Linux-Misc Digest #994, Volume #19 Fri, 30 Apr 99 12:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: Calibri Firewall/Router on Ebay. (John Navas)
Re: Accessing the serial port under Linux? (fred smith)
Linux Software Archive + more (Never spam a hacker)
Re: Idea: Make a seperate "i686" tree for Redhat Linux 6.0 (Geoff McCaughan)
Re: I have to save my system (Jim Howes)
Re: LOCALHOST question...whoa baby! (Rick)
Linux User Group Meeting, Davis, May 3rd (William Kendrick)
Program to play Radio Jingles (Mark Broadbent)
Re: I have to save my system (Roger Sondermann)
Moving Linux to a new hard disk? (Tom Hall)
distributing webbased e-mail ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
memory problems ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Simple Netscape Questions (Jim Bailey)
Re: VMware sell-out to Microsoft??? ("Edwin E. Thorne")
Re: Where to get glibc2 source... (Wayne D. Hoxsie Jr.)
Re: Idiot Seeks Help 2: filesystem not unmounting (Bob Martin)
X-isp complie error (Samuel AU)
Re: 3D Icons. (Terry Soucy)
Re: I have to save my system (Roger Sondermann)
Re: Question (Tom Hall)
GIMP/lxDoom (Al)
Re: Telnet Login as ROOT (M Sweger)
Re: Windows NT vs. Linux testing by mindcraft (Jerry Lynn Kreps)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Navas)
Crossposted-To:
comp.dcom.modems.cable,comp.dcom.xdsl,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.security.firewalls
Subject: Re: Calibri Firewall/Router on Ebay.
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 07:04:54 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[POSTED TO comp.dcom.modems.cable]
"Jack Levin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[SNIP]
Please do not post eBay or other auction ads here. This is not even a
forsale newsgroup, much less a newsgroup for auction ads. (Ads of any kind
generally belong only in newsgroups that specifically allow them; e.g.,
misc.forsale.computers.* -- for more information, see
<ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/misc.forsale.computers.discussion/Misc.FS+Biz.Mktplc_ADVERTISING_FAQ--INFO_FOR_NEW_USERS>.)
Thank you for your consideration.
--
Best regards,
John mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.aimnet.com/~jnavas/
28800-56K Modem FAQ: http://www.aimnet.com/~jnavas/modem/faq.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (fred smith)
Subject: Re: Accessing the serial port under Linux?
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 23:09:18 GMT
=?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= T Johansen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Hi.
: I am writing a small C-program that will run under Linux that wil read
: data from the serialport. Writing this program seems fairly easy, but my
: problem is: how do I test it? I don't have a modem or 2 computers, so I
: was wondering how can I send data to the COM port, that I can read using
: my program?
Make or purchase a short null-modem cable then connect it between two
serial ports on the same box. On one VC (or in one xterm) open up a
terminal program and transmit stuff out the port. The program you're
testing, which is running on the other port, should receive the
input.
You can verify the setup, before starting your test program, by running
a terminal program on both ports. Stuff typed on one should appear on
the other's screen and vice-versa.
Fred
--
---- Fred Smith -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----------------------------
But God demonstrates his own love for us in this:
While we were still sinners,
Christ died for us.
=============================== Romans 5:8 (niv) ==============================
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Never spam a hacker)
Subject: Linux Software Archive + more
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:33:49 GMT
Hi
http://members.xoom.com/myvillage/linux
includes a new Linux Help Forum for beginners and advanced users. This
forum is still new, so start posting. But the main feature of this
site is its software archive for Linux. It will soon be having a
search engine but it currently neatly categorized.
Check out this site now.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Geoff McCaughan)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Idea: Make a seperate "i686" tree for Redhat Linux 6.0
Date: 16 Apr 1999 21:08:37 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Christopher Browne ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On 8 Apr 1999 17:07:45 -0400, Alexander Viro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>not if you're from a commonwealth country - which includes new zealand
> >>(where is the old zealand btw?). in *english* (as opposed to american
> > ^^^^^^^ - Zeeland.
> >
> > Gaak... Across the North Sea (looking from England, that is).
> >Netherlands. Heck, they *really* don't teach history and geography
> >in schools, or what?
