Linux-Misc Digest #994, Volume #24 Fri, 30 Jun 00 02:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: mind hours in development Linux vs. Windows (Steve Mading)
Re: What is foobar, or foo bar, or whatever...?? (Mary P)
Re: and the web was silent . . . . . (Jesse Drogin)
ipchains and transparent proxy ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
the little mouse that couldn't (Jesse Drogin)
Re: Does Anyone Use GnuCash? ("Robert L. Cochran Jr.")
content filtering ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: GNU/LINUX instead of Microsoft Excel ("Matt Hughes")
Re: Linux Crashes (Shawn Smith)
kernel panic ("beo")
Gaim(aol im) (Paul Eisenberg)
Re: Linux Command. (David M. Cook)
Compact Flash Mem for mp3 player (RCA Lyra) (Dave Brown)
Re: Atari-Harddisk
Re: No space left on device ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: tar.gz question ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: and the web was silent . . . . . ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Gnome vs KDE
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: mind hours in development Linux vs. Windows
Date: 30 Jun 2000 04:07:12 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Charlie Ebert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Yes, Linux wins as it's a world wide effort.
: They have in-excess of 100,000 people working on Linux world wide.
I'm curious, what does this figure count? Kernel-only developers,
or does it include anyone who's worked on the GPL'ed apps that come
with Linux? (100,000 seems a big high for just the kernel hackers,
but a bit low for all people who've ever been on a GPL project.)
--
-- ------------------------------------------------------------------
Steven L. Mading at BioMagResBank (BMRB). UW-Madison
Programmer/Analyst/(acting SysAdmin) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
B1108C, Biochem Addition / 433 Babcock Dr / Madison, WI 53706-1544
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mary P)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: What is foobar, or foo bar, or whatever...??
Date: 30 Jun 2000 04:00:43 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 29 Jun 2000 14:25:47 -0500, Kurt Weber
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> gave us this gift:
>"Thorsten Claus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> I am living in Germany and I also saw saving private Rayan.
>> In the Film they used foobar because
we have a word "furchtbar" ! And I
>> thing Englishmen aren't able to say this
>
>If "furchtbar" is a German word, then it sounds a little bit like
>"furktbar", which is close to that word, but not quite.
This is way off topic but hey.
Interesting to hear the proposal foobar is derived from
furchtbar. It's not impossible.
The way I learned it, it's "fubar." It's another warped
acronym like "snafu," which is "Situation Normal,
All F*cked Up." There are more of course.
Fubar is "F*cked Up Beyond All Repair."
I think they were words coined by American servicemen
in WW II but that could be wrong. I learned them
in college from people whose fathers had been WWII
GIs.
Mary P.
--
_
. .
V
// \\
// \\
(W W)
------------------------------
From: Jesse Drogin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,redhat.general,netscape.public.general
Subject: Re: and the web was silent . . . . .
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 21:17:50 -0700
Jim Harback wrote:
> Jesse,
>
> You need to follow "in detail" the directions given for your specific
> sound card in /usr/src/linux/Documentation/sound.
>
> Good Luck,
>
> Jim
>
> Jesse Drogin wrote:
>
> > I do not get any web sounds and I need the audio to complete my total
> > web experience that I so desparately long for.
> >
> > I am running RedHat Linux 6.2 with Netscape Navigator 4.7
> > The sound card is installed, and I do indeed hear sounds from desktop
> > events. I have to admit the sound quality is very poor and the volume
> > is extreemly low, but I do hear some sounds. Unfortunately, I do not
> > hear any sounds on the web. Mostly I have been listening for sounds
> > from java applets (like yahoo Chess) with no fullfillment.
> > I am very new to Linux (I just installed the OS 2 days ago) so any idea
> > would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks, Jesse Drogin
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I do not have a /usr/src/linux/Documentation directory. Is there some place
I am supposed to get one of these?
-Jesse Drogin
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ipchains and transparent proxy
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 04:14:44 GMT
There are two hosts, host A is a Linux as a ipchains firewall host B is a NT,
which uses Netscape Proxy server for web caching and content filtering
now i would like to apply transparent proxy so that users don't need to
set the proxy server in their browsers
but i find that ipchains can't "redirect" port 80 request to remote host...
> ipchains -A input -p tcp -d 0.0.0.0/0 80 -j REDIRECT 8080
the command above can't "redirect" request to the proxy server on host B
Any suggestions? Provided that I can't use squid on the
firewall.....(customer's request)
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
------------------------------
From: Jesse Drogin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,redhat.general,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: the little mouse that couldn't
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 21:31:41 -0700
I have one of those cool Logitech mice (not the mouseman, it is not
modled, it must be older, just says Logitech) that has the wheel as the
middle third button. That wonderfull button wants to scroll windows for
me but something is wrong (incomplete) with the mouse driver and I only
get the click function. I know the hardware is fine because it scrolls
fine under win98 (now win NT however). I am running Redhat Linux 6.2
and I didn't do any further configurations after the install
autodetected the mouse. Is it possible to activate the scrolling
function for this mouse? If so any suggestions?
