Linux-Misc Digest #994, Volume #23               Thu, 30 Mar 00 02:13:03 EST

Contents:
  Re: Do you hate vi? (David Steuber)
  Re: XWindows ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: XWindows ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: Monitor off by blank: Can I disable it? (David Efflandt)
  Re: How to turn X window autostart off? (Michael Powe)
  command to find out distribution (Sukanta Kumar Hazra)
  help setting up home LAN (matthew neil garman)
  rpm problem ("Gary")
  Re: How to turn X window autostart off? (Jehsom)
  Re: Question about LILO uninstall (Leonard Evens)
  what does this error msg mean?? (root)
  Tekram 395 and Scanner hp6350 not recognized. (Brad Greenhill)
  Re: Software RAID-0 causes jitters (Mark(un-MASKForsyth))
  DEFRAG OR NOT? (Chris)
  Re: reinstalling windows in a Linux HD (Chris)
  HP DeskJet: a little problem (Fabio S.)
  Re: DEFRAG OR NOT? (Benoit Goudreault-Emond)
  xdvi fails to display inserted figures (Ilkka Karasalo)
  Re: perl or ms v. of wget (Matthew Haley)

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Crossposted-To: comp.editors,comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: Do you hate vi?
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 05:00:03 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Ottinger) writes:

' On Thu, 23 Mar 2000 19:59:59 GMT, David Steuber
' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
' >I have modifiers-sticky turned on, but I am still tiring of the
' >excessive finger travel to do simple things.  I am working on learning 
' >VIM to see if that will make programming any easier.
' 
' I have abbreviations and line and word completions and all, along with
' the VIM command set being parsimonious on keystrokes, and hardly type
' at all. One coworker describes my editing as "a blur". :-)

That's what I want!!!!!

Better yet, I want to just think it and have it appear on the screen.
Unfortunatly, specifications for a brain-computer interface have not
been released.

-- 
David Steuber   |   Hi!  My name is David Steuber, and I am
NRA Member      |   a hoploholic.

http://www.packetphone.org/

As long as the answer is right, who cares if the question is wrong?

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: XWindows
Date: 30 Mar 2000 04:54:25 GMT

Glennzo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

: More to add here. Now I discover that in order for Netscape to work, I need
: to run IT first, then log online with KPPP. I'm using Linux/Netscape to
: write this message. Guess I'll have to try running KMail prior to logging
: online and see what happens. 

: Does this indicate that KPPP or Netscape is blocking the other from
: executing?

No, it indicates that you're seriously messing up. It's probable that
you are changing your hostame or default routing when online, or
that you are changing your DNS or not setting it up correctly.

Don't. Please stop it. Now.

My personal betwould be simply that you have not set up DNS entirely right.
You probably  have dns pointing at a normally unroutable address, so
that netscape fails early to contact the dns when you start it. But
it's hard to guess the cause from the symptoms you report. Give the data
instead: .. your dns setup, the ppp dns and routing options, your
routing, etc. Then people can see what you are doing.


: Glennzo

Peter

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: XWindows
Date: 30 Mar 2000 04:55:43 GMT

Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Folks, remember that kmail being suid is a *guess* on my part, never
: confirmed by the original poster.  It's owned by root on my system
: (Debian 2.1) but not suid.  If it *is* suid, it's presumably an
: error, not something the package manager meant to do.

No, it has to be suid in order to open and modify pap-secrets on the fly.
All the docs tell you that. Or used to!


Peter

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: Monitor off by blank: Can I disable it?
Date: 30 Mar 2000 05:02:45 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Wed, 29 Mar 2000 12:02:25 -0500, Joseph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello, everyone.
>One of the nice things about linux that i find is that if there is no user
>activity for some period of time, the monitor is blanked out, by default.
>Most new monitors will take that as a sign to "sleep" or something , and
>power down, eventually turn off. ( My gt775 does it :)
>Most old monitors just sit there. ( No problem)

man setterm

Not only can you enable the energy saving features of your monitor, but
can control how deeply it goes to sleep (vsync, hsync or powerdown) so
you could put it into a lighter sleep if you want it to wake quicker.

Now if only I could figure out how to turn off the backlight on my laptop
(the kernel option that says it might do that does not).

You can also use it for a nifty colored console prompt like this in
.bash_profile (does not work in xterm):

export PS1="`setterm -foreground blue -bold on`$PS1`setterm -default`"

I use red for root as a warning to be careful.


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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to turn X window autostart off?
Date: 29 Mar 2000 20:41:54 -0800

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>>>>> "Richard" == Richard Cobbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

    Richard> Simon White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

    >> > Sorry, i know i should read the documentation first but could
    >> someone > tell me how to turn the autostart to X window when
    >> logging into Linux?  > I'm using RH6.1.  > > Regards > the
    >> newbie

    >> try "linuxconf"

    >> Or read the documentation :-)

    Richard> While I'm all in favor of RTFM as a solution strategy, I
    Richard> wouldn't actually know where to find this in "The
    Richard> Docs<tm>".  And I've been using Linux for 4 years now!
    Richard> Where could one find the documentation for runlevels and
    Richard> their meanings, and other init-related stuff?