>
> Not even in commonwealth countries... :-(
>
> I was not aware of that; the surprising factor is that it was named
> after a "foreign" nation, or am I showing *complete* ignorance in being
> unaware of a transition of New Zealand from Dutch control to English
> control?
NZ was named by Abel Tasman, but it was never under Dutch control. The next
European on the scene was James Cook, almost 100 years later.
I'm not sure what you mean by "named after a foreign nation". Zeeland is not
a nation, and it was not foreign to Tasman.
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From: Jim Howes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I have to save my system
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:00:35 +0100
tar will preserve symbolic links and file ownership. There
are other ways, but I always seem to come back to tar.
If you have your old partition on /old and your new one on /new,
you can do...
cd /old
cp /old/etc/passwd /old/etc/group /etc
tar cf - . | (cd /new ; tar xpf - )
The passwd and group file copy is necessary if you want tar to
retain file ownership (a lot of things won't work if you don't)
because tar records ownership in terms of user/group name, not
UID/GID, so needs a valid passwd/group file to convert back on
the restore.
If you had lilo on your old partition, you probably want to install
it on the new one too. This is best done when your new disk is set
up to be where it is going to be in terms of primary/secondary master/
slave. When you have done that, you can run lilo from your bootdisk
by mounting it in, say, /new, and doing..
sync
lilo -r /new -C /etc/lilo.conf
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rick)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.questions,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: LOCALHOST question...whoa baby!
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 07:54:32 -0400
brian moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Apr 1999 21:40:11 -0400,
> Jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I've noticed that my host name has been changing after an undetermined
> > amount of time, usually after having worked on top of the X server for
> > some time. Normally, my box is named LOCALHOST, i.e. [ROOT@LOCALHOST
> > /ROOT] or [USER@LOCALHOST /HOME]. After time, however, I've noticed
> > that the name will change to a alpha-numeric type, usually something
> > like "core10d46". It always starts with "core", then has a
> > 2-digit/"d"/2-digit sequence following thereafter.
>
> Like:
> [thorin:~] 8:48:31pm 62 % host 209.150.110.103
> Name: core13d103.toad.net
> Address: 209.150.110.103
>
> > Does anyone know where this might be coming from? Is this a bug that
> > needs to be updated? Does this come from multiple su changes? Does it
> > have something to do with my core dump? It is a consistent problem that
> > I would like to solve. I've noticed that it causes other errors, such
> > as not allowing me to run certain commands, like,
> > /etc/cron.daily/updatedb.cron, almost as if the system recognizes this
> > as another user or machine that doesn't have the permissions or $PATH
> > necessary to perform these commands.
>
> Nope, that's the name that your ISP has assigned to the dynamic IP
> you're on.
>
> You must be using RH: by default, their ppp setup will rename your
> system when you connect to your ISP -if- your systemname is
> 'localhost.localdomain'.
>
> The trick is to go in an add whatever-it-is-you-want-to-name-your-system
> in /etc/hosts as an alias for localhost. Then it will see you have a
> 'proper' name and will cease doing that.
>
> Do note that this -may- have repercussions (things like sendmail will
> think the new address is your real domain, for example), but they
> probably won't matter much because in most cases using a dynamic name
> instead of a proper name is wrong anyway (sending mail would have the
> wrong return address since you don't always get the same dynamic IP).
>
So, I can put, say... home.com in the hosts file, and it wont srew up my
mail? I am using sendmail for send and POP3 for receive.. at leats thats
the way it is set up on my machine.
> > Any information will be greatly appreciated,
> > and will be rewarded in turn with the appropriate alcoholic remedy...
> > ;)
>
> Scotch. It's been a long week.
