Linux-Misc Digest #17, Volume #20                 Sun, 2 May 99 06:13:13 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Assembler in GNU's C++ compiler (Donn Miller)
  Re: unmount cdrom problem (Mars)
  Re: download installation redhat-6.0 (Steve Smoogen)
  Re: How to get Panasonic CD-ROM 2 work? (**Nick Brown)
  Re: Gnome Help ! (Thomas Zimmerman)
  Re: Assembler in GNU's C++ compiler (brian moore)
  Re: Gnome Help ! (Thomas Zimmerman)
  Re: Burning playable music CD's (Brian L Rachford)
  Re: Kernel Traffic #16 Is Available (Timothy Murphy)
  Re: Computer virus threat to Linux? (Mircea)
  Re: Redhat 6.0? (Michael McConnell)
  Alpha Server + WinNT + DOS progs??? ("cpm")
  Re: bootdisk - Oops: 0000 (Tom Fawcett)
  Re: Windows NT vs. Linux testing by mindcraft (Pascal Gienger)
  Re: Timezone problems on Slackware (Donn Miller)
  Re: VMWARE -- why isn't it the rage topic of discussion? (Donn Miller)
  Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522) (Ed Avis)
  Re: glibc2 problems... (Geir)
  lilo problem (Zdravko Balorda)
  Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522) (PILCH Hartmut)
  Re: GNU reeks of Communism (PILCH Hartmut)
  Re: lilo problem ("Theodric")
  Problems getting imm driver to compile/work (lazgirl)
  Re: Kernel 2.2.X rpm (Shimpei Yamashita)

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From: Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.dev.c-programming,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Assembler in GNU's C++ compiler
Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 06:08:25 +0000

On 1 May 1999, Victor Wagner wrote:

> However I doubt that assembler on Linux worth learning for you.
> Direct hardware access is prohibited by OS protection mechanism anyway,
> all system services are available as C functions and GNU C optimizer
> does good job on computational algorithmes, so there are few chances
> that you could write faster code than GCC would do for you.

But it's still possible to do systems-level programming with i/o ports
anyway:  inb, outb, etc.  Don't calls to inb, outb get translated to
assembly anyway? :-\

Donn


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From: Mars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: unmount cdrom problem
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 14:57:19 +0800

The error message:

 umount: /mnt/cdrom mount disagrees with the fstab

The problem is solved by renaming the device from /dev/cdrom to /dev/hdd
in fstab.

**Nick Brown wrote:
> 
> What's the error message ?  If it's that the device is in use, make sure
> you close all processes which might have something on the CD as their
> current directoty.
> 
> Mars wrote:
> > I'm running red hat linux. The user option is added to the line mounting
> > the cdrom in /etc/fstab. Now any user can mount the cdrom but not
> > unmount it(only root can). Do anything i do wrong? Pls advise. Thanks.
> 
> --
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> Nick Brown, Strasbourg, France (Nick(dot)Brown(at)coe(dot)int)
> 
> Protect yourself against Word 95/97 viruses, free - check out
>  http://www.geocities.com/NapaValley/Vineyard/1446/atlas-t.html
> ---------------------------------------------------------------



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Smoogen)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: download installation redhat-6.0
Date: 2 May 1999 02:20:00 GMT

Hi in trying to figure this out furhter, could you send to the newsgroup
what other errors might be occuring on ALT-F3/ALT-F4 (THe reason to send
to newsgroup is that if we can solve it everyone knows about it, and I
may not be the RH employee who has the final solution)



On Fri, 30 Apr 1999 23:33:39 -0500, lalonde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I've been trying to download 6.0 to upgrade fron 5.0, I have bootnet.img
>made from rawrite. I get to the part of modem,  I install Real-Tek-8129
>driver it autoprobes modem. I get to DHCP and enter it,then to ftp or
>http site ( tried both) enter name and directory. It starts cable modem
>starts flickering. Then I get ( unable to retreive the second stage
>ramdisk:File not found on server  base/stage2.img) tried many
>sites.First time to try downloading I usally buy cd, but wanted to try
>this this time. What I am I doing wrong?
>
>
>Many Thanks,
>
>Rodney LaLonde
>


-- 
 
SJS

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From: **Nick Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: How to get Panasonic CD-ROM 2 work?
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 18:06:03 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

It's not an IDE CD-ROM, so this won't work.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Under RH5.1 the /dev/cdrom is the device I reference
> but that is also a sym link to /dev/hdc... the actual
> device name.

