Linux-Misc Digest #989, Volume #19               Thu, 29 Apr 99 19:13:11 EDT

Contents:
  Re: GNU reeks of Communism ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: CLI app: *.jpg -> thumbnail-*.jpg (William Burrow)
  Re: Kernel 2.2.X rpm (Dan Nguyen)
  Re: Help choosing distribution (Chris Sherlock)
  Re: converting ps to pdf (Neil Zanella)
  Re: StarOffice 5.0 (Jeremy Weinberger)
  Re: Which is better ("Michael")
  Re: 'screen' and dselect/lynx/mutt/slrn (terminfo?) (Steve Lamb)
  Re: resizing "growable" partitions (Jeremy Weinberger)
  Calibri Firewall/Router on Ebay. ("Jack Levin")
  printer probs daemon won't start ("Mitchell Scott")
  Re: StarOffice 5.0 (Jerry Fountain)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Date: 29 Apr 1999 21:33:35 GMT

In his obvious haste, Prins Olivier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled thusly:
: Might i also remind you to the fact that the ppl who actually "invented" the
: labour/concentration camps were the English, for use in their colonies....and they
: were pretty damned proud of them....

But we'd grown out of that and become more civilised by the time the Germans
started gassing Jews.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Subject: Re: CLI app: *.jpg -> thumbnail-*.jpg
Date: 29 Apr 1999 22:07:17 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:36:02 GMT,
Dav Coleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> The GIMP has a batch mode for running off the command line.
>
>No kidding? That's cool to know, thanks!

ImageMagick (http://www.wizards.dupont.com/cristy/ImageMagick.html)
does the same thing.  It handles a plethora of formats, if you ever
encounter anything strange that you can't look at.  Here's the list
from version 4.2.1 99/04/01:

Here is a list of image formats recognized by ImageMagick.  Mode 'rw+'
means ImageMagick can read, write, and save more than one image of a
sequence to the same file.

