? I just
did an LFS system, and gcc complains with ed about using mktemp()
instead of mkstemp() (IIRC), and I don't think it spit it out as
either an error or a warning. It still compiled fine, though.
>"Peet Grobler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:3aff7f80$0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Strange enough... I build a Linux from Scratch this weekend as well. Got
>the
>> same problem, though I cannot remember the exact messages. I continued to
>> install the other software, and the machine is now completely installed,
>> except for ed. I've tried installing it now, once the machine is fully
>> installed, but no luck, same problem.
>>
>> Maybe, if you have the exact make error messages, you should post them to
>a
>> forum on www.linuxfromscratch.org, or open a bug report for it, or
>> something.
>>
>> Please let me know what you do, since I need to get this resolved as well.
>>
>> Michael Pye wrote in message ...
>> >I'm building a Linux from Scratch system and I am receiving an error
>about
>> a
>> >function being defined twice while making Ed-0.2
>> >
>> >I have tried the copy from both the LFS site and the GNU site, but
>neither
>> >will compile. I am using the latest versions of both gcc and the glibc
>> >(2.95.3 and 2.2.2). I can't find any patches like the one used to solve a
>> >similar problem in the findutils-4.1 package.
>> >
>> >Has anyone else come across this or a way around it?
>> >
>> >Thanks
>> >
>> >MP
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
--
Mr. Gus
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From: "japhilp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: I got a wee problem.
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 03:32:34 GMT
This eventing I got into Linux and "startx"ed.
It said that libXmu.so was missing.Odd.. Just yesterday everyting was
running fine..
I went hunting for it.
not in /lib
not in /usr/lib
not in /usr/X11R6/lib (!)
What the...??
/usr/X11R6/lib is not a directory.
It's date is back to 1969.
and the ugo fields are all "-".
Now how the hell did that happen ??
A bit of data:
Kernel 2.2.17, with ide and ide-scsi emulation ( for a LG cdrw )
XFree86 4.0.1 and nvidia 0.95 drivers.
I guess I'll have to reinstall X.That's no biggie, but just what in penguin
land could have caused that ??
As I recall, I had a spate of crashes with PAN last night, while getting
article headers from our local sympatico news server ( Those servers are not
exactly epitomes of stability) . It would say " Pan crashed. Would you like
to submit a bug report" or something...
Well at the time, I was able to kill and start X with no problems.
I wonder what happend.
Fsck found a lot of entries that were unused. I ran it with the -y flag,
after the fifth prompt.
Since I can get in and out at run level 3 ( I've never bothered with 5,
this being a single user machine ), I am not worried. a re-install of X
should fix things. But just wondering what could have caused it.
Note that I am using a AMD750 chipset, and I do not have a via 686b
controller.The hard disk is a maxtor 27GB disk ( yeah, odd number..) ata-66
capable disk.
Thing's being blazing away under win98 as well while playing games.
At this point, I also have another pristine 20 gig hdd to move to , if this
turns out to be the disk.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: FTP question
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 16 May 2001 03:47:17 GMT
On Wed, 16 May 2001 01:58:16 GMT, Lou Lipnickey staggered into the Black
Sun and said:
>I am trying to get started with Mandrake and I need to FTP all the
>file/directories. Is there a way with the Win98 "FTP" command to
>transfer all the child directories and their files? I am doing :
>
>bin
>prompt
>mget *
>
>Its just getting the files, not the directories. Thanks in advance
Try a better client, such as WS_FTP, or find a local Linux-using friend
with a CD-R, or contact your local Linux Users Group, or go down to the
local software store and buy a boxed set, or visit
http://cheapbytes.com/ , or make a Linux boot disk by downloading
RAWRITE.EXE and a 1.4M floppy image and then install Mandrake via FTP
(warning: best done with a > 384kbit/sec Net drop.)
There are many ways of getting a complete distro on your machine; FTPing
individual files and saving them to the local hard disk is among the
most painful. If this is your first time, do yourself a favor and buy a
boxed set or obtain a reasonably experienced Linux user's personal
assistance.
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
=============================/ I hit a seg fault....
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From: Frank Ranner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: open ports
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 13:49:56 +1000
Claus Atzenbeck wrote:
>
> Frank Ranner wrote on Dienstag, 15. Mai 2001 03:51:
>
> Thanks a lot for your help!
>
> > required. In any
> > case you should look at blocking those ports from the Internet. Use one
> > of the Internet based
> > scanner web sites to scan you from 'out there' to see if your ports are
> > visible. If so, look
> > into one of the many tutorials on locking down your system.
>
> Do you have the URL of such a service and/or a good tutorial?
