Linux-Misc Digest #923, Volume #19 Wed, 21 Apr 99 23:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: VMware sell-out to Microsoft??? ("Edwin E. Thorne")
Re: Printing with IP in Linux ("Jeremy L. Buchmann")
Linux Desktop (kunnip)
Re: X Programming (David M. Cook)
canon2000 or hp695c printer ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: rsh, rcp, what is going on? (Dustin Puryear)
Thing about Linux you do not know... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Mouse problem in RedHat Linux 5.2! (I am sending this to multiple NGs) (Werner
Peters)
canon2000 or hp695c printer ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux (Terry Moore - Systems)
Thing about Linux you do not know... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: jdk setup (Robert Lynch)
Re: Telnetd checking hostname ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: "Edwin E. Thorne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: VMware sell-out to Microsoft???
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 09:38:59 -0500
Andrew D Matuszak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I don't understand why Bill Frisbee is reading this newsgroup. This is
> one of the busiest news groups that I subscribe to. I don't have time to
> waste downloading and deleting Bill's crap. Bill, why don't you
> unsubscribe to our newsgroup and do something more productive then lay
> flame bait. I applaud all the effort that has gone into making linux a
> great platform and a real alternative to other OS's.
>
> On Fri, 16 Apr 1999, Bill Frisbee wrote:
Bill is most likely NOT reading comp.os.linux.misc, as I am not. The
original poster cross-posted the thread to comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy, the
group he and I read.
> >
> > Joseph T. Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:7f5c59$iv4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > > Not really. There's only one right now and it's mostly for the two
> > > Windows-only software packages I use at work and therefore need at
> > > home as well. I now do almost everything else in Linux.
> >
> > How quaint. I however like the newest and best hardware... neither of
which
> > Linux supports (read this as the Voodoo3 AGP, the SoundBlaster Live, USB
> > mice, keyboards and joysticks, dual monitors on two video cards, DVD
MPEG
> > harware playback and last but not least 2 RAID cards. Till linux
supports
> > ALL of these, it is useless to me, plus I cannot play X-Wing Alliance,
> > Half-Life, Baldur's Gate, European Air War, WW2 Fighters, SDOE, or
Combat
> > Flight Sim on linux...
> >
> >
> > > No, these folks (or their parents, roommates, etc.) actually tend to
> > > have very nice hardware, often their parents' 450MHz Dells or Gateways
> > > that they've set up to dual-boot Windows for their parents and Linux
> > > for themselves, and/or nice Solaris or *BSD workstations at school. I
> > > would love to have some of the stuff these kids use nowadays!
> >
> > How very true, however only 5% of those students are using Linux.
> >
> > > As for compromise, yeah, 90% of them will learn to sell out someday,
> > > and do things they know are wrong in order to make a living, just like
> > > you and me and 90% of the other people in this completely fucked-up
> > > industry.
> > >
> > > But thank God for the other 10%.
> >
> > See above, and those students are mostly using Linux as a server not as
a
> > workstation or desktop.
> >
> > > As for home users, much of what they do consists of (a) Web surfing,
> > > e-mail etc., (b) word processing, and (c) games. Few games support
> > > Linux yet, but they will, and in the other areas, the Linux offerings
> > > are already much more numerous and varied than the Windows
> > > alternatives.
> >
> > Hmm... last time I checked I only know of 3 office suites 2 of which are
> > available for Windows. I don't want to do everything in EMACS or VI.
Sorry I
> > need to be a LOT more productive than that.
> >
> > > That will change. It's already changed enough that Linux is my
> > > primary platform. That wouldn't have been possible even a year ago.
> >
> > Thats nice if you don't want to run many applications that mean
something,
> > or if you want to keep using yesterday's technology.
> >
> > > And as was always true of the Mac, for instance, there are just as
> > > many *good* apps available for either platform. There are more titles
> > > available for Windows, sure, but most of them frankly are of low
> > > quality. Windows itself is hacked-together crap, which mutates
> > > constantly and tends to break older programs. There is no need for
> > > Windows software to be more robust than the very buggy OS on which it
> > > runs, and furthermore, Windows programs tend to have short life cycles
> > > since "system upgrades" tend to break them. Thus, there is very
> > > little incentive for Windows developers to maximize quality. Users of
> > > Windows simply don't expect it. If they did, they woudln't be using
> > > Windows in the first place.