    Format  Mode  Description
=========================================================================
       AVS  rw+   AVS X image file
       BMP  rw+   Microsoft Windows bitmap image file
     BMP24  rw+   Microsoft Windows 24-bit bitmap image file
      CMYK  rw-   Raw cyan, magenta, yellow, and black bytes
       DCM  r--   Digital Imaging and Communications in Medicine image file
       DCX  rw+   ZSoft IBM PC multi-page Paintbrush file
       DIB  rw+   Microsoft Windows bitmap image file
      EPDF  rw-   Encapsulated Portable Document Format
       EPI  r--   Adobe Encapsulated PostScript Interchange format
       EPS  rw-   Adobe Encapsulated PostScript file
      EPS2  rw-   Adobe Level II Encapsulated PostScript file
      EPSF  rw-   Adobe Encapsulated PostScript file
      EPSI  rw-   Adobe Encapsulated PostScript Interchange format
       EPT  rw-   Adobe Encapsulated PostScript with TIFF preview
       FAX  rw+   Group 3 FAX
      FITS  rw-   Flexible Image Transport System
        G3  r--   Group 3 FAX
       GIF  rw+   CompuServe graphics interchange format
     GIF87  rw-   CompuServe graphics interchange format (version 87a)
 GRADATION  r--   Gradual passing from one shade to another
   GRANITE  rw-   Granite texture
      GRAY  rw+   Raw gray bytes
         H  rw-   Internal format
       HDF  rw+   Hierarchical Data Format
 HISTOGRAM  rw-   Histogram of the image
       HTM  -w-   Hypertext Markup Language with a client-side image map
      HTML  -w-   Hypertext Markup Language with a client-side image map
       ICB  rw+   Truevision Targa image file
       ICC  rw-   ICC Color Profile
       ICO  r--   Microsoft icon
  IMPLICIT  ---   Internal format
      IPTC  rw-   IPTC Newsphoto
      JBIG  rw+   Joint Bi-level Image experts Group file interchange format
       JPG  rw+   Joint Photographic Experts Group JFIF format
      JPEG  rw+   Joint Photographic Experts Group JFIF format
    JPEG24  rw+   Joint Photographic Experts Group JFIF format
     LABEL  r--   Text image format
      LOGO  rw-   ImageMagick Logo
       MAP  rw-   Colormap intensities and indices
     MATTE  rw+   Matte format
      MIFF  rw+   Magick image file format
       MNG  rw+   Multiple-image Network Graphics
      MONO  rw-   Bi-level bitmap in least-significant-byte (LSB) first order
       MTV  rw+   MTV Raytracing image format
  NETSCAPE  rw-   Netscape 216 color cube
      NULL  r--   NULL image
        P7  rw+   Xv thumbnail format
       PBM  rw+   Portable bitmap format (black and white)
       PCD  rw-   Photo CD
      PCDS  rw-   Photo CD
       PCL  rw-   Page Control Language
       PCT  rw-   Apple Macintosh QuickDraw/PICT file
       PCX  rw-   ZSoft IBM PC Paintbrush file
       PDF  rw+   Portable Document Format
       PIC  rw-   Apple Macintosh QuickDraw/PICT file
      PICT  rw-   Apple Macintosh QuickDraw/PICT file
       PIX  r--   Alias/Wavefront RLE image format
    PLASMA  r--   Plasma fractal image
       PGM  rw+   Portable graymap format (gray scale)
        PM  rw-   X Windows system pixmap file (color)
       PNM  rw+   Portable anymap
       PPM  rw+   Portable pixmap format (color)
       PNG  rw-   Portable Network Graphics
   PREVIEW  -w-   Show a preview an image enhancement effect, or f/x
        PS  rw+   Adobe PostScript file
       PS2  -w+   Adobe Level II PostScript file
       PSD  rw-   Adobe Photoshop bitmap file
      PTIF  rw+   Pyramid encoded TIFF
       PWP  r--   Seattle Film Works
       RAS  rw+   SUN Rasterfile
       RGB  rw+   Raw red, green, and blue bytes
      RGBA  rw+   Raw red, green, blue, and matte bytes
       RLA  r--   Alias/Wavefront image file
       RLE  r--   Utah Run length encoded image file
       SFW  r--   Seattle Film Works
       SGI  rw+   Irix RGB image file
     SHTML  -w-   Hypertext Markup Language with a client-side image map
   STEGANO  r--   Steganographic image
       SUN  rw+   SUN Rasterfile
      TEXT  rw+   Raw text file
       TGA  rw+   Truevision Targa image file
       TIF  rw+   Tagged Image File Format
      TIFF  rw+   Tagged Image File Format
    TIFF24  rw+   24-bit Tagged Image File Format
      TILE  r--   Tile image with a texture
       TIM  r--   PSX TIM file
       TXT  rw+   Raw text file
       UIL  rw-   X-Motif UIL table
      UYVY  rw-   16bit/pixel interleaved YUV
       VDA  rw+   Truevision Targa image file
     VICAR  rw-   VICAR rasterfile format
       VID  rw+   Visual Image Directory
      VIFF  rw+   Khoros Visualization image file
       VST  rw+   Truevision Targa image file
         X  rw-   X Image
       XBM  rw-   X Windows system bitmap (black and white)
        XC  r--   Constant image of X server color
       XPM  rw-   X Windows system pixmap file (color)
        XV  rw+   Khoros Visualization image file
       XWD  rw-   X Windows system window dump file (color)
       YUV  rw-   CCIR 601 4:1:1 file


It will also hand off certain other formats to specific programs it
knows about.

-- 
William Burrow
Copyright 1999 William Burrow

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From: Dan Nguyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Kernel 2.2.X rpm
Date: 29 Apr 1999 22:14:48 GMT

In comp.os.linux.setup Aaron Dershem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Any word on when Red Hat will release a 2.2.X kernel RPM?  I downloaded the
: source files from kernel.org, but I'd rather have a painless, no-brainer
: upgrade.

Why upgrade your kernel?  Shouldn't it becuz you want your system to
run more effienciently.  So compile your own kernel.  Kernel RPMs are dumb!!!!



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From: Chris Sherlock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Help choosing distribution
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 08:30:46 +1000

You may be able to help me... how do I alter the /etc/rc file to stop RH
Linux loading amd at boot-time?

Chris S.

