Linux-Misc Digest #902, Volume #19 Mon, 19 Apr 99 10:13:11 EDT
Contents:
Re: StarOffice on SuSE 6.0 (Roy Brewer)
Compiling Kernel (Lian PL)
New Linux user learning fast (Jon Beckett)
Re: Pulldown menus in Netscape (Jim McCusker)
Dia 3.0 - missing header file ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Problem with cxterm5.0.p3 on RedHat Linux 5.2, kernel 2.0.36 (Ng Hong I)
Re: Animated-startup logo (David Steuber)
Re: Which moron thought up the /opt directory? (David Steuber)
Re: LI problem. ("Brett McSweeney")
Re: Copying bzImage destroys floppies ("Spud")
Re: LI problem. (dagger)
Re: Windows NTDETECT ("Csaba Raduly")
Re: Building system to be a web server questions (-bill-)
Re: PPP monitoring program (Barclay Weir)
Re: Pulldown menus in Netscape (Pavel Greenfield)
Re: Compiling Kernel ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Roy Brewer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: StarOffice on SuSE 6.0
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 04:25:59 -0400
Check your registration card. You have to look carefully
Mark Detwiler wrote:
> Has anyone out there tried to install StarOffice 5.0
> on the SuSE 6.0 distribution? StarOffice 5.0 is included
> in the distribution, but the intallation requires a media key!
> Where is it found?
>
> Mark
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lian PL)
Subject: Compiling Kernel
Date: 19 Apr 1999 08:28:53 GMT
Pardon me but can someone help by giving short specific instructions on
recompiling the kernel for Redhat. email t:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon Beckett)
Subject: New Linux user learning fast
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 08:47:53 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
After spending the best part of my career using various flavours of
Microsoft operating system, I just installed Linux at home to learn
the ins and outs of it - there is method to my madness ; I'm finally
learning C++ and wanted a system that wouldn't fall over too badly if
I messed up.
I'm using SuSE Linux 5.3, and have to say so far things have gone
quite well. I've got the SuSE book, and also "Running Linux" and
"Linux in a Nutshell" by O'Reilly, and am slowly digging through them.
I can identify with the view I've seen several times on the newsgroups
that Linux is an uphill struggle for people coming from an MS
background.
Although I expect to figure out most things from the books I've got
and the howto's with the distribution, there are a couple of things
I'd like to know...
Is there a graphical editor for Fvwm2 ? I spent the best part of
yesterday evening figuring out how the config file works for it, but
it would be much easier if I had some nice tool somebody had written
to do it :-)
Thanks in advance to those who read this and reply.
Jon Beckett
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Jim McCusker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Pulldown menus in Netscape
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 23:48:31 -0400
Pavel Grinfeld wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I wondering if the following thing is configurable. The pull-down menus
> in Netscape (and, I expect, other applications) are different from (I
> would even say, worse than in) windows. In windows you get a single
> widget and you can use your keyboard to jump down, move around, etc.
> In Linux, on the other hand, you get this very tall widget which says
> "More" on the bottom and if you delect "More" than a similar widget pops
> up with its own "More" etc.
>
> The problem is that if there are very many choices (e.g.
> www.buycomp.com) then for one thing it
> takes a very long time to make a selection. Another is that you run out
> of monitor space and then it becomes a complete mess.
Yes, I've seen this, and it is pretty yucky, especially if you are
selecting from a list of countries and the US is under the U's. They
eventually pile up on each other.
> I'm assuming that it's a Motif thing...
Yes, it is. It's also a mac thing. Combo boxes (which is what is used in
windows) are about the only thing that Microsoft has actually invented
(as far as I can tell), and are pretty good, especially with scrolling
and such. Fortunatly, Netscape 5, or Mozilla, will be using GTK under
linux, which means that it will have genuine combo boxes available. It
also means that you will be able to have a themed layout, which was
pretty cool for me to experience, since I have gnome running (with the
Marble 3D theme).
> Can this feature be somehow changed?
Right now, no, not at all. I'd suggest that if it really bugs you, use
kfm and change the widget theme to Win95.
Jim
--
Jim McCusker | Class of '99, BA Computer Science & Cognitive Science
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://cif.rochester.edu/~fprefect
~Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it,
poorly.~
~~Henry
Spencer
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Dia 3.0 - missing header file
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 08:40:45 GMT
I'm trying to install dia 3.0 on red hat linux 5.2. I've installed all the
supporting libraries it asks for, but when I run 'make', "tree.h" is not
found. I've tried every tree.h I have on my system, but none of them works.
If anybody could tell me which library this particular tree.h comes from, I'd
be very grateful. The frustrating thing is that I only need to edit some dia
files, only about 5 mins work....
Thanks, Cathy.