>
> Claus
Right here. There is lots of information at that site as well as a
scanning
service.
http://www.sdesign.com/securitytest/index.html
Frank
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From: "bowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: C-Kermit 7.1 Final Beta Test
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 21:49:57 -0600
"Frank da Cruz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9ds4d8$dst$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> C-Kermit (if you don't know) is portable communications software offering
> serial (direct and dialed) and network communications, including terminal
> connections, file transfer, character-set conversion, and full automation
> through its built-in command and scripting language, for all known UNIX
> versions, new and old, plus several other operating-system families:
Ah, Kermit, I remember when you were a slender, fast young frog......
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From: "Joel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Running processes in the background.
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 22:48:55 -0500
Hi. I know that you can run run a program in the background by appending
the '&' symbol to the command like:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~# rpm -i /mnt/cdrom/RedHat/RPMS/somerpmfile.rpm &
But suppose I forget to add the & to the end, is there a keystroke that I
can press that will send the process to the background, and bring the
command prompt back up? Also, if there is where does the output go? Thanks
in advance.
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From: "grendel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.suse,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: No DNS with DHCP sometimes
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 03:44:29 GMT
I'll try it. Thanks.
"Dean Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> Hi!,
>
> > I do not run a DHCP server. I am a client not a server. I can not put in
> > the server in debug mode since it's sitting at my ISP.
>
> But of course you could put your dhcp client into debug mode couldn't you
?
>
> See ya
>
> Dean Thompson
>
> --
>
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From: "Shawn D. Kelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Partition Sizes
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 04:20:05 GMT
I have an ABit VP6 with dual PIII 800EB's, 512MB RAM, (2) 30GB IBM DeskStar
ATA /100 7200RPM hard drives (currently in RAID 0 for W2K, but will have to
change that since the HPT370 RAID is not supported). I am prepared to use
Mandrake 8.0 download.
Ideas being taken on partition sizes... both for main Linux partition and
Swap partition. I don't want to make them something utterly ridiculous that
will just waste my space, but I want to leave room for growth. Just for
reference, my W2K partition is now 11 gigs of 15 full - and that DOES NOT
include any multimedia - it's all applications.
What does everyone use??? (only a few need respond... we don't need a huge
thread out of this :)
Thanks again.
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From: James Rago <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: mozilla 0.9 on RH linux 7.1 locks up trying to run java
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 04:22:14 GMT
Hello.
I am running Red Hat linux 7.1 and I just downloaded and installed
mozilla 0.9 . This seems to work fine. I downloaded the jre.xpi and
installed that. I put a symlink in the plugins directory for the
libjavaplugin_oji.so file and pointed JAVA_HOME at the java2 directory.
When I go to a website that requires the java plugin, mozilla locks up
and freezes. I have to kill the process to clean it up. Does anyone have
any ideas on what might be causing this or how I might be able to debug
this a bit to find out if it is something I have neglected in the setup?
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks,
jim rago
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From: Christian Rose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RPM: listing package sizes
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 03:41:05 +0200
Neil Zanella wrote:
> Is it possible to use RPM to list all packages as in with rpm -qa but with
> an integer next to each package specifying the total space taken up by the
> package one installed?
rpm -qa --queryformat "%-30{NAME} %{SIZE}\n"
Tested it with rpm 4.0.2.
Christian
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.x,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Linux X goes away???
Date: 16 May 2001 03:29:08 GMT
JT ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
[ Running RH7.0. I never can be assured if Linux is going to come up in X.
[ Sometimes it does and somethings its just a blank black screen. When it
[ doesn't I have to re-install the who OS over again. Running Matrox Millenium
[ G200 8mgs ram.
at LILO you may want to enter linux 3 to put you always in console mode
(plain text terminal). Once you've signed on as root, type
startx
and see what kind of messages appear. You may want to post them here,
plus the other messages for those instances when startx comes up correctly.
Deal with graphical logins later, after you've sorted out this problem
--
jazz
Registered linux user no. 164098 +--+--+--+ Litestep user no. 386
Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
--- OUT THERE??
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From: "nickwang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: script to run telnet
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 12:56:14 +0800
And is it possible to make the program automatically login?
Like the ftp. I know that you can auto login with .netrc file.
Does the telnet have some same configuration?
"Grant Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:YyfM6.975$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Lew Pitcher wrote:
> >On Tue, 15 May 2001 19:17:26 -0000, Chad Lemmen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>I would like to create a script that will run an xterm session and
> >>then telnet to a remote Unix host. I have put an icon on my KDE desktop
> >>which brings up a xterm session when I click on it, but how can I have
> >>that also telnet automatically to the remote host?
> >
> >The command 'xterm -e telnet some.system.name' will bring up an xterm
> >and automatically run a telnet client (to 'some.system.name') in it.