Des Herriott wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 19 Apr 1999 03:07:25 -0700, jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Well, why install all the extra crap if you don't want to use it?
> > Besides, both RedHat and Debian use that idiotic SysV style (or
> > whatever) rc setup with those insideous start/stop scripts which are 10
> > times slower then simple runlevel files like Slackware has.
> 
> Oh, please.
> 
> The SysV method is better.  Period.  One script per service is just so
> much saner than lumping everything in one file.  It makes adding
> services easy, and it makes removing services easy. It makes
> programmatic management of services easy and scriptable, and it makes
> interactive services management easy.  Take a look at chkconfig,
> tksysv, kdesysv, for example, and tell me I'm wrong.
> 
> 10 times slower?  When you can supply some empirical data to support
> that, I'll agree that your claim is not just pure hyperbole.
> 
> Insidious?  Explain what you mean by that, or is that just empty
> rhetoric, as I strongly suspect?
> 
> BSD got a lot of things right (printing services, for example), but
> init scripts was very definitely not one of them.
> 
> --
> Des Herriott, Oracle Corporation UK Ltd.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  - speaking for myself, not my employer.

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From: Neil Zanella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: converting ps to pdf
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:44:52 -0230


On Thu, 29 Apr 1999, Ian Hay wrote:

> Neil Zanella wrote:
> > 
> > On Wed, 28 Apr 1999, Ian Hay wrote:
> 
> > > ftp://ftp.x.org/contrib/applications/pstoedit/pstoedit.html
> > > pstoedit -f pdf filename.ps filename.pdf
> > > It works quite nicely.
> > 
> > I downloaded this and tried it out. Unfortunately the program was unable
> > to convert some fonts and mathematical symbols used within the document.
> > The systems I have access to are Red Hat 5.1 systems. I know that those
> > systems (unfortunately) do not come with a version of ghostscript
> > containing the ps2pdf uttility.
>
> Are you -sure- about the symbol and font problem?  I converted some
> documents with some odd symbols.  Sure enough, when I viewed them in
> Linux with xpdf, some symbols did not display properly, and were denoted
> with a box.  HOWEVER - when I booted into Windows and viewed the same
> document with Acrobat, the document displayed perfectly.  I can only
> assume that your ultimate intention is to have them viewed in Windows,
> so you might want to verify this.

OK, it was xpdf that displayed all those funny symbols but when I used
pstoedit it did give me a lot of "unable to..." errors so I blame it on 
pstoedit.

Here are the details:

I used Acrobat Reader version 3.x for Linux.
The 4.x version in the "Unix" directory is still under development (beta)...

$ cd /tmp
$ wget ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatreader/unix/3.x/acroread_linux_301.tar.gz
$ tar zxvf acroread_linux_301.tar.gz
$ ./INSTALL
...
1.  Use of the Software.

--More--
...
Do you accept the terms and conditions of this license agreement? accept
Enter installation directory for Acrobat 3.01 [/usr/local/Acrobat3] /tmp/Acrobat3
Do you want to create it now? [y] y
$

$ cd /tmp
$ wget ftp://ftp.x.org/contrib/applications/pstoedit/pstoedit.2.60.tar.gz
$ tar zxvf pstoedit.2.60.tar.gz
$ cd pstoedit.2.60/src
$ make clean; make
$ cp ~/filename.ps .
$ pstoedit -f pdf filename.ps filename.pdf
pstoedit: version 2.60 : Copyright (C) 1993,1994,1995,1996,1997 Wolfgang 
Glunz
now calling the interpreter via: gs -q  -dNOBIND -dWRITESYSTEMDICT 
-dNODISPLAY  
/tmp/psin11570baa
unable to map w from 24
unable to map q from 18
unable to map q from 18
unable to map q from 18
unable to map q from 18
unable to map s from 20
unable to map s from 20
unable to map s from 20
unable to map s from 20
unable to map q from 18
unable to map r from 19
unable to map  from 0
unable to map ` from 1
unable to map o from 16
unable to map  from 0
unable to map ` from 1
unable to map p from 17
unable to map o from 16
unable to map  from 0
unable to map ` from 1
unable to map p from 17
unable to map  from 0
unable to map ` from 1
unable to map o from 16
unable to map  from 0
unable to map ` from 1
unable to map p from 17
unable to map o from 16
unable to map  from 0
unable to map ` from 1
unable to map p from 17
unable to map  from 0
unable to map ` from 1
unable to map q from 18
unable to map r from 19
unable to map  from 0
unable to map  from 0
[snip...]
[tons of more "unable to ..." and unreadable characters]
Interpreter finished. Return status 0
now postprocessing the interpreter output
$ $ ../../Acrobat3/bin/acroread ./filename.pdf

There we go. All the symbols look all screwd up.