> >
> > Blagh... sure man... and I bet you support OSS too...
> >
> >
> > Bill F.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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From: "Jeremy L. Buchmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.amin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Printing with IP in Linux
Date: 21 Apr 1999 18:20:11 GMT
In comp.os.linux.networking Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
: Douglas A. Haines <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:>Hi Folks,
:>I have my Linux box networking with TCP/IP pretty good at this point,
:>but I cannot figure out how to get a printer configured through the
:>spooler that prints to an IP address. I have a LinkSys Pocket print
:>server that has an IP address and I can print to this through WinDoze
:>via TCP/IP. I recently purchased a book on Linux Secrets and it does
:>not give me the secret on setting up TCP/IP printers (I guess doing this
:>is a secret in itself). I'm running RedHat 5.1 with a 2.0.34 kernel.
:>Any information is helpful. Thanks.
:>
:>Doug Haines
: I set up TCP/IP printing using Red Hat 4.2 to an HP JetDirect that was
: configured for TCP/IP printing and it went pretty easily.
: If you have X set up and working, login as root, start x and use the
: control panel thing, that is how I did it and I had it working in 10
: minutes with no prior experience on this sort of thing...
: --
: Wolf
: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
...and if that doesn't work, don't worry. It's actually so simple you will
slap yourself silly when you find out how easy it is. It amounts to a 5 line
entry in /etc/printcap and 1 line entry in /etc/hosts.
The /etc/printcap entry needs a hostanme, but most printers don't have
hostnames...just IP addresses. So, in /etc/hosts, make up a name for your
printer (we'll say "foo"), and put in a line like:
xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx foo.bar.com foo
Then, in your printcap entry, put something like:
...
rm=foo
...
I don't remember then entire syntax for the printcap entry, but if you look
at the Printing-HOWTO, they have an example which you can copy almost line
for line (substituting in all your info, of course).
===================================================================
Jeremy Buchmann "Those who trade freedom for safety deserve
[EMAIL PROTECTED] neither freedom nor safety." -- Ben Franklin
===================================================================
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From: kunnip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux Desktop
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 01:10:54 GMT
Hi there,
Anyone would like to share any insight on the future of Linux desktop?
As everyone knows, Linux has gained its popularity on the server side.
What about the desktop? I've read so many articles saying that Linux
isn't ready yet for the desktop since there aren't many applications and
the developers don't see the market yet.
Also, what is the possibility that SCO will port their apps to Linux?
When would that happen? Thanks!!
Connie
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David M. Cook)
Subject: Re: X Programming
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:55:47 GMT
On Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:22:02 -0700, jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Learning Xlib is completely unnecessary,
>Oh really, what planet are you from?
Well, you tell us why learning Xlib is useful to anyone but toolkit and
window manager writers. Some of the concepts are important, but you don't
need to learn Xlib to pick those up.
Dave Cook
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: canon2000 or hp695c printer
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 14:15:01 GMT
hi there
I am planning on buying a new printer, and doubting between
the canon2000 and hp695c. Since ofcourse it should work under linux,
i want to know wether they are supported and/or which one is best supported.
Is either of them a socalled 'winprinter'? (i believe the right term is PPA?)
Furthermore since i also run win95 (i know, bad choice) and any problems are
related to Aladin Ghostscript, do those problems also apply to the win95
version of ghostscript?
Maja
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dustin Puryear)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: rsh, rcp, what is going on?
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 23:34:27 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 21 Apr 1999 00:28:38 GMT, brian moore wrote:
>No, it has to do with shell expansion. Your second problem is because
>you're pounding the server. Inetd probably killed rcp until it cooled
>down. See your logs.
I have a similar problem with ftp. If I mget a directory with more than 200
or so files it tells me the argument list is too large. Is this a limitation
with ftp? Also, about "pounding" the server with rcp. How would you solve
the problem?
--
Dustin Puryear
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Thing about Linux you do not know...
