Linux-Misc Digest #988, Volume #18 Thu, 11 Feb 99 17:13:15 EST
Contents:
Help configure cron ("Lee Allen")
Diamond Monster MX 300 Sound Card (MegaSurge)
cannot install qmail as an rpm ("Anne Edwards")
util-linux >= 2.9g as rpm? ("G. Pollack")
util-linux >=2.9g as rpm? ("G. Pollack")
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters ("Steve Cyr")
Trouble detecting ModemBlaster Modem under Linux (Stephen Proctor)
The Importance of Stable URLs. (Fred Flatstone)
SuSE / F-keys over telnet (Tobin Fricke)
Re: how to compile and run a c program in linux? (Timothy J. Lee)
What are /boot/System.map* and /boot/module-info* ? (Terry Husie)
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters (Eugene O'Neil)
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: I NEED HELP TOO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (fernando)
Re: StarOffice vs. Applixware vs. WordPerfect (Richard Steiner)
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Richard Steiner)
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From: "Lee Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help configure cron
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 04:15:42 -0500
I've got a real basic question about configuring cron. I am using Caldera
Linux 1.2, with the 2.0.33 kernel.
/etc/crontab as shipped by Caldera contains lots of nifty cleanup stuff.
But I don't think they are actually running.
After reading the man pages for cron and crontab, I think I am supposed
to....
"crontab -u root -l" to see the cron table for entries that are schedule to
be run as root (there aren't any)
"crontab -u root /etc/crontab" to 'load' the entries from /etc/crontab into
the cron table
After doing these steps, and then running the first command again to see
what is in the cron table... I don't think it's right. All of the comment
entries in the /etc/crontab file appear in the crontab output.
Am I missing something? Or did I do it right, and crontab preserves the
comments?
-Lee Allen
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From: MegaSurge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Diamond Monster MX 300 Sound Card
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:43:06 -0800
Does anyone know if this sound card can work with linux? It doesn't
specifically say in the hardware compatibility but it is SB compatible.
Of course, that doesn't neccessarily mean it will work. Just curious
thanks.
"If there is a *quintessential zone of human privacy* it is the mind."
If you wish to send me a message using PGP my key is located here:
http://www.teleport.com/~megasurg/pgpmegasurg
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From: "Anne Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: cannot install qmail as an rpm
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 17:42:34 -0000
Hi,
I am trying to rebuild a qmail rpm on redhat linux 5.1. I have read
carefully all the instructions I can get my hands on, but it just stops
before it can build the rpm. Prior to building I have checked functions,
daemontools + patches, ucspi-tcp have been installed. Can anyone offer any
solution why this is happening - or how I find out what is going wrong. The
rpm was downloaded from
http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~bguenter/distrib/qmail+patches/1.03/
Any help very much appreciated
Anne.
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From: "G. Pollack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: util-linux >= 2.9g as rpm?
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 15:51:05 -0500
I've just upgraded to kernel 2.2.1, and as a result I need to upgrade
util-linux. This was installed originally from an rpm, and I'd like to
keep it that way so that future redhat upgrades won't be more difficult
than necessary. So far I've only been able to find this in source
format. Can anyone point me to binaries, in rpm format?
Thanks,
--
Gerald Pollack
Dept. of Biology, McGill University
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From: "G. Pollack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: util-linux >=2.9g as rpm?
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 15:53:20 -0500
I've upgraded to kernel 2.2.1, and now I need to update util-linux to
2.9g or better. So far I've only been able to find this as source; can
anyone point me to binaries packaged as rpm? (I've looked at redhats
updates, and it's not there).
Thanks,
--
Gerald Pollack
Dept. of Biology, McGill University
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From: "Steve Cyr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:32:27 -0800
Sheri Doherty wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>
>
>Io wrote:
>
>> > the
>> > biggest hurdle in the Manhattan Project was likely just figuring out
how
>> > to 1) isolate the pure form of uranium needed, and 2) figiuring out how
>> > to design an enclosure to facilitate said slamming of pieces together).
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > Paul Doherty
>>
>> It was my understanding the largest issue was the design of the shaped
>> charges and the critical nature of getting them to detonate at the exact
>> same time to "crunch" the uranium to critical mass.
>
>I believe then that you just agreed with me... no? :-)
>
Yes, he did.
>Paul
>
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From: Stephen Proctor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux
Subject: Trouble detecting ModemBlaster Modem under Linux
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 13:18:19 -0800
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Greetings,
I am having a terrible time trying to get my Linux OS to recognize my internal
modem blaster 56K PCI modem. I don't believe it is a Winmodem as it has a 16550A
UART chip and does not specify that Win95 is required, etc.
