Linux-Misc Digest #989, Volume #26 Thu, 1 Feb 01 06:13:01 EST
Contents:
Re: Better wait for Linux Kernel 2.4.x (Scott Alfter)
Re: Can multiple OS' run simulteanously? (J.H.M. Dassen (Ray))
VNC - SSH ("Sergiy P. Zhenochin")
Re: PCI bus access (Arne Driescher)
Re: Networking strange problems! ("Robert Jenkins")
Re: who's rewriting /etc/fstab? (Ray)
help on Raid ("Joan Carles Monllor P�rez")
Re: Kernel NFS problems...help (g gilmore)
Re: USB printer with kernel 2.2.18... (Arto Viitanen)
Re: Better wait for Linux Kernel 2.4.x (Joseph Holland King)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Ian Davey)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Nick Condon)
Re: Slow Disk Check for Large Drives (John Thompson)
Netscape 6 java installation (John Thompson)
Re: Convert Word-DOC to PostScript (John Thompson)
Re: how to upgrade from workstation to server (Andrew Purugganan)
Nie uruchamia mi sie smbd... (Mat)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Alfter)
Subject: Re: Better wait for Linux Kernel 2.4.x
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 08:18:38 -0000
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In article <zmMd6.503$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Arctic Storm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Anyone else tired of reading about complaints about Linux Kernel 2.4?!
>I was seriously thinking of upgrading to Linux Kernel 2.4, but I'm not sure
>anymore. Maybe waiting for 2.4.1, or 2.4.2, or 2.4.x maybe be prudent,
>considering the problems many people are having with 2.4.
I've been running 2.4.0-final ever since the reiserfs patch was updated for
it, and had been running -test11 and -test9 before that with no significant
problems (the es1371 driver seems to have some problem running as a module,
but the only machine where I normally use sound has an es1370, and that
driver works fine). Here are the configs:
server
======
K6-2-300, 64 megs RAM, 10 gigs disk
3C905C
40x IDE CD-ROM
TR-4 IDE tape drive
generic Hercules-compatible mono-graphics adapter
Creative Labs AudioPCI (ES1371)
workstation 1
=============
K6-III-450, 256 megs RAM, 7.5 gigs disk (though it boots Linux from the
server; Windows lives on the HDs)
generic RTL8139 NIC
2x DVD-ROM and 2x2x6 CD-RW
ATI Radeon 32MB DDR (works great with XF86 4.0.2, BTW)
Ensoniq AudioPCI (ES1370)
workstation 2
=============
K6-200, 64 megs RAM, no disk (boots Linux from server)
generic DEC Tulip-based NIC
6x CD-ROM
STB Velocity 128 (Riva 128, 4MB...anyone know how to get the TV-out on this
to keep working after X kicks in?)
Creative Labs AudioPCI (ES1371)
"Distro" is LFS, which could have something to do with it as everything was
built up around the new kernel. I won't hazard any guesses as to how a
kernel upgrade would sit with Redh*t, SuSE, or whatever (though I usually
didn't have too much trouble with SuSE).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J.H.M. Dassen (Ray))
Crossposted-To: comp.software.config-mgmt
Subject: Re: Can multiple OS' run simulteanously?
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 08:42:14 +0000 (UTC)
[Followup set; your question is not on-topic in comp.software.config-mgmt]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have installed a Linux OS ontop of a Windows 98 OS. I had trouble doing
>it, so I used the VM package.
I'll assume you mean VMware.
>My goal is to run both OS's simultaneously. Is that possible?
It depends on your definitions. The x86 architecture is not suitable for
running multiple OSes (or even multiple copies of the same OS)
simultaneously; AFAIK only some mainframe architectures are.
You can use software like VMWare, WINE, Lin4Win and Bochs to run software
for one OS on the other or run a copies of one OS in a virtual machine on
another.
>Can I run multiple Linux OS' simultaneous on the same machine (and ditch
>the Win98 OS)? Well, I know I CAN, but How?
The closest you can get is to run Linux and run Win98 inside a VMware
virtual machine.
HTH,
Ray
--
"The software `wizard' is the single greatest obstacle to computer literacy
since the Mac."
http://www.osopinion.com/Opinions/MichaelKellen/MichaelKellen1.html
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From: "Sergiy P. Zhenochin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: VNC - SSH
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 23:38:48 -0800
I would like to access Linux box from NT using vnc. Does anyone know how to
do it? It seems that explanations in the documentation apply to the client
running on Linux, not on NT.
Thanks,
Sergiy.
