Linux-Misc Digest #989, Volume #24 Thu, 29 Jun 00 14:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: What is foobar, or foo bar, or whatever...?? (Thorsten Claus)
Re: Need clarification: what really is 'MBR' and what is 'BOOT SECTOR'? ("Charlie
Root")
Re: Linux Command. ("John D. Goulden")
Re: changing monitor settings ("John D. Goulden")
Can I reattach process to new terminal? (Daijoubu)
Re: "screen" problems while using a vt320 (Matthew Miller)
Good AD converter + plotting software? ("David J. Topper")
Re: Linux Command. (Philip Chapman)
Re: inetd problem (Alexander Kozik)
Re: Images to mpeg... (Craig Jones)
Re: changing monitor settings (Chris Orth)
Re: What is foobar, or foo bar, or whatever...?? (Inne Hoekstra)
Re: Need Reboot Script (Mefisto)
Re: Using CDRW as tar-like device (Christopher Wong)
Security problem (Miguel)
Re: Using CDRW as tar-like device (Lew Pitcher)
Linux - The Complete Reference - 2nd Ed. (JB)
Re: Bug in gcc under linux? (Paul Kimoto)
Re: Can't Boot from Compiled Kernel (2.2.13) ("Mark VanBogart")
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From: Thorsten Claus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,nf.comp.linux
Subject: Re: What is foobar, or foo bar, or whatever...??
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 19:08:03 +0200
I am living in Germany and I also saw saving private Rayan.
In the Film they used foobar because we have a word "furchtbar" ! And I
thing Englishmen aren't able to say this
The 'ch' in the Word sounds for an Englishmen like the 'ch' in 'cheer'
or 'chair' Try to say the word !
"furchtbar" meant something terrible, a bad thing.
I don't now how to pronounce it.
Hendrix wrote:
>
> Hi foobarians,
>
> I've heard so many linux sites, books, and even email messages that
> contain this phrase...??? What the heck is foo bar...???? The weird
> thing is that it also makes its presence in the movie "Saving Private
> Ryan", but they never define the term... Hmmm..... Ha...
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Trevor Penney,
> A+, Network+ Certified
> ----------------------
> That's alright, I still got my guitar...
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From: "Charlie Root" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: microsoft.public.windowsnt.misc,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Need clarification: what really is 'MBR' and what is 'BOOT SECTOR'?
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 17:20:32 GMT
Rod Smith wrote in message <9FJ65.247425$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>In article <sHC65.14508$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Charlie Root" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>*EVERY* PC OS that uses the standard PC partitioning scheme needs the
>MBR. The MBR holds the primary boot loader code, without which the
>computer *CANNOT* boot from a hard disk. It also holds the partition
>table, without which no OS can know where partitions begin and end.
>
>> If multibooting NT and Linux not using the LILO, NT OS loader likes
>> to have the boot sector from the other operating systems available as a
>> file. NT has 'boot.ini'that read like:
>
>True. This doesn't mean that the MBR isn't necessary any more than the
>fact that an airplane in flight isn't using wheels means that they
>aren't necessary to get into the air in the first place, though.
>
>> Where this resides? Not at MBR but at C:\ root directory with system and
>> hidden attributes.
>
>The configuration files reside there, but the OS Loader itself installs in
>the partition's boot sector.
>
>> Try boot it with MS-DOS floppy then do at C:\ prompt:
>> 'a:\fdisk /mbr' you can still boot either OS because MBR is not being
used
>> at all.
>
>No, FDISK /MBR re-writes a standard MBR. NT boots from a standard MBR.
>If you really believe that the MBR isn't needed, try booting from a
>Linux emergency floppy and issue this command:
>
>dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1
>
>That will overwrite the MBR with 0s. Then NT won't boot. Hint: DO NOT try
>this on any system you expect to EVER use again without reinstalling
>EVERYTHING from scratch!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
Anyway, thanks for the tech infos. It probably worth buying your book to
explore more. Btw, I'll that that 'dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512
count=1', worse comes to worst I'll try System Commander or Partition Magic
to restore the NT and Linux boot these third party OS managers has always
been helpful.