I am running RedHat Linux 5.1 (kernel 2.0.34)
Some of the things I have tried:
o I have tried using the pnpdump utility to "find" the modem, but to no avail.
o Also, setserial does not detect it either. Not suprisingly, the minicom program
also is not able to communicate with it.
o I doubt that there is any interrupt conflict. I have disabled all other serial
ports (in the BIOS) except COM1 which is used for the mouse.
I don't see an interrupt 3 under the /proc/interrupts output, which is what I
would have expected for the modem.
Has anyone out there gotten the ModemBlaster modem to work under Linux?
If so, please show me the light!
Thanks for any help that comes my way.
Regards, Steve
PS: I have attached output from /proc/pci, /proc/interrupts, and dmesg. Maybe
someone can spot the problem from this information.
# cat /proc/pci
PCI devices found:
Bus 0, device 16, function 0:
Serial controller: Unknown vendor Unknown device (rev 1).
Vendor id=127a. Device id=1005.
Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. IRQ 10. Master Capable.
Latency=64.
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xfffb0000.
Bus 0, device 13, function 0:
Display controller: Texas Instruments TVP4020 Permedia 2 (rev 1).
Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. IRQ 11. Master Capable.
Latency=66. Min Gnt=192.Max Lat=192.
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xffbc0000.
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xff000000.
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xfe800000.
Bus 0, device 8, function 0:
VGA compatible controller: ATI 215CT222 (rev 9).
Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. IRQ 254.
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xfb000000.
I/O at 0xfc00.
Bus 0, device 7, function 0:
ISA bridge: Intel 82371 Triton PIIX (rev 2).
Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. Master Capable. No bursts.
Bus 0, device 0, function 0:
Host bridge: Intel 82437 (rev 2).
Medium devsel. Master Capable. Latency=64.
# cat /proc/interrupts
0: 381507 timer
1: 2511 keyboard
2: 0 cascade
4: 6984 + serial
8: 1 + rtc
13: 1 math error
14: 27673 + ide0
15: 0 + ide1
# dmesg
Console: 16 point font, 400 scans
Console: colour VGA+ 80x25, 1 virtual console (max 63)
pcibios_init : BIOS32 Service Directory structure at 0x000fc600
pcibios_init : BIOS32 Service Directory entry at 0xfc610
pcibios_init : PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfc631
Probing PCI hardware.
Calibrating delay loop.. ok - 52.84 BogoMIPS
Memory: 63160k/65536k available (732k kernel code, 384k reserved, 1260k data)
Swansea University Computer Society NET3.035 for Linux 2.0
NET3: Unix domain sockets 0.13 for Linux NET3.035.
Swansea University Computer Society TCP/IP for NET3.034
IP Protocols: IGMP, ICMP, UDP, TCP
VFS: Diskquotas version dquot_5.6.0 initialized
Checking 386/387 coupling... Ok, fpu using exception 16 error reporting.
Checking 'hlt' instruction... Ok.
Intel Pentium with F0 0F bug - workaround enabled.
alias mapping IDT readonly ... ... done
Linux version 2.0.34 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.7.2.3) #1 Fri May 8
16:05:57 EDT 1998
Starting kswapd v 1.4.2.2
Serial driver version 4.13 with no serial options enabled
tty00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
Real Time Clock Driver v1.07
Ramdisk driver initialized : 16 ramdisks of 4096K size
ide: i82371 PIIX (Triton) on PCI bus 0 function 57
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xffa0-0xffa7
ide1: BM-DMA at 0xffa8-0xffaf
hda: Maxtor 90720D5, 6869MB w/256kB Cache, CHS=875/255/63, DMA
hdb: ST33240A, 3077MB w/0kB Cache, CHS=781/128/63
hdd: BCD 20XB CD-ROM, ATAPI CDROM drive
ide2: ports already in use, skipping probe
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M, fd1 is 1.2M
FDC 0 is a National Semiconductor PC87306
md driver 0.35 MAX_MD_DEV=4, MAX_REAL=8
scsi : 0 hosts.
scsi : detected total.
Partition check:
hda: hda1 hda2 < hda5 hda6 > hda3 hda4
hdb: hdb1 hdb2 < hdb5 hdb6 hdb7 hdb8 >
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
Adding Swap: 96732k swap-space (priority -1)
sysctl: ip forwarding off
Swansea University Computer Society IPX 0.34 for NET3.035
IPX Portions Copyright (c) 1995 Caldera, Inc.
Appletalk 0.17 for Linux NET3.035
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From: Fred Flatstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: The Importance of Stable URLs.
