Linux-Misc Digest #902, Volume #18 Thu, 4 Feb 99 19:13:14 EST
Contents:
Savage 3d video drivers??? (Doepker)
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters (Tim)
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters (Arthur)
Re: How big the partitions (Ben Russo)
Re: cp/mcopy with verify? (Alexander Viro)
Re: Topicality (Paul D. Smith)
Re: Is TurboLinux glibc2 based? ("Thomas T. Veldhouse")
Re: Bunch of pretentious Wankers (Jerry Lynn Kreps)
Re: I'm loosing memory!!! (Rob O'Connell)
Re: Java in NS4.5 not working (Ben Russo)
Re: Environment variables and C (Lawrence Kirby)
Re: No luck with 2.2.x kernel on RH 5.2! (Phil DeBecker)
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters (Jay O'Connor)
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters (Matthias Warkus)
Re: loading up the sound driver module (Rob O'Connell)
Re: Printing problem (Seikosha SP-1900+) (Sam Vere)
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From: Doepker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Savage 3d video drivers???
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 17:03:21 -0500
Does anyone know if there are any written drivers for the Savage 3d
chipset. I recently bought a new computer system, and
with it upgraded my video card to the Hercules Terminator Beast 8MB
(AGP) Savage 3d chipset. I know its a long shot,
but hopefully someone else has taken the time to right a generic driver
or something.
I currently have RedHat 5.1 installed and have not seen any drivers at
their page or at Hercules's homepage.
Thanks IN ADVANCE,
Mark Doepker, MD :)
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From: Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 18:05:04 +0000
Chris wrote:
> Your research is lacking. The server you are using is what is called a
> mirror. I didn't post to an auzzie server. I posted my message on an
> American server and it was mirrored to the server you use.
Oh dear, here I go...
This (as I understand it) is how Usenet works. Someone, somewhere, posts a message
to his/her news server (in my case, news.cc.ic.ac.uk, the news server for Imperial
College, London). That server then sends the post off to the other servers it
knows about, which do the same, and so on. In this way, the message is distributed
to all the servers around the world that carry that particular newsgroup. When
someone else reads the message, and posts a reply, it is posted to their server,
which then begins the process of distributing it to all the other servers again.
Everyone that posts a message to a newsgroup does so to their "own" server (be it
a machine at their college, work place, ISP, etc), and no other. Yes, this post
will eventually find it's way to the server that you use, but I did *not* post it
there. I sent it to news.cc.ic.ac.uk, which then sent it on to another server,
which sent it to another, and so on, until it reached your server, which then sent
it on to another, and so on. The servers don't mirror each other, they just
communicate with each other.
Tim
----
tim <at> darkwave <dot> org <dot> uk
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From: Arthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 15:15:10 -0800
Jay O'Connor wrote:
> Arthur wrote:
> > Keith G. Murphy wrote:
> > > Arthur wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Does anybody know who built the first analog computer?
> > > >
> > > I'm tempted to say, might be the British again, with that Stonehenge
> > > astronomical computer thingie. :-)
> >
> > I meant electronic analog computers, not light based
> > computing with a GUI. Did it run Linux?
>
> I suppose the uptime on that thing puts everything else to shame....
But I wouldn't want to be standing nearby if it crashes.
Sort of the "brown rock of death", I guess.
NT = "Neolithic Technology"?
Arthur
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From: Ben Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.setup.comp.os.linux.help,net.computers.os.linux,news.admin.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: How big the partitions
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 13:27:31 -0500
Kevin Ng & Kina Wong wrote:
> Dear everybody,
>
> Anyone get any idea on how many partitions, the size (in % or
> MB) and the mounting points for a typical liunx machine. Please provide
> the
> case in workstation, server or just a stand-alone machine. (With easy
> fault
> tolerant and administration in users and resources)
>
> Thank you!
Well,
For all systems start with:
/boot 32 MB
swap 2xRAM or 127 MB whichever is smaller, unless you
have specific processes which need HUGE amounts
of VM available (in which case you will be the
expert)
For most single user workstations, or multiuser where someone
just wants an X desktop with netscape and a shell account
I just set the rest aside as "/" and use QUOTA's to restrict each
user to a reasonable fraction of disk space.