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From: Arne Driescher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: PCI bus access
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 10:08:23 +0100
David Florez wrote:
>
> Arne,
> I searched the web after reading your post and found this:
> http://kernelnewbies.org/code/mmap/
>
> The concept seems to be what I'm looking for but I've got a doubt:
> I believe that when you map a file into user space by using mmap() the
> kernel thinks it's a real file and therefore uses cache pages to do that
> mapping. What if what you are really mapping is the PCI bus with lots of
> changing hardware registers? How can I get rid of any caching at all?
>
The Linux files system interface is designed in a very generic way.
All drivers can implement mmap even if they don't access real files.
The kernel knows that char devices should not be cached and does
not interfer with your memory handling. You have probably read some
stuff
about the "normal" use of mmap to access files on your drive. This does
not
apply to your own device driver.
-Arne
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From: "Robert Jenkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Networking strange problems!
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 09:20:49 -0000
Hi,
are you using a combo card by any chance? I've seen this when the twisted
pair connection is broken, the card switches to the BNC and does'nt auto
switch back.
Regards,
Robert Jenkins.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ray)
Subject: Re: who's rewriting /etc/fstab?
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 09:28:19 -0000
On Wed, 31 Jan 2001 08:06, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Joost Gevers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>> >Snip . . .
>>> >It's too bad, as I've been using PQ's Partition Magic and Boot
>>> >Magic for some time and am generally satisfied. Maybe they'll
>>> >improve Drive Image in the future but the current 4.0 release
>>> >is worthless.
>>> >
>>> Well it at last it is making sense!
>>> A while back I bought a new HD. When I installed it, I decided to take
>>> some off the swap partition and some off my OS/2 and NT partitions and
>>> add them to my Linux partition. All went well after using Pattion Magic
>>> 4.01. That is Nt booted just fine. OS/2 booted just fine. But when I
>>> booted to Linux, it threw up. I retried several times but it did the
>>> same thing. So I booted to NT, looked around the net and found ext2
>>> driver for NT, thank God. My suspicions were right, there was a line in
>>> the /etc/fstab file that I had not put in. It was trying to mount hd19,
>>> where as it should have been trying to mount hdb1!!!
>>> I posted to a Linux NG,trying to find out what happend. Only one person
>>> guessed that it was linuxconf's doing.
>>>
>>> Now , based my experience and yours, I know it was PM.
>>> I have used Partion Magic for a long time, and always liked it until
>>> now. I wonder if the newer versions of PM have the same bug in it.
>>>
>>> Thanks for confirming my hunches.
>>>
>>> Masoud
>>
>>I have experienced an identical problem with Partition Magic 5.0. Adding
>>two partition before my /dev/hda8 results in a changed fstab. /dev/hda8
>>becomes /dev/hda10.
>>Removing the paritions results in /dev/hd19
>>
>>So if it is PM which causes the problem, it is not solved in 5.0, maybe in
>>6.0
>>
>>Joost
>>
>Now the next question.
>Is there anything else that does what Partition Magic does but without
>the bug. I know there are others but I have never used them.
>I think we would all appreciate hearing from the people who use PM's
>competitor products.
>Masoud
How sure are you (or the previous poster) that PM is the one actually
changing fstab? I just find it really hard to believe that that kind of
utility would go around editing files on your system. It really sounds more
like Red Hat noticing that something has changed on the next re-boot and
then "fixing" your config files for you.
--
Ray
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From: "Joan Carles Monllor P�rez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: help on Raid
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 10:23:54 +0100
Hello, I have installed a RAID linear system (Raid-tools 0.9) in
linux Red-hat 7 ( kernel 2.4.0). I didn`t have any problem with this.
But, I am in trouble, when I want to add another disk:
exemple:
I have 2 partitions "/dev/hdb1" --> 40 Gb
and "/dev/hdc1" --> 10GB
with "/dev/hdb1" and "/dev/hdc1", create
"/dev/md0" and I format and have a partition of 50 Gb linear.
Now, I have a disk in "/dev/hdd1" of 10 Gb
I want add "/dev/hdd1" to the Raid system.
Then, I modify the "/etc/raidtab" in order
to add two new lines:
device /dev/hdd1
raid-disk 2
and also modify this line
nr-raid-disks 2
So, when I create then new Raid partition (
mkraid --really-force /dev/md0), this partition is not shown when I
launch the command df in the shell,
because, "/dev/md0" raid partition needs to
be reformatted.
Can I add a disk without formatting ?
thanks.
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,linux.dev.kernel
From: g gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel NFS problems...help
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 10:12:59 GMT
Hmmm. I've been happily mounting shares all over the place with
recent kernels without any trouble, but I guess never a vfat
partition. I just tried it after reading your post. It didn't work
for me either.