>
> And if you do
>
> xterm -T some.system.name -n some.system.name -e telnet some.system.name
>
> it will put the system name in the window title. :)
>
> --
> Grant Edwards grante Yow! "DARK SHADOWS"
> at is on!! Hey, I think
> visi.com the VAMPIRE forgot his
> UMBRELLA!!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Running processes in the background.
Date: 16 May 2001 01:00:58 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <9dstms$n8e$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Joel wrote:
> Hi. I know that you can run run a program in the background by appending
> the '&' symbol to the command like:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~# rpm -i /mnt/cdrom/RedHat/RPMS/somerpmfile.rpm &
>
> But suppose I forget to add the & to the end, is there a keystroke that I
> can press that will send the process to the background, and bring the
> command prompt back up?
(In most shells ...)
If you do "control-Z", then the process will be suspended and you will be
returned to the prompt.
If you type "%" (or "%NUMBER", where NUMBER is taken from the output of the
shell builtin command "jobs"), the process will be restarted.
You can type the combination "% &" to continue the process _and_ put it in
the background ...
> Also, if there is where does the output go?
... but the output will continue to go where you told it to go in the
original command line: so if it was output to the screen, that is a
problem.
--
Paul Kimoto
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and may be a violation of international copyright law.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux in college & high school
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 01:41:32 -0400
somebody wrote:
>
> Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> stands accused of saying:
>
> >Well, MacOS X is simply Apple's version of Linux.
>
> is freebsd simply freebsd's version of Linux?
No. FreeBSD is based on the Berkely version (BSD) of Unix.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Faheem Mitha)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: networking problems; hosts not found; problems with aliases
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 05:42:12 -0000
Dear People,
I have had a persistent problem for months, with my ISP (dialup
networking). I now know the following
1)This problem is not present when running Windows with the same
ISP. So it is an OS-specific problem.
2) This problem does not appear to be ISP-specific.
I have been using intrex.net for a while now, and I have had problems
with it under Linux but not under Windows. I recently tried another
ISP under Linux, and similar problems with it. I imagine it would also
be Ok under Windows though I haven't tried.
The problems may be summarised by an example.
faheem ~>nslookup ftp.gnome.org
Server: ns1.intrex.net
Address: 209.42.192.253
Non-authoritative answer:
Name: churchill.acc.umu.se
Address: 130.239.18.141
Aliases: ftp.gnome.org, ftp.acc.umu.se
faheem ~>ping ftp.gnome.org
ping: unknown host: ftp.gnome.org
faheem ~>ping -i 300 churchill.acc.umu.se
PING churchill.acc.umu.se (130.239.18.141): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 130.239.18.141: icmp_seq=0 ttl=232 time=251.617 ms
--- churchill.acc.umu.se ping statistics ---
1 packets transmitted, 1 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 251.617/251.617/251.617 ms
As you can see, there seems to be some problems with aliases. I cannot
ping ftp.gnome.org, since it is an alias for churchill.acc.umu.se, but
I can ping churchill.acc.umu.se with no problem. Also, and not
surprisingly, I cannot connect to ftp.gnome.org with a web browser.
This may be a software related problem, but I am not sure what. I am
running what used to be SuSE 6.2, which was current around the summer
of 1999. I have upgraded quite a lot of stuff but my ping is still of
1999 vintage. I think I have upgraded ppp more recently. It is version
2.3.11.
The origin of my ping is obscure. it appears to be part of a package
called nkitb, whose author is credited as Florian La Roche.
I cannot understand why I have taken so long to follow it up. I would
greatly appreciate it if any reply could be cc'ed to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have a solution to this mystery, I don't
want to take the risk of missing it.
Sincerely, Faheem Mitha.
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 22:49:20 -0700
From: Peter Hollenbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Automatic Login to Console
LFessen106 wrote:
>
> >
> >When the system boots, how does one cause a process to automatically log
> >in to a console and run a program? I'm running Redhat 7. I now start a
> >series of programs from rc.local, but one of the programs doesn't run
> >correctly when it doesn't have a console. The system is remote and
> >unattended so I need to do this without operator intervention.
> >
> >Thanks for any help,
> >
> >Peter Hollenbeck
>
> http://thelinuxlink.net/linc/linuxcar.html should help ya out. Look at the
> bottom half of the web page... Works for me every time.
>
> -Linc Fessenden
Linc, thanks for the suggestion. I tried it but get the message: "bash:
no job control in this shell". I assume this means bash is not
configured to support job control, which I guess this login technique
requires. I have looked at bash man pages and at a reference book (A
Practical Guide to Linux) but don't find the solution. Actually the
discussion of job control doesn't seem relevant to what the script does.
Peter Hollenbeck
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