-- 
===============================================================
Nick Brown, Strasbourg, France (Nick(dot)Brown(at)coe(dot)int)

Protect yourself against Word 95/97 viruses, free - check out
 http://www.geocities.com/NapaValley/Vineyard/1446/atlas-t.html
===============================================================

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From: Thomas Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat.rpm,nl.comp.os.linux,nl.comp.os.linux.installat
Subject: Re: Gnome Help !
Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 23:39:59 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

hau wrote:
> 
> it can be either .xinitrc, .xsession, .xclient (the dot in front of the file
> is important)
> if not sure just at to all of that, depend on your envirorment,
> if you use graphical login  it maybe .xsession or .xclient

I don't use xdm or gdm (the gnome version of xdm) and had to edit the
.Xclients. It may be of use to try xinit and then run gnome-session, as
any warnings get kicked back to a xterm for you to see as gnome fires
up.

Qubes

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Crossposted-To: linux.dev.c-programming,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Assembler in GNU's C++ compiler
Date: 2 May 1999 06:41:22 GMT

On Sun, 2 May 1999 06:08:25 +0000, 
 Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 1 May 1999, Victor Wagner wrote:
> 
> > However I doubt that assembler on Linux worth learning for you.
> > Direct hardware access is prohibited by OS protection mechanism anyway,
> > all system services are available as C functions and GNU C optimizer
> > does good job on computational algorithmes, so there are few chances
> > that you could write faster code than GCC would do for you.
> 
> But it's still possible to do systems-level programming with i/o ports
> anyway:  inb, outb, etc.  Don't calls to inb, outb get translated to
> assembly anyway? :-\

You're assuming inb and outb are functions.

They're not part of ANSI C, and are not part of libc.

-- 
Brian Moore                       | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
      Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker     |  a cockroach, except that the cockroach
      Usenet Vandal               |  is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
      Netscum, Bane of Elves.                 Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster

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From: Thomas Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat.rpm,nl.comp.os.linux,nl.comp.os.linux.installat
Subject: Re: Gnome Help !
Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 23:42:20 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

hau wrote:
> 
> it can be either .xinitrc, .xsession, .xclient (the dot in front of the file
> is important)
> if not sure just at to all of that, depend on your envirorment,
> if you use graphical login  it maybe .xsession or .xclient

I don't use xdm or gdm (the gnome version of xdm) and had to edit the
.Xclients. It may be of use to try xinit and then run gnome-session, as
any warnings get kicked back to a xterm for you to see as gnome fires
up.

Qubes

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian L Rachford)
Subject: Re: Burning playable music CD's
Date: 2 May 1999 04:05:55 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <fPCW2.284$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, William McBrine wrote:
>In comp.os.linux.misc Brian L Rachford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>: I bought a CD-RW drive last week and had no problems getting
>: it up and running (BTC 2x/2x/6x IDE drive, RedHat 5.2, 2.0.36,
>: 486DX2/66).  I've successfully written a data CD-R and have
>
>Can I say, I'm just glad to hear that you're able to do this. What I'd
>heard before had led me to believe that CD burning would be impractical
>without either going to SCSI, or using a much faster processor (expensive
>either way). Now, I think I'll give it a try. :-)

Yeah, it interesting how little of a processor one needs to
write CDs under Linux.  Like for most drives, the one I bought
specifically says you need Windows and a Pentium 100.  I want
to emphasize that I'm writing at 2x-speed, and I'm still not
maxing out the processor or IDE bus.  I would guess that it
would still work at 2x on a 486/40 and one could probably
write 1x on any 486 and maybe even a 386 (assuming there aren't
any hardware compatibility issues).  Of course, I'm careful
not to have any other system load during my CD burning, which
is an important consideration on slow machines.  In practical
terms this just means that you should stay away from the
keyboard and shut off any fancy screensavers while you burn.