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From: "John D. Goulden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Command.
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:26:15 -0500
Alas, piping ls through 'more' or 'less' costs you the pretty colors that
some linuxes use to differentiate file types...could be frustrating to a new
user. Like me.
--
Please reply by email as well as to the group.
John D. Goulden
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "John D. Goulden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: changing monitor settings
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:38:14 -0500
OK, I came to the group with basically this same question. My XF86Config
file has modelines for several resolutions (640x480, 800x600, 1024x768) all
of which looked fine when tested with Xconfigurator. What I can't figure out
how to do is switch resolutions on the fly. XWindows always comes up in
1024x768 but sometimes my tired old eyes need 800 x 600 and I can't get it
without leaving XWindows, running Xconfigurator and simply not choosing the
higher resolution, and then running startx again. Surely there's a better
way than that! I can't even figure out (by looking at XF86Config) how to
select the mode that will be used; they're all listed but I see nothing
special associated with the 1024x768 modeline. Any tips for a very new Linux
user? (RedHat 6.2)
--
Please reply by email as well as to the group.
John D. Goulden
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Daijoubu)
Subject: Can I reattach process to new terminal?
Date: 29 Jun 2000 17:25:53 GMT
Sometimes I get kicked out of my ssh sessions (modem hangs up, etc.). When I
ssh back in later my jobs are still running but are attached to the dead
terminal session. Killing the old task and starting it over again often means
losing a lot of time. Is there any way to assign a still running task to a new
terminal under Linux? Thanks.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthew Miller)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: "screen" problems while using a vt320
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 17:26:12 GMT
Hi Pete,
On Thu, 29 Jun 2000 16:46:02 GMT, Pete Zaitcev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I use screen on vt-320 and it is almost fully functional, however
>rapid region scrolling can cause image corruption (noticeable with slrn).
Well, I'm glad to know that it works for someone :)
>My version is:
>Screen version 3.07.04 (FAU) 23-Jun-97
>
>Try to recompile screen yourself. This is what I have done.
>Also, my screen segfaulted on libc5, the problem fixed itself
>when I switched to glibc 2.0.7 (running glibc 2.1.3 now).
I compiled it myself from the sources and my glibc is 2.1.2.
>Also make sure that you have x-on/x-off set right in the terminal setup.
Hum, the comm. setup with the terminal right now is that xoff is off. I also
tested the settings with xoff set to 64 and 128. No change.
What is your xoff setting? Are there any other relevant settings I should
look at? I'm almost desperate enough to recompile screen with debugging
symbols and sic gdb on it! But, I'm not to that point yet. It is really
bothersome to get no output from screen or error messages :(
Thanks for your help.
Matthew
--
Sometimes, the best applause lies in knowing you have offended a fool.
-- Anonymous
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From: "David J. Topper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Good AD converter + plotting software?
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 14:16:29 -0400
Hi folks,
I'm getting involved with a medical school project here that needs the
following:
1. A good AD board that can take multiple inputs at different voltages
and sample rates.
2. A nice software package that will allow data grabbed from above to
be plotted in tandem to do eyeball correlation.
If anyone knows of anything even remotely close, please let me know.
Thanks,
Dave Topper
--
Technical Director, Virginia Center for Computer Music
http://www.people.virginia.edu/~djt7p
(804) 924-6887
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From: Philip Chapman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Command.
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 17:35:53 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "John D. Goulden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Alas, piping ls through 'more' or 'less' costs you the pretty colors that
> some linuxes use to differentiate file types...could be frustrating to a new
> user. Like me.
>
> --
> Please reply by email as well as to the group.
