Linux-Misc Digest #988, Volume #19 Thu, 29 Apr 99 18:13:11 EDT
Contents:
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to "GNU Communism") (jedi)
Re: converting ps to pdf (Ian Hay)
Some USR modems are MS-only, Re: [SURVEY] Who has an internal modem in his linux box
? ("Cameron Spitzer")
HELP! I can't compile and run (Chad)
Re: converting ps to pdf (Gerald Willmann)
Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment.... (jedi)
Stoopid Knews Question (Keven R. Pittsinger)
Automating Dynamic DNS Registration after PPP ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment.... ("Jim")
FSF capitalist visionaries? (Was Re: GNU reeks of Communism) (Greg Yantz)
Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment.... (Marty Phee)
Re: Xfree Matrox Mil ("Anthony J. Gabrielson")
Re: My new Apsfilter-created /etc/printcap - How do I use the "RAW" device with the
Epson Stylus COLOR ESC/P 2 driver on NT via Samba? ("Bleh")
Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment.... (jedi)
Are there other ports of java in linux? (jmsalvo)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to "GNU Communism") (Ewan Dunbar)
Kernel 2.2.X rpm ("Aaron Dershem")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jedi)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to "GNU Communism")
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:50:01 -0700
On Thu, 29 Apr 1999 19:30:46 +0200, Matthias Warkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>It was the Wed, 28 Apr 1999 19:53:14 -0700...
>...and Jim Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> So to return to the topic...
>
>Good intention.
>
>> I haven't yet read anyone mentioning the suffering caused by "GNU Communism".
>>
>> For example, no longer can companies make money selling a UNIX port
>> or a C++ compiler, now that gcc and Linux is freely spreading like gonorrhea.
>
>Of course they can. They can sell gcc. What do you think Cygnus make a
>living of?
>
>> Those companies once used to provide jobs and salaries, which are now gone.
If you are an economic darwinist or anarchist, you really shouldn't
be whining about it. Adapt or die is what I would presume your usual
motto would be in this 'free market'.
>
>Well, if they failed to realise that the choice is to
>- either sell gcc or
>- develop a better alternative,
>they deserved to die.
It will be interesting to see how Metrowerks does.
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From: Ian Hay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: converting ps to pdf
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:07:43 GMT
Neil Zanella wrote:
>
> On Wed, 28 Apr 1999, Ian Hay wrote:
> > ftp://ftp.x.org/contrib/applications/pstoedit/pstoedit.html
> > pstoedit -f pdf filename.ps filename.pdf
> > It works quite nicely.
>
> I downloaded this and tried it out. Unfortunately the program was unable
> to convert some fonts and mathematical symbols used within the document.
> The systems I have access to are Red Hat 5.1 systems. I know that those
> systems (unfortunately) do not come with a version of ghostscript
> containing the ps2pdf uttility.
Are you -sure- about the symbol and font problem? I converted some
documents with some odd symbols. Sure enough, when I viewed them in
Linux with xpdf, some symbols did not display properly, and were denoted
with a box. HOWEVER - when I booted into Windows and viewed the same
document with Acrobat, the document displayed perfectly. I can only
assume that your ultimate intention is to have them viewed in Windows,
so you might want to verify this.
I.
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Ian R. Hay <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Toronto, Canada <http://www3.sympatico.ca/ian.hay/>
"Linux already IS user-friendly ... it's just very picky
about who it makes friends with!" -- source unknown.
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From: "Cameron Spitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Some USR modems are MS-only, Re: [SURVEY] Who has an internal modem in his
linux box ?
Date: 29 Apr 1999 16:05:43 GMT
In article <7g93hb$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jan Johansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have a few USR 56k internal PnP's in som fax servers.. works flawlessly.
>
>
Be careful which model of USR modem you get for use with Linux.
Some work well, but others are useless "Winmodems."
3Com does not release the necessary information to make it possible
to write a Linux driver, even if you wanted to, and these modems cannot
be used with any non-Microsoft OS.
It would be good if 3Com would label its retail packaging clearly,
so we could know at point-of-sale which modems in its product line are
Microsoft-only.
