Linux-Misc Digest #38, Volume #20 Mon, 3 May 99 09:13:13 EDT
Contents:
Trouble connecting to ISP using PPP (Aaron and Lisa Ginn)
Software to run a mailbox(BBS) for linux??? (Rainer Krienke)
Re: Can linux damage my hardware? (Lew Pitcher)
Re: ftp question (monitoring progress) (Walter Strong)
Re: The GNU Fragrance of Sharing vs. the Stench of Greed (was: GNU reeks of
Communism (really)^ (mlw)
Re: Gnome Help ! - thanks brian and matthias (-bill-)
Kernel Tunables (Christopher Paluch)
Re: Print Driver for Lexmark 2030 (Walter Strong)
Re: Textpad/ultraedit class editor (Bruce Schultz)
Re: want fvwm back, now it is kde when I type startx (Bruce Schultz)
Re: minicom question (Przem Kowalczyk)
Re: mounting a drive (Jeremy Lunn)
glibc 2.1 and 2.0.7 same time? (Ken Williams)
Re: The Best Linux distribution? (was Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux) (Lee Blevins)
Re: Trouble connecting to ISP using PPP (Clifford Kite)
Re: Mac-emulation on Linux? (Andrew J. Brehm)
[solved] Re: how do i detect if x is running? (digs)
Re: The GNU Fragrance of Sharing vs. the Stench of Greed (was: GNU reeks of
Communism (really) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Windows NT vs. Linux testing by mindcraft ("MeatHead")
rpm error (Mars)
HOw to find the latest and best version of Ghostscript? (Mark)
Re: The Best Linux distribution? (was Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux) (Tom Christiansen)
Re: Alpha Server + WinNT + DOS progs??? (Thomas L|fgren)
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From: Aaron and Lisa Ginn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Trouble connecting to ISP using PPP
Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 00:03:02 +0000
I'm having establishing a connection with my ISP using PPP. I can make
the connection, but my modem keeps hanging up on me, and I'm not sure
why. The problem seems to have something to do with PAP
authentication. Here is the output from pppd. I was hoping someone can
shed some light on this for me. Note: I've changed my userid and
password in the following logfile to USERID and PASSWD. Those are not
the actual entries.
TIA,
Aaron Ginn
=======================================================================================
May 2 23:38:24 localhost pppd[1485]: pppd 2.3.7 started by root, uid 0
May 2 23:38:25 localhost chat[1486]: send (ATD6028890110^M)
May 2 23:38:25 localhost chat[1486]: expect (CONNECT)
May 2 23:38:48 localhost chat[1486]: ATD6028890110^M^M
May 2 23:38:48 localhost chat[1486]: CONNECT
May 2 23:38:48 localhost chat[1486]: -- got it
May 2 23:38:48 localhost chat[1486]: send (^M)
May 2 23:38:48 localhost chat[1486]: expect (ogin:)
May 2 23:38:48 localhost chat[1486]: 57600^M
May 2 23:38:49 localhost chat[1486]: MindSpring Phoenix, AZ Dialup
Service^M^M
May 2 23:38:49 localhost chat[1486]: ^M^M
May 2 23:38:49 localhost chat[1486]: arc-2a.phx2 login:
May 2 23:38:49 localhost chat[1486]: -- got it
May 2 23:38:49 localhost chat[1486]: send (USERID^M)
May 2 23:38:49 localhost chat[1486]: expect (assword:)
May 2 23:38:49 localhost chat[1486]: USERID^M
May 2 23:38:49 localhost chat[1486]: Password:
May 2 23:38:49 localhost chat[1486]: -- got it
May 2 23:38:49 localhost chat[1486]: send (PASSWD^M)
May 2 23:38:50 localhost pppd[1485]: Serial connection established.