So, unless there is a difference between the windows and Linux versions 
of Acrobat reader then the fault is in pstoedit.

Did you try Unix's acroread.

If not, please install it just like I did and try it out and tell 
me if there is a difference.

I don't have access to windows from here.

Thanks a lot,

Neil Zanella
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Jeremy Weinberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: nwu.comp.unix.linux,nwu.comp.misc
Subject: Re: StarOffice 5.0
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:42:03 -0500

Thanks, Steve. I don't know exactly why this didn't work correctly before,
but it really didn't. I suspect I may have had path completion problems, and
I was running the wrong setup program. I got the following configuration
working:

kernel 2.2.6
glibc 2.0 (sorry, i misreported this earlier)
soffice 5.01 server+client installation

Here are the steps I followed
su root
gzip -dc so501_01.tar | tar pxvf -
cd so501/so501_inst
./setup /net   # runs the installation program-- does not prompt for license
keys. I installed to /usr/local
exit (switch back to regular user)
/usr/local/Office50/bin/setup   #run the setup program that was just created
in the previous step
This will prompt you for a license key.
I think my error from before was trying to run the downloaded setup program
as myself for the client installation, or the installed soffice script for
the client installation. Both will fail. It would be intelligent if the
documentation explicitly instructed you as to *which* program named setup to
run. There really are two. Perhaps this can be culled from the docs with
careful reading, but from the posts I've seen, about 25% of users figure out
how to do this and the others just give up. Sounds like a common confusion to
me. Well, it's up and running and my life is happy again. Yay life.

jeremy

Steve D. Perkins wrote:

>     The "best" way to install StarOffice is to login as root... change to
> the directory where you unpacked all the installation files, and run the
> setup program with the "/net" flag.  The will install the main system-wide
> files to some central directory (I used "/opt/Office50").
>




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From: "Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Which is better
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:47:38 -0400

Hi,

Thanks for everyone's help.  In fact, I am also new to hardware.
I just bought a HP8240 last year and even have no idea about
what kind of internal modem it has :).  I think that I should call
HP service to find out.

Michael

Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>"Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am new to linux.  I plan to buy a set of linux software to install
>> into my PC (HP8240).  Which linux is better and definitely
>> supports the modem (56k data fax voice) on HP8240?
>
>all linux distributions support the same hardware.  most of the
>distribution difference is in the install.  once you have the linux
>system installed, almost all the software is the same.  there are some
>differences such as placement of the init scripts, but these are
>really minor.
>
>what modem do you have?  if it is a pci modem, winmodem or software
>driven modem, then you will not get it to work in linux.  (don't blame
>linux, complain to the manufacturer of the modem for not releasing the
>interface and operating specs.)  external modems are almost
>universally good.  isa modems, even pnp one are workable as long as
>they interface via a uart.
>
>--
>johan kullstam



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Lamb)
Subject: Re: 'screen' and dselect/lynx/mutt/slrn (terminfo?)
Date: 29 Apr 1999 22:32:08 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Thu, 29 Apr 1999 21:13:12 GMT, T.E.Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I'm having a problem with 'screen' in Debian GNU/Linux 2.1.

>is that 3.7.6? (that's current)

hi  screen          3.7.6-1        A screen manager with VT100/ANSI terminal

>I'd check on dselect, but haven't been able to find a tar file that
>contains it (no, I'm _not_ downloading all of Debian to look for it ;-)

    Hmmm, you're right, it doesn't appear to be in the sources tree on the
quick search I made for it.  One would expect it to be in base, admin, utils
or maybe even misc.