For servers of network services, or systems with newbie/hacker
users who won't have root, or systems that have multiple users
doing coding or content development I would set up the following
as well as /boot and swap:
/var 32MB should be fine for most systems, unless you are
running a busy print server, mail server, or syslog
gatherer
If you are doing things like that then once again you
are
the expert.
/tmp 64-512MB depending on the available disk space, and
how many users are on the system and what they are
doing
on systems with users manipulating data I might set
2GB
aside for tmp with no quota, but quota the /home
partition.
/ 64MB-128MB depending on the available disk space.
/usr Between 400MB and 2GB depending on how much /usr/local
software I expect (I link /opt to /usr/local).
"/data or /html or /pub"??? Will you be running services that have
large amounts of data?
/home all remaining space or about 300MB/user. whichever is
reasonable
With QUOTA's you can simplify this type of thing.
Fault tolerance is acomplished with hardware RAID or
software (like md).
Easy administration? I don't know if I ever will find such a thing.
Develop a good familiarity with backup software and test all your
recovery procedures. Do frequent backups and have a standard for
backup/recovery hardware on systems, and a standard for labelling
and storing of backups.
-Ben.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Viro)
Subject: Re: cp/mcopy with verify?
Date: 4 Feb 1999 13:21:45 -0500
In article <79cn0m$tnv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>And you will compare two VFS buffers or maybe one with himself?
Former. Read the fscking source. OTOH you may end up comparing the data
you've read from disk with the data you've tried to write on a diskette.
Umounting diskette, taking it out and reinserting will guarantee that
you'll actually reread the data from it.
--
"You're one of those condescending Unix computer users!"
"Here's a nickel, kid. Get yourself a better computer" - Dilbert.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul D. Smith)
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c,gnu.gcc.help
Subject: Re: Topicality
Date: 04 Feb 1999 17:08:55 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
%% "Dann Corbit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
dc> Paul D. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
dc> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> %% Sunil Rao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
sr> The fact that this discussion is taking place in news:comp.lang.c
sr> (among other groups) should make it clear that it is the ANSI/ISO
sr> C standard that's being talked about. A discussion involving any
sr> other standards would probably more properly belong in
sr> news:comp.unix.programmer.
>> *Shrug* I'm reading it from gnu.gcc.help and I think it's perfectly
>> appropriate to discuss POSIX (after all, legend has it RMS coined the
>> term! :) and SingleUNIX there. putenv() and char**environ _do_ exist in
>> GLIBC, after all.
>> Additionally, I don't think comp.lang.c means you're only talking about
>> ANSI/ISO C.
dc> Well, the topic is about how to program in C. For other
dc> variations, why not try the specific newsgroups.
So you're saying that putenv() is not "programming in C"? Or that
"programming in C" means _ONLY_ programming in ANSI/ISO standard C?
If not, what are you saying (that relates to my comment above)?
If so, then I repeat my question: why bother to have both comp.lang.c
and comp.std.c, if both are restricted to discussions of ANSI/ISO
standard C only?
How many of the C implementations you mentioned _don't_ supply putenv()?
Since it's almost ubiquitous amongst "variants" of C (really, C runtime
libraries), why isn't it appropriate for comp.lang.c?
>> If that's true, then what's the difference between comp.lang.c and
>> comp.std.c? If we were on the latter, I'd agree whole-heartedly.
dc> The newsgroup news:comp.std.c discusses the C Standards document,
dc> and mostly things like how to interpret a clause in the existing
dc> standard or proposed changes to the C9X standard.
Ah... I know. I read it every day.
>> I'd expect comp.lang.c to conver all different sorts of C and lots of
>> different standards--and even non-standard (but common) usages.
dc> K&R C is discussed for historical reasons. If your C question can
dc> be generalized to the C language (often it may be about compiler
dc> x, on OS y but really it is a general question) then this is a
dc> good place to ask. If it is about "How do I access RMS services
dc> under OpenVMS?" or "Should I fork() or spawn a thread here..."
dc> then there are much better places to ask those sort of questions
dc> anyway.
Environments are available in every C implementation; they're mandated
by the standard. Just because the standard only provides read-access to
the environment and not write-access, doesn't mean write access is an
OS-specific issue like fork(), etc. There is a de-facto standard.
>> That's one of the main reasons I don't read it anymore :).
dc> Your loss.