May 2 23:38:50 localhost pppd[1485]: Using interface ppp0
May 2 23:38:50 localhost pppd[1485]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS1
May 2 23:38:51 localhost pppd[1485]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <asyncmap
0x0> <magic 0xc6ff7c28> <pcomp> <accomp>]
May 2 23:38:51 localhost pppd[1485]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru
1514> <asyncmap 0x0> <auth pap> <magic 0x56867921> <pcomp> <accomp> < 11
04 05 ea> < 13 03 00>]
May 2 23:38:51 localhost pppd[1485]: sent [LCP ConfRej id=0x1 < 11 04
05 ea> < 13 03 00>]
May 2 23:38:51 localhost pppd[1485]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x2 <mru
1514> <asyncmap 0x0> <auth pap> <magic 0x56867921> <pcomp> <accomp>]
May 2 23:38:51 localhost pppd[1485]: sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x2 <mru
1514> <asyncmap 0x0> <auth pap> <magic 0x56867921> <pcomp> <accomp>]
May 2 23:38:54 localhost pppd[1485]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <asyncmap
0x0> <magic 0xc6ff7c28> <pcomp> <accomp>]
May 2 23:38:54 localhost pppd[1485]: rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 <asyncmap
0x0> <magic 0xc6ff7c28> <pcomp> <accomp>]
May 2 23:38:54 localhost pppd[1485]: sent [PAP AuthReq id=0x1
user="USERID" password="PASSWD"]
May 2 23:38:54 localhost pppd[1485]: rcvd [PAP AuthNak id=0x0 49 6e 76
61 6c 69 64 20 4c 6f 67 69 6e 3a 20 55 6e 6b 6e 6f 77 6e 20 75 73 65 72
6e 61 6d 65 2e 0d 0a]
May 2 23:38:57 localhost pppd[1485]: sent [PAP AuthReq id=0x2
user="USERID" password="PASSWD"]
May 2 23:38:57 localhost pppd[1485]: rcvd [PAP AuthNak id=0x0 49 6e 76
61 6c 69 64 20 4c 6f 67 69 6e 3a 20 55 6e 6b 6e 6f 77 6e 20 75 73 65 72
6e 61 6d 65 2e 0d 0a]
May 2 23:39:00 localhost pppd[1485]: sent [PAP AuthReq id=0x3
user="USERID" password="PASSWD"]
May 2 23:39:00 localhost pppd[1485]: rcvd [PAP AuthNak id=0x0 49 6e 76
61 6c 69 64 20 4c 6f 67 69 6e 3a 20 55 6e 6b 6e 6f 77 6e 20 75 73 65 72
6e 61 6d 65 2e 0d 0a]
May 2 23:39:03 localhost pppd[1485]: sent [PAP AuthReq id=0x4
user="USERID" password="PASSWD"]
May 2 23:39:03 localhost pppd[1485]: rcvd [PAP AuthNak id=0x0 49 6e 76
61 6c 69 64 20 4c 6f 67 69 6e 3a 20 55 6e 6b 6e 6f 77 6e 20 75 73 65 72
6e 61 6d 65 2e 0d 0a]
May 2 23:39:06 localhost pppd[1485]: sent [PAP AuthReq id=0x5
user="USERID" password="PASSWD"]
May 2 23:39:06 localhost pppd[1485]: rcvd [PAP AuthNak id=0x0 49 6e 76
61 6c 69 64 20 4c 6f 67 69 6e 3a 20 55 6e 6b 6e 6f 77 6e 20 75 73 65 72
6e 61 6d 65 2e 0d 0a]
May 2 23:39:09 localhost pppd[1485]: sent [PAP AuthReq id=0x6
user="USERID" password="PASSWD"]
May 2 23:39:09 localhost pppd[1485]: rcvd [PAP AuthNak id=0x0 49 6e 76
61 6c 69 64 20 4c 6f 67 69 6e 3a 20 55 6e 6b 6e 6f 77 6e 20 75 73 65 72
6e 61 6d 65 2e 0d 0a]
May 2 23:39:09 localhost pppd[1485]: rcvd [LCP] 05 03 00 00
May 2 23:39:11 localhost pppd[1485]: Hangup (SIGHUP)
May 2 23:39:11 localhost pppd[1485]: Modem hangup
May 2 23:39:11 localhost pppd[1485]: Connection terminated.
