Linux-Misc Digest #989, Volume #20 Sat, 10 Jul 99 12:13:07 EDT
Contents:
Re: Linux jingle ("AlfOS")
Re: kpackage won't install on RH 6.0. Help!! ("Spotillius Maximus aka \"Spot\"")
Re: mounting Solaris partition ("Iftach Amit")
Re: Can you hurt Linux as a user? (Robert Heller)
Re: CIA assassinations (Stefaan A Eeckels)
Re: X Windows (Silviu Minut)
Re: Can you hurt Linux as a user? (Robert Heller)
Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? ("Chad Mulligan")
Bermuda triangle in my machine? (Sam Cable)
Re: Glade manual? (Rene' Seindal)
Re: Kppp/pppd probs (Mark Murphy)
Re: KDE Defaukt WM on RH 6.0 (Al)
Re: Amiga announces Linux kernel is new Amiga kernal - Opinions? (William Burrow)
Linux and automount (Ean W-S)
Re: crontab, specify last day of month? (Big John)
Re: Problems mounting a zip disk (Stewart Honsberger)
Re: My Linux box was hacked! (Robert Komar)
Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (Joseph T. Adams)
Sound Help ("Core_Dump yahoo" <".>com">)
/bin/df doesn't work on RAID disk (Rodolphe)
Re: Cant get Creative Ensoniq AudioPCI to work ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Pronouncing "Linux" - dirty Yank cant pronounce (Duane Hellums)
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From: "AlfOS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux jingle
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 13:25:21 GMT
What about Screaming Jets Better!
Say you never get anyway, they don't care, it's just not fair, but you know
and
I know better!
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From: "Spotillius Maximus aka \"Spot\"" <*****@ix.netcom.com>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.windows.x.kde
Subject: Re: kpackage won't install on RH 6.0. Help!!
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 08:56:36 -0400
Albert Wagner wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Sorry, thought of this after previous reply already sent. You might
>subscribe to linux.redhat.rpm newsgroup.
>
Thanks, that did it. They had just released a newer version and it
installed perfectly. Now, I have kpackage working, but, how do you get it
to open automatically when you click on an rpm file? It worked like that in
RH 5.2. Thanks for all the help.
Ed
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From: "Iftach Amit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mounting Solaris partition
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 16:12:53 +0200
yup, recompile with the sun partition enabled and sun os device and you will
then see every slice as a different partition...
Kin Man Yau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7m5prg$i3a$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> I installed Solaris 7 and RedHat 6.0 (2.2.5 kernel). I tried to mount
> Solaris partitions using ufstype=sun, but it doesn't work. I noticed
> that I cannot see the slices of the big solaris partition at boot up.
> Does that mean I have to recomplie the kernel so it can recongize
> solaris x86 partitions? Thanks a lot for any help.
>
> --
> Charles
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can you hurt Linux as a user?
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 13:28:42 GMT
Andrew Arbon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Fri, 9 Jul 1999 23:30:19 +0100, wrote :
AA> Hello,
AA>
AA> If you are logged on as a normal user, and provided you haven't altered
AA> any of the standard options; is it possible to damage the system
AA> deliberately/accidentally?
Assuming normal / standard file protections and assuming did not do
interesting things in /etc/group, no. At worst, you'll just trash your
own (user) files.
Oh, if you power off the computer or push the reset button while the
system is up and running, it is *slightly* possible to cause minor
problems with the file system(s). And if things are set up to allow
user mounting of the floppy disk and you pop a disk out *without*
unmounting the floppy's file system, the system will be confused (but not
really damaged, except that the next user won't be able to use the
floppy drive without doing a re-boot). None of this is generally
*fatal*, mostly just annoying for the next user (running fsck during boot
up, having to re-boot to use the floppy)...
AA>
AA> Thanks,
AA> --
AA> Andrew Arbon
AA>
AA> A bus station is where a bus stops.
AA> A train station is where a train stops.
AA> On my desk I have an NT work station.....
AA>
--
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Robert Heller ||InterNet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://vis-www.cs.umass.edu/~heller || [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stefaan A Eeckels)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: CIA assassinations
Date: 10 Jul 1999 11:02:19 GMT
In article <7m7227$l7p$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Kulisz) writes:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Larry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>On 9 Jul 1999 08:59:01 GMT, Richard Kulisz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Computers are a result of Department of Defense funding. For the
> past 4 decades, the Pentagon has consistently funded about half
> of the *world*'s research and development in computers. The rest
> is funded by monopolies like IBM, Siemens-Phillips and consortiums
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
It's Siemens, Philips... No love lost between these two (one is
Dutch, the other German).