Cameron
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From: Chad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: HELP! I can't compile and run
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:34:35 -0500
I was trying to upgrade my C++ libraries the easy way by installing the
Slackware ecgs package. After doing that, I couldn't run programs that I
compiled. I tried installing new versions of binutils and re-installing
gcc, but nothing seems to work.
When I run an ldd on a compiled program, I obtain the following (sample),
listing:
libc.so.6 => /usr/local/Office50/lib/libc.so.6 (0x40004000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.1 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x2aaaa000)
I realize that the last line is wrong, but I don't know how to fix it.
I'm currently running gcc 2.7.2.3, glibc 2.0.7pre6, kernel 2.2.2, and egcs
1.1.2.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Chad
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From: Gerald Willmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: converting ps to pdf
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:36:15 -0700
On Thu, 29 Apr 1999, Ian Hay wrote:
Ian: thanks for pointing out pstoedit - downloaded it but still have to
compile it. From the docs it seems that the author/maintainer would be
rather willing to discuss/fix any potential problems
> document with Acrobat, the document displayed perfectly. I can only
> assume that your ultimate intention is to have them viewed in Windows,
> so you might want to verify this.
your assumption as to my (our?) ultimate intentions is way off, however.
If I convert to PDF then because the P stands for portable, ie a cross
platform format.
Gerald
PS: Why don't you use acroread under linux, btw?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jedi)
Crossposted-To:
microsoft.public.windowsnt.misc,microsoft.public.windowsnt.setup,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,micorosft.public.outlook
Subject: Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment....
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:31:08 -0700
On Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:03:36 GMT, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Sun, 28 Mar 1999 12:03:22 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stuart
>Summerville) wrote:
>
> I have 5 NT servers, one AIX and one Linux. I understand that NT is
>as stable as a tin legged deer in a rain storm, but what can Linux
>promote in office conditions. With Exchange, Office XX, Outlook etc...
>I can use Linux as a great Web server and a great firewall but for
>standard user interactions NT has got the most homogeneous enviorment.
And just why do you need your mailserver (or HELL, even your
fileserver) to be NT?
>Hopefully oneday my users can either be unix gurus, then I never have
>to come into work and just let the servers run for 6 months at a time,
>or NT will make a stable server. I suspect I better get them trained
>on unix!!!.
That's the beauty of multiuser, remote admin systems, you
don't have to teach the drones anything. Just create a
reference desktop and clone it.
Furthermore, there is nothing inherent to the Office+Outlook
combination that is any more 'homogeneous' than any other
standard office enviroment regardless of platform.
It makes you subseptable to the Melissa virus and able to
deal with Office<thisyear> files and that's about it.
--
Microsoft subjected the world to DOS until 1995. |||
A little spite is more than justified. / | \
In search of sane PPP Docs? Try http://penguin.lvcm.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Keven R. Pittsinger)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Stoopid Knews Question
Date: 29 Apr 1999 20:28:42 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Got a weirdie for ya.
I got Knews 1.0b1 up and running. I had the editor rigged to put my
*correct* email address in the From: line and it worked.
Then I changed providers and can't remember what file needs tweaking to
fix the From: line again. Any clues?
Keven
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Automating Dynamic DNS Registration after PPP
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:39:04 GMT
Hi,
I've setup my Linux box with a dyanic dns and have gotten it to update the
dynamic DNS server manually. I'd, ideally, like to have this happen
automatically each time my ISP kicks off my connection and PPP redials. It
is a simple perl script that registers the IP. Where would be the best place
to put a call to this script?
thanks,
Bill
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From: "Jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment....
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:37:58 -0500
Crossposted-To:
microsoft.public.windowsnt.misc,microsoft.public.windowsnt.setup,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,micorosft.public.outlook
Ok. We have all heard this garbage over and over again. Why do people
continuously have to do this? Please stop wasting everyone's time and
bandwidth.
Thanks,
Jim
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From: Greg Yantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: FSF capitalist visionaries? (Was Re: GNU reeks of Communism)
Date: 29 Apr 1999 17:26:25 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus) writes:
> > > I haven't yet read anyone mentioning the suffering caused by
> > > "GNU Communism".