May 2 23:39:11 localhost pppd[1485]: Connect time 0.4 minutes.
May 2 23:39:12 localhost pppd[1485]: Exit.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rainer Krienke)
Subject: Software to run a mailbox(BBS) for linux???
Date: 3 May 1999 13:28:51 +0200
Hello,
the subject says it all. Can anyone recommend any (free) software to run
a mailbox on a linux system?
Another question: does anyone know another program than seyon to connect
to a mailbox?
Thank you very much,
Rainer
--
=====================================================================
Rainer Krienke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Universitaet Koblenz, http://www.uni-koblenz.de/~krienke
Rechenzentrum, Voice: +49 261 287 - 1312
Rheinau 1, 56075 Koblenz, Germany Fax: +49 261 287 - 1355
=====================================================================
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From: Lew Pitcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can linux damage my hardware?
Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 20:41:40 -0400
Shaun Schembri wrote:
>
> Here is my story....
[tale of woe snipped]
> Now here is my question. Was it a coincidence that both cards went
> bonkers while using Linux? I believe that I set the drivers correctly
> because I wouldn't have worked for the past 6 months. Finally my PC is
> almost 3 years old and never gave me this kind of problems while using
> Windows.
<facetious>
Actually, a Microsoft programmer surreptitiously introduced a patch to
the
2.0 series kernels that would randomly destroy hardware by introducing
conflicting analog signals through programmed RF induction.
Unfortunately,
these patches weren't caught by Linux (being both sourcecode obfuscated,
and supplied through a South African software house *not* associated
with
Microsoft), and the buggy code has been propogated to the 2.2 kernels.
The goal of this code was to physically destroy the hardware of any
Linux
user, providing physical punishment for not using Microsoft operating
systems,
and forcing the user to purchase new hardware with Microsoft OS
preinstalled.
</facetious>
> If there is any logical answer for this dilemma please tell me as I
> really like Linux but I don't want to buy new cards every few months.
>
> Thanks for the patience.
> Shaun
--
Lew Pitcher
Master Codewright and JOAT-in-training
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Walter Strong)
Subject: Re: ftp question (monitoring progress)
Date: 3 May 1999 11:25:47 GMT
Doug Sanderson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Is there some way to monitor the progress of an ftp "put" command,
: similar to
: the microsoft dialog window that tells you how many bytes remain and how
: much more time until the transfer is complete?
: --
: Doug Sanderson
: email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: homepage: http://www.halcyon.com/dcs
Wxftp will give you all of this plus a gui, if that's what you're looking
for.
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From: mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
talk.politics.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.activism,alt.society.liberalism
Subject: Re: The GNU Fragrance of Sharing vs. the Stench of Greed (was: GNU reeks of
Communism (really)^
Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 11:38:33 +0000
Bill Bonde wrote:
>
> mlw wrote:
> >
> > Chris Costello wrote:
> > >
> > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mark S. Bilk wrote:
> > > > >For each person, it depends on timescale or personal
> > > > >interest. Some systems elevate a "class" of individuals to take
> > > > >advantage of others ("practical communism" and GPL),
> > > >
> > > > Amazing! Exactly what "class of individuals" is enabled
> > > > to "take advantage of others" by means of the GPL? All of
> > > > humanity minus Bill Gates?
> > >
> > > The GPL is a crock. It forces openness. That's not freedom.
> > > You like walking outside sometimes, I would bet. Would you like
> > > being *FORCED* to walk outside all the time? That's the key
> > > problem with the GPL and many recognize it.
> > >
> >
> > One is always FREE not to use GPL, aren't they? I think GPL is quite
> > liberating. You are free to use GPL and free not too. Freedom of choice.
> >
> But this is not really freedom, is it? You aren't free to use the code
> as you see fit, are you?