Not hardly. I read comp.lang.c regularly for over 3 years, answering
questions for much of that time. Then I decided that the
signal-to-noise ratio was getting increasingly worse; almost the only
relevant questions anyone asked anymore were already answered in the
_excellent_ FAQ; and yet everyone insisted upon answering them again
without reference to the FAQ--80% of the length of any thread was people
correcting the misinformation posted by others when a simple FAQ
reference would have resolved the thing accurately in one post.
Every time I've ducked back in since, it's only gotten worse.
All in all, I have much better things to do with my time. Of course,
the same could be said of participating in this thread... *sigh* :)
--
===============================================================================
Paul D. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Network Management Development
"Please remain calm...I may be mad, but I am a professional." --Mad Scientist
===============================================================================
These are my opinions---Nortel Networks takes no responsibility for them.
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From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is TurboLinux glibc2 based?
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 12:26:56 -0600
What is your opinion of TurboLinux?
I have yet to run across a distribution that I am truely happy with. I keep
finding myself back with Slackware. I want glibc though, so I have to roll
my own, and I usually break Slackware at some point (compiling some system
tool or other). I am looking for security (i.e. PAM), stability, and ease
of configuration (manual - using text - not RedHat's method).
Tom Veldhouse
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message <79chh2$okr$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>yes it is, and it also has libc5 but I had to use
> LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/X11R6/lib/libc5 ./acrossl
>to get across lite to load.
>
>Jim
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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From: Jerry Lynn Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Bunch of pretentious Wankers
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 16:31:04 -0600
mlw wrote:
> I actually like Bill Clinton. Big deal, he got caught getting a blow
> job? Show me a man that has never lied about sex, and I'll show you a
> man that has never had any.
Show me a man who has been caught lying in court, under oath, and I'll
show you someone who is going to jail for perjury - unless his name is
Bill Clinton, the media darling.
Remember, he's destroying justice and the constitution "for the
children" so that excuses it.
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From: Rob O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: I'm loosing memory!!!
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 13:46:50 -0600
J. S. Jensen wrote:
> "F. Javier Heredia" wrote:
>
> > The problem is that I'm loosing memory when I compile a FORTRAN
> > application. Before the first compilation the output of the "free"
> > command is:
>
> No, you most likely are /not/ loosing your memory (your mind, maybe
> :-). What is happening is the system is using this memory as a cache
> and buffering all your data into memory, therefore allowing faster use
> of memory vs. disk.
>
- exactly.....in fact free should be as close as possible to zero - that
means all the system memory is being used more efficiently.
Rob
--
Rob O'Connell - "Work is the curse of the drinking class" - Oscar Wilde
lab#: (608) 2659467 mob#: (608) 3473838 home#: (608) 2519918
Work address: Plasma Physics, 1150 University Ave., Madison WI 53706
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://aida.physics.wisc.edu/~oconnell
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From: Ben Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Java in NS4.5 not working
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 14:50:09 -0500
Kaustav Bhattacharya wrote:
> As a followup to my original posting: here is an error I get when an
> applet tries to start:
>
> Unable to start a java applet: Can't find 'java40.jar' in your
> CLASSPATH. Read the release notes an install 'java40.jar' properly
> before restarting.
>
> Current claue for CLASSPATH:
> /usr/local/lib/netscpae/plugins:/usr/bin/plugins:/home/kozzey/.netscape/plugins
>
> Anything wrong with that class path?
Yes, it doesn't contain the class path!
as root
vi /etc/profile
edit to appropriately set
MOZILLA_HOME=/usr/local/netscape
or
MOZILLA_HOME=/opt/netscape
or
MOZILLA_HOME=/whatever/directory/you/installed/netscape/in
export MOZILLA_HOME
CLASSPATH=$MOZILLA_HOME/java/classes/java40.jar:.
export CLASSPATH
-Ben.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lawrence Kirby)
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c,gnu.gcc.help
Subject: Re: Environment variables and C
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 99 21:21:33 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] "Paul D. Smith" writes:
>%% Sunil Rao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> sr> The fact that this discussion is taking place in news:comp.lang.c
> sr> (among other groups) should make it clear that it is the ANSI/ISO
> sr> C standard that's being talked about. A discussion involving any
> sr> other standards would probably more properly belong in
> sr> news:comp.unix.programmer.