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:45:00 +0800
From: Ng Hong I <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problem with cxterm5.0.p3 on RedHat Linux 5.2, kernel 2.0.36
Could you please help me?
I've tried very hard to solve the problem myself. I've also read
the Doc/README file in cxterm5.0.p3.tar.gz, and I've read every version of
CXTERM.FAQ available on the web through search engines. Nevertheless, I
still can't find the solution.
I'm using Redhat Linux 5.2, kernel 2.0.36. I've just successfully
installed the above version of cxterm. This is my problem:
[nghongi@compl-r6 nghongi]$ which cxterm
/usr/X11R6/bin/cxterm
[nghongi@compl-r6 nghongi]$ cxterm
at the cxterm prompt...
[nghongi@compl-r6 nghongi]$ ll myfile.txt
-rw-rw-r-- 1 nghongi nghongi 7516183 Apr 19 16:01 myfile.txt
[nghongi@compl-r6 nghongi]$ cat myfile.txt
:
: no problem here
:
after the above, I resize the window to 166x42
[nghongi@compl-r6 nghongi]$ cat myfile.txt
:
the computer system hangs
At this point, I cannot even telnet into the machine from another
machine in order to kill the job.
The system that I'm using is using a Pentium II 266MHz processor
and has 64MB of memory and 4GB of disk space allocated for Linux. The swap
space contains 133885952B, and the rest of the disk space is 3718786kB.
The machine name is Taknet, you might not have heard of it. It's a S'pore
computer company. I'm using X Window System. The following are the rest of
my system configurations:
First, Thanks in advance for your help.
Regards,
Hong I
[nghongi@compl-r6 nghongi]$ xdpyinfo ------------------------------------
name of display: :0.0
version number: 11.0
vendor string: The XFree86 Project, Inc
vendor release number: 3320
maximum request size: 4194300 bytes
motion buffer size: 256
bitmap unit, bit order, padding: 32, LSBFirst, 32
image byte order: LSBFirst
number of supported pixmap formats: 2
supported pixmap formats:
depth 1, bits_per_pixel 1, scanline_pad 32
depth 16, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32
keycode range: minimum 8, maximum 134
focus: window 0x380000d, revert to Parent
number of extensions: 19
BIG-REQUESTS
DOUBLE-BUFFER
DPMS
LBX
MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
MIT-SHM
MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD
RECORD
SECURITY
SHAPE
SYNC
XC-APPGROUP
XC-MISC
XFree86-DGA
XFree86-Misc
XFree86-VidModeExtension
XInputExtension
XKEYBOARD
XTEST
default screen number: 0
number of screens: 1
screen #0:
dimensions: 1024x768 pixels (347x260 millimeters)
resolution: 75x75 dots per inch
depths (1): 16
root window id: 0x26
depth of root window: 16 planes
number of colormaps: minimum 1, maximum 1
default colormap: 0x23
default number of colormap cells: 64
preallocated pixels: black 0, white 65535
options: backing-store YES, save-unders YES
largest cursor: 64x64
current input event mask: 0x50003d
KeyPressMask ButtonPressMask ButtonReleaseMask
EnterWindowMask LeaveWindowMask SubstructureRedirectMask
PropertyChangeMask
number of visuals: 1
default visual id: 0x22
visual:
visual id: 0x22
class: TrueColor
depth: 16 planes
available colormap entries: 64 per subfield
red, green, blue masks: 0xf800, 0x7e0, 0x1f
significant bits in color specification: 6 bits
[nghongi@compl-r6 nghongi]$ xset q -----------------------------------------
Keyboard Control:
auto repeat: on key click percent: 0 LED mask: 00000000
auto repeat delay: 500 repeat rate: 5
auto repeating keys: 00ffffffdffffbbf
fa9fffffffdffdff
7f00000000000000
0000000000000000
bell percent: 50 bell pitch: 400 bell duration: 100
Pointer Control:
acceleration: 2/1 threshold: 4
Screen Saver:
prefer blanking: yes allow exposures: yes
timeout: 600 cycle: 600
Colors:
default colormap: 0x23 BlackPixel: 0 WhitePixel: 65535
Font Path:
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ch
inese,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/chinese,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/chinese,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/chinese,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/chinese,/usr/X11R6/lib/X1
1/fonts/chinese,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/chinese,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/chinese,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/chinese,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/chinese
Bug Mode: compatibility mode is disabled
DPMS (Energy Star):
Standby: 1200 Suspend: 1800 Off: 2400
DPMS is Disabled
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From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Animated-startup logo
Date: 18 Apr 1999 20:10:20 -0400
"Mr.Freeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
-> Freeman here. Do anyone know if there is a way to make an animated startup
-> logo in linux. I really, really want to know.
Do you mean like the Windows 95 start up when the machine is turned
on, or something to run when you login?
If you mean like Windows 95, I think you would have to change init.