You are totally missing the point. It is not your code to begin with. It
still belongs to the creator of the code. What right do you have to
anything with it, besides that which is transferred to you from the
author?
As a capitalist, you must accept that there is no such thing as a free
lunch. All freedom costs something. Personal freedom takes wars and
civil disobedience. Software freedom requires that people share. If you
do not want to pay the price for freedom, then you do get freedom. It is
as simple as that.
Why should you benefit from the labor of others (at no cost) when the
only one who benefits from your labor is you?
--
Mohawk Software
Windows 95, Windows NT, UNIX, Linux. Applications, drivers, support.
Take the Mohawk Software Computer Survey at: www.mohawksoft.com
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From: -bill- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Gnome Help ! - thanks brian and matthias
Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 07:35:47 -0400
--
-bill-
Technical Service Systems - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Christopher Paluch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Kernel Tunables
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:02:08 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am running RedHat 5.2 and I have a couple of questions:
1) I just upgraded to the 2.5.5 kernel. Now when I try to run the
Kernel Daemon Configuration from under gnome, I get the error message
/boot/module-info.2.2.5 not found. How does one get that file created??
2) I've installed Informix on my linux box. Informix's release notes
make recommendations about system tunables for semaphores and shared
memory. How does one check the current values and modify them under
Linux?
Thanks,
Christopher Paluch
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Walter Strong)
Subject: Re: Print Driver for Lexmark 2030
Date: 3 May 1999 11:31:59 GMT
Robear ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: I use Redhat 5.2. Is there a print driver for the Lexmark 2030 that will
: work with this OS?
: Thanks,
: Robert
It seems that very few Lexmarks will work under linux. Think winmodems of
the printer world and you're thinking Lexmark.
see:
http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/pht/printer_list.cgi?predef=CJ
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Schultz)
Subject: Re: Textpad/ultraedit class editor
Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 21:13:26 -04-59
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 02 May 1999 12:10:21 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I�m looking for a medium weight X11 text editor, in the category that textpad
>and ultraedit have for Win.
>
>I find XEmacs bloated and cumbersome; and nedit, edith, fte, kwrite and
>gnotepad too weak.
>
>Visual Slick Edit 4 is the closest I�ve found so far, but it is way too
>expensive.
>
>Does anybody know an nice one (gtk, motif, qt), that handles multiple large
>files, has syntax highlighting (perl, sh, maybe html and C++) and does well on
>search/replace operations? Project management, scripting and debugger are not
>necessary.
>
>Or has somebody ever seen a crack for Visual Slick Edit?
Try jed/xjed.
--
Bruce Schultz
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Schultz)
Subject: Re: want fvwm back, now it is kde when I type startx
Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 22:07:32 -04-59
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 1 May 1999 07:51:27 -0700, Gerald Willmann
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Fri, 30 Apr 1999, Bruce Schultz wrote:
>
>> Try deleting your .Xclients in your home directory.
>
>DO NOT delete files you might want to use again (why TRY btw, you would
>most certainly succeed) - move it to another filename if you want to see
>what happens w/o it.
> Gerald
With the installation of KDE 1.1 that comes with RedHat 5.2, you create
the .Xclients file by executing "usekde." To stop using KDE, delete the
Xclients file. To recreate the .Xclients file, you execute "usekde."
The .Xclients file created by usekde contains only the commands needed
to create the ~/.kde and ~/Desktop directories and execute the
"startkde" command.
It's covered by the KDE documentation.
--
Bruce Schultz
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Przem Kowalczyk)
Subject: Re: minicom question
Date: 3 May 1999 10:50:36 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Lee Parker in comp.os.linux.misc wrote:
>I'm new to Linux. When I run Minicom, it's very slow in responding to
>keyboard input. It connects to my ISP ok, but takes 20-30 seconds to echo
>anything to my screen. As a result, username times out every time and I
>can't get on. Any Ideas?
Perhaps your modem and mice use the same interrupt. Check it with
cat /proc/interrupts. You should see at least _2_ serial ports.