Jesse Drogin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
------------------------------
From: "Robert L. Cochran Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Does Anyone Use GnuCash?
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 00:29:52 -0400
Hello,
Thanks for your help. I really appreciate it.
I downloaded the tarball gnucash-1.4.1.tar.gz while logged in as root.
Then I untarred it. This resulted in every file being restored with the
owner set to 'Bob' rather than root which thoroughly confuses me. Why
didn't tar set the ownership and group to root when I untarred? Don't I
need to be root in order to compile and install the application? Don't
these files need to be owned by root?
I did print the README which lists several dependencies as you said.
That yields my final question -- I need a few Perl modules. I have Perl
5.005 installed, but how do I check for a module like
perl-HTML/HTML-Parser-2.20?
Thanks,
Bob Cochran
blowfish wrote:
>
> "Robert L. Cochran Jr." wrote:
> >
> > I'm a new Linux user and would like to know how to install GnuCash. I'd
> > like advice from someone who uses this software. I am running Red Hat
> > 6.2 with kernel version 2.2.16-3, all bug fix and security updates
> > applied. I downloaded gnucash-1.4.1-1.i386.rpm from the ftp site at
> > ftp://ftp.gnucash.org picking the rpm from the Red Hat 6.x directory.
> > How do I install it?
> >
> > Also there is what looks like a brand new GnuCash forum at
> > http://www.gnucash.org and the Linux user's group at
> > http://www.lugod.org had a presentation on using it on June 19, but it
> > does not look like they posted the notes for that topic yet.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Bob Cochran
>
> Better get the tar ball, or the .src.rpm instead of the Bug
> Hat's .rpm.
>
> *You'll need some dependence files. I don't have the file
> names off hand, but if you get the tar ball, it's listed in
> there.
>
> From a terminal:-
>
> The easiest way is to use the tar ball. Untar it, then cd to
> /where_you_untar/to , do a ./configure , then a make , it'll
> tells you if you have all the required files. If not, get
> them, install them first , and repeat the ./configure, make
> process; then, if all goes well,m do a make install (you
> need to su to root for this step), then do a make clean to
> clean up.
>
> If you use the .src.rpm, first cd into /where-the file-is/,
> do a
> rpm --rebuild filename.src.rpm, then do a rpm -i
> filename.rpm (su to root for this)
>
> Alex Lam.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: content filtering
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 04:23:33 GMT
Are there any porn site list over the web
so that I can do content filtering on my firewall, CVP server or proxy?
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
------------------------------
From: "Matt Hughes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: GNU/LINUX instead of Microsoft Excel
Crossposted-To: ne.internet.services
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 04:39:49 GMT
You can export data from Excel using 'Save As' and select a file format
such as "Formatted Text" or "Text". This did a semi-reasonable job on my
buget which I tested with. There may be utilities to extract infomation
from Excel files for Linux out there; see freshmeat.net.
As for doing a departmental directory on Linux, you could use Gnumeric,
which is a reasonaly Excel compliant spreadsheet app that is part of the
Gnome project, www.gnome.org. In fact, Gnumeric might be able to open your
directory and export it. I guess it depends on how complex the file is. If
you wanted to go for a real enterprise level solution, you could serve the
departmental directory from an Apache web server, using PHP4 or something
to generate pages from a Postgres database. You could also get away with
MySQL as a database, since they have recently done away with the
restricitve licence (I belive). I don't know if a library is big enough to
warrent such an undertaking for the departmental directory, but it sure
would be scalable if you needed to add a whole bunch of departments or
something (provided it was designed and implemented correctly).
www.gnome.org/gnumeric
www.apache.org
www.php.net
www.postgresql.org
Matt Hughes
In article <8jh3p8$kiq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Don Saklad) wrote:
> BRLS Boston Regional Library Computer Systems Support Services' Jule
> O'Donnell http://www.bpl.org/brls/about.html#staff
>
> pulled together a Boston Public Library Departmental Directory using
> Microsoft Excel.
>
> 1. Precisely how would a directory on Microsoft Excel be
> converted to plain text and sent in email not as an attachment?...
>
>
> 2. What could Boston Public Library have used for compiling
> a departmental directory on a system running GNU/LINUX ?...