Greg
--
On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Bob Sully wrote:
> Greetings:
>
> I have a small network at my office composed of three machines - one
> server and two clients, all running Mandrake 7.2. All are dual-boot
> boxes (Linux and Windoze 95). The server contains an old DOS-based
> database application and its associated data files, which I need to
> access from the client machines (I run it under DOSEmu). To do this, I
> need to be able to mount two VFAT directories on the server from the
> client boxen. I also have a USB Zip-250 drive on the server which I use
> to back up the data at the end of the day, and a USB scanner which I'm
> trying to get running with SANE.
>
> To cut to the chase: Kernel-NFS appears to be broken in all kernels
> since 2.2.17; this is the "stock" kernel that comes with Mandrake 7.2.
> When running this kernel on the server, I *can* NFS-mount the VFAT
> directories on the client boxen. With every subsequent kernel since
> (2.2.18 and up, through 2.4.1) I cannot - I get an error message stating
> "Permission denied by server".
>
> I suppose I could simply live with the 2.2.17 stock Mandrake kernel,
> except for the fact that the USB interface doesn't work with it at all.
>
> This is not a hardware-specific problem. I have noticed the same
> problem on my home network; running RedHat 7.0 with an old
> custom-compiled 2.2.16 kernel allows me to share MP3 files currently in
> a VFAT directory, whereas with 2.2.18 and up - same problem: "Permission
> denied".
>
> When I compile these kernels, I statically compile in NFS support
> (including the option for v3 support in the 2.4 series).
>
> I have looked all over Usenet and haven't found an answer to this, and
> have even submitted a bug report to Trond in Norway (recently; haven't
> heard back yet).
>
> Is there something obvious that I'm missing here or is kernel NFS really
> broken in the 2.4 kernels? If the latter is true, is there a
> workaround, and are the developers aware of the problem? Unfortunately,
> I have to leave these files in VFAT directories for now.
>
> Thanks in advance; if anyone can help, please reply via e-mail as well,
> since I don't get onto Usenet too often.
>
> -- Bob --
> ________________________________________
> Bob Sully - Simi Valley, California, USA
> http://www.malibyte.net
> On the 8th day, God said: "Murphy, you're in charge."
>
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From: Arto Viitanen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: USB printer with kernel 2.2.18...
Date: 01 Feb 2001 12:12:58 +0200
>>>>> "Linux-Addict" == Linux-Addict <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Linux-Addict> upgrade to 2.4 kernel the 2.2 kernal doesn't support to much
Linux-Addict> of anything with USB.
It depends. On Mandrake 7.2 I could use USB mouse and printer without
problem with 2.2.17. Ok, I changed to 2.4.0 and they work fine still.
--
Arto V. Viitanen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
University of Tampere, Department of Computer and Information Sciences
Tampere, Finland http://www.cs.uta.fi/~av/
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From: Joseph Holland King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Better wait for Linux Kernel 2.4.x
Date: 1 Feb 2001 10:18:37 GMT
: In article <zmMd6.503$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
: Arctic Storm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:>Anyone else tired of reading about complaints about Linux Kernel 2.4?!
:>I was seriously thinking of upgrading to Linux Kernel 2.4, but I'm not sure
:>anymore. Maybe waiting for 2.4.1, or 2.4.2, or 2.4.x maybe be prudent,
:>considering the problems many people are having with 2.4.
i have been running 2.4 on two machines and worked great on both (well until
the harddisk in one of them died) albeit i did need some of the features in
2.4. also, if i am not mistaken 2.4.1 is out now so you might as well try
that.
---
Joseph Holland King | "God whispers to us in our pleasures, speaks in our
| conscience, but shouts in our pains: it is His
| megaphone to rouse a deaf world." C. S. Lewis
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ian Davey)
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 10:23:40 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> As far as Atheists are concerned, god doesn't exist any more than Santa Claus
>> or the Easter Bunny.
>
>Which *IS* a belief in itself.
Not true. I read lots of novels and enjoy them, but don't believe any of the
content as it's just fiction. There's no belief system wrapped up in it.
There's no need to pay any attention to people who elevate stories into a
belief system.
There are lots of fairy tales with different versions told of them, the fact I
don't believe they are true doesn't make that act of disbelief a "belief
system". That's just absurd.
My favourite version of the Jesus story is the one where the time traveller
Karl Glogaeur goes back to witness the crucifiction, finds Jesus as a drooling
idiot and ends up takes his place in the rest of the story[*]. The bible is
simply a collection of similar moral stories, just like what has been
represented by Fairy Tales. They're both just different ways of expressing the
same thing, these stories can be useful as examples and supply useful sticks
and carrots for those who do believe them.
So where does any form of belief come into this? Next you'll be claiming that
science is a religion as well (rather than a collection of theories).
ian.
