Linux-Misc Digest #988, Volume #20               Sat, 10 Jul 99 09:13:08 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Question about mail. (Stephen Chadfield)
  mtrr (mini) HOWTO ? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: computer literacy (was 'Linux viruses' or something) (Andres Soolo)
  Re: My Linux box was hacked! (mist)
  Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (Jim Henderson)
  Re: linx vs hurd (Andres Soolo)
  Re: dumb question (Mark Brown)
  Re: HELP, someone, please. :) (Mark Brown)
  Re: Problems with ATI Mach64 on RH 6.0 (Michael McConnell)
  Re: linx vs hurd (wiliam choehen)
  Kppp/pppd probs ("Al Kooz")
  NO 'core' file when C program seg faults??? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  problem compiling a cross compiler ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (Anthony Ord)
  Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (Anthony Ord)
  kppp and Netscape (Can't connect) ("Spotillius Maximus aka \"Spot\"")

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From: Stephen Chadfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Question about mail.
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 09:28:58 +0100

rob wrote:
> 
> This is just a strange little one...
> I read most of my mail off of another linux server which is running an
> older slack dist.
> When i log in... and whenever i'm doing anything, whenever i get new mail,
> it informs me by flashing half the message on the screen and dosen't go
> away untill i refresh... this gets really annoying, especially with the
> volume of mail that's been coming in lately.  Is there any way to turn this
> off?  It's quite annoying being in mutt and be told that you've got mail 8
> different times ;)  (btw... hushlogin dosen't do it)

This is not something Linux does. It is one of your applications. Find
out which one and stop running it.

-- 
Stephen Chadfield
http://www.aquamarine.demon.co.uk/

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: mtrr (mini) HOWTO ?
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 10:08:38 GMT

Could some knowledgeable people write a mtrr mini HOWTO with real (not
theoretical) examples for each supported processor, comprehensive but
not too technical, understandable for those who can't read the source
code ?

I have been trying to set up MTRRs for K6-III for a while, but am always
in doubt whether the setup is properly done or not.


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From: Andres Soolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: computer literacy (was 'Linux viruses' or something)
Date: 10 Jul 1999 10:40:20 GMT

Binesh Bannerjee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Philip Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : Unless you are driving illegally, you ARE "auto literate", in the sense of
> : purely opreating the thing, at least. That's why they have driver's
> : licenses,ya know.
> So, you're suggesting computer user licenses?

By the way, there is such thing as ECDL (European Computer Driving
Licence).  Don't know about the other regions.

> If you are... Well...  I could go on and on, about you have
> driver licenses because the consequence of not following
> rules is death or injury to _other_ drivers. But, this argument
> (that of requiring people to get licensed to browse websites, or
> use Wordperfect) is so asinine as not to warrant a serious
> response, so I won't.

People are not required by law to have CDLs to browse web or
use Word Perfect for their own purposes, just as people are not
required to have drivers' licences to drive in a private farm.

ECDLs are considered some kind of certification that the person
really can do some thing he claims (for example, using word processor).
It seems that in our region most companies will look for ECDL-d
people in a year or so.  (Even my old school required a teacher
(she used to teach kids mswnt and msoffice ... I don't know what
the subject is called in English, but it's not compsci) to get at
least 4 ECDL modules or quit :)  And, there are companies with a
policy to raise the support price by 20-30% if the person to be
supported haven't passed specific ECDL modules.

Not following rules in driving can cause death or injury to other
drivers, yes.  And not following rules in computing can cause
loss of data and/or money.  And sometimes death too ...
(a case comes into mind where every patient put into a certain
bed in a certain room in a hospital (was it in England?) died
in the night before Friday.  The reason: a room-tidier came
every Friday 6 a. m., unplugged the patient's life-tracking system
from wall outlet and plugged the vacuum-cleaner in.)

> If you are not suggesting computer user licenses, but are
> simply saying that knowing how to drive and get from point
> A to point B constitutes being "auto literate" but, they'd
> have to know how to drive in icy weather, rainy weather,
> know how to handle a spinout, etc. I'd have to say again
> most licensed drivers are _not_ "auto literate" by your
> definition.
Depends on region.  When there are no icy weather, then there
is no need to know how to drive in icy weather to be
a car literate.

Apparently most licenced drivers know how to get from point A to
point B, no matter what weather.  Otherwise, there were
much more car wreckages.  Can you name an area where
50%+ drivers have caused traffic accidents?  Please ignore
the African countries where are only three cars, two of which
bumped into each other the second day they came inside the
country.

