Linux-Misc Digest #38, Volume #21                Thu, 15 Jul 99 03:13:13 EDT

Contents:
  Re: mounting problem (Brian)
  Re: Debian packaging system (Steven Yap)
  Re: CIA assassinations (Richard Kulisz)
  Re: Pronouncing "Linux" - your vote! (Brian)
  Re: How get X (gnome) on 2 screens? (Brian)
  staroffice (Kevin White)
  Bad Modem or bad connections? (Ramin Sina)
  Re: How get X (gnome) on 2 screens? (Brian)
  Re: open systems?!? Re: Why does Apple not cooperate with Be? (Jerome Jahnke)
  Please help urgent win98 network printer set up with Rh6 (bono)
  Re: Tell me I'm wrong... (Brian)
  Re: CIA assassinations (Richard Kulisz)
  Re: "system too big".. for WHAT! ("muzh")
  Re: Cant get Creative Ensoniq AudioPCI to work ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  18 and Over Please 50165 (Anonymous)
  Re: CIA assassinations (Richard Kulisz)
  Re: How to Change Typmatic Rate? (Andreas Hinz)
  Printing to an Epson 740 ("James Wall")
  Re: 2 x 3c905 @ same I/O ??? (Ratz)
  Re: Synchronizing cmos clock with timeserver? (Dirk Heinrichs)

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From: Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mounting problem
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 00:04:58 -0400

What type of partition is sda1?  ext2? FAT?  You may have to load a
filesystem module (EX: 'modprobe fat').  Or, is this partition
formatted?

-Brian

Patrick wrote:
> 
> when i type "mount /dev/sda1 /mnt", it showed me:
> 
> mount: the kernel does not recognize /dev/sda1 as a block device
> (maybe 'insmod driver'?)
> 
> why?
> 
> --

-- 
Brian Rectanus
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Subject: Re: Debian packaging system
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Steven Yap <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 04:17:20 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow) writes:

> I want both.  As you explain later, its convenient to have gcc, TeX
> or whatever just install.  These things don't change often over time
> (or perhaps I don't want to change them often).
> 
> Other things change frequently, due to development, bugs, features,
> etc.  and it would be really good to have the latest version ASAP.
> Unfortunately, packages lag.  Some packages lag horribly.  This
> means a manual compile and install, which is right up my alley being
> a slackware type.  Just sometimes I don't feel like hunting down
> some long forgotten archive for a program.
> 

That's what /usr/local is for.  Ever notice how .deb packages that you
install from ftp.debian.org install on to /usr but not /usr/local ?
So, for things like TeX, gcc, fileutils et cetera, install via .deb
packages.  For those applications that YOU have identified for living
on the bleeding edge, grab their tarballs, compile and install on
/usr/local.

Basically for each .deb package that you are not satisfied with, and
are willing to manually compile and install, remove the .deb packages
(if installed) and put the resulting apps in /usr/local.

Steven

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Kulisz)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: CIA assassinations
Date: 15 Jul 1999 04:34:18 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
MK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>But since the real power rests in the
>>economic sphere, 
>
>That's true, power is in customer's pocket. Good.

Where do they breed you idiots? Customers have as much power in the
economic sphere as voters have in the political sphere, which is to
say None. Moreover, customers and *consumers* are two different things.
Customers who are not consumers includes resellers, which makes up
the overwhelming portion of the economy. So in a very limited sense
you're correct (although still a duplicitous asshole) since corporaitons
have all the power.

>No, it only means you try to sell idiotic theory of concentration of
>capital. It's already dead together with Marx, you just pretend
>it is alive.

Concentration of capital is undestood to be the natural course of events
by every serious economist, it's also widely understood to be the current
state of affairs; even the mass media accepts it as obvious.

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From: Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Pronouncing "Linux" - your vote!
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 23:53:04 -0400

This is my rule.  According to Linus' audio, he pronounces the 'i' the
same as he does in his first name.  So one could state Linux is just
(Linus + Unix = Linu + x = Linux) so one should pronounce the 'i' like
you would pronounce the 'i' in the name Linus (in your own native
language)!