Date: Thu,22 Apr 1999 17:18:14+2000
New total graphics and CAD solution for LIN����X !!!
http://www.linuxcad.com
LinuxCAD may replace AutoCAD and Visio in 90% of cases where ACAD is used,
and in 100% cases the Visio is used it means
thousands of dollars in savings !!! Plus true multitasking of Linux and
freedom from the MS-Windows.
http://www.linuxcad.com
LinuxCAD is an AutoCAD for Linux for all practical purposes it implements
all major features of ACAD in such a way that new users (who had ACAD experience
before)
do not need any additional training to start working with LinuxCAD.
http://www.linuxcad.com
LinuxCAD is a professional quality Computer Aided design and Drafting
system for Linux , LinuxCAD is all graphics , all visual modelling and
all diagramming you may need for Linux !!!
http://www.linuxcad.com
LinuxCAD can be used in:
Software Development Flowcharting ,
Entity Relationship Diagramming,
System Administration Diagramming and you actually can start
your sysadmin tasks from inside LinuxCAD,
Mechanical Engineering drafting,
PCB and schematic design ( easily integrated with routing programs ),
Geographicsl Information Systems,
Any kind of drafting where integration with database is important,
Floor plans for buildings and facilities,
Architectural Drafting,
Front end for programmable rendering systems like OpenGL,
Can be used to replace ACAD in every application later is used !!!
LinuxCAD - a must have for every Linux user.
LinuxCAD for Sun SPARC - $350 ( when purchasing multiple copies
major discount provided ).
LinuxCAD is available for Intel x86 and PowerMac Linuxes.
LinuxCAD is a very affordable commercial program
Intel version - only $99
LinuxPPC version - only $120
Also available for all major ����nix versions ( look at our web site
for details. )
YO���� CAN START ����SING WORKING, BREATHING LIN����XCAD IN 24 HO����RS AFTER
PAYING BY CREDIT CARD !!!
This prices will meet our competitors anywhere in the world
to the benefits of all Linux users. They show our commitment to mass Linux market,
our long term goals and superior quality of our product in comparison to
competition.
LinuxCAD v 1.85
includes important additions:
1. Printing to HPGL compatible plotters ,
2. Printing DeskJet and LaserJet ,
3. Printing Postscript
4. Printing LinuxCAD MS Windows based Print server.
5. Blocks and Attributes - just like in AutoCAD.
6. Bezier Splines.
7. 3D objects and algorythms.
8. ����ser Coordinate Systems.
9. Bug fix from LinuxCAD rel 1.8
10. Hidden lines removal.
11. Dview command.
12. Forming of 3D shapes by extrusion and revolution.
13. Support for SHX fonts in ����nifont format. That means national symbols,
including german accent letters, cyrillic, katakana, kanji.
all included in $99 basic package, there is no need to purchase any
additions or extensions.
Now our competitors can no longer claim "The best performance/price ratio"
The best performance/price ratio provides nothing else but LinuxCAD alone !!!
check and see for yourself:
http://www.linuxcad.com
The outline of the main features of the previous versions:
1) LinuxCAD provides great variety of entity types ( lines , circles , ellipses ,
traces , text ,
polylines , solids , doughnuts , arcs , spline curves , user defined entities and 3D
entities ) ,
2) LinuxCAD implements all necessary editing features ( scale ,
rotate , mirror , offset , array , copy , move , hatch , trim , extend , purge , ...
).
3) Allows up to 1000 layers, with ability to control layer color and visibility
independently.
4) All entities are transferable to and from AutoCAD through DXF exchange format.
5) Supports user defined line types and load able fonts in SHX format ( including
����nicode fonts ).
6) Supports a hardcopy to printers.
7) Parts of the drawing can be copied between different instances of the LinuxCAD
using X-Clipboard.
8) LinuxCAD has industry standard Motif G����I.
9) Allows users to write custom applications for automating typical editing and
drafting tasks
using industry most popular C-compiler GCC.
10) Easy integration to relational databases !!!
http://www.linuxcad.com
We are looking for resellers of the shrink wrapped copies of LinuxCAD,
reseller discounts provided.
Software Forge Inc.
public relations department
PS. LinuxCAD has been developed using our proprietary Post Object Oriented
Technology of Software Development. We have a strategic advantage against
our competitors ( including big ones ) in the speed of development and
manageability of huge volumes of source code (!)
In the long run You better off with LinuxCAD !!!
LinuxCAD is the future , AutoCAD is the past, Give LinuxCAD a try !!!
http://www.linuxcad.com
Software Forge Inc. , just as such companies as Cygnus,Caldera,SSC,
Netscape,Oracle,IBM,Redhat doing its best in bringing Linux OS in the
mainstream of business computing !!! Our product LinuxCAD firmly
establishes Linux as solid platform for Computer Aided Drafting and
diagramming !!!