    Richard> I ask not so much for me, because I've picked most of
    Richard> this stuff up (through osmosis, it would seem), but
    Richard> because I'd like to be able to point people at a specific
    Richard> resource for questions like this.

Yes, following around the mess of symlinks that is called the debian
boot process can be an exercise in self-torture.  Most of the
description of what goes on in /etc/init.d can be found in the debian
policy manual:

file://localhost/usr/doc/debian-policy/policy.html/ch3.html#s-sysvinit

Yeah, now wouldn't you think to look in a "policy manual" for a
description of the boot process?  I know I would.  ;-)

mp

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From: Sukanta Kumar Hazra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: command to find out distribution
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 13:28:59 +0800

Hi!

Is there any command that will allow me to know which distribution of
Linux is running, somewhat like uname that tells the kernel info.
The only way that I know of now is to read the /etc/issue.

Thanks for any help

Regards,
--
Sukanta Kumar Hazra
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
======================================================================
+  "testing? What's that? If it compiles, it is good,                +
+                  if it boots up it is perfect."                    +
+                                                   Linus Torvalds   +
======================================================================


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (matthew neil garman)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: help setting up home LAN
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 05:32:19 GMT

Hello:

I'm trying to setup a home LAN for cable modem sharing.  I want my Linux
box to act as the server/firewall, and have my roommates connect one Linux
and two Windows boxes to my computer.  There seems to be many small
details that need attending to, and I'm not too sure what I'm doing.  (The
cablemodem hasn't actually been installed yet; I'm trying to get our home
network running before that.)

I tried reading the home network mini howto, but it was aimed at Redhat
users, and I'm running Debian.

I've got two ethernet cards installed in my computer; Linux detects them
and installs the drivers for them correctly.  I also recompiled my kernel
with ip-masquerading and firewalling options.  I installed Debian's ipmasq
and dhcp packages.  I did some hacking on the /etc/dhcp.conf file to
assign the 192.168.* addresses to dhcp clients.

When I start my computer and type "ifconfig" with no options, only the
loopback device is shown.  So I executed the following line:
        ifconfig eth1 192.168.0.1 up
and then did a "/etc/init.d/dhcp restart" and the dhcp server appears to
start okay (i.e. no error messages).

I configured one of my roommates' Windows box to automatically receive an
IP address.  I restarted his computer, and watched the output of
"tail -f /var/log/messages" on my Linux box to see if dhcpd assigned an IP
address: dhcp made no entry in /var/log/messages (also no entry in
/var/log/syslog for that matter).  I then used my serial modem to
establish a ppp connection to my school and tried "surfing the net" from
my roommate's computer -- which didn't work.

I'm guessing there may be an error in my /etc/dhcp.conf file, but I mostly
copied the sample dhcp.conf from the home network mini howto.  My other
guess is that I've missed some other minor detail.

Does anyone have any hints on getting my LAN running?  I'd really like a
step-by-step guide to setting such a thing up (aimed at the Debian
distribution).

Thanks for any help!
Matt


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From: "Gary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: rpm problem
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 21:26:53 -0800

I can't seem to get around this problem:  I'm trying to install the
apache.rpm.  The first error I encounter is the following: failed
dependencies
(GLIBC2.0, GLIBC2.1) are needed by apachexxx.  So I get glibc2.1-2.11.rpm
and try to upgrade/install (from 2.0.7-29), my rpm gui does not see the
glibc.rpm file!  On top of that, if I manually try to rpm -Uvh glibc.rpm I
get a stupid error:
cannot write to ///usr/src/redhat/SOURCES.  There is a triple / !
What's going on here?

Kernel 2.0.36, rpm 2.5.5

Thanks for all who help
--
Gary
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jehsom)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: How to turn X window autostart off?
Date: 30 Mar 2000 05:35:19 GMT

In comp.os.linux.misc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Sorry, i know i should read the documentation first but could someone
> tell me how to turn the autostart to X window when logging into Linux?
> I'm using RH6.1.

If you're saying you want the graphical login as opposed to the
console login, then you need to edit /etc/inittab and find the
line that looks something like:
id:3:initdefault:
and change it to
id:5:initdefault:
because 5 is the runlevel for a graphical login
Then just type "init 5" if you don't want to reboot for the change
to take effect.