> >
> > For example, no longer can companies make money selling a UNIX port
> > or a C++ compiler, now that gcc and Linux is freely spreading like
> > gonorrhea.
That isn't quite true. If it were true, could you explain why?
> Of course they can. They can sell gcc. What do you think Cygnus make a
> living of?
> > Those companies once used to provide jobs and salaries, which are
> > now gone.
I've heard this sort of complaint before, and it got me to thinking.
You sound just like a protectionist. This got me to thinking about
efficiency, and free trade and economics in general.
First, some background. Please bear with me.
In short, the idea behind free trade is that some are better at doing
certain tasks, producing certain goods, than others. The free exchange
of goods (trade) allows the efficient to drive out the less efficient.
In theory, there may be some painful dislocations, but the overall
result is that everyone winds up wealthier due to the greater
availability of more efficiently produced stuff. In the past, new
technologies and new ways of doing things have changed or destroyed
entire industries, and it's still happening today. Many people have
gotten hurt, but we're all (in general) wealthier for it.
Protectionists tend to be apologists for the few who might get hurt-
they want the rest of us to (in effect) subsidize their inefficiency.
How does this relate the previous discussion?
> Well, if they failed to realise that the choice is to
> - either sell gcc or
> - develop a better alternative,
> they deserved to die.
True as far as it goes. The general case may (seems to be) that when code
is freely distributable and a certain starting threshold is passed , i.e.
there is a certain necessary initial codebase (akin to activation energy
for a chemical reaction), Open Source-type software development solves
problems and produces software more efficiently and more competitively
than closed source development. This seems to be a pleasant side-effect
of the FSF's goal of making software "free", such that once a problem
has been solved, it *stays* solved, and others are free to build upon
the previous work.
Now, Open Source software products, that can easily (and efficiently)
be tailored to fill customers' needs, and that must be done so
relatively cheaply (because others can easily do the same work to
fill the same need) would seem to spell the death of the traditional
software industry. The question is, is this bad?
If individuals and companies are able to avoid spending large sums of
money on software licenses for closed source software, if they are
able to avoid the Software Tax(tm) by using open source alternatives
(and sometimes funding new solutions that are then added to the
global pool of "solved software problems"!), they effectively become
richer. This money does not just go away because it didn't get spent
on software licenses. It *will* get spent elsewhere, improving the
quality of the lives of those who avoided the Software Tax, and
perhaps funding new industries and techcologies to benefit us all.
Now, about those poor, starving programmers- right now is already
an amazing amount of pent-up demand for the services of skilled
programmers. If some software companies go bust because open source
derailed their gravy train, there is other work ready and waiting
for their programmers. There are other problems that need to be solved,
the money to finance those solutions is still out there- you just need
to work harder to *earn* it.
"GNU Communism" isn't killing the software industry, but the new
way of doing things may force that industry to become more efficient
and more competitive. New techniques, technologies and processes have
revolutionized industries before; this is a good thing. We tend to
call it "progress".
-Greg
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From: Marty Phee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
microsoft.public.windowsnt.misc,microsoft.public.windowsnt.setup,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,micorosft.public.outlook
Subject: Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment....
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:45:54 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>With Exchange, Office XX, Outlook etc...
Have you looked at Applix, StarOffice and Corel WorkPerfect. Soon Corel
is supposed to have there suite of applications on linux.
Using Samba there's no reason why linux can't be your file and print
servers. Much more stable and faster.
Chris wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Mar 1999 12:03:22 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stuart
> Summerville) wrote:
>
> I have 5 NT servers, one AIX and one Linux. I understand that NT is
> as stable as a tin legged deer in a rain storm, but what can Linux
> promote in office conditions. With Exchange, Office XX, Outlook etc...
> I can use Linux as a great Web server and a great firewall but for
> standard user interactions NT has got the most homogeneous enviorment.
> Hopefully oneday my users can either be unix gurus, then I never have
> to come into work and just let the servers run for 6 months at a time,
> or NT will make a stable server. I suspect I better get them trained
> on unix!!!.
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From: "Anthony J. Gabrielson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Xfree Matrox Mil
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:02:56 -0400
What distribution are you running? SuSE has really good tools for getting
x running on newer cards. if your not running SuSE check there ftp out.
get stuff like sax and there drivers.