Brian Rachford
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy Murphy)
Subject: Re: Kernel Traffic #16 Is Available
Date: 1 May 1999 15:34:43 +0100

available where ?

-- 
Timothy Murphy  
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
tel: +353-1-2842366
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland

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From: Mircea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Computer virus threat to Linux?
Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 03:16:30 -0400

Mind you, there's at least a couple dozen biology books that will tell
you
wrong - the term "virii" exists well and strong, although its meaning
was
distorted by the original poster. "Virus" is a collective term, it
designates a population, or even a whole species. Its plural is
"viruses",
referring to multiple species - exactly the relationship between
"people"
and "peoples". "Virion" designates a single individual in the "virus"
population, i.e. a single infectious particle, and its plural is
"virii":
group of members of the same species.

MST


Tom Christiansen wrote:
> 
>  [courtesy cc of this posting sent to cited author via email]
> 
> In comp.os.linux.misc, "Matthew B. Kennedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> :Are there any threats to Linux systems from computer virii?
> 
> There is no word "virii", since there is no rule that takes "-us" to
> "-ii".  There is a rule that takes "-us" to "-uses", and I suggest you
> use it by default, including for such words as virus and hippopotamus.
> Classically, there are also rules that take "-us" to "-i" as in radius or
> alumnus, to "-era" as in genus and opus, to "-ora" as in corpus, and to
> "-Us" with a macron over the long "u" as in the ancient forms of status,
> hiatus, apparatus, and prospectus.  But there is simply no rule that takes
> "-us" to "-ii".

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From: Michael McConnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Redhat 6.0?
Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 09:24:26 +0100

On 30 Apr 1999, C Lamb wrote:

> Michael McConnell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> 
> : You sure about that? :) Read my sig ;)
> 
> I'm reading the .sig... The shipping of a 4CD jewel case all the way
> from Christmas Island must be expensive ;)

I'm in the UK :) I have a Christmas Island domain name because for only 10
quid + VAT per year it was a lot cheaper than a .uk domain name... :)

-- Michael "Soruk" McConnell                       [Red Hat 6.0 Available!]
Eridani Star System  --  The Most Up-to-Date Red Hat Linux CDROMs Available
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.amush.cx/linux/   Fax: +44-8701-600807


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From: "cpm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.questions
Subject: Alpha Server + WinNT + DOS progs???
Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 10:35:03 +0200


Hi Everybody !
My question;
On my job I have a ALPHA server running UNIX,
is it possible to change that to a WinNT server running DOS programs ??




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From: Tom Fawcett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: bootdisk - Oops: 0000
Date: 28 Apr 1999 18:55:14 -0400

jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I am tring to make a boot disk which loads in a floppy ramdisk.  I made
> the boot floppy and the ramdisk, but as soo as the kernel is done and I
> put in the next floppy and push enter, it startes to read and then BOOM!
> 
> Umable to handle NULL pointer refference at address 00000008
> current->pss.cr3 = 00101000, %cr3 = 00101000
> (or maybe tss.cr3 can't read my writing)
> *pde = 00000000
> Oops: 0000
>[rest clipped]

For what it's worth, this looks like a random low-level kernel glitch.
It's not a typical bootdisk problem, at least not one I recognize.  I'd
guess your first (boot) disk has a media error on it and the kernel image
is corrupted in the ramdisk driver.  Try remaking the bootdisk using a
good, newly formatted floppy.

Or possibly your memory is bad.