It wouldn't be a trivial change either. On my system, the X server is
started in run level 3 after init has run all the start scripts to get
to run level 3. At that point, a start up animation is sort of a
useless thing. I want to login :-).
Now if you are talking about an animation that plays when you log in
to an X session, put it in your ~/.profile :-)
--
David Steuber
http://www.david-steuber.com
s/trashcan/david/ to reply by mail
If you don't, I won't see it.
"But what we need to know is, do people want nasally-insertable
computers?"
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From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Which moron thought up the /opt directory?
Date: 18 Apr 1999 20:14:14 -0400
Bruce Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
-> I guess he/she was one of those morons who don't think things through,
-> just thought "My idea is good so people will just have to live with it"
It was my idea! If you don't like it, go stick it up your /opt!
--
David Steuber
http://www.david-steuber.com
s/trashcan/david/ to reply by mail
If you don't, I won't see it.
"But what we need to know is, do people want nasally-insertable
computers?"
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From: "Brett McSweeney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LI problem.
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:03:06 GMT
> I am currently installing Redhat 5.2 on a 486DX2/33, everything has
> installed fine - but when it tries to boot off the hardrive it hangs at
> where the LILO: prompt should be at LI
>
> If I boot off the install floppy and enter vmlinuz root=/dev/hda1
> read-only at the boot: prompt, it boots off the hardrive fine.
>
> Any reccomendations on how to fix this? It's only a 520mb drive (485
> extended partition, and 32mb swap) so I doubt it suffers from the
> too-many-cylenders problem.
>
> The other thing is, this machine only has 10mb of physical RAM - but this
> shouldn't be a problem?
>
For what its worth, I had the same symptom...
By mistake I had used boot=hda5 in /etc/lilo.conf
(I have Windows on the first partition).
This stopped LILO at LI as in your problem because it tried
to boot off the fifth partition rather than off the MBR.
All I had to do to fix it was delete the 5, ie use boot=hda in the
lilo.conf file.
Brett McSweeney
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From: "Spud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Copying bzImage destroys floppies
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 03:57:50 GMT
Michel wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Spud wrote:
>>
>> I am having a very strange problem with my boot floppies. I have been
>> unable to get LILO to work correctly with my 12.9 gig HD, so I use a boot
>> floppy instead, which doesn't bother me. However, I recompile my kernel
>> everytime a new one comes out, which we all know has been very
frequently.
>> Here is the problem: if I "cp /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage
>> /dev/fd0", with the floppy being my boot disk for the previous kernel
>> version, it royally screws my disk. Upon trying to boot it, i get errors
>> like:
>> Ax:D005
>> Bx:d007
>> And such, all the way down my screen, with the only way to stop it
being
>> to give it the 3-finger salute. I end up using a new disk to boot from,
>> which kinda wears down my disk supply. Especially since I get sector
errors
>> reported by RAWRITE.EXE if I try to write an image to the floppy. If
someone
>> could shed some light on this subject, I would appreciate it greatly.
>
>I haven't had any problem writing to floppies and I use kernel 2.2.6
>
>I would use disk for boot though, too damm slow. The boot manager is a
better choice.
>
>I think you have a hardware problem. Check with another drive.
>
I would use LILO if I could, but the problems I have with that I haven't
been able to solve. My C: drive (the bootable partition) is <1024 cylinders
(from 1 to 891 to be exact) yet LILO says that it detects 1460. Oh well. And
I have successfully duplicated this problem on 3 different computers, with 3
different floppy drives. :(
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (dagger)
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux
Subject: Re: LI problem.
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 23:01:12 +1000
In article <7femn3$2jk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Dave Chapman"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi dagger
Hello. :)
>I've seen this before ... but ...memory parity error :))
>
>Could be damaged boot record - I assume you don't have any DOS/FAT
>partitions from your description - get Linux up and redo your LILO
>installation with linuxconf (at the command line)
No dos/fat partition, I have reinstalled lilo (did lilo -v) checked the
config, tried to boot off a lilo boot floppy (created by the linux during
install), but i got a LI 10 10 10 10 10, and so on on boot.
>If that fails, it could be that you don't have an active partition, or maybe
>you only have an extended partition without any primary partition which
>would probably be an invalid configuration. With fdisk, you should be able
>to activate your partition, but if you only have an extended partition, you
>might have to reinstall from scratch using a primary partition instead.
Can you expand on this a little more please? I'm unfamilar with fdisk, any
directions on how to check and do so would be much appreciated
>One other possibility is that your hard disk has got more than 1023
>cylinders even though its not that big - some early drives only have two
>heads and over 1023 cyls - check in your C-MOS settings - if the drive is
>using LBA, you may have that problem. (not that likely though)
No, it only has 583 cylinders. I can't find a CMOS setting for lba....