> If you are not suggesting computer user licenses, but are
> saying that simply knowing how to drive and get from point
> A to point B constitutes being "auto literate" even if only
> under "normal road conditions" then I'd agree. But, then
There is a problem: what is considered `normal road conditions'?

> why must "auto literacy" be so all inclusive, but "computer
> literacy" be so exclusive? Why is it not enough to know
> how to send email to friends in Belgium, write resumes
> and do taxes on the computer not sufficient to call oneself
> "computer literate"?
Ahem ... why is it not enough to know how to write A, L and O
to call oneself writing literate?

If you know how to send emails, you can call yourself email literate.
If you know how to write resumes, you can call yourself word processing
literate.
If you know how to do taxes, you can call yourself taxpaying literate.

But if you don't know what to do in special cases that happen, such
as a virus accident or BSOD on MSOSed PCs or the `Quota exceeded'
message on a multiuser-OS, then you are not computer literate.
IMhO, these are quite normal cases.

-- 
Andres Soolo   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
This letter is best used chilled.

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From: mist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.security.unix
Subject: Re: My Linux box was hacked!
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 12:05:10 +0100
Reply-To: mist <new$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Chris Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribed to us that -
>I was apparently (successfully) attacked by a hacker, who created accounts
>(dave and ddave) on my Linux box with root access, and then modified my
>files (don't know how or why).  What flaws in the version of Redhat Linux
>that I was using were exploited (I use 5.1), and are they known?  Can I fix
>the damage that was done easily?  I removed telnet and ftp from inetd.conf
>to completely disallow telnet and ftp access as a result of this attack;
>is this adequate?
>

No, not really.

So you removed Telnet but left in imapd and rshd?  If I were you, I'd
comment out everything from /etc/inetd.conf and then only add in
services that you know you need.  

You'll also need to reinstall the box *whilst you're offline*.  The
modified files changed many of the system commands like login and so-on
so that the hacker can get back in again.  You'll need to put that
right, and the only really safe way is to scrub the box and start again.  

You should also check the Redhat errata to upgrade the components that
the hacker exploited.  If you're still using the original 5.1 components
then you'll need to upgrade a fair few bits, especially imapd if you
need that.

Some of his actions were obvious, but that doesn't mean that others
were.
-- 
Mist.

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From: Jim Henderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.networking,omp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark?
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 09:51:32 -0600

Not sure how this relates to Linux, but...

Let's see:

US
Canada
Japan
Australia
China
Cuba (Beat the Baltamore O's in Baltamore a couple months ago)
Korea (the South Korean team was just here in Utah playing the US team)

Yup, just North American countries. ;-)

Jim

Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> 
> On 8 Jul 1999 16:28:22 GMT, Fredrich P. Maney wrote:
> >In comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix Jon Skeet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >Well considering that outside of Japan, to my knowledge the US and
> >Canada are the only places where Baseball is played. The governing
> 
> Also played in Australia, though cricket has the lions share of popularity.
> 
> I think ( but aren't sure ... have to ask my g/f ) that they play baseball
> in parts of China.
> 
> --
> Donovan

-- 
Jim Henderson
Novell Support Connection SysOp - http://support.novell.com/forums

Homepage at http://www.bigfoot.com/~jhenderson (email instructions
located here)

Please note that as an NSC SysOp, I do not provide support for Novell
products on a personal basis - if you need help with a Novell product,
please post a reply in the public newsgroup or visit the Novell support
forums at the URL above.

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From: Andres Soolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: linx vs hurd
Date: 10 Jul 1999 11:05:09 GMT

In comp.os.linux.misc Conway Yee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I wouldn't mind being proven wrong next year when:
>> - Debian/Hurd 1.0 is released, with great fanfare, 
>     ^^^^^^^^^^^

> Followed by an immediate missive from RMS declaring that the true
> name should be GNU/Debian/Hurd.
No, Debian GNU/Hurd.  The Debian Linux' full name is `Debian GNU/Linux'.
On the other hand, it would not be quite impossible to have a single
Debian operating system which allows you to choose which kernel
to use.  Diversity in unity :)

-- 
Andres Soolo        <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Below you can see an invisible tagline.

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From: Mark Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: dumb question
Date: 10 Jul 1999 12:21:38 +0100

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Mitchell) writes:

> I compiled a "hello, world" app w/ gcc in the /root directory (while logged in 
> as root) - gcc test.c, where test.c had this in it:

You should try to do the absolute minimum possible as root.  If you
work as a regular user, then the system can protect you from many
mistakes - you might damage your own data, but you are unlikely to
take out the entire system.  As root, most protections are disabled.
Some of programs will actually refuse to run as root.