> John D. Goulden
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
if you're using the ls -la command, there is a d to the left of permissions
on directories. Links have the link_name -> linked_file_name in it's name
column. Also you can use -p (or one of the other indicator styles, see
man ls) to append characters to the end of file/directory names that will
help you identify what they are. For example, / is appended to directory
names.
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From: Alexander Kozik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.dial-up,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: inetd problem
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:39:13 -0700
According to RedHat manual if you install RedHat 6.2 as workstation (GNOME
or KDE) inetd is not installed. inetd is installed if you install RedHat
6.2 as server or use expert installation. This is new feature of RedHat
:-).
On 29 Jun 2000, Peter T. Breuer wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.misc Natius van der Watt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : Ok, me = newbie, so excuse all stupidity, but please help.
> : Running RH 6.2 and KDE peoblem: I can't telnet ftp etc. to my machene,
> : someone told me the "inetd" demon should be running, but it ain't. I ran
>
> If that's so then you have a huge problem. The inetd should be running
> under all configurations that are even vaguely sensible, even when you
> are not connected to the net.
>
> I don't believe you. Prove your statement.
>
>
> Peter
>
>
=================================================
Alexander Kozik, Medical School, Bio-Chem Dpt,
University of California at Davis.
Davis, 95616 CA.
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
tel: (530)-754 6093
=================================================
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From: Craig Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Images to mpeg...
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 17:29:33 GMT
It works great... One small question/problem.
I would like to have maybe one frame per second displayed. Is there
*any* way to set this? One possible solution would be to put 30 of the
same frame in a row, but that would produce one huge file (I would
assume).
Craig.
> Use the Berkeley mpeg_encode utility.
> http://bmrc.berkeley.edu/frame/research/mpeg/mpeg_encode.html
> It's fairly simple, just untar, ./configure, make, and have a look at
the
> sample encoder file as it has loads of comments on what you can change
and
> the options you can set.
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Before you buy.
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From: Chris Orth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: changing monitor settings
Date: 29 Jun 2000 17:41:27 GMT
Usually ctrl-alt-+ and ctrl-alt-- (ctral alt and plus, and ctrl alt and
minus) pressed together will cycle through the modes. You can't cycle
through color depths this way, but at least you can get the zoom in effect I
think you are looking for. Select all the modes you intend to work when you
run Xconfigurator (not just one mode). You can also just edit your
XF86Config, I know it's not GUI but it will be faster:
e.g.
Section "Screen"
DefaultColorDepth 16
<truncated>
Subsection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1152x864" "1024x768" "640x480" "800x600"
This example has 4 modes defined that you can cycle through.
Chris
In alt.os.linux John D. Goulden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: OK, I came to the group with basically this same question. My XF86Config
: file has modelines for several resolutions (640x480, 800x600, 1024x768) all
: of which looked fine when tested with Xconfigurator. What I can't figure out
: how to do is switch resolutions on the fly. XWindows always comes up in
: 1024x768 but sometimes my tired old eyes need 800 x 600 and I can't get it
: without leaving XWindows, running Xconfigurator and simply not choosing the
: higher resolution, and then running startx again. Surely there's a better
: way than that! I can't even figure out (by looking at XF86Config) how to
: select the mode that will be used; they're all listed but I see nothing
: special associated with the 1024x768 modeline. Any tips for a very new Linux
: user? (RedHat 6.2)
: --
: Please reply by email as well as to the group.
: John D. Goulden
: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Inne Hoekstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,nf.comp.linux
Subject: Re: What is foobar, or foo bar, or whatever...??
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 17:46:15 GMT
that's bullshit
Thorsten Claus wrote:
> I am living in Germany and I also saw saving private Rayan.
> In the Film they used foobar because we have a word "furchtbar" ! And I
> thing Englishmen aren't able to say this
>
> The 'ch' in the Word sounds for an Englishmen like the 'ch' in 'cheer'
> or 'chair' Try to say the word !
>
> "furchtbar" meant something terrible, a bad thing.