Anthony
On 29 Apr 1999, Zdravko Balorda wrote:
> Hi,
> I am having a headache with Xfree 3.3.3 and Matrox
> Millenium G200 AGP card. It says PCI should work
> with svga server. Is that good enough for AGP?
>
> Zdravko.
>
>
>
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From: "Bleh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: My new Apsfilter-created /etc/printcap - How do I use the "RAW" device
with the Epson Stylus COLOR ESC/P 2 driver on NT via Samba?
Crossposted-To:
comp.protocols.smb,linux.samba,linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.hardware,alt.linux,alt.os.linux,microsoft.public.windowsnt.print,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.misc,microsoft.public.windowsnt.misc
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 21:04:46 GMT
Dr H. T. Leung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in article
<7g9u3r$goj$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>
> "lpr -Praw yourfile"
>
> Don't people read manuals many more? "man lpr" for details.
Don't people read others' USENET posts any more? (You spelled "any" wrong,
by the way.) If you would have read my other posts, you would have seen
that 1) I am printing from a Windows machine, and 2) I was able to get the
"raw" printer device configured via Samba like I wanted. The problem still
remains that lpr is not even printing anything at all, even though the
daemon process is running*.
* = fixed now
Here is my /var/spool/lpd/uniprint-letter-auto-color/log :
/tmp/apsfilter/filter/aps-uniprint-letter-auto-color: /tmp/.echotmp:
Permission denied
/tmp/apsfilter/filter/aps-uniprint-letter-auto-color:
/tmp/aps_header.32746: Permission denied
/tmp/apsfilter/filter/aps-uniprint-letter-auto-color: /dev/console:
Permission denied
rm: cannot remove `/tmp/aps_header.32746': No such file or directory
As you can see, the problem with the printtool Postscript Test was that
/tmp needed to have write access for non-root users. I fixed that problem
just now, and was able to print a Postscript Test page just fine.
I just tried printing a test page from my Windows machine with both
suggested Apple LaserWriter drivers, as well as the Epson Stylus COLOR
ESC/P 2 driver, and none were successful.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jedi)
Crossposted-To:
microsoft.public.windowsnt.misc,microsoft.public.windowsnt.setup,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,micorosft.public.outlook
Subject: Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment....
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 14:24:35 -0700
On Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:37:58 -0500, Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Ok. We have all heard this garbage over and over again. Why do people
>continuously have to do this? Please stop wasting everyone's time and
>bandwidth.
NO. This 'must run Microsoft apps' gibberish is as much a
problem for Windows users as it is for a Linux advocate.
Even on Windows there's more than just Exchange or Office.
The assertion that some arbitrary office should be limited
to either should never go unchallenged.
--
Microsoft subjected the world to DOS until 1995. |||
A little spite is more than justified. / | \
In search of sane PPP Docs? Try http://penguin.lvcm.com
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From: jmsalvo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Are there other ports of java in linux?
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 20:34:07 GMT
Are there other ports of java, other than the one being done by blackdown.org,
in linux?
John Salvo
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From: Ewan Dunbar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to "GNU Communism")
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:39:13 -0400
On Wed, 28 Apr 1999, Jim Brooks wrote:
> For example, no longer can companies make money selling a UNIX port
> or a C++ compiler, now that gcc and Linux is freely spreading like gonorrhea.
> Those companies once used to provide jobs and salaries, which are now gone.
>
> (If you live in an advanced democratic/capitalistic nation...)
> Should we write to our congressman about stopping this new technocommunism?
>
> Any (on-topic) comments for/against "GNU Communism"?
Yes. As the thread has mentioned before, there are areas in which
capitalistic ideas simply do not work. Technology is one of them,
especially computing. While it has a few meagre benefits, on the whole,
capitalism gets computers nowhere.
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Ewan Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Aaron Dershem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Kernel 2.2.X rpm
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:30:45 -0500
Any word on when Red Hat will release a 2.2.X kernel RPM? I downloaded the
source files from kernel.org, but I'd rather have a painless, no-brainer
upgrade.
Aaron.
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