> #include <stdio.h>

> int main()
> {
> fprint("hello");

That line should be either

  printf("hello");

or

  fprintf(stdout, "hello");


You probably also want a newline at the end of the string.

> return 0;
> }

> the compile goes fine, but when I run a.out by typing exec /root/a.out, I 
> immediately get a login prompt. ls says I have execute permission, but I set 

The reason nothing gets displayed is the error pointed out above.  The
reason you get logged out is that you execed it.  Exec doesn't just
run the program - it replaces the shell with the program.  As a
result, when your program fininshes, so does your login session.  Miss
out the exec and you'll be fine.

-- 
Mark Brown  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   (Trying to avoid grumpiness)
            http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/
EUFS        http://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/

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From: Mark Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HELP, someone, please. :)
Date: 10 Jul 1999 12:14:26 +0100

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rizwan Syed) writes:

>   1)  What file contains the POP3 server.  I need to start it so that
>   we can access our email through a Windows based POP3 client.

If you mean which package, then you need to tell us which distribution
you are using.  For RedHat, it's in the same RPM as the IMAP server
(search for IMAP in the name of the RPM if you're having trouble
finding it).  There is a selection included in Debian - see
http://www.debian.org/Packages/stable/net/ .

>   2)  I have a domaine  foo.com.  I also have a server, me.foo.com
>       I want people to be able to send me an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>       as well as [EMAIL PROTECTED]  and have both of them get the emails
>       to the server me.foo.com.  What do I need to do?  I think I need
>       to have my ISP do something to the DNS entry, but he says he's
>       done everything, but the email does not work.  It is currently 
>       working for @me.foo.com.  But the emails sent to @foo.com gets
>       a relaying error.  Anyone know what's up?

You really need to specify a lot more information than that.  What MTA
you are using for a start, and some details of the errors and relevant
configuration.  You probably need to configure the list of domains
which your MTA knows are local.

>   3)  Anyone know an ftp site where I could get SSH for linux?

Somewhere under ftp://ftp.replay.com/pub/crypto - the source should be
there, as should RPMs.  For Debian, the package is on
non-us.debian.org (accessable via FTP or HTTP).

-- 
Mark Brown  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   (Trying to avoid grumpiness)
            http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/
EUFS        http://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/

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From: Michael McConnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problems with ATI Mach64 on RH 6.0
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 19:19:14 +0100

On Fri, 9 Jul 1999, Brad Felmey wrote:

> On Fri, 09 Jul 1999 01:31:33 GMT, "Donald E. Stidwell"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
> 
>>Brad Felmey wrote:
>>
>>> You're not alone in this boat. My AGP Rage IIc 8MB does *horrid*
>>> things under RH6 X. I've pulled the current X and Mach64 server from
>>> Redhat's mirrors, but still terrible/borderline unusable. Time for a
>>> Matrox, I guess.
>>> --
>>> Brad Felmey
>>
>>I use a Rage IIc 4MB and had a devil of a time getting it to look right with
>>Xconfigurator. The solution for me was to use XF86Setup and select a lower
>>resolution monitor. Now I've got a very readable and stable 1024x768 at 16-bit
>>colour. This problem with the Rage IIc is exhibited in all the distro's I've
>>used and the solution is always the same: use XF86Setup instead of Xconfigurator
>>or SAX or whatever and choose a lower resolution monitor.
> 
> Well, I used XF86Setup, and deliberately chose a lower resolution
> monitor setting than I knew I had, but it looks.... well.....the same. <g>
> 
> It's wierd. The display just kind of "wraps" underneath itself on the
> right side of the screen at 1024x768. Oh, well, the Rage will make a
> nice addition to the local landfill. I have an extra PCI Matrox
> Millenium sitting around, and I'll just use it for now.

Odd. I had an ATI Rage IIc 4Mb PCI card, and it worked like a charm. No
problems at all. (Mind you, I used xf86config to set it up.) I don't use it
now due to a forced motherboard upgrade ... I now use an 8Mb ATI Rage Pro
Turbo AGP card.