Example:
In American English it would be Linux with the 'i' as in 'site' and 'u'
as in 'drum' ( IPA = /'laIn @ks/ ).  I have _never_ heard an American
pronounce the name Linus with an 'i' as in 'tip' ( IPA = /I/ )!!  But
maybe I live a sheltered life.    Perhaps, 'i' as in '<ea>sy' ( IPA =
/i/ ) is alright in American English as well if you have a European
accent or prefer to sound more stately ;)

Pretty simple eh?  Works for me.  It allows a lot of different
interpretations, but all to be correct in there own language.  I just
don't understand where people get Linux as 'Linix' where both the 'i's
are as in 'tip'  ( IPA = /`lIn Iks/ ).  If I were to say any
pronounciation was wrong, that would be the one.

IPA Pronunciation Guide:
http://language.perl.com/misc/IPA/IPA.2

-Brian

-- 
Brian Rectanus
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How get X (gnome) on 2 screens?
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 00:18:57 -0400

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

... snip ...
 
> I imagine the XServers file indicates where X is to run and
> it has a line refering to ":0".  It appears X starts on the first
> "unused" virtual screen.  I turned off "mingetty" on tty2, tty3,
> and tty4 in "inittab" and reset XServers to start on ":0.3" but
> it started on virtual screen 2.  I also tried multiple entries
> in XServers (for ":0.2" and ":0.3") but also just got the one
> server on the first unused screen.

Close, but no cigar...

:0 is the display name  :0.0 is display 0 monitor 0  :0.0 is display 0
monitor 1.  This has nothing to do with a virtual terminal, just X
displays.  

In /etc/inittab comment out the text vt's that you don't want.  In
/etc/X11/Xservers (or /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers) put something like:

# Local X on VTs 7 & 8
:0 local /usr/bin/X11/X :0 vt7 -bpp 32
:1 local /usr/bin/X11/X :1 vt8 -bpp 32

# Remote xdm login on VT9
:2 local /usr/bin/X11/X :2 vt9 -bpp 32 -query host.some.domain

Note that this is from a Debian system, so it may be a bit different
than yours.  If you don't specify vtN then it will use the next
available which is not always the same order as in Xservers (one may
take a bit longer to start sometimes).

-Brian

-- 
Brian Rectanus
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Kevin White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: staroffice
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 21:03:16 -0600

Hi,

I have installed staroffice 5.1 on a redhat 6.0 system.  when logged in
as root I can run staroffice just fine.  But when I log in as a user, I
type soffice and the disk grinds for a minute, but nothing ever comes
up, and the soffice process exits without any messages (just bash saying
that soffice exited).

What can I do?

Thanks,
--
Kevin White, Programmer
MyComputer.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Ramin Sina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Bad Modem or bad connections?
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 22:51:20 -0400

Hi all, this may be a stupid question, but how can I tell if a modem is
gone bad and needs replacement?
I have an internal  v90 US Robatics modem which I had been successfully
using to connect my SuSE 5.2 machine to my ISP. Now when I use ezppp to
dial in, I get connected ( I hear the usuall modem noise and I get the
written  indication that connection was made) but

1)  it takes netscape a very long time to launch now
2) pppd dies after a few of minutes.

My ISP provides no support for linux users, but claims that nothing they
have changed in their modems that could possibly slow down the
connection. Does this necessarily mean  that my modem needs replacement
, or is it possible that my configuration files are corrupted? What is
the best way to test the modem?

Thanks,
Ramin




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From: Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How get X (gnome) on 2 screens?
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 00:31:52 -0400

Brian wrote:
> :0 is the display name  :0.0 is display 0 monitor 0  :0.0 is display 0
> monitor 1.  This has nothing to do with a virtual terminal, just X
> displays.

oops... :0.1 is display 0 monitor 1  hehe

-- 
Brian Rectanus
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jerome Jahnke)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.be.misc,comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: open systems?!? Re: Why does Apple not cooperate with Be?
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 23:23:33 -0500

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lars
Duening) wrote:

> On Wed, 14 Jul 1999 20:00:23 -0500, Jerome Jahnke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > In article <pR7j3.18017$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > arcane*SPAM*[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Herborth) wrote:
> > 
> > > BeOS is seen as a competitor (it's got a non-sucky GUI, it's got media 
> > > capabilities, its foundation blows MacOS completely out of the water), 
> > > therefore it's a threat.
> > 
> > You can't sue [...] the entire case would be thrown out.
> 
> These are two different things.