>
>*Shrug* I'm reading it from gnu.gcc.help and I think it's perfectly
>appropriate to discuss POSIX (after all, legend has it RMS coined the
>term! :) and SingleUNIX there. putenv() and char**environ _do_ exist in
>GLIBC, after all.
>
>Additionally, I don't think comp.lang.c means you're only talking about
>ANSI/ISO C. If that's true, then what's the difference between
>comp.lang.c and comp.std.c? If we were on the latter, I'd agree
>whole-heartedly.
comp.std.c is for discussing the C standards documents and standardisation
process. It is not for discussing the C language except where the
discussion relates directly to the wording of the standard and how it is
interpreted. comp.lang.c is for discussing the C language. The C language
is currently defined by the ISO/IEC 9899-1990 document (with some minor
addenda). For historical reasons discussion of K&R C is also fine if
that is made clear in the article.
>I'd expect comp.lang.c to conver all different sorts of C and lots of
>different standards--and even non-standard (but common) usages.
There are a number of standards that define in effect extensions to C but
there is only one standard that defines the C language. The issues that are
discussed in comp.lang.c should be applicable to anybody with a hosted C
compiler on any platform.
--
=========================================
Lawrence Kirby | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Wilts, England | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
=========================================
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Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 11:46:50 -0500
From: Phil DeBecker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.questions,linux.dev.kernel,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: No luck with 2.2.x kernel on RH 5.2!
Greg Waugh wrote:
> No, the /dev/kmem is there. 2.0.36 boots fine (if I use modutils 2.1.85,
> otherwise everything screws up there too). Here are the problems:
>
> "cannot load module st" (referring to my tape drive)
> "cannot load module midi" (for the sound card... which I can live
> without for now)
> "Error network aliasing not supported in kernel" (I have network and IP
> aliasing compiled into the kernel)
>
> I used linuxconf to add the IP aliases to the box. If I don't manually
> remove sendmail, httpd and smbd before it boots, it will hang. At which
> point I can log in and look around. The network card is found and eth0 is
> there with the correct primary IP bound to it, but you cannot ping anything
> or go anywhere. And nobody can ping me.
>
> This error is the one that concerns me:
>
> Feb 3 21:26:54 bert kernel: Error seeking in /dev/kmem
> Feb 3 21:26:54 bert kernel: Error adding kernel module table entry.
>
> Is there something in /etc/lilo.conf that could be throwing it off? My
> lilo.conf is just the dist RH with an extra line added:
>
> boot=/dev/sda
> map=/boot/map
> install=/boot/boot.b
> prompt
> timeout=50
> image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.0.36-0.7
> label=linux
> root=/dev/sda1
> initrd=/boot/initrd-2.0.36-0.7.img
> read-only
> image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.1
> label=linux22
> root=/dev/sda1
> read-only
>
> I don't know what to do next... or what to post in here. Here's the
> checklist:
>
> Upgraded modutils to 2.1.121 (no difference)
> Upgraded net-tools to 1.50.
> Upgraded ipchains
>
> Is there something I'm missing on how to build a kernel for Red Hat? I'm
> going to try to build a 2.1.x just to see what's up....
>
> Ray Willis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >yes it seems like your missing /dev/kmem kmem is a kernel device for your
> >kernels memory managment. I have no idea why that is gone. you could try
> a
> >MAKEDEV
> >in your /dev dir but Im not sure if that would help or hinder. Sorry. It
> seems
> >like linux is getting less stable the further we move with it. duno why.
> I had
> >a problem one time with my network config just blowing up on me for no
> reason,
> >as in I havent touched it for weeks and just let it do its thing. one
> morning
> >bam its network config just decided to blow up on me. then I rebooted and
> it
> >started saying delaying eth2 initialization. This is starting to bother me
> a
> >little.
> >
> >Later Again,
> >RayW
> >
> >Greg Waugh wrote:
> >
> >> Done it all... in exactly that order. This is the only other error I get
> on
> >> boot.
> >>
> >> Feb 3 21:45:24 bert kernel: Error seeking in /dev/kmem
> >> Feb 3 21:45:24 bert kernel: Error adding kernel module table entry.