Date: 10 Feb 1999 09:41:32 -0800
Linux Web Masters: Please do your fellows and all WWW users a big
favor and try your best to avoid changing the URLs of your pages.
If you have anything interesting, you can be sure that people will
bookmark your page or put links to in in their own pages.
It's a huge pain for others when you break thier links. If you must,
you must, but please think of the consquences before doing so. We're
talking tens, hundreds, thousands of wasted hours here.
If you change path names, try to hide the fact using links.
If you're an ISP hopper, use one of the free or cheap dynamic domain
services or this particularly interesting free service. You don't get
your own domain, just a sort of link between their directory tree and
yours. They sound "persistant". Their org is associated with Libraries,
etc.I haven't tried them, but I think I will. They're called PURL
(Persistant URL) and are at:
http://purl.oclc.org
Examples of often worse-than-worthless unnecessary changes:
-- Home page changed from index.htm to index.html or home.html
-- Changed spelling like speler.html to speller.html.
-- ISP hopping.
-- Changed words like /searcher/ for /locator/. (Actual example.)
-- Changed hierarchies like /breadbaskets/ to /baskets/bread/.
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From: Tobin Fricke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: SuSE / F-keys over telnet
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:15:14 -0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SuSE's YaST program uses the function keys (F1 -> F10). How can I use
these keys though a telnet/ssh connection (with, say, Van Dyke
SecureCRT)?
Tobin Fricke / [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy J. Lee)
Subject: Re: how to compile and run a c program in linux?
Reply-To: see-signature-for-email-address---junk-not-welcome
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 19:56:56 GMT
<@erols.com> writes:
|How do i compile and run a c program in linux?
|Tried cc hello.c and a.out, but get an error a.out
|command not found...
Does ./a.out execute your program?
. (current directory) may not be in your PATH environment variable.
If not, then you need to say ./program to execute a program in the
current directory, unless the current directory happens to be one
that is in your PATH.
Putting . in the PATH may be a security hazard, especially for the
root account, and especially if it is at the beginning of the PATH.
--
========================================================================
Timothy J. Lee timlee@
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From: Terry Husie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: What are /boot/System.map* and /boot/module-info* ?
Date: 10 Feb 1999 09:50:15 -0800
Red Hat only, I suspect. They are re-linked from /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit,
but I can't find where they are used.
What programs use them?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eugene O'Neil)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 99 17:54:51 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>It was the Mon, 08 Feb 1999 21:44:08 GMT...
>...and [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Gee...can anyone tell me the difference between a vacuum tube and an
>> electronic valve? I always thought they were the same. You say elevator, I
>> say lift.
>
>ISTR the British say "valve" and the Americans say "vacuum tube". I
>like valve better because it describes the function, not just the
>looks.
You could also say it describes the interface, instead of the
implementation... :-)
-Eugene
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 17:47:30 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Paul Doherty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> <SNIP>
> > computer/calculator that Richard Feynmann and crew cobbled together to
> > perform calculations that formed the basis for the atomic bomb. This device
> > was a combination of IBM adders, multipliers, paper tape readers/punchers
and
> > probably some other devices. This was assembled and operated between Fall
of
> > 1943 and (probably) spring of 1945. Since the setup itself was
unclassified,
> > it fell into obscurity primarily because the men who assembled it were
> > pursuing a much more difficult goal than making a computing machine. It was
> > merely a tool that had to be built in order to achieve a desired result.
>
> Guess it depends on how you describe "difficult". Since they weren't
> aiming for general-purpose then I'd agree, but there's nothing all so
> terribly difficult about the concepts of fission, and slamming two
> sub-critical pieces of said material together. I'd consider a computer
> a far more complex piece of work if for no other reason than it doesn't
> happen as a function of nature (while the fissioning process is
> completely automatic once the pieces are brought into proximity - the
> biggest hurdle in the Manhattan Project was likely just figuring out how
> to 1) isolate the pure form of uranium needed, and 2) figiuring out how
> to design an enclosure to facilitate said slamming of pieces together).
>
Oh, boy. How clear is hindsight. What is "obvious" now wasn't obvious at
all back then. Theoretical nuclear physics wasn't in quite as good shape
back then to predict what would happen when you achieved critical mass.
Remember they had to collect some empirical data by temporarily creating
critical or subcritical mass? That was to verify theory. And remember also
they had no computers sufficient to the task of figuring out what happened
AFTER the critical mass was brought together. Did the chain reaction just
blow away most of the fissile material? Were high explosives sufficient to
create a critical mass from a subcritical one? (Plutonium, here) You should
also note that there were some prominent physicists that thought perhaps a
nuclear explosion could start a (chemical) process that could burn the entire
atmosphere from the Earth. Also, the process by which Uranium was purified
was not at all simple. Even the guys at Oak Ridge didn't understand the
critical mass problem and were in substantial danger of inadvertently placing
too much fissile material together, which Feynman notes in his books. Not
meaning to flame you here, I just thought you trivialized the effort a bit.