-- Michael "Soruk" McConnell                       [Red Hat 6.0 Available!]
Eridani Star System  --  The Most Up-to-Date Red Hat Linux CDROMs Available
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.amush.cx/linux/   Fax: +44-8701-600807


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (wiliam choehen)
Subject: Re: linx vs hurd
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 12:08:42 GMT

but dont a new os make it more <<intresteing>> too put in new kind of
aplicaions ?
just like linux have network opertuntys and that linux are made
special too fit 486 hardware as windowes insnt'?
On 9 Jul 1999 04:09:45 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore) wrote:

>Although it will be addressing important concerns for this Internet
>(like quality of service and IPv6 compatibility), nothing planned has a
>thing to do with whether a microkernel is better than a monolithic
>kernel.  (Especially since loadable modules blur away some of the
>advantages of microkernels.)

EVRYTHING IS JUST A SATE OF MIND 

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From: "Al Kooz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,ch.comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.windows.x.kde,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat.ppp
Subject: Kppp/pppd probs
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 14:08:02 +0200

I'm trying to use kppp to connect to my ISP and it doesn't work. first it
dials then the usual noise, and then it says that pppd unexpectingly died
and I get disconnected. I don't know what to do, can anybody help me?

when I try to use the network configuration of Redhat, and activate the ppp
interface there, it dials the number to my ISP it connects, but then it just
sits there and waits and gets disconnected too after about 5 secs. in the
predefined script there it says:

Login:  10306
word:    *********
Timeout: 5 sec
~--

Please can anybody help me on either of those 2 probs I'd be happy to browse
the net on my box, no matter how !!

thx  Al




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: NO 'core' file when C program seg faults???
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 12:25:04 GMT

Hi

I would like to know if other people have had a similar experience such
that when my C/C++ programs seg faults and dies, there is NO core file
generated.  The msg at my shell prompt after my program has died is
simply:
    Segmentaion Fault

when I'm sure it should read a little more like:
    core dumped
    Segmentation Fault

I am currently running linux-2.0.37 with gcc-2.7.2.3 and libc.5.4.46

Can someone please tell me whether there is an option to stop a core
dump being produced, and where it can be set if it exists.  Otherwise,
any suggestions on ensure core file generation on seg faults would be
greately appreciated.

Thanks

fraf

ps - can people CC replies to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - thanks again


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: problem compiling a cross compiler
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 14:20:16 +0200

Hi !
            I wolud like to compile a cross compiler. I use the
egcs-1.1.2. src and when i isue the command
make LANGUAGES=c i get the following error:

rm -f tmplibgcc2.a
for name in _muldi3 _divdi3 _moddi3 _udivdi3 _umoddi3 _negdi2 _lshrdi3
_ashldi3
_ashrdi3 _ffsdi2 _udiv_w_sdiv _udivmoddi4 _cmpdi2 _ucmpdi2 _floatdidf
_floatdisf _fixunsdfsi _fixunssfsi _fixunsdfdi _fixdfdi _fixunssfdi
_fixsfdi _fixxfdi _fixunsxfdi _floatdixf _fixunsxfsi _fixtfdi
_fixunstfdi _floatditf __gcc_bcmp _varargs __dummy _eprintf _bb _shtab
_clear_cache _trampoline __main _exit _ctors _pure; \
do \
  echo ${name}; \
  /usr/src/egcscros/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/src/egcscros/gcc/ -O2
-DCROSS_COMPILE -DIN_GCC    -g -O2 -I./include  -fPIC -g1  -DIN_LIBGCC2
-D__GCC_FLOAT_NOT_NEEDED   -I. -I/usr/src/egcs-1.1.2/gcc
-I/usr/src/egcs-1.1.2/gcc/config -c -DL${name} \
      /usr/src/egcs-1.1.2/gcc/libgcc2.c -o ${name}.o; \
  if [ $? -eq 0 ] ; then true; else exit 1; fi; \
  i686-pc-linux-gnu-ar rc tmplibgcc2.a ${name}.o; \
  rm -f ${name}.o; \
done
_muldi3
/usr/src/egcs-1.1.2/gcc/libgcc2.c:41: stdlib.h: No such file or
directory
/usr/src/egcs-1.1.2/gcc/libgcc2.c:42: unistd.h: No such file or
directory
make[1]: *** [libgcc2.a] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/egcscros/gcc'
make: *** [all-gcc] Error 2

Can Anybody tell me why ? I use  Slackware 3.6.