-Tom

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pascal Gienger)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Windows NT vs. Linux testing by mindcraft
Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 10:09:04 +0200

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Stephen Montgomery-Smith \
 wrote:

>cleaner than the Z80, and the 68000 was the same beautiful elegence of
>its predecessor.

And still is. 68000, 68020, 68030 and 68040 are still of widespread use in
cellular phones[*], routers (e.g. Bintec Brick), ISDN Equipment, Modems,
and so forth... They are cheap, handy and with >68020 they come with a
nice MMU, so no problem to implement some kind of VM system.
There are small SMD and energy-saving CMOS-Versions on the market. The
new dishwasher I installed lately for a friend of mine has a 68k chip
controlling the machine.

[*] Not only by these made by Motorola ;-)

Pascal
-- 
Unix,   Pascal Gienger, Moosstr. 7 /\ 7 .rtssooM ,regneiG lacsaP    xinU
Networx 78467 Konstanz, [EMAIL PROTECTED] /  \ ed.tenz@p ,znatsnoK 76487 xrowteN
& WWW       http://pascal.znet.de/    \ed.tenz.lacsap\\:ptth       WWW &
        http://echo.znet.de:8888/ echo \8888:ed.tenz.ohce\\:ptth

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From: Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: Timezone problems on Slackware
Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 04:15:28 +0000

Donn Miller wrote:
 
> 2.)  xclock shows the wrong time, or my timezones are all screwed
> up.  Again, my timezones were fine before upgrading to libc6.
> Basically, since I'm running Windows 98 and FreeBSD also, I
> had/have my clock set to localtime, and not UTC.  I used tzselect
> to set my timezone to Eastern time, and now `date' gives this:
> 
> Sat May  1 10:23:31 EDT 1999
> 
> Right now, xclock and xdaliclock both say 2:23.
> 
> This is in my startup files:
> 
> /etc/rc.d/rc.S:  /sbin/clock -s

I found the problem:  I just needed to

touch /etc/localtime

before doing clock -a.  Apparently, you need a file called
/etc/localtime (zero length) if your CMOS clock is local time
instead of UTC.

--
  Donn
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: VMWARE -- why isn't it the rage topic of discussion?
Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 04:20:56 +0000

Richard Steiner wrote:
> 
> Here in comp.os.linux.misc, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jerry Gardner)
> spake unto us, saying:
> 
> >On Sun, 04 Apr 1999 19:12:25 -0500, Richard Steiner wrote:

> >>   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
> >>    OS/2 + Linux (Slackware+RedHat+SuSE) + FreeBSD + Solaris + BeOS +
> >>    WinNT4 + Win95 + PC/GEOS + MacOS + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven!
> >     ^^^^^^   ^^^^^
> >
> >Don't these two statements conflict? (I think I'd put WinNT4 and Win95
> >in the PC Hobbyist Hell category myself...)
> 
> Just 'cuz I have the OSes installed here and play with them from time
> to time for comparison purposes doesn't mean I depend on them. :-)

Windows 98 == neat toy OS
Windows NT == better toy OS
Linux      == much better toy OS

--
  Donn
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Ed Avis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522)
Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 10:20:55 +0100

Peter Seebach wrote:

>That said, a friend of mine is running *NT*, for crying out loud, on a P166.
>It works fine.

I'm running NT on an IBM PS/2 Model 80-111.  The Model 80 (AFAIK) was
introduced in 1987, although this is a later model.  It has 12MB of
160ns RAM, two 115MB ESDI hard disks, and an upgraded CPU (Evergreen
486 running at 20MHz).

Okay, so it is NT 3.51 :-P

-- 
Ed Avis
Advertise here! [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Geir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: glibc2 problems...
Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 11:21:22 +0200



Juergen Heinzl wrote:

> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Geir wrote:
> >I am trying to get glibc2 installed as my C-library. I have downloaded
> >the source-files and
> >want to get them compiled. However, I have run into a problem when
> >trying to run "configure". I get a message telling me that I need the
> >linux sources for linux version 2.0.10 or newer. The message also tells
> >me that the version is checked in the "version.h" file under
> ><linux/include>. I am, however, running linux version 2.2.3, and I have
> >all the source files installed for this version. When I check the file
> >"/usr/include/linux/version.h" it correctly says that the version is
> >2.2.3. Still I get the error-message from "configure".
>
> Make sure /usr/include/linux is a symbolic link, not a directory *and*
> points to the rigth directory.