Moshe

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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Question about LILO uninstall
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 23:26:17 -0600

Jonathan Lau wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I would like to uninstall LILO from the Master Boot Record /dev/hda but I'm
> not sure how this can be done.
> 
> I read the HOWTO on uninstalling LILO.  It says that Linux backs up the old
> MBR to a /boot directory.  But what if I've installed Linux (and LILO to the
> MBR) more that once.  Would my original MBR still be in the /boot after all
> those reinstalls?

Yes.  Lilo is smart enough to preserve the original and not keep
copying over it.

> 
> How can I get my MBR to just boot to the first primary partition (my Windows
> NT) like it used to without showing the LILO boot prompt?

/sbin/lilo -u
should normally do it, but if it doesn't, boot from a DOS/Windows
floppy and do
fdisk/mbr

> 
> --
> Jonathan Lau
> email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-- 

Leonard Evens      [EMAIL PROTECTED]      847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208

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From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: what does this error msg mean??
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 05:52:50 GMT

I see the below regularly in my root mail.

What's causing this? I've looked into the referenced
files and can't find anything that lights up my brain


/etc/security/msec/cron-sh/security.sh: ${TMP
            grep '^-' ${WRITEABLE_DIFF}: bad substitution 

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From: Brad Greenhill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Tekram 395 and Scanner hp6350 not recognized.
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 01:00:22 -0500

Tekram 395 SCSI card
 HP scanner 6350
2.2.14 Debian (woody) w/ modules

Whe I originally got the scanner, I didn't have  SCSI cable handy, so
I used the USB backport and got it working.

I have since decided to go through the SCSI interface. I recompiled
the kernel with the USB backport, just to be sure.

When I load the SCSI module (dc395x_trm) /proc/scsi/dc395_trm/0 lists
both my SCSI devices.

<<<<<<<
Tekram DC395U/UW/F DC315/U PCI SCSI Host Adadpter, Driver Version
1.10, 1999/07/19
SCSI Host Nr 0, DC395U/UW/F DC315/U Wide Adapter Nr 0
IOPortBase 0xe800, IRQLevel 0x0a
MaxID 15, MaxLUN 0, AdapterID 7, AdapterLUN 0
TagMaxNum 32, Status 0
Nr of attached devices: 2
Un ID LUN Prty Sync Wide DsCn SndS TagQ NegoPeriod SyncSpeed SyncOffs
00 01  00  Yes  Yes  No   Yes  No   No    100 ns    10.0 M      15
01 02  00  Yes  No   Yes  Yes  No   No   (048 ns)
<<<<<<<<<<

The second line is definitely my scanner because when I disconnect, it
does not show.

However, /proc/scsi/scsi only shows my cd-r

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Attached devices: 
Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 01 Lun: 00
  Vendor: HP       Model: CD-Writer+ 9200  Rev: 1.0c
  Type:   CD-ROM                           ANSI SCSI revision: 04
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Shouldn't the scanner show there as well?

SANE does not find the scanner. I have all the scsi modules loaded.

scsi_mod
sr_mod
dc395x_trm
sg
. 

Can anyone help?


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark(un-MASK)Forsyth)
Subject: Re: Software RAID-0 causes jitters
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 19:55:28 +1000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Unfortunately this is probably a case of coupling software RAID with
cheap IDE disk drives. Either hardware RAID or SCSI drives will
go a long way towards eliminating the problem.


On 28 Mar 2000 20:05:01 GMT, Jehsom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have a problem that no one else seems to be having, and I can't
>figure out what's going on.
>I have a 40gb and a 27gb maxtor hard drive, on /dev/hdc and /dev
>/hdd, respectively. I'm running an ABIT BH6 with a celeron 300a.
>I had these two hard drives set up in linear append mode, and
>everything seemed to work fine. One of my friends told me, though,
>that I could use raid 0, and test the speed on various different
>chunk sizes until I found the one that performed best, according
>to hdparm -t /dev/md0. Well, they all performed the same (3.57 MB
>/s), and now I have the drives raid 0'd (this is striping, btw),
>with a chunk size of 4. 
>The problem now is almost unbearable. Whenever anything accesses
>the drive, the whole system jitters. The mouse movement becomes
>extremely jittery, and everything stops responding until the HD
>access has finished.
>What's the story? I want to use RAID-0, but not if it's going to
>act like this!!
>
>Thanks,
>Moshe
>
>-- 
>jehsom(@)resnet.gatech.edu - ICQ 1900670
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From: Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: DEFRAG OR NOT?
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 06:30:45 GMT

Am using the Corel Linux but have not seen any defrag or disk care 
utilites...are there any?