>
> I don't now how to pronounce it.
>
> Hendrix wrote:
> >
> > Hi foobarians,
> >
> > I've heard so many linux sites, books, and even email messages that
> > contain this phrase...??? What the heck is foo bar...???? The weird
> > thing is that it also makes its presence in the movie "Saving Private
> > Ryan", but they never define the term... Hmmm..... Ha...
> >
> > Thanks,
> > --
> > Trevor Penney,
> > A+, Network+ Certified
> > ----------------------
> > That's alright, I still got my guitar...
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From: Mefisto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need Reboot Script
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 17:40:56 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I would like a scipt or a way to tell my Linux box to reboot. It
could be either in so many hours or at a specific time and date.
see cron and shutdown :)
--
CUL8R,
Mefisto
-= Linux: The choice of the GNU generation! :)
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Wong)
Subject: Re: Using CDRW as tar-like device
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 17:51:52 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jim McDonald wrote:
>
>cdrecord has a packet writing mode?
>See http://sourceforge.net/project/?group_id=7091, but I'm pretty sure
>packet writing is only supported in late 2.3 and 2.4-test kernels.
The manpage for cdrecord 1.8 has:
-packet
Set Packet writing mode. This is an experimental
interface.
pktsize=#
Set the paket size to #, forces fixed packet mode.
This is an experimental interface.
-noclose
Do not close the current track, useful only when in
packet writing mode. This is an experimental
interface.
That's about the full extent of the documentation.
Chris
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From: Miguel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Security problem
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 19:27:00 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi all,
I have noticed a bug in one of the programs I'm working on now. The
result is that I have a program that eats up all my memory (including
swap) and I can't kill it because the keyboard blocks.
How can I avoid this ? How can limit the memory a process can use ?
Thanks in advance.
miguel
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Using CDRW as tar-like device
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 18:06:15 GMT
FWIW, there's a package called 'cdar' (available at
http://ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk/~pdw/cdar/ ) which can manage multiple
'tar'-like archives on CDROM. The homepage describes it as:
"Cdar is a utility for writing arbitrary pipes and files to a CDR.
Cdar does not actually write CDs - you will still need to use a
program like cdrecord. Cdar can store and retrieve files from a
multitrack CD. This is very useful if you have a multisession drive as
it allows you to make incremental backups onto a single CD."
On Thu, 29 Jun 2000 17:51:52 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher
Wong) wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jim McDonald wrote:
>>
>>cdrecord has a packet writing mode?
>>See http://sourceforge.net/project/?group_id=7091, but I'm pretty sure
>>packet writing is only supported in late 2.3 and 2.4-test kernels.
>
>The manpage for cdrecord 1.8 has:
>
> -packet
> Set Packet writing mode. This is an experimental
> interface.
>
> pktsize=#
> Set the paket size to #, forces fixed packet mode.
> This is an experimental interface.
>
> -noclose
> Do not close the current track, useful only when in
> packet writing mode. This is an experimental
> interface.
>
>That's about the full extent of the documentation.
>
>Chris
Lew Pitcher
Information Technology Consultant
Toronto Dominion Bank Financial Group
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Bug in gcc under linux?
Date: 29 Jun 2000 14:09:19 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <BSI65.2161$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Grant Edwards wrote:
> It looks to me like getcwd isn't allocating 256 bytes as
> requested.
This seems to be an known, open(?) glibc bug:
http://www-gnats.gnu.org:8080/cgi-bin/wwwgnats.pl/full/1788
(It's not gcc's fault.)
--
Paul Kimoto
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From: "Mark VanBogart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Can't Boot from Compiled Kernel (2.2.13)
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:10:25 -0500
Yes, both kernels are at / so this should not be a problem.
"smp root" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> just wondered... where is the kernel you compiled stored???
>
> your lilo.conf says it is at the root of your root partition, is
> it actually there????
>
>
>
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