Przem
--
I'm what you found I'm upside down
you're in the air you're in the air
and I am breathing
R.E.M
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From: Jeremy Lunn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,cz.comp.linux,linux.dev.newbie
Subject: Re: mounting a drive
Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 18:48:46 +1000
Gary Yap wrote:
>
> Is there any way to permantly mount a hard drive partition and cd-rom?
> I seem to have to have to mount them every time I need to access them.
> Pls reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Thanx
IMHO you should add you CD-ROM drive to /etc/fstab like this:
/dev/hdb /cdrom iso9660 noauto,user 0 0
That way it doesn't mount it at bootime, but you can mount it just by
typing mount /cdrom and normal users can mount it (remove the ,user if
you don't want that). Of course there must be a directory called
/cdrom.
And as everyone else has said, read the man pages for fstab and mount.
regards,
Jeremy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ken Williams)
Subject: glibc 2.1 and 2.0.7 same time?
Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 06:06:47 GMT
How could I setup my system so Star Office 5 actually works? I'm running the
latest stampede which uses glibc 2.1, and Star Office won't install cause its
wants 2.0.7. What should I do in detail to make SO work while still maintain
glibc 2.1 as my primary lib? Anyone? Is it doable?
Thanks.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lee Blevins)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: The Best Linux distribution? (was Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux)
Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 07:23:12 -0500
Tom Christiansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And not the kind of surprise that comes from opening a carefully wrapped
> package to find it full of tasty chocolates, either. Rather, it seems
> more that kind of surprise that comes from having stepped through an
> open elevator door only to realize belatedly that no elevator awaits you.
>
> --tom
I couldn't agree more.
Even though I'm not a unix guru, I decided to take three flavors of
Linux and one of Freebsd and try to learn.
The Linux versions were much more difficult to wade through. More
complex install routines, vague and even incorrect documentation seemed
to be what I experienced and then it failed to support my hardware.
Freebsd on the other hand installed first time and was operational.
For the record my hardware was:
Acer Motherboard with single 233 pent II.
3com 905 100 bt ethernet card
Adaptec 2940uw
Seagate Cheetah 4 gig
Teac 16x scsi cd rom
As a beginner, I found the process of making floppies to install a bit
too complex. Freebsd booted on the cd. This was a couple years ago I see
RH now has a bootable cd.
Maybe this stuff is not for beginners and only professional unix users
need apply but the errors and oversights in Linux documentation seemed
too easy to avoid.
Here's an example. I purchased the Redhat 5.2 recently from Compusa. I
was thinking this should be a consumer level product now since it's
being marketed in a consumer computer store.
To my dismay the kernel source wasn't installed during the installation.
I tried several times using each of the available install routines.
I discovered this when I tried to build a kernel and the book that came
with it says, "this assumes the kernel source has been installed."
I looked the book over pretty close for where the kernel source might be
and how to install it. I checked the install routines again for where
there might be an option to install the kernel source.
I was really shocked to see that a simple routine or a paragraph in the
manual couldn't, wasn't, included to aid in this quest. It's as if the
world of Linux has this info so "everywhere" it wasn't needed.
I started poking around on the cd's and found a couple of tarballs that
looked like a candidate and they even untarred and produced the source.
One had a ".35" in it's name but when untarred produced a ".36" source.
The rpm didn't produce what I'd have expected. I'd expect an rpm for
kernel source to just create a src directory somewhere.
Yes, I could eventually figure this all out. I could go onto the
internet and ask stupid questions in newsgroups and be treated like a
moron on the irc. Freebsd installed and it's documentation seem to be
correct. I am productive with it and is giving me a return on my time
investmet that seems proportional.
I will continue struggling with Linux just because it's everywhere and I
can't ignore it but for the moment the box is booted as Freebsd and I'll
just have to find some time to reboot it as Linux and deal with that os.
To the Redhat people I say, do a better job. From what I can see
building a custom kernel is what any unix admin needs to be able to do.