Thanks in advance, :)
--
dagger
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
(Too much blood in my caffeine system...)
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From: "Csaba Raduly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: microsoft.public.windowsnt.misc,microsoft.public.windowsnt.setup
Subject: Re: Windows NTDETECT
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:28:01 +0100
Reply-To: "Csaba Raduly" <csaba dot raduly strudel sophos dot com>
Justyn Bridge wrote in message
<7f7e30$1e6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
[snip]
> So now no 95 no NT but linux is ok.
That's good enough for me :-)
You could try to install Win95 and then NT. If successful, you can add
Linux to the NT boot menu with bootpart (I've had my system this way
awhile back).
You may have used
sys C:
or similar from 95 which overwrites NT's boot sector with a Win95 boot
sector (short-circuiting NT's loader). There may be a way to recover
from that situation (i.e. Win95 booting - try reinstalling 95 with the
"upgrade" option) but I haven't practised it - any NT gurus around here
?
HTH
Csaba
--
Speed can kill ! Use Windows !
csaba dot raduly strudel sophos dot com
check out: www.sophos.com
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From: -bill- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.os.linux.questions,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Building system to be a web server questions
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:26:07 -0400
The biggest speed improvement would be something like FastCGI, which
maintains persistent connections and does not require recompiling Perl
(if used).
http://www.fastcgi.idle.com
--
-bill-
Technical Service Systems - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Barclay Weir)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: PPP monitoring program
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 11:21:29 GMT
There is also an excellent graphical monitor implemented as an
X-client by Matt Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> called "Pload".
It is readily available, and the latest version for use with
v2.2.x kernels supports various physical network access methods.
Look in comp.os.linux.announce for details.
HTH - Barclay Weir
*************************************************************
Glenn Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>I use pppstats. It should come with your distro.
>It's not graphical, but the terminal output is great stuff
>============================================================
>inTEXT Communications
>Vancouver BC
>On Fri, 16 Apr 1999, Mark Powell wrote:
>> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 16:19:03 -0600
>> From: Mark Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.x, alt.linux, alt.os.linux,
>> comp.os.linux.networking, comp.os.linux.misc
>> Subject: PPP monitoring program
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> I am looking for a good graphical program to moniter my ppp stats.
>> I want it tell display connected, disconnected, bytes sent, etc. I
>> already have chat scripts and such, so I don't need anything to dial for
>>
>> me, just the monitor. Anyone know of a good one out there?
>> Thanks,
>> Mark Powell
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From: Pavel Greenfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Pulldown menus in Netscape
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:32:39 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am using using kfm with the 95 theme!
Jim McCusker wrote:
>
> Pavel Grinfeld wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I wondering if the following thing is configurable. The pull-down menus
> > in Netscape (and, I expect, other applications) are different from (I
> > would even say, worse than in) windows. In windows you get a single
> > widget and you can use your keyboard to jump down, move around, etc.
> > In Linux, on the other hand, you get this very tall widget which says
> > "More" on the bottom and if you delect "More" than a similar widget pops
> > up with its own "More" etc.
> >
> > The problem is that if there are very many choices (e.g.
> > www.buycomp.com) then for one thing it
> > takes a very long time to make a selection. Another is that you run out
> > of monitor space and then it becomes a complete mess.
>
> Yes, I've seen this, and it is pretty yucky, especially if you are
> selecting from a list of countries and the US is under the U's. They
> eventually pile up on each other.
>
> > I'm assuming that it's a Motif thing...
>
> Yes, it is. It's also a mac thing. Combo boxes (which is what is used in
> windows) are about the only thing that Microsoft has actually invented
> (as far as I can tell), and are pretty good, especially with scrolling
> and such. Fortunatly, Netscape 5, or Mozilla, will be using GTK under
> linux, which means that it will have genuine combo boxes available. It
> also means that you will be able to have a themed layout, which was
> pretty cool for me to experience, since I have gnome running (with the
> Marble 3D theme).
>
> > Can this feature be somehow changed?
>
> Right now, no, not at all. I'd suggest that if it really bugs you, use
> kfm and change the widget theme to Win95.
>
> Jim
> --
> Jim McCusker | Class of '99, BA Computer Science & Cognitive Science
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://cif.rochester.edu/~fprefect
> ~Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it,
> poorly.~
> ~~Henry
> Spencer
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Compiling Kernel
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:30:12 GMT
In article <7fepg5$3gv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lian PL) wrote:
> Pardon me but can someone help by giving short specific instructions
> on recompiling the kernel for Redhat.
Look at the Kernel Howto:
http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/Kernel-HOWTO
Hope this is short enough. Be sure you have all the necessary tools
installed. Install the kernel's source (rpm) and read the README
therein.
--
Louis-ljl-{ Louis J. LaBash, Jr. }
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