"/usr/include/linux" is set up as a symbolic link to
"/usr/src/linux/include/linux",
and "/usr/src/linux" is a symbolic link to "/usr/src/linux-2.2.3" i.e. the
sources for
the 2.2.3 version, so this can not be the problem...?


> >I used to run version 2.0.0 and I still have got these source-files
> >installed, but /usr/src/linux is linked to the new sources, so this
> >should not be a problem, or...?
>
> ... see above ...
>
> Cheers,
> Juergen
>
> --
> \ Real name     : J�rgen Heinzl                 \       no flames      /
>  \ EMail Private : [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ send money instead /



Geir


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Zdravko Balorda)
Subject: lilo problem
Date: 2 May 1999 09:09:07 GMT

Hi,
this may be an old problem, but lilo has always surprised me:
I have:
partition 1 Win95, 7GB /dev/hda1
partition 2 linux 2GB  /dev/hda2
partition 1 is active

lilo writes to MBR on /dev/hda

but nothing happens. Windows happily boots. I can boot
linux from floppy only telling it to mount root=/dev/hda2

I cannot figure out why lilo doesn't ask where to boot from?

Any hints? Thank you, regards, Zdravko.


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Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (PILCH Hartmut)
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522)
Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 02:16:17 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Seebach) writes:

>>Some of us, the creators of good free software, do what needs to be done ---
>>without making money. Evidently the FSF doesn't make a lot of money.

>Perhaps - but nothing would prevent them from trying a bit harder to sell
>consulting services.

>The capitalist belief system is that you can do this and things that need
>to get done will still get done.  It's not really possible to prove or
>disprove; real-world situations are too complicated.  :)

I have the impression that by "capitalism" you mainly mean things like
"free market" or even "freedom for anyone to take initiatives".  These
of course existed long before the industrial revolution that lead to the
typical capitalist situation of a few people owning production means and
everything being organised around the stock exchange.

If you use capitalism in the more specific, narrow meaning, you will find
that it is currently still driving the mainstream of the software market,
but not in a good direction.  It has been ailing for decades, and now there
is some hope of a change of paradigm.  From capitalism to something
non-capitalistic. Thanks to the "freedom for anyone to take initiatives",
which is allowed for in the capitalist system.

>>Redhat has acquired enough fame to occupy a very special and small niche in
>>the market system, where some money can be made.

>Probably, yes.  But I'm not sure; I don't think they've found a "small niche".
>I think calling the service industry part of computing a "small niche" is
>like someone saying, many years ago, that this "fast food" thing might occupy
>a "small niche" in the restaurant business.

Has Redhat become a stock holding company yet?  Are any of the OpenSource
based service companies serious players in the capitalist world, with a capital
of, let's say, 5% that of Oracle? 1% ?

>Economic systems tend to end up focusing trade on scarce resources; it turns
>out that software isn't scarce, but programming and support are, so we end
>up spending money on programming and support, not on software.

I am desperately looking for an open source machine translation program and
some open source vector fonts (TTF, Postscript).  I find them extremely
scarce and at the same time extremely valuable to society.

But neither capitalism nor "GNU communism" has a means of providing them.

>If you try to "do what needs to be done" without regard for who will pay to
>have it done, indeed, you will probably become poor.  Sometimes, the way to
>do what needs to be done is find a market niche and fill it, and use this as a
>basis from which to do what needs to be done.

Yes, I'm trying.  This is however the "narrow way uphill", as opposed to the
"broad way downhill".  You are likely to make much more money more quickly
if you focus your efforts on "getting things done that needn't be done",
such as providing all kinds of de-enlightenment services to businesses that
need to turn citiziens into consuming junkies.