You might think so, but one must vigorously protect such things. It has
happened in a number of venues. If you let person x use your technology
without licensing it, you can't say person y must license it. Apple has
not extended special permission to use their technology to the LinuxPPC or
(Net/Open)BSD communities, so even if they could sue Be if Be decided to
do what these companies were doing they have a built in defense.

Jer,

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From: bono <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Please help urgent win98 network printer set up with Rh6
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 04:35:31 GMT

Help!

I really need to connect to the network printer on win98 peer on the
network.  It was a simple HPInkjet 4/5/6 series and it was working as a
local printer before.  I tried to connect to another similar model on
the same network that under another linux server and that one works;
however the one on the win98 can print much more in a much faster
speed...not to mention the other one is about a quarter mile away from
me  (at least feels like it)  I can't swap the printers because none of
them belong to me.  If anyone out there is successful in setting up
network printer on a win98 machine please give me more detail and hints.

Please please please help!

Bono


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From: Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux
Subject: Re: Tell me I'm wrong...
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 00:36:02 -0400

Um, not unless you fake the hardware (MAC) address on the ethernet card.
-- 
Brian Rectanus
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Matthias Benkmann wrote:
> 
> >
> >All that has been written about boot disks is logical in a way, I just
> >had never thouht of the dangers of phisical access to a server.  Now I
> >know...
> 
> Another thought about physical access. It's not only the computer(s)
> you have to protect. It's the network wiring, too. AFAIK, someone can
> just plug out a computer and insert a laptop instead, set up to use
> the same IP address, UIDs etc.Depending on how restrictive you are
> within the LAN, a root login on that laptop could allow free access to
> all the other computers in the LAN. MSB

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Kulisz)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: CIA assassinations
Date: 15 Jul 1999 04:37:02 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Generalissimo  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Ahem.... Well, that's not true either--Stalin took over _before_ it all
>happened, and it is due to his wise leadership that most of that had

This from someone who admires one of the most brutal dictators since
Adolf Hitler. Fuck off you evil-minded son of a whore.

>happened at all. But he was certainly "standing on the shoulders of the
>giants" so to say, because his predecessors didn't shy away from
>mass-murder either, although they didn't perpertate it in such a degree
>as he later did.

Citations? References?

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From: "muzh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: "system too big".. for WHAT!
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 22:18:58 +1200

You may have 64Mb, but unfortunately, Intel x86 processors boot in "real"
mode -- that is, they only see the first 1Mb.  A lot of this must be taken
for hardware drivers, etc, resulting in the old 640Kb limit.  Ineffeciencies
can easily reduce that.
A bzImage kernel loads in stages, throwing the processor into "Protected"
mode (Where it can see ALL the memory) before the whole kernel is loaded.
It works fine.  Just use "make bzImage" instead of "make zImage" at the
appropriate part of the compilation process.
Hope this helps --


<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7mh3q6$n52$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> First question: Is there a newsgroup devoted to kernel compilation
> problems? I dont see anything in the list.
>
> I just 'up'graded to redhat 6 & tried to recompile my kernel.
> Upon 'make boot' I wind up with
>
> System is 590 kB
> System is too big. Try using bzImage or modules.
> make[1]: *** [zImage] Error 1
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.2.5/arch/i386/boot'
> make: *** [boot] Error 2
>
> Too big for what?? I've got 64MB of RAM & gobs of hdd space.
> Most options are in modules & I've weeded out what I dont need.
> I've recompiled my kernel before with no trouble. This looks
> like an arbitrary limit. If it's too big for a floppy, I dont
> care. I use LILO. make bzImage will work but the redhat manual
> recommends make boot. I dont know the difference.
> What's the workaround for this?
> I tried the echo commands listed in the kernel howto. They
> didn't work if they were supposed to fix this.
>
> Frustrated,
> Art.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Cant get Creative Ensoniq AudioPCI to work
Date: 11 Jul 1999 12:53:23 GMT