Your install and documentation for your compusa release needs to be
improved considerably. Just adding a sentence like:
"The kernel souce is on CD number 2 of the distribution set in
/foo/bar/source."
That would have been great. In the case of an rpm, it should say that if
you install the rpm, you don't get the source but it is required that
you take another step becuase what's actually installed is tarballs of a
variety of source options.
None of those explanations take up a lot of space and could easily have
been included if the documentors were more sensitive to accuracy and
precision.
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From: kite@NoSpam.%inetport.com (Clifford Kite)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Trouble connecting to ISP using PPP
Date: 3 May 1999 06:34:37 -0500
Aaron and Lisa Ginn ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: May 2 23:38:54 localhost pppd[1485]: sent [PAP AuthReq id=0x1
: user="USERID" password="PASSWD"]
: May 2 23:38:54 localhost pppd[1485]: rcvd [PAP AuthNak id=0x0 49 6e 76
: 61 6c 69 64 20 4c 6f 67 69 6e 3a 20 55 6e 6b 6e 6f 77 6e 20 75 73 65 72
: 6e 61 6d 65 2e 0d 0a]
I'm not sure why the hex dump occurs but it says:
Invalid login: Unknown username.
which pretty much says the username you send isn't what the ISP needs.
Everything else looks normal. Check with the ISP about what they expect
for the username. Even if you think it's correct - sometimes an ISP wants
something prepended or appended to it.
--
Clifford Kite <kite@inet%port.com> Not a guru. (tm)
/* Editing with vi is a lot better than using a huge swiss army knife. */
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Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.powerpc
Subject: Re: Mac-emulation on Linux?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew J. Brehm)
Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 12:56:04 +0200
FM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 1. Just buy a X86 machine and install Linux on it (if not
> preinstalled). Get some Mac-emulation software if necessary.
Whatever you do, you won't be able to emulate a PowerPC and thus can
only run old MacOS software. I presume the software you were refering to
(college stuff) is rather new.
> 2. Buy a Macintosh and dual boot with Linux/MacOS
>
> Well I think this is a nice compromise but I'm not sure how
> well Linux runs on Macintosh.
Quite good.
> I'm fairly sure that it will
> be an improvement over Windows/MacOS, but I'm not even sure
> if most Linux softwares are available for this setup (or if
> it's generally source-level compatible).
It is source level compatible. And most Linux software is available as
source codes. However, some Linux software is only available as Intel
(Star Office).
> I think my doubts stem mostly from my lack of knowledge
> about the Macintosh systems, which I've used before but
> never administered. Are these the only options I have
> considering that I want to use Linux and remain compatible
> with Mac at the same time? Any additional information
> would be apprecited. Thanks in advance.
Your only option would be to use a Mac.
--
LinuxPPC User
Fan of Woody Allen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (digs)
Subject: [solved] Re: how do i detect if x is running?
Date: 3 May 1999 11:05:24 GMT
Reply-To: nts-online.net
Hi-
here is what /is/ working:thankyou all
example 1. ------------------------
if [ "$DISPLAY" != "" ]; then
exec nedit $@
else
exec vim $@
fi
example 2. ------------------------
#!/bin/sh
if test x$DISPLAY = x; then
pico $@
else
nedit $@
fi
example 3. ------------------------
#note:this example /appears to be the most fail proof/
#as -each- xterm is assigned a unqiue variable
if [ $WINDOWID ] ;then
nedit
else
pico
fi
example 4. ------------------------
ps u |grep xinit
--
later on,
digs
:wq
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: talk.politics.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.activism
Subject: Re: The GNU Fragrance of Sharing vs. the Stench of Greed (was: GNU reeks of
Communism (really)
Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 12:22:57 GMT
As one who generally bashes linux idiots and zealots, I must say, those who
have posted here in the ng against it really come off sounding stupid in this
one.
The GPL is not inherenly bad for any great social reason. The real reason it
doesn't work is because it encorages inefficient software engineering models
which results in a lot of very bad software being not just written, but
propegated.