If you nevertheless choose the "narrow way uphill", I think you must be
driven by some boy-scout, religious or ethical motivation, not by the
market.

>If, instead of starting RedHat, the same people had started devoting their
>free time, or even their full working time, to just trying to do "what needs
>to be done", it's quite likely that a lot less would have gotten done.

>It may be necessary to look ahead a little to get better results.

Yes, positive thinking is important.  Complaining about how narrow the
path uphill is won't help.

-phm

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (PILCH Hartmut)
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 01:39:04 GMT

Don Bashford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes (in an excellent long
article that makes some often muddled points clear):

>But there are
>other communists who reject the involvement of the State in
>production, and even want to abolish the state altogether.  They
>believe the the workers are capable of spontaneously organizing
>themselves and taking charge of production.  These are the "anarchist
>communists".  As you might guess by now, GNU is anarchist communist.

Do you really mean that the GNU people have an agenda of trying to
"abolish the state altogether"?

Is there any evidence for this?

Actually the FSF is also an organisation that tries to centrally coordinate
some tasks, and RMS is very keen on having people think in terms of a
whole system, which is called GNU, even GNU/Linux, rather than just each
work for himself and produce a lot of disparate pieces that will somehow
grow together automatically.

So, I think, RMS is not quite an anarchist communist, even in the software
sense.

--
Hartmut Pilch http://www.ffii.org/~phm/
Funding association for a Free Informational Infrastructure 
providing free Munich beer for free software projects

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From: "Theodric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: lilo problem
Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 05:50:28 -0400

Sure... Lilo cannot address a partition that is in any part above the 1023rd
cylinder of a hard drive.
Since that's the 8Gb mark... that would put it about right in the middle of
your linux partition.


Zdravko Balorda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7gh4nj$shb$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
> this may be an old problem, but lilo has always surprised me:
> I have:
> partition 1 Win95, 7GB /dev/hda1
> partition 2 linux 2GB  /dev/hda2
> partition 1 is active
>
> lilo writes to MBR on /dev/hda
>
> but nothing happens. Windows happily boots. I can boot
> linux from floppy only telling it to mount root=/dev/hda2
>
> I cannot figure out why lilo doesn't ask where to boot from?
>
> Any hints? Thank you, regards, Zdravko.
>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (lazgirl)
Crossposted-To: linux.debian.user,alt.iomega.zip.jazz
Subject: Problems getting imm driver to compile/work
Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 08:55:57 GMT

i'm trying to compile the zip plus driver (imm driver) under a Debian
2.1 (kernel 2.0.36), linux box -- this was a base install with gcc,
make, kernel source, binutils, bin86, libaries, and all the other
dependencies needed to create binaries.

i downloaded the imm files, but i'm having problems 'make'ing them.
the files won't compile, i get a linker error which says it can't find
cc.  i have gcc, but don't know where to go to change the cc value to
gcc. anyone have any pointers?


thanks


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From: Shimpei Yamashita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Kernel 2.2.X rpm
Date: 2 May 1999 00:15:38 +0100

Todd Ostermeier  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Precompiled kernels in general are a Bad Idea (tm).  The only real use
>they have are for installation or rescue disks.  The point behind having
>the kernel source available (besides the ability to change it) is so that
>you can customize the kernel to fit your machine, thereby removing bloat
>that is seen in certain other os's.  The only rpm'ed kernel that would be
>worth using would be a source RPM, but how hard is it to untar a tarball?
>Your kernel should fit your machine.

Well, precompiled kernels *are* useful if you use Linux on a slow
machine or small hard disk and no faster machine on which to do the
compile--it takes about 60MB of free disk space to compile 2.2.7 on my
configuration, which may not be available on older machines with
~100MB hard disks, and doing a kernel recompile is pretty unpleasant
on slow machines.

-- 
Shimpei Yamashita               <http://www.submm.caltech.edu/%7Eshimpei/>

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