This entire post is Copyright of the Software Forge Inc. and can be reproduced
or copied only in its entirety in its original unmodified form.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Werner Peters)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Mouse problem in RedHat Linux 5.2! (I am sending this to multiple NGs)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 14:44:42 GMT
On Mon, 19 Apr 1999 22:54:53 -0500, "Tim McDonough" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>If it's the M$ IntelliMouse, you might try this:
>http://www.inria.fr/koala/colas/mouse-wheel-scroll/
Nope. I have just a plain jane MS mouse. It won't work.. yet.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: canon2000 or hp695c printer
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 14:21:59 GMT
hi there,
I am planning to buy a new printer, and i'm doubting between a canon2000
bubblejet and an hp695c deskjet. Since ofcourse i want to be able to use it
with linux, my question is wether they are supported, and which one is
supported best. In particular, is any of them a socalled 'winprinter'? (i
believe the right term to be PPA?)
And since the question is related to aladin ghostscript, do any problems
regarding the printers also apply to the win95 version of this program?
yours sincerely,
Maja
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------------------------------
From: Terry Moore - Systems <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 07:18:40 -0500
I think that you may find freebsd more stable and less
likely to gain access to than red hat. We use freeb here
and belive me these websites get pounded day in and day out.
The only time they fall down is when the admin team is working
on them and we break something.
Redhat is great in it place dont get me wrong and in the middle
I select slackware. Lots of drivers and lots of utilities. Lots
of hacks.. check slashdot.org to see that info.
Regards
Terry
Fred Read wrote:
>
> I have been quite happy using either. I've always leaned more towards RedHat
> for it's ease of administration using Linuxconf (especially for virtual
> domain hosting), but FreeBSD is definitely faster. Either one will do the
> job just fine.
>
> Nicolas Blais <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Stephen H. Kapit" wrote:
> I'm looking at a web server OS for a web hosting only system. I seem to be
> coming down to Redhat Linux or freebsd. Can anyone comment on this for me?
> I
> plan to put it on an AMD 350 scsi hd system with lots of ram. And
> co-locating
> the server.
> Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
> Thanks.
> Stephen
>
> If you want power, use FreeBSD, but if you want a kitten with holes you can
> always get Linux. I'm allergic to cats so I use FreeBSD.
> In other words, get FreeBSD, i'll do the job plus coffee if you need it.
> --
> Nicolas Blais [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Powered by FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org
> My current running version : FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Thing about Linux you do not know...
Date: Thu,22 Apr 1999 18:08:53+2000
New total graphics and CAD solution for LIN����X !!!
http://www.linuxcad.com
LinuxCAD may replace AutoCAD and Visio in 90% of cases where ACAD is used,
and in 100% cases the Visio is used it means
thousands of dollars in savings !!! Plus true multitasking of Linux and
freedom from the MS-Windows.
http://www.linuxcad.com
LinuxCAD is an AutoCAD for Linux for all practical purposes it implements
all major features of ACAD in such a way that new users (who had ACAD experience
before)
do not need any additional training to start working with LinuxCAD.
http://www.linuxcad.com
LinuxCAD is a professional quality Computer Aided design and Drafting
system for Linux , LinuxCAD is all graphics , all visual modelling and
all diagramming you may need for Linux !!!
http://www.linuxcad.com
LinuxCAD can be used in:
Software Development Flowcharting ,
Entity Relationship Diagramming,
System Administration Diagramming and you actually can start
your sysadmin tasks from inside LinuxCAD,
Mechanical Engineering drafting,
PCB and schematic design ( easily integrated with routing programs ),
Geographicsl Information Systems,
Any kind of drafting where integration with database is important,
Floor plans for buildings and facilities,
Architectural Drafting,
Front end for programmable rendering systems like OpenGL,
Can be used to replace ACAD in every application later is used !!!
LinuxCAD - a must have for every Linux user.
LinuxCAD for Sun SPARC - $350 ( when purchasing multiple copies
major discount provided ).
LinuxCAD is available for Intel x86 and PowerMac Linuxes.
LinuxCAD is a very affordable commercial program
Intel version - only $99
LinuxPPC version - only $120
Also available for all major ����nix versions ( look at our web site
for details. )
YO���� CAN START ����SING WORKING, BREATHING LIN����XCAD IN 24 HO����RS AFTER
PAYING BY CREDIT CARD !!!