It should be noted that today's more efficient (I hate to use that word in
this context, but there it is) nuclear weapons are possible because we have
better computers AND a better understanding of the theoretical physics. The
Hiroshima and Nagasaki weapons used only about 0.1% of their fissionable
material.
On another tack, the Little Boy used Uranium, which achieved critical mass by
colliding two subcritical masses of U-235. The arrangement necessitated an
oblong shape of the bomb, hence Little Boy vs. Fat Man. Fat Man imploded
sections of P-239 onto some core material to achieve criticality. Since P-239
was MUCH easier to make than U-235, this was the material of preference. Why
did we drop 2 bombs instead of 1? I don't know. This is probably one for the
history books to disagree on.
Anyway, the reason I brought this up in the first place is that scientists
had cobbled something together that, while not exactly a computer, was a
computing machine. This machine was probably dismantled without regard to
its historical significance, although probably not for reasons of
classification as was Colossus. As Mr Powe pointed out, and this is
supported by some evidence, Colossus was the first computer of its kind in
the world. My disagreement with him was on the issue of invention, not who
built the first one. I apologize to Mr. Powe for the rather unpleasant tone
of some of my previous comments. That's all I have to say about this topic.
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From: fernando <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I NEED HELP TOO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:42:47 +0500
here is my /etc/fstab:
/dev/hda2 / ext2 defaults
1 1
#/dev/hda1 /win msdos defaults
0 0
/dev/hda1 /win vfat defaults 0
0
/dev/hda3 swap swap defaults
0 0
/dev/fd0 /floppy vfat noauto
0 0
#/dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy ext2 noauto
0 0
/dev/cdrom /cdrom iso9660 noauto,ro 0 0
#/dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom iso9660 noauto,ro
0 0
none /proc proc defaults
0 0
see the vfat part (line 3).
the directory /win must exist.
if you have fat32 you need a latest kernel compiled with vfat support.
for the second fat32 partition you have to create a new directory,
create a new entry in the /etc/fstab and use the device /dev/hda2
hope this helps.
Philipp Heise wrote:
>
> a simple question :
>
> how to mount a win 98 harddisk ?
> win 98 = 1.Partition of first Disk (FAT 32)
> programms = 2.Partition of first Disk (FAT 32)
> linux = disk number 2
>
> THANKS !!! :)
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Real email: sanabriaf at yahoo dot com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Subject: Re: StarOffice vs. Applixware vs. WordPerfect
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 01:07:24 -0600
Here in comp.os.linux.misc, [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake unto us, saying:
>I've been browsing around trying to decide which of the "big three" office
>application suites to go with and install on my system (StarOffice,
>Applixware, or WordPerfect). However, I haven't been able to find much
>information on the ability of ANY of these programs to import, convert, or
>work with Microsoft Office documents.
It seems to be very difficult for third parties to create effective
import/export filters for Word, which makes it very difficult at times
when one's coworkers use such documents all the time.
I've imported Word 95 documents just fine in StarOffice, but those were
relatively simply documents which used tables and normal paragraphs,
but I have no idea how well it handles other document formats.
--
-Rich Steiner >>>---> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>---> Bloomington, MN
OS/2 + Linux (Slackware+RedHat+SuSE) + FreeBSD + Solaris +
WinNT4 + Win95 + PC/GEOS + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven!
Gravity: Not just a good idea, it's the law
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 00:44:41 -0600
Here in comp.os.linux.misc, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason T. Nelson)
spake unto us, saying:
>According to Ken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>> Ken Pizzini wrote:
>> -- snip --
>> > Was this based on some *real* issue(s) with Linux, or just a
>> > blind presupposition that "Linux is merely a hobbyist OS"?
>> > I am at a loss to think of how Linux would be a security
>> > risk in a manner that FreeBSD would not also be.
>> >
>> It was probably B.I.F. - believing in FUD.
>
>Maybe they read bugtraq.
There are bugs for all UNIX flavors listed in BUGTRAQ, and I'm not sure
that Linux receives any more reports than others do. Of course, I've
onlt been reading it a short while...
--
-Rich Steiner >>>---> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>---> Bloomington, MN
OS/2 + Linux (Slackware+RedHat+SuSE) + FreeBSD + Solaris +
WinNT4 + Win95 + PC/GEOS + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven!
Darn, these socks have a hole in them.
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