>that's a shame (lynx works fine in 'screen' with ncurses -- but screen
>doesn't really support bce, so anything that uses slang will malfunction
>in screen).

    For the record I am using Debian as well, a mostly Slink system with
some Potato components.  I'm use mutt, slrn, lynx and deslect all inside
screen with no problems at all.

>> Also, is there anyway to stop the delay when pressing escape - it is
>> annoying in vi.
>that's 'screen' (I haven't chased it down).

    What delay?  I see no delay here.  Of course, I don't use vi but if I
his esc in jed it comes up fine.

-- 
             Steve C. Lamb             | Opinions expressed by me are not my
                                       | employer's.  They hired me for my
             ICQ: 5107343              | skills and labor, not my opinions!
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From: Jeremy Weinberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: resizing "growable" partitions
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:33:37 -0500

To explicitly answer your question, "growable" when you are using disk
druid does not mean "modifiable without data loss at a later time". It
means "grow to fill all available space not taken by other partitions
while I am repartitioning" So you will either have to do the symlink
thing or convince rpm to install it somewhere else .. if there's a way,
it's in the rpm manpage.

jeremy

Tadas Paegle wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know how to resize a growable partition in linux.  I have a
> full 4GB HHD dedicated to linux.  Apparently I made my /opt too small.
> I have kde and netscape on it now, but I want to install Sybase and it's
> rpm wants to go there....my /usr/local dir have tons of room.  I was
> either thinking of trying to force Sybase to go to a different dir
> (can't figure that out) or taking some space from /usr/local and moving
> it to /opt.  Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Tadas
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-- 
____________________________________________
Death to the demoness Allegra Geller!

Jeremy Weinberger
Northwestern University, Evanston, IL.  USA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.isp.nwu.edu/~jeremy

�Words do not express thoughts very well. They always become a little
different immediately as they are expressed, a little distorted, a
little foolish. And yet it pleases me and seems right that what is of
value and wisdom to one man seems nonsense to another.� -- Siddhartha,
Herman Hesse.

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From: "Jack Levin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Calibri Firewall/Router on Ebay.
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:44:33 -0700
Crossposted-To: 
comp.dcom.modems.cable,comp.dcom.xdsl,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.security.firewalls

Hi all... Check out Calibri-133 firewall being sold at Ebay. (hardware)
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=97714586

-Jack



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From: "Mitchell Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: printer probs daemon won't start
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 07:47:50 +0100
Reply-To: "Mitchell Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Can someone please help with a problem I am have regarding printers.
I have a Lexmark 3000 Color Jetprinter which must be one of the hardest
things on this planet to configure with SuSE 6.0
but somehow and I don't know how I got it working through "yast" with the
settings as "other printer" "hpdj" "lp1" "300x300"
I t took the best part of a month tweaking and messing about!... I then
tried to configure an Internet connection with no luck until  someone on
this group suggested I try "kde" "kppp" and bingo I was on line thanks for
the help! But guess what? now the printer does not work the message I get
when using the command "lpr anyfile" is:- lpr connect: Connection refused...
Job queued but cannot start daemon. How do I rectify this problem ? I write
to support@suse .com and [EMAIL PROTECTED] but they do not write back,  Is
setting up Linux supposed to be this hard?
Thanks and Best wishes
Mitchell
mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED]






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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jerry Fountain)
Crossposted-To: nwu.comp.unix.linux,nwu.comp.misc
Subject: Re: StarOffice 5.0
Date: 29 Apr 1999 18:15:28 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jeremy Weinberger  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Can anyone recommend a functional office package that 1) can be installed on a
>shared network location and 2) is not too prohibitively expensive to license
>for 100 users? Applixware looks like it would be rather costly answer to this
>question.. I also haven't really evaluated applix myself, but I've heard before
>the StarOffice is more fully-featured than most of the other packages. Has
>anybody installed or used KOffice? Are there enough features to make it useful?

I'm not sure of the details (I haven't installed it), but I've heard good
things about Corel's suite for Linux.  

http://linux.corel.com

Jerry


-- 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]    | Northwestern University
(847) 491-3555 (Office) | Department of Chemical Engineering
(847) 491-3728 (FAX)    | 2145 Sheridan Road, Evanston, IL  60208

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