> of Japanese corporations.
>
--
Stefaan
--
PGP key available from PGP key servers (http://www.pgp.net/pgpnet/)
___________________________________________________________________
Perfection is reached, not when there is no longer anything to add,
but when there is no longer anything to take away. -- Saint-Exup�ry
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From: Silviu Minut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: X Windows
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 09:30:25 -0400
Silviu Minut wrote:
> xf86config prompts you if you want virtual screen or not when you choose the
> modes.
> XF86Config doesn't do that.
^^^^^^^^^^^^
I meant XF86Setup doesn't do that.
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can you hurt Linux as a user?
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 13:28:43 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Smith),
In a message on 9 Jul 1999 23:39:50 GMT, wrote :
CS> On 9 Jul 1999 23:15:34 GMT, Big Daddy
CS> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
CS> >Andrew Arbon was talking... AGAIN...
CS> >: If you are logged on as a normal user, and provided you haven't altered
CS> >: any of the standard options; is it possible to damage the system
CS> >: deliberately/accidentally?
CS> >
CS> >By "standard options", I presume that you have NOT given the said user any
CS> >other special permissions... In that case, I don't imagine there's a whole
CS> >lot you can do to mess up the system... you can mess up your own user
CS> >account, perhaps, real bad, but not the main system.
CS>
CS> Most distributions don't enforce quotas or ulimits by default, you'll
CS> need to turn those options on.
CS>
CS> By default an ordinary user will be able to fork bomb the system, fill
CS> all the RAM and fill the home and tmp file systems. All easily stopped
CS> using quotas and ulimits.
None of which will *damage* anything. Annoying, yes.
CS>
CS> --
CS> |Colin Smith: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Windows 2000: |
CS> | Linux: Evolution in action. | The Zeppelin of |
CS> | http://www.linux.org/ | operating systems.|
CS>
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Robert Heller ||InterNet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Chad Mulligan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,omp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark?
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 17:31:27 -0700
I R A Aggie wrote in message ...
>On 7 Jul 1999 18:38:32 GMT, Fredrich P. Maney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, in
><7m06r8$lgm$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>+ from WWII. As for the USA benefitting from WWII, have you even *read*
>+ history concerning the war and just how many US troops died? If I remember
>+ the population numbers of England correctly, it was more than your entire
>+ country (not just your combat dead, but your whole country).
>
>In a word: Bullshit. The costliest US war, in terms of lives lost was the
>US Civil War. Please stop while you're behind.
Correct. Mr. Maney doesn't have his numbers correct either, Isn't the population of
London > 8M, that would put the US dead in the 10+M, Didn't happen.
>
>James
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From: Sam Cable <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.answer
Subject: Bermuda triangle in my machine?
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 09:13:40 -0500
Hi All.
I am running RH6.0. I was goofing around in my home space doing some
pretty
mundane things (I had Netscape going and maybe the internet connection
was
up -- can't even remember). I opened a terminal and logged in as root
to do
a few admin things. Looking around (before doing anything at all) I
suddenly
realized that my home space
had disappeared! Logging out completely (which was a bit of a trick,
since I couldn't
anymore using the desktop menu) and then loggin back in as root, i ran
linuxconf and saw that I was still registered as a user, but linuxconf
could not find my
home space. i set it back up again w/ linuxconf.
I had alot of it backed up so it's not a major disaster, just a major
annoyance.
But I would like to prevent this in the future. This *would* be a
disaster if it
happened to the root space! So if anyone has any ideas about why this
happened
and what there is to be done about it, I would really appreciate hearing
them.
Thanks for your help.
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From: Rene' Seindal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Glade manual?
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 15:24:45 +0200
I don't think there are any manuals. It is trial and error, but it
isn't all that difficult.
My greatest problem in the beginning was to create a normal top-level
window, until I realised (with a bit help) that it is on the top left of
the widget palette. I was searching the menus in the project window.
I use 0.50, BTW. Works fine once you get the hang of it.
Guillermo wrote:
> =
> Where can I find glade manuals?
> =
> Thanks a million
> =
> guillermo
-- =
Ren=E9 Seindal ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.seindal.dk/rene/
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From: Mark Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,ch.comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.windows.x.kde,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat.ppp
Subject: Re: Kppp/pppd probs
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 09:51:26 -0400
Take a look at: http://axion.physics.ubc.ca/ppp-linux.html
Al Kooz wrote:
>
> I'm trying to use kppp to connect to my ISP and it doesn't work. first it
> dials then the usual noise, and then it says that pppd unexpectingly died
> and I get disconnected. I don't know what to do, can anybody help me?