Drambuie. Better.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Kendrick)
Crossposted-To:
ucd.general,ucd.life,ucd.cs.club,ucd.cs.programming,ucd.cs.ugrad,ucd.cs.grad,ucd.ece.ieee,ucd.org.asme,ucd.org.swe
Subject: Linux User Group Meeting, Davis, May 3rd
Date: 30 Apr 1999 08:01:50 GMT
WHAT:
=====
LUGOD: The Linux User Group of Davis
WHEN:
=====
Monday, May 3rd, 1999
6:30pm
WHERE:
======
Steve's Place Pizza
314 F Street
Davis, CA
530-758-2800
(We have reserved the back room)
WHY:
----
Topics will include:
* News and open forum
* Committess:
GLUE
UCD RESNET HOWTO: First Draft
UCD-PPP HOWTO: Final Draft
Social Tax Exempt Group Status
Highschool Project: Result of first contact
LUGOD Logo
Ambassador to other LUGs: Dates, times of local LUG meetings
* Guest Speakers:
Adam Steffes: "Free-BSD: History and an overview"
* Topics:
CD Library and getting Linux distributions
Changes to the constitution
UCD, Davis Library and Davis City reserved rooms
Linux InstallFest Interest meeting
Govertment Technology Conferences (GTC), May 12-14
WHO:
----
LUGOD is open to all members of the public.
HOW:
----
For more information about LUGOD, please visit our website:
http://www.lugod.org/
If you have any other questions, feel free to contact me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
=============================================================================
sys (Vice Chairperson) Bill Kendrick
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.lugod.org/ http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/bill/
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From: Mark Broadbent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Program to play Radio Jingles
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:54:06 +0100
Hi
I help run the computer system for a small student radion station. I
was wondering if anybody knew of a program that would allow us to play
jingles, a way of grouping jingles into catagories and have a _really_
easy to use interface.
Thanks
Mark
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roger Sondermann)
Subject: Re: I have to save my system
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:16:40 GMT
At Fri, 30 Apr 1999 00:51:57 GMT, Darren Greer wrote:
>-->How can I copy all files and directories without losing symbolic
>-->links, etc.?
>You could tar the directory tree like so:
>
>tar -cvf directory.tar /directory
>
>Or you could just copy them like so:
>
>cp -pR /directory /newdirectory
>
>Although the latter may put directory like so:
> /newdirectory/directory
>
>Tar will probably be easier for you. You could also give tar the
>-cvhf call which will treat symlinks as the actuall files, thus
>changing them from symlinks to files.
>
>Do a man on tar/cp and see what best fits your situation,
This is my main problem. I'm absolutely new to Linux and I don't know
how often I can try with different settings until the drive is dead.
I really need the command for cp to copy the whole partition and to use
it on the new one.
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From: Tom Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Moving Linux to a new hard disk?
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:21:20 +0100
I currently have Linux (redhat 5.2 with 2.2.6 kernel) on my hard disk, I
will shortly be receiving my new 18Gb hard disk and I'm looking to move
linux over to the new hard disk (which will replace the old one), now is
it possible to just create the partitions on the new hd and then use cp
to copy *everything* over to the new partition, and have it all work as
before. If not, whats the best way to do this ?
many thanks
--
tom
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: distributing webbased e-mail
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:13:41 GMT
eBizmail is the Europeen subsidiary of Postoffice.Net.
All info on this unique product is to be found on : htt://ebizmail.ppo.net
We are looking for companys who would like to distribute thisd product on the
business to business market.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: memory problems
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:05:14 GMT
Please helpme I hope this is the right place for this message anyway
here goes I am very very new to red hats v5.2 linux system I have a
win95 machine with 64m of memory and an s_3 trio64 video card 512k
cache and a cyrix P166 processor, I notice with the free command that
the system was only seeing about 8M so on startup I added the mem=64M
(and mem=32M) command and on startup (which is booted fromn a floppy )
the system halts with a memory or cpu dump, as I say I am very new
whats happening can you help!!
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From: Jim Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Simple Netscape Questions
Date: 30 Apr 1999 12:41:03 GMT
Hi Folks - sorry about the basic questions - I have tried to answer them
on my own but am getting nowhere fast.
I have whatever Netscape Communicator comes with RH5.2. I'd be more
exact but the Help menu reveals nothing about version info.
1. How can I get some larger fonts. Wearing my glasses and using a
magnifying glass is not acceptable - this applys to navigator - news -
mail.
2. I can't seem to find any way in the news reader to say 'mark all
messages as read' after I've picked through what I want each time, so
they don't show up next time.
3. I can't seem to find how to set permanent preferences (again - news
reader) e.g. I always want all messages (unread only) to show up,
expanded, sorted by subject, and indented.
Thanks
-- jim bailey
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From: "Edwin E. Thorne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: VMware sell-out to Microsoft???