Advanced Linux Sound Architecture
   http://www.alsa-project.org/

Thomas Kochak wrote:
> 
> What is ALSA ?
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > I use ALSA with Ensoniq PCIaudio, RH6.0 2.2.15-22 kernel (custom compiled).
> > I am completely satisfied.
> >
> > Muuga wrote:
> > >
> > >  Alot of ppl swear by this card(thats why I bought it), but it doesnt
> > > configure too well under linux.
> > >
> > > Under Win98 its  irq=11 I/O=220 DMA=1
> > > of course it works great under windoze :/
> > >
> > > this is what it looks like under /proc/pci
> > >
> > > #PCI devices found:  Bus  0, device  10, function  0:
> > > #    Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq Unknown device (rev 6).
> > > #      Vendor id=1274.  Device id=1371.      Slow devsel.  IRQ 11.  Master
> > > #Capable.  Latency=64.  Min Gnt=12.Max Lat=128.      I/O at 0xe800.
> > >
> > > and    /etc/conf.modules
> > >
> > > #alias sound sb
> > > #options -k sb io=0x220 irq=11 dma=1
> > >
> > > I running RH 5.1 with a recompliled 2.0.37 kernel
> > > on a FIC 503+ k6 300
> > > I must have recompiled 2 dozen times(just for the sound section of make
> > > menuconfig , since I got the card.
> > >
> > > i get this on boot up :
> > > #Sound initialization started
> > > #Sound initialization complete
> > > not once did I get something in between :(
> > >
> > > maybe im missing something in the sound configuration part of compilation?
> > >
> > > CONFIG_SOUND=y
> > > CONFIG_SB=y
> > > CONFIG_AUDIO=y
> > > CONFIG_YM3812=y
> > > SBC_BASE=220
> > > SBC_IRQ=11
> > > SBC_DMA=1
> > > SB_DMA2=-1
> > > SB_MPU_BASE=388
> > > SB_MPU_IRQ=-1
> > > DSP_BUFFSIZE=65536
> > >
> > > if you have this card and got it working under linux , please tell me how
> > > you have you box configured.
> > >  Thanks

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Kulisz)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: CIA assassinations
Date: 15 Jul 1999 05:32:58 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
MK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 13 Jul 1999 12:10:06 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Kulisz)
>wrote:
>>The plan was that 1) Russia would bypass liberal democracy and go straight
>>to socialism, 2) then the workers in all the other European nations would
>>see their example and revolt, 
>
>They did not want to, which was why communists had to invade
>(unsuccessfully) Poland in 1925. And that was before Stalin.

The *governments* did not want their people to revolt against them,
but that goes without saying. The German government even went so far
as to assassinate Rosa Luxemberg and brutally crushed the workers'
revolt she led (1918-19). "They did not want to" my ass!

Btw, Lenin died in 1924. Who do you think had power then?

   1922            Cheka replaced by OGPU
   April           Stalin becomes secretary general
                   Treaty of Rapallo with Germany
                   11th Party Congress
                   Lenin's first stroke
                   The USSR declared
   December 23     Lenin begins his  Testament
   1923            12th Party Congress
   January 4       Lenin finishes his 'Testament'
                   Lenin's second stroke
   1924            Lenin's death (January 21)
                   13th Party Congress
                   USSR constitution ratified
                   Petrograd renamed 'Leningrad'
                   USSR recognized by Great Britain, France, Italy
   1925            14th Party Congress
                   Trotsky removed as war commissar
   1926            Trotsky, Zinoviev, Kamenev ousted from Politburo
   1927            15th Party Congress:  Trotsky, Zinoviev and followers
                      expelled from Party; Stalin takes control
 
>>What happened instead is that Russia's neighbours invaded its ass and in,
>>successfully, defending itself Russia was completely bled dry. 
>
>Last time I checked, WWI began in 1914 and October Putsch happened
>in 1917.