>
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From: Al <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KDE Defaukt WM on RH 6.0
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 10:29:59 -0400
Thanks for the info. KDE appears to run faster than Gnome under RH 6.0.
Did red
hat provided the latest KDE code. Also I enabled sound but nothing is
happening.
Thanks
Al
Big Daddy wrote:
> Al was talking... AGAIN...
> : How do I make KDE my default window manager in my Red Hat 6.0 system.
>
> see thread "kde log in" by John E. Hagensieker.
>
> --
> Big Daddy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Subject: Re: Amiga announces Linux kernel is new Amiga kernal - Opinions?
Date: 10 Jul 1999 14:09:48 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 10 Jul 1999 08:41:52 GMT,
Stefan Ehlen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <qpxh3.15266$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne) writes:
>>>> Today it was announced that the Linux kernal will be used in the new
>>>> Amigas.
>>
>> There are mixed reports; dunno which of these two are the "most
>> authoritative."
>>
>> <http://www.qnx.com/amiga/> Delivering on Our Promise to the Amiga
>> Community
>>
>> <http://www.amiga.com/diary/executive/linux-e.html> Amiga Executive
>> Update - Amiga to use Linux
>
>It's the second one:
No, its both now. Too bad for QNX, couldn've been their 15 minutes of
glory.
--
William Burrow -- New Brunswick, Canada o
Copyright 1999 William Burrow ~ /\
~ ()>()
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From: Ean W-S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux and automount
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 10:12:57 -0400
Hi,
Is there an automounter system for linux?
Is there one in the pipeline?
Why is there no automounter?
Ean
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From: Big John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: crontab, specify last day of month?
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 14:22:10 GMT
In article <7m495k$8e2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse) wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Paul Smicker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Make 3 crontab entries with the same command: one that runs 28'th in
the
> month of February, one that runs on 30'th in the short months and one
> that runs in 31'st in the long months. And then try figure out about
> how to handle 29 Feb next year.
>
> Villy
As I understand it, 2000 is *not* a leap year. Any Century year
that is evenly divisable by 4, the leap day (Feb 29) is skiped.
So your solution works till 2004
Big John
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Subject: Re: Problems mounting a zip disk
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 14:01:49 GMT
On Fri, 9 Jul 1999 23:08:39 -0400, Charles Sullivan wrote:
>Perhaps you were previously using ZIP disks initialized under Linux.
I've got one ZIP disk I created as ext2 under Linux - because I couldn't
mount any of the IBM formatted disks.
>For whatever reason, these IBM formatted ZIP disks are set as the 4th
>partition.
The question is either "How?" or "Why?". I'm not sure which yet. :>
>What happens if you type:
> mount -t vfat /dev/hdc4 /mnt/zip
Or, more simply,
mount /dev/hdd4 /zip
W/O specifying an FS type, Linux found it.
--
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
Humming along under SuSE Linux 6.0 / OS/2 Warp 4
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From: Robert Komar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.security.unix
Subject: Re: My Linux box was hacked!
Date: 10 Jul 1999 14:28:07 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc mist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Chris Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribed to us that -
:>I was apparently (successfully) attacked by a hacker, who created accounts
:>(dave and ddave) on my Linux box with root access, and then modified my
:>files (don't know how or why). What flaws in the version of Redhat Linux
:>that I was using were exploited (I use 5.1), and are they known? Can I fix
:>the damage that was done easily? I removed telnet and ftp from inetd.conf
:>to completely disallow telnet and ftp access as a result of this attack;
:>is this adequate?
:>
: No, not really.
: So you removed Telnet but left in imapd and rshd? If I were you, I'd
: comment out everything from /etc/inetd.conf and then only add in
: services that you know you need.
: You'll also need to reinstall the box *whilst you're offline*. The
: modified files changed many of the system commands like login and so-on
: so that the hacker can get back in again. You'll need to put that
: right, and the only really safe way is to scrub the box and start again.
: You should also check the Redhat errata to upgrade the components that
: the hacker exploited. If you're still using the original 5.1 components
: then you'll need to upgrade a fair few bits, especially imapd if you
: need that.
: Some of his actions were obvious, but that doesn't mean that others
: were.
: --
: Mist.
...and change all your passwords on all the machines on your LAN if they
were being passed around unencrypted. If he had that sniffer running,
then he may have logged passwords from telnet and ftp sessions anywhere
on the LAN.
Cheers,
Rob Komar
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joseph T. Adams)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,omp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark?