Thank zou in advance and best regards
Sasa


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony Ord)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.networking,omp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark?
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 12:25:24 GMT

On 7 Jul 1999 18:38:32 GMT, "Fredrich P. Maney"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>[deletia]
>: After WWII, yes. Before that, you were NOT a "superpower". 
>: Your country was the only one in the northern hemishpere that was NOT
>: totally trashed in the war, therefore, you had no infrastructure to rebuild,
>: therefore, you had plenty of money to put elsewhere.
>
>Not true. Canada for example was in pretty good shape (I'm not sure if it
>was still subject to English rule at the time though). As for the superpower
>quip, the USA most definitely was a SuperPower by the time of WWII, we
>just weren't recognized as such by the arrogant Europeans who seemed to
>feel they had some Divine Destiny to rule the world.

This may have been because we were, at the time, ruling the
world.

>: The only countries that really BENEFITTED from the war were Germany and the
>: USA (Because it bumped the usa several rungs up the ladder of world power,
>: and everyone else down a couple.)

And Japan.

>Complete Bullshit. Even now Germany is *still* rebuilding and repairing
>from WWII. As for the USA benefitting from WWII, have you even *read*
>history concerning the war and just how many US troops died? If I remember
>the population numbers of England correctly, it was more than your entire 
>country (not just your combat dead, but your whole country).

Don't talk shite.

>: Our farmers feed the US
>: = population and 25% of the rest of the world. The American people
>: = freely give of their time and money to those less fortunate.
>
>: And people from other countries DON'T?
>
>Not in anywhere near the numbers that the US does they don't.

What numbers are these then?

>[deletia]
>
>: The rest of the world (tm) dates WWII as 1939 to 1945.
>
>Sources? I personally doubt that. I would be much more inclined to think
>that each country dated WWII as lasting for the time of their involvement
>in it. Just like the English do. Just like the US does.
>
>[deletia]
>
>fpsm

Regards

Anthony
-- 
=========================================
| And when our worlds                   |
| They fall apart                       |
| When the walls come tumbling in       |
| Though we may deserve it              |
| It will be worth it  - Depeche Mode   |
=========================================

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony Ord)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.networking,omp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark?
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 12:25:26 GMT

On 09 Jul 1999 13:47:07 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul
D. Smith) wrote:
>%% [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony Ord) writes:
>  >> Hmm.  So you're saying that without any participation by any
>  >> country on one side of the world, it's still a _world_ war?  Nice,
>  >> very nice.
>
>  ao> The Canadians were involved and sent soldiers. Perhaps
>  ao> you've heard of Canada?
>
>You're right; I should have stuck with my original comment and said
>s'thing like "without _hardly_ any participation".
>
>Yes, Canada declared war when Britain did.  But Canada had a standing
>army of only about 4,000 troops, they were still smarting from WWI and
>public opinion was still almost 3-1 against entering the war.  By the
>end of the war they had many more troops and made some important
>contributions, of course, but early they were hardly a factor, besides
>moral support (obviously I don't want to diminish any individual
>sacrifices and I'm sure there were many--we're talking solely about
>macro-level participation).

Well at least we now have you admitting Canada was involved,
and more importantly that Canada isn't in Europe.

>  >> Or, put another way, would you call a war that didn't involve _any_
>  >> European countries a world war?  Uh huh.
>
>  ao> No. All the continents need to be involved (even if only slightly
>  ao> - Antarctica doesn't count because there are no people there).
>
>Well, that's certainly one reasonable way to define it, I agree.
>
>Another might be that the top X military and/or economic powers had to
>be involved.  It's a good bet that, even back then, the U.S. would be
>included there even for relatively small values of X.

What if all the top X military and economic powers were all
in Europe? According to your definition a European War would
then become a world war. 

But, let's go with your definition. 

Q. When was the First World War? 

A. Sometime in the Napoleonic Era.

Regards

Anthony
-- 
=========================================
| And when our worlds                   |
| They fall apart                       |
| When the walls come tumbling in       |
| Though we may deserve it              |
| It will be worth it  - Depeche Mode   |
=========================================

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From: "Spotillius Maximus aka \"Spot\"" <*****@ix.netcom.com>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.windows.x.kde,linux.redhat.install
Subject: kppp and Netscape (Can't connect)
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 09:05:36 -0400

I'm able to dial out and connect to my ISP with kppp, but, when I start
Netscape, or any other program that uses the internet, I get a can't connect
error message.  It seems that I may not have a permission or path set
properly.  I have read books and Howto's and still can't resolve this.  I'm
sure it's something simple that I'm overlooking.  Thanks.


                                                                        Ed



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    sunsite.unc.edu                             pub/Linux

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