>
>
------------------------------
From: Shawn Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Crashes
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 23:47:28 -0500
On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, The Darkener wrote:
>It sounds like you might have a RAM problem. Throw some new RAM in there and
>see how it works.. Either that or the motherboard, but you said that you
>already changed that with no avail.
I had a similar prob. Ran every diag prog avail. Ran mem tests for days. No
problems found. Replaced everything, only aft memory was replaced was all well
again. Frys tested it and said its fine. I said it has a lifetime warranty
and I want a new one, now. After some bickering they gave it to me. Moral, you
can test your memory and have the tests say it's fine when it is not.
Shawn
>Good luck...
>
>Richard Goldberg wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I've been running linux for years on several different machines. My
>> current machine at work is a PII400 with 196 Mb ram running VA Linux's
>> version of Red Hat. The only interesting piece of software I'm running is
>> VMWare 2.0.1 (with winnt as a virtual machine).
>>
>> After a year or so of almost perfect performance, in the past 1-2
>> months I've had 10-12 "crashes". Some of these crashes have been something
>> strange happening in KDE (like I can no longer interact with any
>> windows), so I try to logout and it just hands on me. I switch to a
>> virtual terminal and try to shutdown (either log in as root and issue a
>> shutdown/reboot command, or do a ctrl-alt-delete) and it gives me some
>> error about unable to go to init state *.
>>
>> The other type of crashes I'm having are much more troubling. I'll be
>> working away (running pine or tin or vi or just in a konsole) and all of
>> the sudden the computer reboots.
>>
>> In either case there is nothing useful in the logs.
>>
>> Around the time that this started, I did a couple things.
>> 1. Upgrade from VA linux 6.1 or 6.2
>> 2. Upgrade from VMWare 1.x ro 2.x
>> 3. Replace my motherboard (clamp on a ram slot was busted)
>>
>> I have no explanation for what could be causing the first type of crash,
>> and my only guess about the second is a HW problem (maybe the MB isn't
>> grounded right...).
>>
>> If anyone have any ideas on what might be causing these problems, and/or
>> how to resolve them, please share your wisdom.
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>> ***************************** **************************************
>> *Rick Goldberg * * *
>> *Graduate Student * * "I never wanted to be average, *
>> *Computer Science Dept * * because when you are average you *
>> *York University * * are just as far from the top as *
>> *Toronto, Canada * * you are from the bottom." *
>> *[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * -Stan Cottrell- *
>> *www.cs.yorku.ca/~rickg * * *
>> ***************************** **************************************
>> "If you don't invest very much, the defeat doesn't hurt,
>> But winning isn't very exciting."
------------------------------
From: "beo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.suse,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: kernel panic
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 04:58:13 GMT
Hello all,
When I reboot my SuSE 6.2 , my computer just freeze after the message below.
Does anyone know how to fix this problem? Thanks!!
*Partition check:
*request_module[block_major_8]: root fs not mounted
*VFS:cannot open root device 08:01
*Kernel Panic:VFS:Unable to mount root fs on 08:01
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Eisenberg)
Subject: Gaim(aol im)
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 04:57:06 GMT
Has anyone had success with this using Corel Linux? I have had some
problems, I downloaded a version of the rpm(red had) and Corel was
unable to convert it using the alien command. Any help would be
great. Thanks. TAke Care. Paul
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David M. Cook)
Subject: Re: Linux Command.
Date: 30 Jun 2000 05:01:00 GMT
On Thu, 29 Jun 2000 14:36:21 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Can someone tell me if there is any linux command
>which is similar to MSDOS Command - DIR /P ???
Note that you can page up in the console and xterm with shift-pageup.
Dave Cook
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: Compact Flash Mem for mp3 player (RCA Lyra)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 30 Jun 2000 00:06:25 -0500
Can anyone give me a pointer toward info about Linux support for
writing to Compact Flash memory modules, particularly as used in
RCA Lyra player. The player comes with Windows software and a
cable set that connects to the parallel port for transferring
data to the memory modules.
Since I thought I'd finally gotten rid of Windows, it bugs me to have
to resurrect the beast to load up an mp3 player.
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: Atari-Harddisk
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 05:19:19 GMT
On 29 Jun 2000 21:04:41 +0200, Konstantinos Agouros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>while cleaning up I found my old Atari-SCSI-Harddisk.
>Do I have any chance of getting to the data by plugging it to a linux(pc) ma-
>chine?
I wouldn't be surprised if it's all just FAT16...
[deletia]
Atari used FAT for their floppy format after all...
--
|||
/ | \
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: No space left on device
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 21:43:44 -0700
On or about Fri, 30 Jun 2000 01:53:18 GMT, Anthony Tekatch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
scrivened:
> Thank you for your help.
> I used fsck.ext2 on /dev/hda5 and there were many problems that it
> reported including "deleted inode xxxxxx has zero dtime".