What's your point? I wasn't referring to WWI, and even if I was
then the start of the war isn't nearly as relevant as the *end*
of it.

   1918 January    Constituent Assembly is dissolved
   February        Separation of church and state
                   Russia switches to Gregorian calander
   March 3         Treaty of Brest-Litovsk
                   7th Party Congress
                   British land at Murmansk
   April           Japanese land at Vladivostok
   June            Nationalization of industry
   July            Intervention begins
   July 17         Murder of Tsar Nicholas II and his family
   August          American troops land in Vladivostok
   September       American troops land at Archangelsk
   November        End of World War I
                   Soviets repudiate Treaty of Brest-Litovsk
                   French troops land at Odessa
   1918 December   British troops land at Batum
   1919            Founding of the Comintern
   March           Kolchak launches drive against Bolsheviks
                   8th Party Congress
   April           French withdraw from Odessa
   June            Height of Denikin advance
   June 28         Treaty of Versailles
   October         Allies withdraw from Murmansk and Archangel
   1920 January    Kolchak shot by Bolsheviks
                   Allied blockade lifted
   March           9th Party Congress
   April           Wrangel replaces Denikin
   November        Wrangel evacuates Crimea
                   Civil War ends in Russia
   1921            NEW ECONOMIC POLICY (NEP) BEGINS
                   Kronstadt Uprising
                   10th Party Congress: orders for Purge
                   Treaty of Riga with Poland

>>We're talking
>>about a total collapse of Russian society; massive starvation and plagues.
>>And *that's* when Stalin took power; people can't bring themselves to care
>>for democracy/socialism when they can't feed their children.
>
>Nope. Stalin took over when everything was already largely settled

Settled down from what? Settled down from the aftermath of the wars
you bonehead.

>down. It's just every attempt of socialism/communism eventually
>evolves into Soviet system. This pertains as much Jamestown
>where they introduced totalist rule "who does not work, does

Do you even realize that you've just described capitalism as
totalitarian?

>not eat" as much as Russia or any other country. Communism
>is perpetuum mobile and you're 'alternative physicist' who
>ignores laws of conservation of energy. It never works.

It's never been *tried* on a large scale you shithead. You
clearly don't know the first thing about communism if you
have to repeat the old american propaganda.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Hinz)
Subject: Re: How to Change Typmatic Rate?
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 06:32:58 GMT

On Wed, 14 Jul 1999 20:47:34 -0700, Scott Galloway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
For the console, look at 'kbdrate' 
For X look at 'xset'.

-- 
Med venlig hilsen / Best regards

Andreas Hinz

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From: "James Wall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Printing to an Epson 740
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 02:11:30 -0400

Hi all        
        
    I'm running LinuxPPC r.5 on a PowerMac G3. On a Mac you print to a
serial port not a parallel port, I believe I'm using ttyS0 (I checked and
I'm using the correct port) I think I'm using kernel 2.2.6 with Ghostscript
5.10. When I try to print for the first time after a reboot i just page
after page of crap, and nothing shows in the que, after that I just get no
response from lpr. Nothing in the que and lpc.status shows everything is set
to print but all the ques are empty.
     I set up the printer acordding to a set of files and instructions I
found in comp.os.linux.hardware, though I don't know if it is there any
more. I add some upp files to account for the 740. I'll send details if you
think it is necessary.

--
James Wall
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Ratz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: 2 x 3c905 @ same I/O ???
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 11:15:21 +0200

Sorry 4 the mess.

ratz

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From: Dirk Heinrichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Synchronizing cmos clock with timeserver?
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 07:43:54 +0200

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> >> /usr/bin/rdate -s wrzx03.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de
> 
> I'm using RedHat 5.1 on a server right now, and wonder how, if I run
> this 'rdate' command when the server dials into its ISP to grab mail,
> can I get the Windoze boxes on the network to set their time from the
> Linux server?
> 
> In the past, I've used a Windoze utility called D4 but it's overkill
> for what I need (I think).
> 
> Can I get Linux to broadcast the time on an SNTP port or something?
Install xntpd, and get a ntp-Client (Network Time Protokoll) for Windows
(if one exists).

Bye...

        Dirk

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