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From: Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: reinstalling windows in a Linux HD
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 06:30:52 GMT

I just did that very thing with my Corel Linux.
Get you windows startup disk, perform an fdisk on all NON DOS partitions.
Now, go back into fdisk and make sure your disk is completely empty,(if 
not, you may have to perform a low level format, for that you will need 
software for your particular hard drive to do this), if all is clear, then 
setup a logical DOS partition, then, restart your computer.
With the disk still in, perform a format C: from your A: prompt, this will 
remove all remaining traces and when done all you need do is pop your 
Windows disk in and follow the instructions. Remember how this is done and 
you can go back to Linux whenever you want once you get more comfortable 
with it and, nothing worse than feeling boxed in.  Good Luck  

Dances With Crows wrote:
> 
> 
> On 29 Mar 2000 20:44:10 -0500, Joe Schottman 
> <<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
> >Dances With Crows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> This will zero out the MBR, bypassing the brain-damaged DOS FDISK 
entirely
> >> and making Winblows think the drive has absolutely nothing on it.  
> >
> >You can also use a DOS boot disk with fdisk on it to format the MBR.
> 
> 1. FDISK.EXE's tiny little brain chokes on Linux partitions, and Win9x 
has
> problems when there isn't a primary FAT partition.  Since FDISK can't 
deal
> with Linux partitions, recreating a primary FAT partition is... somewhat
> difficult in certain circumstances.  Linux fdisk can blow away the entire
> partition table, but you then should recreate it with FDISK.EXE... the
> "dd" approach saves a little time.
> 
> 2. FDISK /MBR overwrites the first 446 bytes of the MBR, doing nothing
> at all to the partition table which is contained in the next 64 bytes.
> 
> I believe the original poster's problem had to do with #1, myself.  ICBW.
> 
> -- 
> Matt G / Dances With Crows              \###| Programmers are playwrights
> There is no Darkness in Eternity         \##| Computers are lousy actors
> But only Light too dim for us to see      \#| Lusers are vicious drama 
critics
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fabio S.)
Subject: HP DeskJet: a little problem
Date: 30 Mar 2000 06:36:03 GMT

Hi, 
I have a little problem with my HP DJ (600): when I use the driver
deskjet or djet500, as long as I use it in resolution 300x300 everything
is ok, but when I try 600x600 the output is ok but it is raised in such a
way that the printed part is just a couple of points far away from the top
border of the paper.
Does anybody know how to fix this, please?

Thanks

Fabio

PS: I have gs 5.50 and I use deskjet/djet500 instead of cdj550 because the
last one fills the paper with too much ink, even using "-dDepletion=2"
(but it doesn't raise the output:-(

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Benoit Goudreault-Emond)
Subject: Re: DEFRAG OR NOT?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 06:40:59 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Chris wrote:
> Am using the Corel Linux but have not seen any defrag or disk care 
> utilites...are there any?

Disk care: whenever you boot, the system automatically does a check on the
disk (sort of like scandisk).  You can do one manually, but that's the kind
of stuff you do booting from a different disk (like the CDROM or a diskette)
and doing the check from there.  Under Linux, you really can't check the
filesystem while it's in use.  You can in Windows, but it's really a bad
idea (and notice it starts over whenever you write to the disk... that's why
it's a bad idea!)

Defrag: not really needed.  ext2fs (the Linux filesystem) is meant to keep
fragmentation low.  There was a defrag for it a while back, but it's not
been maintained anymore, and I can hardly recommend it, as it hasn't tracked
the filesystem changes and is likely to corrupt your files if you use it. :{)

So, don't worry: the system will take care of this for you, you won't need
to run those utilities, and they're pretty useless under Linux anyways.  The
reason they exist under Windows is due to the idiotic filesystem they use
(FAT, which should have been extinct since the mid-80's IMHO)

-- 
Benoit Goudreault-Emond
CoFounder, KMS Group ; Student, B. Comp. Eng, Concordia University
``Being too close to a fireball can worry a man --- to death.''
        -- Zeb Carter in "The Number of the Beast" by Robert A. Heinlein

Note:   the "From:" address is not correct to protect myself against spam.
        My actual e-mail address is: ``bge AT crosswinds DOT net''

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From: Ilkka Karasalo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: xdvi fails to display inserted figures
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 08:31:29 +0200


I have used the TeX typesetting system coming with the
RH Linux distributions for some time, and have the
following problem:

In newer RH releases (ca 5.2 and on) the  xdvi  previewer
does not display postscript files inserted in the tex (latex)
document with 'epsffile' . Instead of the figure, a blank
space is displayed.

The xdvi of earlier RH releases did not have this problem,
and my solution has so far been to simply replace all
the  'tetex'  packages in RH 5.2 and later with that in
ca. RH5.1.

There must be a better solution.

Ilkka Karasalo

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthew Haley)
Subject: Re: perl or ms v. of wget
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 07:07:52 GMT

On Thu, 30 Mar 2000 03:56:15 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Does anybody know of a perl script, or something that will run on ms
>that will download a website and convert the links to relative like the
>way the wget pgm works?

wget is available as a win32 binary from:

http://www.interlog.com/~tcharron/wgetwin.html



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