> >>
> >> The network claims it's there, but I can't ping anything. Modules that
> I've
> >> compiled into the kernel cannot be found as if they were modules that
> were
> >> deleted. I had to disable all services (sendmail, named, httpd) just to
> get
> >> it to boot cause they cause the system to hang. I get the same error
> with
> >> the sound driver and midi modules (cannot load module midi) even though
> they
> >> aren't modules... they're compiled into the kernel!
> >>
> >> I'm at a loss...
> >>
> >> Ray Willis wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >> >ok, have you compiled the kernel in this order?
> >> >
> >> >make menuconfig
> >> ><configure the kernel>
> >> >make dep
> >> >make clean
> >> >make install
> >> >make modules
> >> >make modules_install
> >> >then edit /etc/lilo.conf
> >> >and add the kernel vmlinuz for a boot image.
> >> >do not remove the lilo.conf lines that you are currently booting
> >> >then do a lilo
> >> >that should solve a few problems. :)
> >> >
> >> >later,
> >> >
> >> >RayW
> >> >
> >> >Greg Waugh wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I'm trying to upgrade my 1 month old RH 5.2 system to 2.2.1... and
> I'm
> >> >> having no luck! Pretty simple box, P166, 2940U SCSI, 64MB SDRAM, 3Com
> >> >> 3C509B NIC. Anyway, nothing seems to work right. I've upgraded
> >> net-tools,
> >> >> modutils, ipchains, etc. And nothing. I get errors about modules
> cannot
> >> be
> >> >> located, but most of them were things I linked right into the kernel!
> >> >> Anyway, nothing starts because the network is so funky. I'm using IP
> >> >> aliasing and it gives me errors about aliasing not supported in the
> >> kernel
> >> >> even though I compiled it in (not as a module). Also get errors that
> the
> >> >> module st cannot be loaded (even though I compiled it into the
> kernel).
> >> >> Anyway, I can't even boot the kernel to figure out what's going on
> since
> >> all
> >> >> the services hang...
> >> >>
> >> >> Feb 3 20:33:36 bert kernel: Cannot find map file.
> >> >> Feb 3 20:33:36 bert kernel: Error seeking in /dev/kmem
> >> >> Feb 3 20:33:36 bert kernel: Error adding kernel module table entry.
> >> >>
> >> >> I get this error in the boot logs, but I know I've put the System.map
> >> file
> >> >> in the correct place... /boot/System.map... right? I've never build a
> >> >> kernel under RH before... I've build a million kernels under other
> dists,
> >> >> and never once had a problem. (I just build 2.2.1 on my Slackware 95
> >> >> machine that's approaching 4 years old... no problems at all).
> >> >>
> >> >> Any help with RH kernel building would be very appreciated! Thanks!
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> ------------------------------------------
> >> >>
> >> >> Greg Waugh ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> >> >
> >
I think I see what your problem is, but I'm not sure exactly the steps required
to fix it as I'm not personally a SCSI user.
You're booting off a scsi drive, and your 2.0.36 setup uses initrd. What seems
to be happening is that you don't have access to your hard disk at the point
where linux is looking into /dev (to get at /dev/kmem). This is hosing up all
sorts of things. initrd (the Initial RAM Disk) driver is supposed to help get
around such problems.
I don't know if you're running scsi as a module, if so don't. Otherwise you
should set up the initrd stuff for 2.2.1 and that should probably fix your
problem.
Incidentally, I'm running 2.2.1 on a RH 5.1 system with no problems, so you
should be able to get it working also.
Hope this helps,
Phil
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From: Jay O'Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 13:56:00 -0600
Arthur wrote:
>
> Keith G. Murphy wrote:
> >
> > Arthur wrote:
> > >
> > > Does anybody know who built the first analog computer?
> > >
> > I'm tempted to say, might be the British again, with that Stonehenge
> > astronomical computer thingie. :-)
>
> I meant electronic analog computers, not light based
> computing with a GUI. Did it run Linux?
I suppose the uptime on that thing puts everything else to shame....
> Arthur
--
===================================
Jay O'Connor
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.roadrunner.com/~joconnor
http://www.ezboard.com
"God himself plays the bass strings first when He tunes the soul"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:46:14 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the Mon, 01 Feb 1999 17:50:22 -0600...
..and Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[pledge of allegiance towards a flag]
The point is that it's a pledge about a stupid *totem*. A flag.