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 17:06:57 -0500
Geoff McCaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7f89el$rek$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Edwin E. Thorne ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >
> > Do you know of anyone who has walked completely away from Windows on
other
> > than a server or a home machine?
>
> Yep, my main work machine runs Linux, and my home and server machines as
> well.
What kind of work do you do on your computer?
> > Can you really give up the vast amount
> > of Windows software?
>
> Easily. I use the vast amount of Linux software.
There's a vast amount of Linux software? The same amount as Windows has,
and of the same quality?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wayne D. Hoxsie Jr.)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: Where to get glibc2 source...
Date: 30 Apr 1999 14:11:29 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <Pine.LNX.4.10.9904301014510.9223-100000@darkstar>,
Donn Miller wrote:
>Actually, I have it, but I have only glibc-2.0.6. I saw where ftp.gnu.org
>and most mirrors have only up to version 2.0.6. This is pretty
>frustrating, as I know there was a version 2.0.7 as of last Oct. I know
>there's a version 2.1.0, but due to some ridiculous conflict of political
>interest, most servers don't have it(!!).
>
>Anyone know why gnu doesn't have any version of glibc greater than 2.0.6
>available on its servers? At least they could provide 2.0.[7-9].
>
>Also, I'm getting seg faults when I try to run the glibc2 version of
>Netscape. Apparently, it was linked with a glibc2 version a little more
>recent than what I have (like maybe it was linked with glibc-2.0.8).
>Obviously, Netscape hasn't done too much testing with the glibc2 version
>of Netscape. But if I run the highest-numbered glibc available, like
>2.1.0, I should have backward compatibility with programs linked w/ lower
>numbered versions, like say glibc-2.0.8, hopefully...
>
>I know where the seg faults are coming from: anytime a program is linked
>with a different release of glibc2 than what I have, they seg fault. Come
>on GNU, where's that v. 2.1.0? :-(
The latest can be had from ftp://alpha.gnu.org
--
Wayne D. Hoxsie Jr. KG9ME | Small wheel turn by the fire and rod,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Big wheel turn by the grace of God,
http://www.hoxnet.com | Every time that wheel turn 'round,
PGP Key ID 138BCEE1 | Bound to cover just a little more ground.
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 19:08:58 -0500
From: Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Idiot Seeks Help 2: filesystem not unmounting
shutdown - h now should cleanly unmount the file systems ( it does for me ) .
Dave Tansley wrote:
> Second problem I've encountered:
>
> - Root not cleanly unmounting. Everytime I boot the system, it reports that
> hda5 (the root
> partition) was not cleanly unmounted, asks me if I wish to continue, and
> then does a
> scan of the disk, which takes time. Is this normal? Presumably not. Any
> ideas why this
> might happen? I always shutdown with shutdown -h now....something that may
> be related:
> when I try to reboot with shutdown -r now, the machine hangs after saying
> "The system is
> now rebooting" (or whatever)
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> --
> Dave
>
> ICQ: 20806179
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home)
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From: Samuel AU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: X-isp complie error
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 18:51:47 +0800
Hi,
I'm running RedHat 5.2 2.0.36-3. When I complie xisp-2.5p4, I get the
following error message :
pcode.o: In function 'pencode':
pcode.o(.text+0xd9):undefined reference to 'setkey'
pcode.o(.text+0xf7):undefined reference to 'encrypt'
pcode.o: In function 'pdecode':
pcode.o(.text+0x141):undefined reference to 'setkey'
pcode.o(.text+0x15f):undefined reference to 'encrypt'
How can I solve this problem?
Thanks in advance.
Samuel
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From: Terry Soucy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat.rpm,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,linux.redhat.rpm,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: 3D Icons.
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:49:26 +0000
Leigh Morresi wrote:
>
> Were can i get snzy 10x10 roughly 3D icons?
>
> Or, what app is goof for generating my own little 3d buttons etc..,
> kinda like in most Enlightenment themes?
>
> Check out http://moonwire.cjb.net ive got that lookn like a really good
> e. Theme :)
> what do you reckon?
>
> Moonlite
>
> .-----------------------------------------------------------.
> |http://moonwire.cjb.net Leigh Morresi [EMAIL PROTECTED]|
> `-----------------------------------------------------------'
I use a combination of Blender and gimp for my icons.