Date: 10 Jul 1999 14:17:58 GMT
Anthony Ord ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: >Another might be that the top X military and/or economic powers had to
: >be involved. It's a good bet that, even back then, the U.S. would be
: >included there even for relatively small values of X.
:
: What if all the top X military and economic powers were all
: in Europe? According to your definition a European War would
: then become a world war.
:
: But, let's go with your definition.
:
: Q. When was the First World War?
:
: A. Sometime in the Napoleonic Era.
Nope. Read about the Roman Republic and Empire. Several of its
conflicts, including the Punic Wars IIRC, were similar in scope, and
even destructiveness to human life (adjusting for the smaller world
population at the time), than WWI. And this in spite of the fact that
Rome was unchallenged, and unchallengable, by any single external
power. Usually, opponents like Attila and Hannibal were able to
profit from the extreme discontent of folks in conquered territories
that Rome already considered to be under control.
Joe
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From: "Core_Dump <aminox<@>yahoo" <".>com">
Subject: Sound Help
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 10:45:55 -0400
Reply-To: "aminox<@>yahoo com" <.>
Hi there Y'all ,
I'm running RH6.0 on a Thinkpad 1720. It uses NeoMagic 256 AV(which
integrates audio and video).
Now, for some reason i can't install a sound server , the funny part is
that I was able to do it in RH5.2, since I upgraded to 6.0 1 1/2 months
ago, I can't get the sound server running. I've tried everything but
nothing seems to work. Please any ideas or similar problems?
Regards,
Reuben
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From: Rodolphe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: /bin/df doesn't work on RAID disk
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 16:37:52 +0200
hi,
I've set up 2 scsi disks in an array using RAID 1 (using RedHat 6.0,
kernel 2.2.5-22). I've also recomiled the kernel as I need to have raid
1 built in in order to boot on the raid array.
The array works fine (as I can see from /proc/mdstat) but df doesn't
give me the disk usage.
It's very annoying ! Does someone encounter this problem ? How can I
solve it ?
TIA,
Rodolphe
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Cant get Creative Ensoniq AudioPCI to work
Date: 10 Jul 1999 14:51:19 GMT
I use ALSA with Ensoniq PCIaudio, RH6.0 2.2.15-22 kernel (custom compiled).
I am completely satisfied.
Muuga wrote:
>
> Alot of ppl swear by this card(thats why I bought it), but it doesnt
> configure too well under linux.
>
> Under Win98 its irq=11 I/O=220 DMA=1
> of course it works great under windoze :/
>
> this is what it looks like under /proc/pci
>
> #PCI devices found: Bus 0, device 10, function 0:
> # Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq Unknown device (rev 6).
> # Vendor id=1274. Device id=1371. Slow devsel. IRQ 11. Master
> #Capable. Latency=64. Min Gnt=12.Max Lat=128. I/O at 0xe800.
>
> and /etc/conf.modules
>
> #alias sound sb
> #options -k sb io=0x220 irq=11 dma=1
>
> I running RH 5.1 with a recompliled 2.0.37 kernel
> on a FIC 503+ k6 300
> I must have recompiled 2 dozen times(just for the sound section of make
> menuconfig , since I got the card.
>
> i get this on boot up :
> #Sound initialization started
> #Sound initialization complete
> not once did I get something in between :(
>
> maybe im missing something in the sound configuration part of compilation?
>
> CONFIG_SOUND=y
> CONFIG_SB=y
> CONFIG_AUDIO=y
> CONFIG_YM3812=y
> SBC_BASE=220
> SBC_IRQ=11
> SBC_DMA=1
> SB_DMA2=-1
> SB_MPU_BASE=388
> SB_MPU_IRQ=-1
> DSP_BUFFSIZE=65536
>
> if you have this card and got it working under linux , please tell me how
> you have you box configured.
> Thanks
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Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 11:02:10 -0500
From: Duane Hellums <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Pronouncing "Linux" - dirty Yank cant pronounce
I thought Jesus spoke Hebrew. The only thing prejudiced in this silly
discussion is the conceited, self-centered opinion of certain
fair-skinned, English-speaking individuals that Jesus, and any other
important historical figures for that matter, was as fair-skinned as
they are, and speak English natively, as if it were the only intelligent
or useful language on the planet. Jesus was born and raised in the
Middle East--do you think he might look and talk like people from the
Middle East? Hmm? How ironic it would be if he had a southern drawl
and liked hot dogs and french fries... but it's not probable.
D
Chris Mahmood wrote:
> if English was good enough for Jesus, it's good enough for you...
> -ckm
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