This prices will meet our competitors anywhere in the world
to the benefits of all Linux users. They show our commitment to mass Linux market,
our long term goals and superior quality of our product in comparison to
competition.
LinuxCAD v 1.85
includes important additions:
1. Printing to HPGL compatible plotters ,
2. Printing DeskJet and LaserJet ,
3. Printing Postscript
4. Printing LinuxCAD MS Windows based Print server.
5. Blocks and Attributes - just like in AutoCAD.
6. Bezier Splines.
7. 3D objects and algorythms.
8. ����ser Coordinate Systems.
9. Bug fix from LinuxCAD rel 1.8
10. Hidden lines removal.
11. Dview command.
12. Forming of 3D shapes by extrusion and revolution.
13. Support for SHX fonts in ����nifont format. That means national symbols,
including german accent letters, cyrillic, katakana, kanji.
all included in $99 basic package, there is no need to purchase any
additions or extensions.
Now our competitors can no longer claim "The best performance/price ratio"
The best performance/price ratio provides nothing else but LinuxCAD alone !!!
check and see for yourself:
http://www.linuxcad.com
The outline of the main features of the previous versions:
1) LinuxCAD provides great variety of entity types ( lines , circles , ellipses ,
traces , text ,
polylines , solids , doughnuts , arcs , spline curves , user defined entities and 3D
entities ) ,
2) LinuxCAD implements all necessary editing features ( scale ,
rotate , mirror , offset , array , copy , move , hatch , trim , extend , purge , ...
).
3) Allows up to 1000 layers, with ability to control layer color and visibility
independently.
4) All entities are transferable to and from AutoCAD through DXF exchange format.
5) Supports user defined line types and load able fonts in SHX format ( including
����nicode fonts ).
6) Supports a hardcopy to printers.
7) Parts of the drawing can be copied between different instances of the LinuxCAD
using X-Clipboard.
8) LinuxCAD has industry standard Motif G����I.
9) Allows users to write custom applications for automating typical editing and
drafting tasks
using industry most popular C-compiler GCC.
10) Easy integration to relational databases !!!
http://www.linuxcad.com
We are looking for resellers of the shrink wrapped copies of LinuxCAD,
reseller discounts provided.
Software Forge Inc.
public relations department
PS. LinuxCAD has been developed using our proprietary Post Object Oriented
Technology of Software Development. We have a strategic advantage against
our competitors ( including big ones ) in the speed of development and
manageability of huge volumes of source code (!)
In the long run You better off with LinuxCAD !!!
LinuxCAD is the future , AutoCAD is the past, Give LinuxCAD a try !!!
http://www.linuxcad.com
Software Forge Inc. , just as such companies as Cygnus,Caldera,SSC,
Netscape,Oracle,IBM,Redhat doing its best in bringing Linux OS in the
mainstream of business computing !!! Our product LinuxCAD firmly
establishes Linux as solid platform for Computer Aided Drafting and
diagramming !!!
This entire post is Copyright of the Software Forge Inc. and can be reproduced
or copied only in its entirety in its original unmodified form.
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:36:46 -0700
From: Robert Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: jdk setup
Chris Bestall wrote:
>
> I just downloaded jdk 1.7 and untarred it, but now what?? I think you
> might have to compile it or something, im not sure. I am running redhat
> 5.2 on intel based cpu. I want to get it working basically so i can get
> icq to work. when i run the installation on icq it says java/exec path
> not working. I set the paths to the untarred dirctories. any help
> would be appreciated. Thanks in advance,
> Chris Bestall
See:
http://www.blackdown.org/java-linux/docs/faq/FAQ-java-linux-3.html#ss3.3
HTH. Bob L.
--
Robert Lynch-Berkeley CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.best.com/~rmlynch/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Telnetd checking hostname
Date: 20 Apr 1999 10:00:29 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto) writes:
> Is there something wrong with your DNS setup?
>
> You can bypass the DNS lookup by providing the appropriate hostnames
> in /etc/hosts (and configuring /etc/host.conf or /etc/nsswitch.conf
> or both to look there before consulting the servers).
Actually I can't, I'm dialing into a server that assigns addresses
which aren't in the DNS database (outside my control).
regards,
--
Tom Evans
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