Terry
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roger Sondermann)
Subject: Re: I have to save my system
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:20:14 GMT
At Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:00:35 +0100, Jim Howes wrote:
>tar will preserve symbolic links and file ownership. There
>are other ways, but I always seem to come back to tar.
>
>If you have your old partition on /old and your new one on /new,
>you can do...
>
> cd /old
> cp /old/etc/passwd /old/etc/group /etc
> tar cf - . | (cd /new ; tar xpf - )
>
>The passwd and group file copy is necessary if you want tar to
>retain file ownership (a lot of things won't work if you don't)
>because tar records ownership in terms of user/group name, not
>UID/GID, so needs a valid passwd/group file to convert back on
>the restore.
Thanks a lot. Can you tell me the whole extract command, too?
>If you had lilo on your old partition, you probably want to install
>it on the new one too. This is best done when your new disk is set
>up to be where it is going to be in terms of primary/secondary master/
>slave. When you have done that, you can run lilo from your bootdisk
>by mounting it in, say, /new, and doing..
>
> sync
> lilo -r /new -C /etc/lilo.conf
I use loadlin and know what to do with the *.par file. Thanks again.
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From: Tom Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Question
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 16:14:37 +0100
Rizwan Syed wrote:
> Hello Guys and gals,
> I'm somewhat of a newbie with Linux, and probably
> have a newbie question. I need a quick answer so if someone could
> email me please. I need to find out how to make files invisible
> or 'hidden' in linux. If anyone knows, please let me know at your
> earliest convenience.
I believe prefixing the file name with a . (or a period as I believe they call
then in the USA) will do it.
--
tom
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Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:29:16 +0200
From: Al <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: GIMP/lxDoom
I added lots of GIMP scripts and the LxDoom source to my page!
http://gdevridge.webjump.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M Sweger)
Subject: Re: Telnet Login as ROOT
Date: 30 Apr 1999 11:23:19 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Peter Caffin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Rod Roark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: > Brian Schell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: >> I'm looking at moving our server off-site, and need to be able to telnet
: >>in as root. I realize you can't do this as root, so I tried to give a user
: >>account root permissions. I'm not having much luck here... Any specific
: >>suggestions?
Take a look at /etc/securetty and the associated man page.
I believe you just comment out temporarily the root stuff so that you can
login as root. Right now I'm not logged in into my machine to give more.
Howver, it is easy.
--
Mike,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Jerry Lynn Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Windows NT vs. Linux testing by mindcraft
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:18:01 -0500
Kenny McCormack wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ....
> >> When I saw the subject line, I was tempted to cry M$
> >> cronie, but I saw your name attached. :-)
> >> With no room for doubt, M$ rigded the test. This "test"
> >> is more than a phoney benchmark comparison; it is also a
> >> "test" and benchmarch of community respone.
>
> Why are we getting so hyper about this? Can't we just run our own
> test, find Linux superior (it shouldn't be nearly so hard) and publish
> the results? In fact, in keeping with the spirit of free software, we
> won't have to pay nearly as much as M$ did to get a "study" that
> generates the desired result.
Read the following account from unsealed court documents and find out
why:
http://www.calderathin.com/fullstory/factstat.html
Being cavalier about the anti DR-DOS FUD didn't help Digital or Novel
sustain a market presence for a truly superior DOS. AND, the vastly
superior quality of DR-DOS 5 and 6 over MS-DOS 4, 5, and 6 didn't help
it win because quality is not a good counter against media manipulation
using FUD and of M$ illegal marketing strategy. The Linux community
needs to understand that and not under estimate the willingness of some
"journalists", "consultants" and other low-lifes to prostitute
themselves for fame, money and/or other favors.
The response by the Linux community to the Mindcraft FUD attack was
correct.
>
> >> Point being that if such a attach was taken against
> >> a commerical company, they would in fact be frustrated.
> >> Why? Just consider what actions are left to both the CTO
> >> and the head of R&D. They can't respond in person, they are
> >> too busy and if they did it would validate the M$ test.
>
> I don't understand this. What is meant by the phrase "such a[n]
> attach was taken against a commercial company" ?
--
JLK
Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is
right.
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