* courtesy of "Behold the Man" by Michael Moorcock
\ /
(@_@) http://www.eclipse.co.uk/sweetdespise/ (dark literature)
/(&)\ http://www.eclipse.co.uk/sweetdespise/libertycaptions/ (art)
| |
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nick Condon)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: 1 Feb 2001 10:21:38 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aaron R. Kulkis) wrote in
>However, this has NOTHING to do with Microsoft. They have NEVER been
>*granted* a government-sanctioned monopoly.
All copyrights and patents are government granted monopolies. Microsoft
holds many.
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Slow Disk Check for Large Drives
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 17:24:07 -0600
aflinsch wrote:
> Jean-David Beyer wrote:
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm leading up the development of a Linux-based product that requires
> > > alot of storage space. The main problem that we are experiencing comes
> > > when the system loses power unexpectedly and reboots. The following
> > > disk check takes forever if the system has 3 or 4 60 Gb disks. We
> > > really need to speed up this reboot process or we may be forced into
> > > using Windows 2000 (which I loathe). Even with a UPS connected, we
> > > have to take into account the fact that some people will just power the
> > > thing on and off.
> > If you cannot afford the time it takes to do the fsck's (some of these
> > can be done in parallel to speed it up if you have different drives),
> > perhaps your system(s) deserve to be run from a UPS that can coast over
> > the short-term power interruptions, and cause a controlled shut-down for
> > the longer ones. That way, the fsck's can be bypassed.
> That would help for power failures, but won't stop someone from
> pressing the big red reset switch...
> I think that a better solution would be along the lines of a journaled
> file system like reiserfs/jfs/xfs.
> I don't know much about jfs or xfs other than that they exist, but
> reuiser works great on my systems, and is part of the main kernel (as
> of the 2.4.1 release)
The journaled file system would cure the symptom of long disk
checks on reboots, but the real solution would be to prevent the
reboots in the first place. If the users can't be trusted not to
kill the power abruptly, they shouldn't be allowed access to the
machine. There's a lot more at risk here than just tedious disk
checks when the machine comes up again. Killed jobs and real
data loss are going to eventually take their toll on the system
and the users. Lock the machine and UPS in a room and have them
connect to it through an x-terminal display. If they turn the x
terminal off, they just kill their display. The rest of the
system is unaffected.
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Netscape 6 java installation
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 17:33:23 -0600
I'm trying to get NS6 to use java. Whenever I go to a page that
uses java, it offers to download the plugin. OK, fine. But my
dial-up connection isn't entirely reliable for a 13MB download.
So after several aborted attempts due to random disconnects, I
figure out what it's trying to download and from where and just
set up wget to download it. Now I have this 13MB "jre.xpi" file,
but no way to tell NS6 that I already have it so it stops
pestering me about downloading the plugin. It turns out jre.xpi
is just a big zip file, so I unzip it and add the appropriate
directories to my CLASSPATH, drop the symlinks in my plugin
directory, etc. But NS6 still can't find it and still wants to
download the friggin' plugin off the net.
Is there a way to install the the plugin without using the "user
friendly" download method? If so, how?
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Convert Word-DOC to PostScript
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 20:08:50 -0600
"[BRDLocutus" wrote:
> can anyone here tell me where to find a Linux-Tool to convert Word Documents
> to PS (PDF would be ok, too) ?
StarOffice can do that by printing to a postscript file. A
command-line conversion tool would be nice, but I don't know of
any.
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
Subject: Re: how to upgrade from workstation to server
Date: 1 Feb 2001 10:37:50 GMT
lupei ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
[ a "networked workstation" that can not be accessed really doesn't make
[ sense.
i believe that this option refers to a PC that has a LAN card, and your
install would have to detect that card so that the end result is a fully
functional Linux PC on a LAN
i was also confused by RH's terminology :-)
--
jazz
Registered linux user no. 164098 +--+--+--+ Litestep user no. 386
Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
--- OUT THERE??
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From: Mat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Nie uruchamia mi sie smbd...
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 12:08:23 +0100
Czesc,
probuje uruchomic sambe (2.0.7 na RedHat 7.0),
robie wiec tak:
/etc/rc.d/init.d/smb start
dostaje w odpowiedzi:
SIOCADDRT: Plik istnieje
SIOCADDRT: Plik istnieje
Starting SMB services: [OK]
Starting NMB services:
pozniej robie:
ps -A | grep mbd
i widze tylko nmbd (dwukrotnie)
W pliku /var/log/samba/smb.log mam nastepujacy wpis:
lib/util_sock.c: open_socket_in(863)
bind failed on port 139 socket_addr=0.0.0.0 (Adres jest juz w uzyciu)
Samba oczywiscie nie dziala. Co robic?
Z gory dziekuje za wszelkie wskazowki, gdyby moj problem byl wyjasniony
w FAQ-u,
bardzo prosze o namiar na niego,
pozdrawiam,
Maciek
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