"Why rewrite a good, modern (application class) when we can just hack up some
bad mid-80s C code to have the little extra bit of functionality that we were
looking for in that domain?"
"Why switch to a modern, flexible, safe, object-based system for writing our
code when it's just so much more convenient to start with this buggy and half-
functional C program?"
Virtually every linux application, especially anything with a GUI, is sub-par
because of the above two patterns.
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From: "MeatHead" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Windows NT vs. Linux testing by mindcraft
Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 08:20:53 -0500
brian moore wrote in message ...
>On 30 Apr 1999 19:27:35 -0400,
> Alexander Viro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Well, duh! Some of the later boxen were able to run SunOS ;-) Not
>> to mention the fact that there were Unices on 8086. Never seen a
>> 80808/Z80 one, though...
>
>Heh... I have a version of Unix ("Micronix") for the Z80.
>
>Was pretty slick: ran on Morrow S100 machines that had a nifty CPU board
>that handled the memory management and even protection. Yep, "HLT" was
>a privileged instruction and could only be executed by the kernel: it
>did this with some horrible hardware hackery that would see the
>instruction fetch (part of the *M1 cycle if I remember S100 right) and
>substitute a nop for any HLT's fetched from RAM. It added a 'HLT HLT'
>instruction (two consecutive HLTs) to be a system trap, as I recall.
>
>It was 1983 or so: ran it in 64k of RAM on a 5M ST-506 and included
>Whitesmith's C.
>
>I believe I still have a copy of it around here somewhere, though I no
>longer have working hardware to run it.
>
>The scary thing: I thought it was screaming fast then. :)
>
The scarier thing is that it was probably more stable and faster than my NT
machine is now. I mean what kind of an OS needs a reinstall after an OPC
driver crashes while setting it up? The answer is NT.
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From: Mars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: rpm error
Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 20:21:02 +0800
I'm running redhat 4.2. I want to install gtk and qt rpm packages,
however, a error message appear:
Data type 9 not supported
I don't know what to do now. And some packages are for redhat 5.1, for
example, qt-1.42-3rh51.i386.rpm. Is there any problem installing those
packages?
Thanks
Mars
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Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 22:13:42 -0500
From: Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: HOw to find the latest and best version of Ghostscript?
I have been having much trouble finding and especially downloading the
version of Ghostscript. that comes with Slackware 3.5, Ghostview 4.03.
What version should I use in its place?
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From: Tom Christiansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: The Best Linux distribution? (was Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Christiansen)
Date: 3 May 1999 06:32:51 -0700
[courtesy cc of this posting sent to cited author via email]
In comp.os.linux.misc, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lee Blevins) writes:
:The Linux versions were much more difficult to wade through. More
:complex install routines, vague and even incorrect documentation seemed
:to be what I experienced and then it failed to support my hardware.
It's a Brave Gnu World. I believe that you're supposed to be shut-up
and enjoy it, or if you don't like that a manpage is missing or crappy,
to write it yourself. Uh uh.
:Freebsd on the other hand installed first time and was operational.
Nice, eh? And it even comes with proper documentation. What a concept.
To be honest, I found SuSE to install very easily -- gotta love that
German engineering :-). It worked on one particular system (a laptop)
where both RedHat and BSD failed.
--tom
--
"Patriotism is a pernicious, psychopathic form of idiocy."
- George Bernard Shaw
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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: Alpha Server + WinNT + DOS progs???
From: Thomas L|fgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 03 May 1999 14:35:11 +0200
>>>>> "cpm" == cpm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
cpm> Hi Everybody ! My question; On my job I have a ALPHA server
cpm> running UNIX, is it possible to change that to a WinNT server
cpm> running DOS programs ??
I think it has all the components needed to do so, yes. It also has
all the components needed to change it into a digital clock that beeps
every hour. I would find the latter more useful.
Tom
--
Wherever I lay my .emacs, that's my ${HOME}
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