Pledges on the Constitution are OK - I mean, f.ex., my father had to
take one since he is a teacher (=a civil servant).
But I simply don't *get* what a flag's got to do in such a pledge.
Sorry.
mawa
--
Actually, the fun thing about playing the piano is that you can walk
around in town with a Henle Urtext partition, showing off, and feeling
like a *musician*.
-- mawa
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From: Rob O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.dev.sound,linux.redhat.list,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: loading up the sound driver module
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 13:33:50 -0600
> any idea how i could load up the sound driver under linux. i believe my
> kernel is being compiled with sound driver as a loadable module (comes
> with redhat 5.2).
>
>
sndconfig
works great with my SB
hint: in future try issuing the command
"man -k sound" or "man -k filesystem" or whatever to get the first line of
attack on a problem...
Rob
--
Rob O'Connell - "Work is the curse of the drinking class" - Oscar Wilde
lab#: (608) 2659467 mob#: (608) 3473838 home#: (608) 2519918
Work address: Plasma Physics, 1150 University Ave., Madison WI 53706
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://aida.physics.wisc.edu/~oconnell
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam Vere)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Printing problem (Seikosha SP-1900+)
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 23:03:12 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 3 Feb 1999 00:23:56 GMT, Dan Glover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Sam Vere
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>[all of it, in fact]
>
>>>Okay, firstly I'm on the SuSE 5.3 distro.
>
>Well, it's me again, and I wasn't much help with this last time (and
>don't know SuSE or your printer). Still, nobody else has come forward,
>so here goes...sorry it got a bit rambling by the end as more
>information came to light and it's too late now to re-write it properly.
>
>>>Secondly, the printer I'm having trouble with is a Seikosha SP-1900+,
>>>a very old 9-pin dot-martix with Epson FX-850 & IBM Proprinter II
>>>emulation modes.
>
>Uh-huh.
>
>>Okay. I have now found that the paper feed *will* work if you put
>>something - anything - in the print queue.
This turned out to be due to the driver being a module. Silly me.
>Well, it's a start. What happens if you do the simplest test possible,
>eg (as root) `ls >/dev/lp0`? (Or could be /dev/lp1, depends on your
>setup).
>
>>Unfortunately all I get is garbage output. (Ususally very small
>>amounts of plain text near the left margin. Usually only one line.
>
>AIUI things which emulate postscript do so by making the printer do
>clever things (for what are these days fairly small values of "clever").
>A dot-matrix which can only do one of a limited number of character sets
>is probably not up to the job. OTOH if the emulation modes allow
>graphics to be built up from individual dot patterns you might get
>somewhere, albeit slowly.
Mm. This is the only one I can get to work under Windows,
incidentally.
>In the sources for magicfilter there are a
>couple of drivers for Epson models, and one for the IBM ProPrinter.
SuSE is supposed to set up apsfilter (and therefore also ghostscript,
I think.)
>These rely on Ghostscript so you should be able to do it "by hand"
>following the examples, eg this is a fragment from the proprinter filter
>(lines split with \ for posting):
>
>0 %! filter /usr/bin/gs -q -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE \
>-r120x72 -sDEVICE=ibmpro -sOutputFile=- -
>
>The Printing-Usage-HOWTO also suggests that anything which can do
>ProPrinter emulation is in with a chance.
Incidentally, I recently tried with a plain text file, and got the
same nonsense files several times over.
<later>
Hang on... Raw works...
>>Does this mean that my Ghostscript setup is out of whack, or are there
>>any dip-switch settings I should pay attention to - CR+LF Vs LF, that
>>sort of thing.
>
>CR/LF problems can be done in software quite easily. I think you need
>to check the various options for Ghostscript first. If you do a `gs -h`
>do you see a device called "epson" or "ibmpro"?
I'll have a look...
>If not it looks like
>time to rebuild Ghostscript... This doesn't look like a job for the
>faint hearted and these devices don't seem to get included in the
>default configuration. Prepare to spend plenty of time reading the
>documenatation. Sources should be available from somewhere in:
>ftp://ftp.demon.co.uk/pub/mirrors/gnu/ as well as other places.
This would be just my luck...
<later>
Nope they're all there...
Wish I had another printer to cross check with...
>There, that should keep you going for a few days!
>
>Dan
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