You should generally be able to fix these with:
$ fdisk -y
...though this assumes you want to accept all of fdisk's suggested
changes. You can test first with "fdisk -ny" which says "don't change
anything but tell me everything you want to do". As has been mentioned
elsewhere, your alternatives to accepting the changes are slim.
It might be a good idea to check the "lost+found" directory of the
drive, and to make a backup of the system in the event it's starting to
go squirrly on you.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> Anthony Tekatch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > Why do I get the "no space left on device" message if I try to copy
>> > large files? I have checked the disk space (df -h) and inodes (df
>> -i):
[...]
>> Does the filesystem check out ok with fsck?
> That was it!
> Thank you!
De nada.
> --
> Anthony
--
Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.netcom.com/~kmself
Evangelist, Opensales, Inc. http://www.opensales.org
What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks!
http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org
GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: tar.gz question
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 21:55:52 -0700
On or about Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:32 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] scrivened:
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I have downloaded netscape enterprise server from the internet and
> now
> I want to put the files on tape. The files reside on a linux server.
> What I need to know is the commands for putting .gz files onto a DAT
> tape (/dev/nst0). Can I use tar cvf /dev/nst0?
$ tar cvf /dev/nst0 file-or-directory
> Also, once the files are on the tape what is the command to extraxt
> them as I want to put them on another Linux machine.
$ tar xvf /dev/nst0
...though I'd recommend running:
$ tar tvf /dev/nst0
...first to verify the contents. Probably piping through less or more.
Incidentally, compressing data to tape is generally depricated. Most
decent drives support hardware compression. tar is a damage-prone data
format, and you may find yourself with a tougher job of data recovery
in the case of a tar'ed & gz'ed file than just a tar'ed one.
cpio and afio are more robust alternatives to tar.
> Thanks
> Pete
--
Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.netcom.com/~kmself
Evangelist, Opensales, Inc. http://www.opensales.org
What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks!
http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org
GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: redhat.general,netscape.public.general
Subject: Re: and the web was silent . . . . .
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 22:00:49 -0700
Note: newsgroups and followups trimmed.
On or about Thu, 29 Jun 2000 21:17:50 -0700, Jesse Drogin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
scrivened:
> Jim Harback wrote:
>> Jesse,
>>
>> You need to follow "in detail" the directions given for your specific
>> sound card in /usr/src/linux/Documentation/sound.
>>
>> Good Luck,
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> Jesse Drogin wrote:
>>
>> > I do not get any web sounds and I need the audio to complete my total
>> > web experience that I so desparately long for.
>> >
>> > I am running RedHat Linux 6.2 with Netscape Navigator 4.7
>> > The sound card is installed, and I do indeed hear sounds from desktop
>> > events. I have to admit the sound quality is very poor and the volume
>> > is extreemly low, but I do hear some sounds. Unfortunately, I do not
>> > hear any sounds on the web. Mostly I have been listening for sounds
>> > from java applets (like yahoo Chess) with no fullfillment.
>> > I am very new to Linux (I just installed the OS 2 days ago) so any idea
>> > would be greatly appreciated.
>> >
>> > Thanks, Jesse Drogin
>> >
>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I do not have a /usr/src/linux/Documentation directory. Is there some place
> I am supposed to get one of these?
You need to install the Linux kernel package then.
You may be able to browse docs on the web at a linux kernel site, eg:
http://www.linuxhq.com/ or http://www.kernel.org/
--
Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.netcom.com/~kmself
Evangelist, Opensales, Inc. http://www.opensales.org
What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks!
http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org
GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: Gnome vs KDE
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 05:21:18 GMT
On Thu, 29 Jun 2000 18:39:13 -0700, blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> From: Matthew Matchura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[deletia]
>> Red Hat wanted to use entirely GNU based software. This includes teh
>> underlying libs.
>>
>Yeah, so Red Hat can avoid any chance of having to pay
>forlisencing fees
>now or in the future, in case Troll Tech changes its mind
>about QT.
>
>So, Red Hat can keep all the money it makes!
>
>> KDE is QT based, proprietory/commercial.
>>
>If Red Hat is sooooooooooooooooooooo anti
>proprietory/commercial. Then, why it went on with the IPO?
>
>It's hypocrite in doing that.
RMS would strongly disagree with you.
[deletia]
Your little rant is explicitly contradicted by the writtings
of RMS at GNU.org.
--
|||
/ | \
------------------------------
** FOR YOUR REFERENCE **
The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests
to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is:
Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux.misc) via:
Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites:
ftp.funet.fi pub/Linux
tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux
sunsite.unc.edu pub/Linux
End of Linux-Misc Digest
******************************
